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Joseph

2006-04-03, 11:05 am

Hi all.
I'm using Cialis now since 2-3 weeks, 20 mg every 2-3 days. Works
better in the beginning, I experienced some NE and morning wood
(altough I consider those erections not full).
In the second week effects were less markable, no NE and MW , had some help
1 hour
after taking the pill, but the day after I didn't notice much.
Have to say:
- my morale is very very low. I think pills don't help too much with
venous leakage.
- so far I'm experimenting solo. Watch some porno and try to achieve
an erection but I'm not much aroused, seems that I have to get an
erection to see how the pills are working. Not an ideal condition I
presume. So I have often to manipulate myself to get one. Shaft
looks almost rigid, glans and spongious pretty soft. And I have
problems masturbating if I touch glans... This is the same like
without pills. Have to masturbate touching only shaft (I'm not
circumcized). I think it's because I don't achieve a full erection.
So if this is true... I cannot achieve a full erection with or
without pills.... And this sounds like venous leakage prevents that.
Obviously, it doesn't rock hard and it doesn't last much.
Cumming is very difficult but I think because i cannot touch the
glans. Maybe a lubrificant could help?
- on 18 april I will do the dynamic doppler again, this time with
best doctor here in Italy. Goldstein suggested me this.
This will be the final sentence to know if I have really venous
leakage.
- thinking about suicide. Yes sirs. Really thinking. I think I need
more than cialis. Maybe Wellbutrin could help? The point is... I have
forgotten this problem for 8 years (I was 24), now I'm gone through
point of non return. And I cannot accept to live with this disease.
If taking Cialis will solve my problem than ok, I accept this...but
knowing that I have problem with the drug too....
Is possible that mind suppress drugs effects? Is possible that mind
suppress NE and morning wood? Maybe I will find that I have hidden
depression... And sex depression... Could be this point to ED?
- Since I'm taking pills, I'm experimenting every day to achieve
erections, forcing them. Is this wrong?

Help...




Muerta

2006-04-04, 11:10 am


"Joseph" <lol@lol.com> wrote in message
news:Pj9Yf.15016$6e2.10869@news.edisontel.com...
> - thinking about suicide. Yes sirs. Really thinking.


Nothing, yes, believe me, *nothing*, is that bad.

Everybody here has had your problem. Every regular here has, in their own
way and time, found a solution. It could be venous leakage, it could be a
hormone problem, it could be psychological, but you have to go through the
steps until you find out what works for you.


> Is possible that mind suppress drugs effects?


Yes, it certainly is.


> - Since I'm taking pills, I'm experimenting every day to achieve
> erections, forcing them. Is this wrong?


Nope, not wrong at all. Just try not to be obsessive about it, because
that's not going to help, only hurt the situation.

What medications are you currently on?

How is your physical health?

What is the status of your relationship (girlfriend/wife)?

Have you had a hormone screen done?

We're here if you need us.

Ciao


Beach Runner

2006-04-07, 6:06 pm



Joseph wrote:
> Hi all.
> I'm using Cialis now since 2-3 weeks, 20 mg every 2-3 days. Works
> better in the beginning, I experienced some NE and morning wood
> (altough I consider those erections not full).
> In the second week effects were less markable, no NE and MW , had some help
> 1 hour
> after taking the pill, but the day after I didn't notice much.
> Have to say:
> - my morale is very very low. I think pills don't help too much with
> venous leakage.
> - so far I'm experimenting solo. Watch some porno and try to achieve
> an erection but I'm not much aroused, seems that I have to get an
> erection to see how the pills are working. Not an ideal condition I
> presume. So I have often to manipulate myself to get one. Shaft
> looks almost rigid, glans and spongious pretty soft. And I have
> problems masturbating if I touch glans... This is the same like
> without pills. Have to masturbate touching only shaft (I'm not
> circumcized). I think it's because I don't achieve a full erection.
> So if this is true... I cannot achieve a full erection with or
> without pills.... And this sounds like venous leakage prevents that.
> Obviously, it doesn't rock hard and it doesn't last much.
> Cumming is very difficult but I think because i cannot touch the
> glans. Maybe a lubrificant could help?
> - on 18 april I will do the dynamic doppler again, this time with
> best doctor here in Italy. Goldstein suggested me this.
> This will be the final sentence to know if I have really venous
> leakage.
> - thinking about suicide. Yes sirs. Really thinking. I think I need
> more than cialis. Maybe Wellbutrin could help? The point is... I have
> forgotten this problem for 8 years (I was 24), now I'm gone through
> point of non return. And I cannot accept to live with this disease.
> If taking Cialis will solve my problem than ok, I accept this...but
> knowing that I have problem with the drug too....
> Is possible that mind suppress drugs effects? Is possible that mind
> suppress NE and morning wood? Maybe I will find that I have hidden
> depression... And sex depression... Could be this point to ED?
> - Since I'm taking pills, I'm experimenting every day to achieve
> erections, forcing them. Is this wrong?
>
> Help...
>
>
>
>


Hello,

Your fears and obsessions will become self fulfilling. First, you
really need to think about something else. There are other things in
life. And, sex is very related to our overall health.

Assuming you've seem some good specialists, and that is the first step,
start improving your entire health.

Clean your system out. Stop taking any medications unless they are
absolutely essential, and then consider not taking them (something like
dilantin for an epileptic.) Start eating only healthy organic foods,
completely eliminating junk foods. No pesticides, hormones, and other
garbage. Find a good juice bar or get a juicer and flush your system
with veggie juices. Drink a lot of purified water.

Exercise every day. Build up slowly. Get sun and fresh air.

Give your body a chance to heal yourself.

Our lymphatic system has no pump, it requires exercise to work. It is
significantly more extensive than our circulatory system.

Do some other activities. Learn to play a musical instrument, paint, fly
an airplane, something new, challenging and different. Take a course at
a community college. Experience nature regularly.

Improve you entire health. Living on those drugs will simply wear off.
They will chew up your liver.

Throw out the idea of suicide. I bet a sex life will come back, but even
if it didn't, it's not all there is to life. That in no way diminishes
the importance, but it is not everything. You're letting it become all
of you, and with that view, it would be difficult for anyone.

I remember I once had anemia. They were talking bone marrow tests. No
idea why.

My ex wife suggested I go on a veggie juice purification diet... For
three months I drank a quart of veggie juice, and only raw foods. After
a few weeks, my sense of taste become incredible, I could throw some
mint leaves in hot water, and really taste the oils in the mint. I
started exercising again. They did my blood tests, and all more blood
chemistry was the best in my adult life. And of course my anemia was
completely resolved. The hematologist of course said my activities had
nothing to do with it. And, yes, my health was demonstrated in my sex
life. I'm not saying you have to take my path, but at least take a
healthy path you can live with.

I still had a structural problem from when I was a kid that is now
resolved.

Best of luck.

Hey, best of luck. Please let me know how you did.

Aquila Chase

2006-04-08, 1:04 am

I think Cialis is the least reliable of the ED pills. Viagra and Levitra
work better for me. However, I still take Cialis on ocassion, because it
does seem to linger for a day or so; although I never know when I might get
an erection.

The most reliable solution for me has been injections. I can't get Trimix
in Honolulu, but Edex and Caverject work well (Edex is cheaper than
Caverject). You use a very fine needle which is injected into the side of
your penis, where there are not many nerve endings, so it is surprisingly
low on the pain scale.

Before you consider suicide, give your dick a a chance with some other
drugs. Sticking a needle in your dick and being amazed at the erection is a
lot better than suicide.

aloha,
Aquila

"Joseph" <lol@lol.com> wrote in message
news:Pj9Yf.15016$6e2.10869@news.edisontel.com...
> Hi all.
> I'm using Cialis now since 2-3 weeks, 20 mg every 2-3 days. Works
> better in the beginning, I experienced some NE and morning wood
> (altough I consider those erections not full).
> In the second week effects were less markable, no NE and MW , had some
> help
> 1 hour
> after taking the pill, but the day after I didn't notice much.
> Have to say:
> - my morale is very very low. I think pills don't help too much with
> venous leakage.
> - so far I'm experimenting solo. Watch some porno and try to achieve
> an erection but I'm not much aroused, seems that I have to get an
> erection to see how the pills are working. Not an ideal condition I
> presume. So I have often to manipulate myself to get one. Shaft
> looks almost rigid, glans and spongious pretty soft. And I have
> problems masturbating if I touch glans... This is the same like
> without pills. Have to masturbate touching only shaft (I'm not
> circumcized). I think it's because I don't achieve a full erection.
> So if this is true... I cannot achieve a full erection with or
> without pills.... And this sounds like venous leakage prevents that.
> Obviously, it doesn't rock hard and it doesn't last much.
> Cumming is very difficult but I think because i cannot touch the
> glans. Maybe a lubrificant could help?
> - on 18 april I will do the dynamic doppler again, this time with
> best doctor here in Italy. Goldstein suggested me this.
> This will be the final sentence to know if I have really venous
> leakage.
> - thinking about suicide. Yes sirs. Really thinking. I think I need
> more than cialis. Maybe Wellbutrin could help? The point is... I have
> forgotten this problem for 8 years (I was 24), now I'm gone through
> point of non return. And I cannot accept to live with this disease.
> If taking Cialis will solve my problem than ok, I accept this...but
> knowing that I have problem with the drug too....
> Is possible that mind suppress drugs effects? Is possible that mind
> suppress NE and morning wood? Maybe I will find that I have hidden
> depression... And sex depression... Could be this point to ED?
> - Since I'm taking pills, I'm experimenting every day to achieve
> erections, forcing them. Is this wrong?
>
> Help...
>
>
>
>



Dex

2006-04-08, 11:04 am

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:16:37 -0400, Joseph wrote
(in article <Pj9Yf.15016$6e2.10869@news.edisontel.com> ):

> Hi all.
> I'm using Cialis now since 2-3 weeks, 20 mg every 2-3 days. Works
> better in the beginning, I experienced some NE and morning wood
> (altough I consider those erections not full).
> In the second week effects were less markable, no NE and MW , had some help
> 1 hour
> after taking the pill, but the day after I didn't notice much.
> Have to say:
> - my morale is very very low. I think pills don't help too much with
> venous leakage.
> - so far I'm experimenting solo. Watch some porno and try to achieve
> an erection but I'm not much aroused, seems that I have to get an
> erection to see how the pills are working. Not an ideal condition I
> presume. So I have often to manipulate myself to get one. Shaft
> looks almost rigid, glans and spongious pretty soft. And I have
> problems masturbating if I touch glans... This is the same like
> without pills.


I'd like to offer some comments and suggestions based on a recent experience.
You need to understand that none of the ED drugs, including Cialis, work
without sexual stimulation and arousal. I use Cialis regularly, and it has
always worked for me. This weekend, my wife went out of town, and I thought
I'd try an experiment. I haven't masturbated solo for years, so thought I
would spend a happy afternoon flogging the bishop. I popped my usual dosage
of Cialis, put a porn DVD in the player, and got set for adventure. Well...
nothing much happened. What with fast forwarding through the DVD to get to my
favorite parts, and in your case, worrying about your erection and dealing
with the mechanics of masturbating in the most comfortable way, it's hard to
stay hard. Frankly, the current crop of porn DVDs ain't much anyway... bad
lighting and pimply asses. But don't get me started...

Anyway, my point is that to give Cialis a real trial, you should use it with
a partner. I think you might find it a completely different experience.

Next thing... the body gets used to all drugs, so the effect is often more
pronounced when you start taking a particular drug. Try cycling off the
Cialis for a week and coming back to it. Try varying your dosage. You may
find that the initial effects return after a period of time without spent off
it.

Now... your depression. If you are having suicidal thoughts, you need to see
a specialist immediately. Welbutrin may be of help, and it is reported to be
prosexual. Antidepressants in general can help with obsessive thoughts...
where your mind gets stuck in a loop. But no one in here can help you combat
your depression. You need to see a specialist for that, and you need to be
open with him or her about your sexual issues.

Last... you say you have venous leakage. Has this been diagnosed? Or are you
making an assumption based on your active imagination? It sounds to me as if
you might be hypogonadal (low testosterone). One of the signs of that is
depression. Others are low energy, low sex drive, Have you had a thorough
check of your hormonal blood levels?

The thing is, you have to stay positive. This is a problem that you will
solve. You are taking the right steps in seeking the very best medical care
available, and examining every possible solution. Don't let negativity and
self-pity get in your way.

Wanderer

Have to masturbate touching only shaft (I'm not
> circumcized). I think it's because I don't achieve a full erection.
> So if this is true... I cannot achieve a full erection with or
> without pills.... And this sounds like venous leakage prevents that.
> Obviously, it doesn't rock hard and it doesn't last much.
> Cumming is very difficult but I think because i cannot touch the
> glans. Maybe a lubrificant could help?
> - on 18 april I will do the dynamic doppler again, this time with
> best doctor here in Italy. Goldstein suggested me this.
> This will be the final sentence to know if I have really venous
> leakage.
> - thinking about suicide. Yes sirs. Really thinking. I think I need
> more than cialis. Maybe Wellbutrin could help? The point is... I have
> forgotten this problem for 8 years (I was 24), now I'm gone through
> point of non return. And I cannot accept to live with this disease.
> If taking Cialis will solve my problem than ok, I accept this...but
> knowing that I have problem with the drug too....
> Is possible that mind suppress drugs effects? Is possible that mind
> suppress NE and morning wood? Maybe I will find that I have hidden
> depression... And sex depression... Could be this point to ED?
> - Since I'm taking pills, I'm experimenting every day to achieve
> erections, forcing them. Is this wrong?
>
> Help...
>
>
>
>



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