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| richfox1@comcast.net 2006-02-23, 11:28 am |
| i am not getting any luck with tri mix. has anyone tried tri mix and
cialis together and what dose of tri mix? TIA
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| Ignatz's Bricks 2006-02-23, 11:28 am |
| richfox1@comcast.net wrote:
> i am not getting any luck with tri mix. has anyone tried tri mix and
> cialis together and what dose of tri mix? TIA
OK, let me ask an equivalent question:
How much paint does it take to paint a rainbow?
Too many variables and too little information.
Back to your question:
A few people don't respond to trimix.
Did your doctor initially test you to determine the correct dosage?
If so, what does he/she say?
Trimix can be mixed in different strengths, you know.
Where are you buying your trimix?
I formerly bought mine from a mail order store in Mobile, Alabama which
went by the name of GulfSouthPharmacy. I think they have since changed
their name. My last shipment from them was 86 F when I received it. I
got mad and switched my prescription to a local chain pharmacy, The
Medicine Shoppe, which seems to be nation wide, although all stores
don't to sterile compounding.
http://www.medicineshoppe.com/
At the one I use, I can look the compounding pharmacist in the eye. The
supposedly same strength trimix from my local druggist works better than
the GulfSouth brand at half to one third the dose required by the
former. The locally mixed tri costs me about 50% more, but the improved
quality is worth it!
Now, about cialis and trimix. I have found that cialis does not boost
the working of trimix very much. However, viagra does, and if I have
accidentally given myself too small a dose, a quickly chewed and allowed
to dissolve under my tongue viagra will salvage the injection in about
15 minutes.
Ignatz's Bricks
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| Ignatz's Bricks wrote:
> richfox1@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> OK, let me ask an equivalent question:
> How much paint does it take to paint a rainbow?
>
> Too many variables and too little information.
>
>
> Back to your question:
>
> A few people don't respond to trimix.
>
> Did your doctor initially test you to determine the correct dosage?
>
> If so, what does he/she say?
>
> Trimix can be mixed in different strengths, you know.
>
>
> Where are you buying your trimix?
>
> I formerly bought mine from a mail order store in Mobile, Alabama which
> went by the name of GulfSouthPharmacy. I think they have since changed
> their name. My last shipment from them was 86 F when I received it. I
> got mad and switched my prescription to a local chain pharmacy, The
> Medicine Shoppe, which seems to be nation wide, although all stores
> don't to sterile compounding.
>
> http://www.medicineshoppe.com/
>
> At the one I use, I can look the compounding pharmacist in the eye. The
> supposedly same strength trimix from my local druggist works better than
> the GulfSouth brand at half to one third the dose required by the
> former. The locally mixed tri costs me about 50% more, but the improved
> quality is worth it!
>
>
> Now, about cialis and trimix. I have found that cialis does not boost
> the working of trimix very much. However, viagra does, and if I have
> accidentally given myself too small a dose, a quickly chewed and allowed
> to dissolve under my tongue viagra will salvage the injection in about
> 15 minutes.
>
> Ignatz's Bricks
>
This is a lingering topic in the back of my mind so I've popped in here.
Interesting and thanks for that info on boosting TriMix. I'm interested
in the "flip side" of the question -- boosting Levitra with Trimix -- or
phrased differently, using Trimix to erect when the plasma level of
Levitra is waning.
First, the situation:
For the last 6 weeks I've taken 10mg of Levitra at a set time, three
days a week. (At 30 mg per week, the cost works out OK and I'm gun shy
of developing the apparent tolerance to Levitra that I did to regular
Viagra dosing -- Cialis is, medically, not an option). This Levitra
gives me annoying-pesky NEs most nights and I can be stimulated to a
penetrable erection if I'm within 8 to 10 hours of the last Levitra
dose--I've chosen the days of the week and time of day to sort of match
our work & recreation patterns. This is fitting our style better than
the "by-appointment-only" style we had adopted when I used Viagra on a
"when needed" basis.
When I'm outside that 10 hour window, I'm using a "booster" of 25 mg of
Viagra -- 50mg if I'm more than 24 hours away from a Levitra dose. My
reason for Viagra is that, when it works, it will work 2 or 3 times
faster than does a Levitra booster. (I've also get several dozen pills
left over from my 'V' days -- so, it's "free.")
My E.D.'s not getting any easier to manage though and I think that on
the next Uro visit, I'll again propose a shift to TriMix. Did this last
year but Uro persuaded me to try a year on Levitra first. (I think he
really wants me "ripe" to fight off the mild needle-phobe that lurks
inside--the office nurse has to "prompt" me to puncture skin--and not
squint or flinch.)
Over the last three years, I've erected by injection on five occasions
(when pretty depleted of PDE5 inhibitor) so the Uro has a good history
of workable formulation and dosage of BiMix and/or TriMix (don't know
which was used). My performance has been fast--up in less than the 5
minutes of pressure with the wipe.
What I'd like to do is to stay on the Levitra, 3 or 4 times each week to
experience good NEs (they are confidence builders & anxiety fighters).
I also like the "readiness" that the regular Levitra use provides (like
the readiness that Cialis users get.) When I fail on stimulation, I'd
like to have TriMix as a backup option. I feel that TriMix would ensure
success and might be a bit quicker, even considering draw-up and warming
time, than the Viagra booster (mate's mood sometimes wanes with a 45-60
minute wait for the 'V' to kick in.)
So here are the questions:
--Does it sound like a workable plan? How does it work when TriMix is
stacked on a PDE5-I?
--Is this outright stupid from an erectile health or priapsm hazard
viewpoint? (Or does that vary so widely with each patient that it's too
hard to tell -- pun not intended.)
--How much experience is there with stacking Trimix on routine PDE5-I
dosing?
--Will the TriMix dosage vary, depending on how long it's been since the
last 'V' or 'L' dose? Is it predictable? Or, are these independent
meds that have little to do with each other (yes, I noted your
'stacking' Viagra on top of TriMix up above.)
--Any better ideas of "working both sides of this street?"
Thanks in advance...
LMac
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| Ignatz's Bricks 2006-02-23, 11:28 am |
| LMac asks:
> Interesting and thanks for that info on boosting TriMix. I'm interested
> in the "flip side" of the question -- boosting Levitra with Trimix -- or
> phrased differently, using Trimix to erect when the plasma level of
> Levitra is waning.
(big snip)
> So here are the questions:
> --Does it sound like a workable plan? How does it work when TriMix is
> stacked on a PDE5-I?
> --Is this outright stupid from an erectile health or priapsm hazard
> viewpoint? (Or does that vary so widely with each patient that it's too
> hard to tell -- pun not intended.)
All the makers of ED medicines advise against stacking. I would say the
fact that it varies wildly with the patient and fear of lawsuits are the
prime reason for this warning. I don't feel that priapism is a risk for
me, but it probably could be other people.
> --How much experience is there with stacking Trimix on routine PDE5-I
> dosing?
The stackers, for me, listed from best to worst:
Viagra / trimix
Viagra / cialis
L-Arginine / trimix
Cialis / trimix
I've never tried stacking Levitra. For me, taken alone, 05 mg of
Cialis works about the same as 30 mg of Levitra. Since Levitra works so
poorly for me, it just did not seem to be a good idea.
I used stacking viagra with cialis (Caverta brand V with Josh's C) for
one year to give me a year off from trimix injections.
> --Will the TriMix dosage vary, depending on how long it's been since the
> last 'V' or 'L' dose? Is it predictable? Or, are these independent
> meds that have little to do with each other (yes, I noted your
> 'stacking' Viagra on top of TriMix up above.)
> --Any better ideas of "working both sides of this street?"
If you try it, find test trimix WITHOUT any stacker until you find out
how it works alone. My problem seems to be circulatory, as a cold
shower on my lower back kills any erection immediately and warm shower
in the same place can bring on an erection many times, even with out any
medication.
Re: PDE5-I
For reasons not yet known to me, my recovery time has recently dropped,
and I mean from 16-to-24 hours to twenty minutes. The pecker firmness
did not increase, just the recovery time. This change happened rather
rapidly about a month and half ago and I'm considering experimenting to
find out which diet/medicine change I made caused it, although it is
very tempting to just enjoy it for a while first! Other medical changes
noted at same time, cholesterol went up and triglycerides went down.
Changes: Dr. OKed discontinuing 90 mg phenobarbital daily, I quit
taking WelChol due to disgestive side effects, added 10 mg policosanol
(sugar based, not rice based), switched from milk to tea (no sugar) at
lunch and switched from cranberry juice to pomegranate juice. My guess
is the pheno, but I had a very slow recovery time long before I needed
to take that. If I'd expected any one of these changes to bring any
benefit, I'd have done them one at a time.
Ignatz's Bricks
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| Although Cialis works well for me on an every 48 hr schedule, I do
sometimes stack it with Trimix which has the very nifty effect for me
of eliminating my refractory period. The erection persists after
ejaculation while the Trimix meds are still working; I can continue on
and have another orgasm or at least continue sex until my partner
catches up if our timing is not the same.
If you are going to stack T-mix with anything, you need to do a lot of
experimenting with the T-mix first, learning what specific dosages for
you give you what erection durations.
If I still have Cialis working for me, which is usual now, I reduce my
normal dose of T-mix by a percentage based on when I last took Cialis.
I'm very aware of the possibility of priapism and never go beyond a
combo that will give me more than say three hours of erection.
The every 48 hour scheduling of Cialis, btw, has worked well for me
now after several weeks. I did have some problems with pretty severe
delayed ejaculation during the second week but that seems to have
resolved itself. There is still a degree of that but I'm in a
comfortable ball park again as to timing. I tried the 48 hour routine
at the suggestion of my uro because C does not kick in well for me
until the day after I've taken it. Taking the C every two days
solved that problem.
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| Jim wrote:
> Although Cialis works well for me on an every 48 hr schedule, I do
> sometimes stack it with Trimix which has the very nifty effect for me
> of eliminating my refractory period. The erection persists after
> ejaculation while the Trimix meds are still working; I can continue on
> and have another orgasm or at least continue sex until my partner
> catches up if our timing is not the same.
>
> If you are going to stack T-mix with anything, you need to do a lot of
> experimenting with the T-mix first, learning what specific dosages for
> you give you what erection durations.
>
> If I still have Cialis working for me, which is usual now, I reduce my
> normal dose of T-mix by a percentage based on when I last took Cialis.
> I'm very aware of the possibility of priapism and never go beyond a
> combo that will give me more than say three hours of erection.
>
> The every 48 hour scheduling of Cialis, btw, has worked well for me
> now after several weeks. I did have some problems with pretty severe
> delayed ejaculation during the second week but that seems to have
> resolved itself. There is still a degree of that but I'm in a
> comfortable ball park again as to timing. I tried the 48 hour routine
> at the suggestion of my uro because C does not kick in well for me
> until the day after I've taken it. Taking the C every two days
> solved that problem.
>
For Jim and IB thanks -- good guidance.
LMac
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| > At the one I use, I can look the compounding pharmacist in the eye. The
> supposedly same strength trimix from my local druggist works better than
> the GulfSouth brand at half to one third the dose required by the former.
> The locally mixed tri costs me about 50% more, but the improved quality is
> worth it!
> Ignatz's Bricks
Ignatz's Bricks, I posted on this group several months ago regarding the
reduced effect that I was experiencing with the use of trimix. I had just
switched to this company. I have been suspecting that the strength of their
medicine might be my problem and was planning to change companies in order
to compare. I solved my dosing problems by doubling the amount that I use.
They give you twice the amount for the same price as the company that I used
before them, for the same price. But now I see, the potency is somewhat
reduced. This larger *volume* that I am using now, although the same
overall strength as before, does have a very nice effect for me and I will
probably continue to use them. I feel now that this may be a change in the
medicine that actually works better for me. As we know, everyone is
different It may be an improvement in distribution. Regarding the
temperature, I ask for 2 frozen cartridges instead of 1 and it gets here
cold. Thanks for the enlightening post.
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| Ignatz's Bricks 2006-02-23, 11:28 am |
| I wrote:
til replied:[vbcol=seagreen]
> I posted on this group several months ago regarding the
> reduced effect that I was experiencing with the use of trimix. I had just
> switched to this company. I have been suspecting that the strength of their
> medicine might be my problem and was planning to change companies in order
> to compare. I solved my dosing problems by doubling the amount that I use.
I just pulled up your older post and reread it. Yes, it is the same
company, but the new name did not ring a bell when you first mentioned
it. If you put the old address, gulfsouthrx.com , in your browser, you
get a redirect to the new name, and the site lists three people, whom I
have talked to on the phone. If they were cutting their medicine too
thin, the state of Alabama would have closed them if it could be proven.
The ingredients in trimix are very perishable. I suspect that it is
simply a freshness problem. I see that you use 10-30-1 (Pros/Pap/Phen)
while I use 20-30-2. I have no way of checking what goes on in their
pharmacy, but four of five shipments were screwed up and only one was
the fault of FedEx and I picked that one up 4 hours later at the
airport. There is absolutely no excuse for the cold pack being warmer
than the outside temperature.
til continues:
> . . . . . Regarding the
> temperature, I ask for 2 frozen cartridges instead of 1 and it gets here
> cold. Thanks for the enlightening post.
The company that I now use, specifically warns against freezing. I
meant to ask why, but I forgot.
Ignatz
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| Ignatz, what was the effect of being off trimix for the year? Was there any
change in the effectiveness of the Trimix? Thanks
"Ignatz's Bricks" <IgnatzBricks@aol.com.no.net> wrote in message
news:43f8891f$0$13166$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
> I used stacking viagra with cialis (Caverta brand V with Josh's C) for one
> year to give me a year off from trimix injections.
> Ignatz's Bricks
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| Ignatz's Bricks 2006-03-22, 12:32 pm |
| til asks:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Ignatz, what was the effect of being off trimix for the year? Was there any
> change in the effectiveness of the Trimix? Thanks
>
> "Ignatz's Bricks" <IgnatzBricks@aol.com.no.net> wrote:
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Til,
It is hard to say. I don't know if its the Trimix or me that has
changed. I switched from GulfSouth trimix to Medicine Shoppe trimix and
it simply works better! I'm only taking half the former dose. In the two
months since I've resumed, there has been no fall off in effectiveness.
Ignatz
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| On Tuesday I called the pharmacist at Gulfsouth-Applied and told him that
they were getting complaints about the strength of their trimix. I also
told him that I had experienced this myself. I placed an order for 5ml and
it arrived Wednesday morning. I tried it last night and it was improved. I
will see how the rest of it goes; I may change for a comparison.
"Ignatz's Bricks" <IgnatzBricks@aol.com.no.net> wrote in message
news:440f90d4$0$13147$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
> It is hard to say. I don't know if its the Trimix or me that has
> changed. I switched from GulfSouth trimix to Medicine Shoppe trimix and
> it simply works better! I'm only taking half the former dose. In the two
> months since I've resumed, there has been no fall off in effectiveness.
>
> Ignatz
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| I got back into the Applied trimix this weekend and I may not have to
change; it worked out real good. I am freezing it this time. The paperwork
says, 6 month life if kept frozen, 2 month life if kept refrigerated.
"til" <til@lafn.org> wrote in message news:duq58c$1tmn$1@zook.lafn.org...
> On Tuesday I called the pharmacist at Gulfsouth-Applied and told him that
> they were getting complaints about the strength of their trimix. I also
> told him that I had experienced this myself. I placed an order for 5ml
> and it arrived Wednesday morning. I tried it last night and it was
> improved. I will see how the rest of it goes; I may change for a
> comparison.
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> "Ignatz's Bricks" <IgnatzBricks@aol.com.no.net> wrote in message
> news:440f90d4$0$13147$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
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