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They're gone! - Morning erection Help
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| djuwlsir284@yahoo.com 2006-01-04, 10:53 am |
| I am in my early 30s and I workout 3 times a week.
I know that morning erections are "common", that means that it happens
a lot, but it is not a sure thing.
But In the past I have always had morning erections, everyday when I
wake up.
However I noticed that I have not had morning erections anymore, I
don't remember the last time I had one.
What could the problem be, and what are my options?
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| The average, healthy guy without ED has 4 - 5 nocturnal erections each
lasting about a half hour.
These occur during the REM (Rapid Eye Movement) stage of sleep. This
happens most commonly later in the night, say 4 - 7 AM.
Work or personal stress can change sleep patterns such that you have
shorter periods of REM, or that you wake differently from it. If for
example you began waking more slowly from the REM stage, any erections
you might have had during it might have deflated by the time you wake.
If your conscious, sexual erection pattern hasn't changed, don't worry
about this.
One way to sort of kick-start them again is to supplement with
L-arginine. Takes a week or two sometimes to get the L-a going.
Jim
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| djuwlsir284@yahoo.com 2006-01-04, 5:52 pm |
| > Work or personal stress can change sleep patterns such that you have
> shorter periods of REM, or that you wake differently from it. If for
> example you began waking more slowly from the REM stage, any erections
> you might have had during it might have deflated by the time you wake.
My eating patterns, exercise patterns and sleep patterns have not
changed much.
I had some stressful work times a few months ago, but the last 2 months
have been easy.
But still no morning erections.
> If your conscious, sexual erection pattern hasn't changed, don't worry
> about this.
Not much going on sexually though.
When I do take of things myself, the erections do not seem as firm.
But I am not trying to enjoy/prolong things, I just want to 'pop'.
So I might be finishing up before I am fully ready.
But I do not believe this would affect my morning erections, or lack
of.
> One way to sort of kick-start them again is to supplement with
> L-arginine. Takes a week or two sometimes to get the L-a going.
what does L-Arginine do?
What other uses do people take it for? Just morning erections?
I heard that some people take viagra at night when they sleep to help
their nightly erections.
Should I try to convince my doctor to allow this?
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| L-a increases availability of nitric oxide, essential for building
erections. Also good for general vascular health, from what I've read.
Seems to firm up erections some and does get a lot of nocturnal ones
happening for me.
There's a lot of sense in taking the erectile drugs regularly, lower
doses, for men who have ED. If you explain to your doctor that your
erections just aren't firm any more, he'll get the point.
Keep in mind that you could be having nocturnals and are just sleeping
through them. But at your age, they should probably be fairly regular
events when you wake in the morning.
Jim
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| Mr. Softy 2006-01-04, 5:52 pm |
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"Jim" <avocet@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1136407823.487300.235000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> L-a increases availability of nitric oxide, essential for building
> erections. Also good for general vascular health, from what I've read.
> Seems to firm up erections some and does get a lot of nocturnal ones
> happening for me.
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> There's a lot of sense in taking the erectile drugs regularly, lower
> doses, for men who have ED. If you explain to your doctor that your
> erections just aren't firm any more, he'll get the point.
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> Keep in mind that you could be having nocturnals and are just sleeping
> through them. But at your age, they should probably be fairly regular
> events when you wake in the morning.
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He could always do the postage stamp test to check for NEs. That said,
maybe something else has changed that would show-up in a physical exam and
blood work.
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| djuwlsir284@yahoo.com 2006-01-05, 12:55 am |
| Mr. Softy wrote:
> "Jim" <avocet@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:1136407823.487300.235000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
So it could also help blood pressure then?
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There is?
What about benefits to it though?
Just taking viagra would give the person an erection, but would it
"help" other than temporarily giving an erection? (like taking cold
medicine just masks the symptoms but doesnt really cure anything)
[vbcol=seagreen]
But at 31, I do not think he would give it to me.
[vbcol=seagreen]
Thats what I mean, I used to have them every morning without fail.
But lately it hasnt happened at all.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> maybe something else has changed that would show-up in a physical exam and
> blood work.
What else could cause this?
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| bhasf@aol.com 2006-01-05, 12:55 am |
| I would suggest you have your Testosterone level checked. If you are
sure you are not having nocturnal erections that is a very typical sign
of low T. Especially if you also have noticed reduced libido and
softer erections or ED when concious.
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| djuwlsir284@yahoo.com 2006-01-05, 12:55 am |
| bhasf@aol.com wrote:
> I would suggest you have your Testosterone level checked. If you are
For some reason I thought I had low levels of T so I had it checked
during my yearly physical last year. (December 2004)
I was in the middle of the acceptable range, so the doctor said it is
normal.
> sure you are not having nocturnal erections that is a very typical sign
> of low T.
I am not sure if I am missing nocturnal erections, but I am sure that I
do not have morning erections anymore.
My concern if I bring it up with my doctor he will say:
"Morning erections happen sometimes, but not everyday, etc...."
But like I said, I used to have it everyday...until lately.
> Especially if you also have noticed reduced libido and
> softer erections or ED when concious.
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| djuwlsir284@yahoo.com wrote:
> bhasf@aol.com wrote:
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> For some reason I thought I had low levels of T so I had it checked
> during my yearly physical last year. (December 2004)
> I was in the middle of the acceptable range, so the doctor said it is
> normal.
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> I am not sure if I am missing nocturnal erections, but I am sure that I
> do not have morning erections anymore.
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> My concern if I bring it up with my doctor he will say:
> "Morning erections happen sometimes, but not everyday, etc...."
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> But like I said, I used to have it everyday...until lately.
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I think it's time to get a physical answer to your concern before this
starts chomping away at your sense of well being -- sounds like the
first nibble might have taken place already. {{:-|
See your doc and ask for a commercial NPT test kit (preferable since the
perforations are well calibrated to tear.) Alternative, DIY per one of
the websites on the subject. This was the first test my GP performed
before she referred me to a Urologist. IIRC the instructions said to do
the test on a night after I'd had at least two days of >6 hours of sleep
and had exercised normally.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/...icle/003339.htm
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...rticlekey=51148
HTH ...LMac
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| djuwlsir284@yahoo.com 2006-01-05, 5:53 pm |
| > I think it's time to get a physical answer to your concern before this
> starts chomping away at your sense of well being -- sounds like the
> first nibble might have taken place already. {{:-|
Yes
> the websites on the subject. This was the first test my GP performed
> before she referred me to a Urologist.
Why did you go to a Urologist?
What was found? (not to pry)
> IIRC the instructions said to do
> the test on a night after I'd had at least two days of >6 hours of sleep
> and had exercised normally.
Why after 2 nights of 6+ hours of sleep and exercise?
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| Ignatz's Bricks 2006-01-06, 12:54 am |
| LMac stated:
djuwlsir284@yahoo.com asks:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Why after 2 nights of 6+ hours of sleep and exercise?
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Both heavy exercise and lack of sleep are erection killers and I'd rate
lack of sleep as the most potent one.
Ignatz.
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| Mr. Softy 2006-01-08, 11:05 am |
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"Ignatz's Bricks" <IgnatzBricks@aol.com.no.net> wrote in message
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> LMac stated:
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> djuwlsir284@yahoo.com asks:
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> Both heavy exercise and lack of sleep are erection killers and I'd rate
> lack of sleep as the most potent one.
Since I get heavy sleep and lack of exercise, you would think I would be
perpetually erect!
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| djuwlsir284@yahoo.com wrote:
This was the first test my GP performed
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> Why did you go to a Urologist?
> What was found? (not to pry)
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So, here's the whole 'shaggy' story.
I'd been self medicating a left-lateral lobe enlargement with Saw
Palmetto for over 5 years and my PCP was aware of that problem but went
along with the S.P. 'solution.' She had once asked whether I wanted to
see a Uro for that prostate problem. I wanted to stay away from the Uro
Clinic because friends had described the diagnostic procedures and
adverse side effects from the then popular prostate meds and I was
getting along OK with S.P. (Theory: 'It's more macho to tough these
things out on one's own.')
At the spry age of 67, I had the onset of E.D., starting with
intermittent pre-mature ejaculation for several months. Then I
experienced a couple of penetration failures. This resulted in all the
'failed masculinity' and self guilt that accompanies any E.D. incident.
I tried hiding from sex and I vascillated between denial and the
'it's normal - age related' excuse. This went on for a couple of months
then I decided that there might be help.
Steps were to verbalize the problem with my wife and discuss a medical
solution. We tried cockrings and other restriction devices. Palmiero
was pushing Viagra on T.V. and I started lurking this newsgroup. Since
my PCP was a female M.D. it took a fair piece of mental conditioning to
share my problem.
My wife and I talked it out to a point where I felt confident that I
could discuss E.D. with my PCP. Finally, made the appointment. Had to
reveal to the appointment clerk that I wanted to (gulp) address an
E.D. issue. (Clerk didn't scream, 'you filthy old man' and I realized
that this might be an acceptable medical situation.) Next, dumped the
whole history on my PCP and asked for help. At the time, my HMO limited
prescription of any E.D. med to the Uros. As an aside, I think my PCP
would rather not be exposed to whining old males who are not satisfied
with their erections. Her first question was about the quality of my
NEs. I said that they were seldom and soft. She gave me an NPT kit
(perf paper strips sufficient for four tries. I think they were
calibrated to break at various tensions.) Came back with the scorecard
two weeks later. On that basis, she wrote the referral to the Uro.
And that's how I got to the Urologist.
What was found:
1. No remaining prostate enlargement just a bladder neck situation that
responds nicely to a very small daily dose of Hytrin--great stuff!
2. Penetrable erectile quality as a result of a Trimix injection --
Wow, didn't know I could still produce a stiff boomer like that -- let
me outta here so I can go try this on for size !
3. Orders to try a six-pill sample of Viagra with sexual stimulation
and report back in two weeks.
4. Two weeks later, Viagra had worked and I went on 'V' for almost
three years. Got sloppy with my use/abuse of 'V' and had to use
something else but that's another story.
One thing I forgot to mention in the earlier post was an instruction
that I was to sleep in boxer shorts for two nights before stating the
NPT test and to stay in boxers until I finished the test. More recently
my Uro has put me in boxer shorts on a daily basis. This doesn't say
that brief's cause E.D. The Uro just wants me hanging looser and doing
some other rebuilding drills. {:-)
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> Why after 2 nights of 6+ hours of sleep and exercise?
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See I.B.'s response -- it answers this quite well.
Have to grin at Mr. Softy's comment -- he knows better and has said so
here. The couch potato approach isn't very good. Regular mild aerobics
do pay later dividends in the bedroom.
HTH .... LMac
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