Impotence Support - Barely 30 and yet....

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Barely 30 and yet....

David

2005-08-22, 10:49 pm

Hi,

I'm 31 and am having serious issues with my sexual performance. In the past
I have had girlfriends and some penetrative sex with them too, although
I've never been the kind of guy who can last for very long (as in, I lose
my erection, not as in I shoot my load too quickly...)

Recently, I met a new girl who I really liked. So it was just my luck she
turned out to be something of a sex addict who needs penetration, and a lot
of it. You can imagine that maybe we were not perfectly matched in that
respect

in fact, sex was a disaster, I only ever managed to stay hard
for a minute or so inside her and the last couple of times never even got
hard enough to enter her. She has now effectively called off our budding
relationship. Now, reading this you might question the character of someone
who dumps me for these reasons, and you might be right, but it does cause
me to face up to what is obviously an impotence problem.

I have been using Viagra, Cialis etc. bought off the internet for some
years now, sometimes it has worked, other times it had no effect (like with
this lady). Reading this group, does taking it after a meal (a few hours
after) or with alcohol greatly affect the effect of these drugs? Took
Uprima once (on a "dry run") and it made me feel nauseous. Have some
Levitra too but never tried it, as I heard it has less of an effect than
Viagra.

But at the end of the day I feel I am too young to be impotent. I went to
my doctor a couple of weeks ago, he had a look at my bits and said I was
alright, said it was most likely psychological blah blah and gave me a
subscription for Viagra. He probably thinks this is an open and shut case.
I don't - should I go see a specialist? Could I have low testosterone
levels? How do I get a more thorough diagnosis of my problem? My guess is
it's part physical, part psychological, but whatever it is it's really
wreaking havoc on my self-confidence, and I find myself actually *avoiding*
sex even when it's offered to me due to my fear of not being able to get
aroused. And that's definitely not normal for a young man, is it. ;)

Sorry for this long rambling post, it's late and I guess it just feels good
letting it all out. Would appreciate some suggestions on what to do next,
or maybe even information from guys who've been in similar positions.

Thanks a lot in advance,

David.

Muerta

2005-08-22, 10:49 pm

in fact, sex was a disaster, I only ever managed to stay hard
> for a minute or so inside her and the last couple of times never even got
> hard enough to enter her. She has now effectively called off our budding
> relationship. Now, reading this you might question the character of
> someone
> who dumps me for these reasons, and you might be right, but it does cause
> me to face up to what is obviously an impotence problem.
>
> I have been using Viagra, Cialis etc. bought off the internet for some
> years now, sometimes it has worked, other times it had no effect (like
> with
> this lady). Reading this group, does taking it after a meal (a few hours
> after) or with alcohol greatly affect the effect of these drugs? Took
> Uprima once (on a "dry run") and it made me feel nauseous. Have some
> Levitra too but never tried it, as I heard it has less of an effect than
> Viagra.
>
> But at the end of the day I feel I am too young to be impotent. I went to
> my doctor a couple of weeks ago, he had a look at my bits and said I was
> alright, said it was most likely psychological blah blah and gave me a
> subscription for Viagra. He probably thinks this is an open and shut case.
> I don't - should I go see a specialist? Could I have low testosterone
> levels? How do I get a more thorough diagnosis of my problem? My guess is
> it's part physical, part psychological, but whatever it is it's really
> wreaking havoc on my self-confidence, and I find myself actually
> *avoiding*
> sex even when it's offered to me due to my fear of not being able to get
> aroused. And that's definitely not normal for a young man, is it. ;)
>
> Sorry for this long rambling post, it's late and I guess it just feels
> good
> letting it all out. Would appreciate some suggestions on what to do next,
> or maybe even information from guys who've been in similar positions.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance,
>
> David.

If you've read many of the back-posts here, you'll find one first
reccomendation from the majority:

Get the lab tests.

There are so many hormonal things that can cause you problems that you've
either got to eliminate that first, or find out which one you have to deal
with.

Get a thyroid workup, prolactin level, testosterone free & testosterone
serum, SHBG, Estradiol.......somebody else in the group...."hep a brudder
out, here".

I know there's more, I'm only halfway through my morning coffee.

Jerry Sturdivant

2005-08-23, 11:46 am

"David" <david@fake.email> wrote

> But at the end of the day I feel I am too young to be impotent.
> I went to my doctor a couple of weeks ago, he had a look
> at my bits and said I was alright, said it was most likely
> psychological blah blah and gave me a subscription for Viagra.
> He probably thinks this is an open and shut case. I don't
> - should I go see a specialist? Could I have low testosterone
> levels? How do I get a more thorough diagnosis of my problem?

It's time to get serious. First a few basic questions: Are you taking any
other medicines? Do you drink a lot of coffee? (Coke, chocolate, i.e.
Caffeine) Are you carrying any baggage? (Abused as a child). Are you into
heavy exercise? Stress on the job?

There are a number of things that cause blood vessel constriction. Obviously
something that works against EXPANDING blood vessels in your dick. So these
are some of the basics.

> I have been using Viagra, Cialis etc. bought off the internet
> for some years now, sometimes it has worked, other times
> it had no effect (like with this lady).

This could be about how to take it.

> Reading this group, does taking it after a meal (a few hours
> after) or with alcohol greatly affect the effect of these
> drugs?

Viagra should be taken on an empty stomach (no eating for 3-4 hours). If you
crush it (or dissolve it in a one-inch glass of water) and wash it down with
a glass of water, you should have a response (flushing face) in about
10-minutes. I don't see reaction to Cialis for a number of house (because I
take it before going to (non-sex) bed). And it discussed as not being as
'intense' as Viagra.

> My guess is it's part physical, part psychological, but whatever
> it is it's really wreaking havoc on my self-confidence, and
> I find myself actually *avoiding* sex even when it's offered
> to me due to my fear of not being able to get aroused. And
> that's definitely not normal for a young man, is it. ;)

That's the bummer. Anxiety can cause a loss of erection and knowing you
might lose your erection causes anxiety. (And women thing THEY have
problems?).

> Sorry for this long rambling post, it's late and I guess
> it just feels good letting it all out. Would appreciate some
> suggestions on what to do next, or maybe even information
> from guys who've been in similar positions.

Look over the above suggestions and see if there's anything there. Then see
a urologist. He'll know if you need some blood tests and is more tuned to
the area of your interest, as compared to a GP. But don't give up hope.
There is always the guaranteed erection (as I call it). Many of us have gone
to tri-mix (injections). No worrying about when to eat. No worrying if you've
drank too much coffee. No side effects. We experienced user actually decide
on how long we what our erections to last. It's like dial-an-erection.

So look at your medicines, caffeine, stress and see that urologists. Then go
get that girl.

Jerry of ASI

avocet

2005-08-23, 5:48 pm

"David" <david@fake.email> wrote in message
news:1ewou1tiuixz$.1x7iqn6ckh4wh$.dlg@40tude.net...
> Hi,
>
> I'm 31 and am having serious issues with my sexual performance. In the
past
> I have had girlfriends and some penetrative sex with them too, although
> I've never been the kind of guy who can last for very long (as in, I lose
> my erection, not as in I shoot my load too quickly...)
_______

Hi, David;

Yes, get the hormonal panels done. That will provide you with good info
whether or not you have some kind of hormonal problem.

But also consider having a Doppler Color Sonogram. Simple test, not very
expensive. Reason for that one is that venous leakage can act much like you
describe - getting erections, but not being able to sustain them - and
you'll want to rule that condition in, or out and the Doppler can usually
pinpoint it if it is happening. They've made good strides in venous leakage
tie-offs with pretty high success rates reported by doctors who have a lot
of experience doing them.

Jerry's suggestion of Trimix is a good one. It very often works beautifully
when other drugs give iffy results. You might try a run on that, dropping
it later if you get resolved whatever it is that is happening. I am sure
you have a good measure of performance anxiety going on, too, especially
after your recent partner flew the coop.

Jim

Franck

2005-08-23, 5:48 pm

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:15:42 -0700, "Jerry Sturdivant"
<jerryst@cox.net> wrote:

>Viagra should be taken on an empty stomach (no eating for 3-4 hours). If you
>crush it (or dissolve it in a one-inch glass of water) and wash it down with
>a glass of water, you should have a response (flushing face) in about
>10-minutes. I don't see reaction to Cialis for a number of house (because I
>take it before going to (non-sex) bed). And it discussed as not being as
>'intense' as Viagra.

Do you use both Viagra and Cialis? And if so, are there circumstances
which tend to favourise using either the one or the other?

Wanderer

2005-08-23, 5:48 pm

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:06:31 -0400, David wrote
(in message <1ewou1tiuixz$.1x7iqn6ckh4wh$.dlg@40tude.net> ):

> Recently, I met a new girl who I really liked. So it was just my luck she
> turned out to be something of a sex addict who needs penetration

That's basically a description of a healthy woman... not a sex addict.

> She has now effectively called off our budding
> relationship. Now, reading this you might question the character of someone
> who dumps me for these reasons, and you might be right, but it does cause
> me to face up to what is obviously an impotence problem.

Actually, it doesn't give me the slightest question about her character, and
if her actions get you to finally face up to your impotence problem, you owe
her a great debt of gratitude.
>
> Reading this group, does taking it after a meal (a few hours
> after) or with alcohol greatly affect the effect of these drugs?

Are you using alcohol to cope with your performance anxiety? That's not
generally a good idea.
>
> Sorry for this long rambling post, it's late and I guess it just feels good
> letting it all out. Would appreciate some suggestions on what to do next,
> or maybe even information from guys who've been in similar positions.

Reading between the lines in your post, it sounds like you don't have much
interest in sex. Do you have morning erections? Nocturnal erections? Do you
masturbate successfully? Do you only have trouble maintaining your erection
once you are inside a woman? These are the kinds of questions that may
provide clues as to whether your problem is psychological or physical.
Generally speaking, Viagra or Cialis are effective against
psychologically-driven ED problems. But when you say you get yours off the
Internet... from who? What dosage? Maybe you got a bad batch.

I agree with others here who have advised you to take get all the medical
tests. At your age, you should be enjoying sex to its fullest.

David

2005-08-24, 8:50 am

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:09:09 GMT, Wanderer wrote:

>
> That's basically a description of a healthy woman... not a sex addict.

You cleverly snipped the latter part of my sentence... I have known a
number of women, intimately, so I think I'm in a position to make that
call.

> Actually, it doesn't give me the slightest question about her character, and
> if her actions get you to finally face up to your impotence problem, you owe
> her a great debt of gratitude.

I beg your pardon? Instead of a bit of patience, reassurement or whatever
she decides to ditch me? That's not really what a nice loving partner does,
is it.
I was in what could be termed the reverse situation a few years ago - a
girl had psychological hangups about sex and I quite literally couldn't get
inside her (she was too tense). But I said I was in no rush, and eventually
we got it to work...

> Are you using alcohol to cope with your performance anxiety? That's not
> generally a good idea.

Not at all, it's just that we usually ended up going home together at night
after a few drinks etc.

> Reading between the lines in your post, it sounds like you don't have much
> interest in sex.

OK, is this a troll? If I wasn't that interested in sex why would I bother
with this whole post? To nurse my wounded pride? ;)

> Do you have morning erections?

Yes. First thing my doc asked me, incidentally.

> Nocturnal erections?

I can only assume I do.

> Do you
> masturbate successfully?

Yes, but then again I've had years of practice at it.

> Do you only have trouble maintaining your erection
> once you are inside a woman?

It's the only time I notice, for sure. Whether your cock is 100% hard
during masturbation or blowjobs isn't something you'd usually notice...

> These are the kinds of questions that may
> provide clues as to whether your problem is psychological or physical.
> Generally speaking, Viagra or Cialis are effective against
> psychologically-driven ED problems. But when you say you get yours off the
> Internet... from who? What dosage? Maybe you got a bad batch.

That would be a nice thought, but given I've ordered from 2 or 3 suppliers
in the past, and a number of different products, it's not really likely.

> I agree with others here who have advised you to take get all the medical
> tests. At your age, you should be enjoying sex to its fullest.

Indeed I should. :/ Thanks anyway, seems like some medical tests are the
way forward for me.

Cheers,
David

David

2005-08-24, 8:50 am

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:03:03 GMT, avocet wrote:

> Jerry's suggestion of Trimix is a good one. It very often works beautifully
> when other drugs give iffy results. You might try a run on that, dropping
> it later if you get resolved whatever it is that is happening. I am sure
> you have a good measure of performance anxiety going on, too, especially
> after your recent partner flew the coop.

That is pretty close to the truth I'd say - with my last long-term
girlfriend getting it up wasn't a very frequent problem (used to take
Viagra), although even then we'd never be able to have intercourse for
longer than, say, 5-10 minutes before I lost my erection or came.

Thanks,
David

David

2005-08-24, 8:50 am

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:15:42 -0700, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:

> It's time to get serious. First a few basic questions: Are you taking any
> other medicines? Do you drink a lot of coffee? (Coke, chocolate, i.e.
> Caffeine) Are you carrying any baggage? (Abused as a child). Are you into
> heavy exercise? Stress on the job?

No other medications, though being a Brit I do drink several cups of tea a
day.

Not abused as a child, no more than a few extra pounds, no exercise fanatic
either...

> Viagra should be taken on an empty stomach (no eating for 3-4 hours). If you
> crush it (or dissolve it in a one-inch glass of water) and wash it down with
> a glass of water, you should have a response (flushing face) in about
> 10-minutes. I don't see reaction to Cialis for a number of house (because I
> take it before going to (non-sex) bed). And it discussed as not being as
> 'intense' as Viagra.

Interesting. Sometimes I have felt a clear response to Viagra (flushed
face, erection) as it's meant to happen, other times it's as if I hadn't
taken the damn stuff at all. Do you know if things like a full stomach or
alcohol delay the effects or cancel them out completely?
Have you ever tried Levitra?

> That's the bummer. Anxiety can cause a loss of erection and knowing you
> might lose your erection causes anxiety. (And women thing THEY have
> problems?).

Yeah, well said! It's like a vicious circle, especially when you're with a
new partner.

> Look over the above suggestions and see if there's anything there. Then see
> a urologist. He'll know if you need some blood tests and is more tuned to
> the area of your interest, as compared to a GP.

Is there a way to get directly referred to a urologist? I'm not exactly
sure how this works here in the UK.

> But don't give up hope.

Thanks, Jerry.

> There is always the guaranteed erection (as I call it). Many of us have gone
> to tri-mix (injections). No worrying about when to eat. No worrying if you've
> drank too much coffee. No side effects. We experienced user actually decide
> on how long we what our erections to last. It's like dial-an-erection.

The major disadvantage with this, of course, is that it's almost impossible
to conceal and makes spontaneity nigh impossible, doesn't it? A pill is
easily concealed in your wallet and easily taken during a visit to the
toilet, for example. I guess it's different if you have a long-term
partner, but I'm free and single (though not having as much sex as I
should, as I said in my first posting!)

> So look at your medicines, caffeine, stress and see that urologists. Then go
> get that girl.

Thanks again Jerry, I'll make another appointment with my doctor and ask to
have tests/see a urologist. That way I might at least be able to to
pinpoint the problem better.

Cheers,
David

Wanderer

2005-08-24, 8:50 am

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 0:39:45 -0400, David wrote
(in message <1bu3oq66e68aw.lcdsc2ggzzwv$.dlg@40tude.net> ):

>
> Yes. First thing my doc asked me, incidentally.
>
>
> I can only assume I do.
>
>
> Yes, but then again I've had years of practice at it.

>
>
> It's the only time I notice, for sure. Whether your cock is 100% hard
> during masturbation or blowjobs isn't something you'd usually notice...

From your answers to the questions above, it sounds like you have a classic
case of performance anxiety -- compounded by denial.

Just for the record, being hard during masturbation or oral sex is definitely
something most normal men would notice. That is, they would notice if they
weren't hard. If you can get hard and stay hard for blowjobs and
masturbation, and if you generally wake up with an erection, it is highly
unlikely that you have a physical problem. Tests are the only way to know for
sure. But you might consider some form of counseling as well, from a
knowledgeable therapist who works with performance anxiety issues. There are
a number of simple techniques that can help you overcome the problem.

I also wouldn't give up on Cialis/Levitra/Viagra until you have tried the
actual pharmaceutical versions of these drugs in a doctor-prescribed dosage.
Viagra needs to be taken on an empty stomach... they usually start you with a
50 mg dosage, but 100 mg doses are also prescribed. You shouldn't consume
much alcohol with it... no more than a glass of wine. And it can take an hour
or so to kick in. After that, you have a four hour window of opportunity. It
only works with sexual stimulation... it doesn't miraculously produce an
erection. Cialis provides a longer window of opportunity (36 hours and up),
and can be taken with food. You also shouldn't drink much with Cialis. In
some cases, Cialis works when Viagra doesn't. Ditto for Levitra. So try them
all in therapeutic doses (the genuine pharmaceutical brands) before you give
up on them.

Wanderer

Jerry Sturdivant

2005-08-24, 5:47 pm

"David" <david@fake.email> wrote

> Do you know if things like a full stomach or alcohol delay
> the effects or cancel them out completely?

A full stomach will nearly always cancel out your Viagra.

> The major disadvantage with this, [injections] of course,
> is that it's almost impossible to conceal and makes spontaneity
> nigh impossible, doesn't it?

With a slight modification to the syringe (cut off its ears), you'll find it
can be conceal in a cigar sleeve or a large pen. Also, you can roll it in a
Kleenex (perhaps with a Popsicle stick to prevent the injector being pushed)
and easily carried in a shirt pocket. As for the spontaneity, a proper
injection causes about an 80% erection, with stimulation increasing it to
100%. Also, you can have your injected erection last a couple of hours. And
I believe we're all practiced in how to hide erections in public.

Jerry of ASI

David

2005-08-24, 10:47 pm

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:18:39 -0700, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:

> A full stomach will nearly always cancel out your Viagra.

Aha. That would explain some dismal failures in the past... I was under the
mistaken assumption it would only delay the effects of the drug.

> With a slight modification to the syringe (cut off its ears), you'll find it
> can be conceal in a cigar sleeve or a large pen. Also, you can roll it in a
> Kleenex (perhaps with a Popsicle stick to prevent the injector being pushed)
> and easily carried in a shirt pocket. As for the spontaneity, a proper
> injection causes about an 80% erection, with stimulation increasing it to
> 100%. Also, you can have your injected erection last a couple of hours. And
> I believe we're all practiced in how to hide erections in public.

So if you don't mind me asking, with these "brute force" methods, does one
stay hard even after ejaculation?

Thanks again,
David

David

2005-08-24, 10:47 pm

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:37:50 GMT, Wanderer wrote:

> From your answers to the questions above, it sounds like you have a classic
> case of performance anxiety -- compounded by denial.

If only it were that. My current thinking is that there is a definite case
of performance anxiety - but compounded by a physical issue, too.
When you say denial, what do you mean? Denial of a performance problem? If
anything, I am probably giving it too much attention, which is what's
causing my recent disasters in bed.

> Just for the record, being hard during masturbation or oral sex is definitely
> something most normal men would notice. That is, they would notice if they
> weren't hard. If you can get hard and stay hard for blowjobs and
> masturbation, and if you generally wake up with an erection, it is highly
> unlikely that you have a physical problem.

How long is a morning erection meant to last? Some last for a mere minute
or two, some much longer.
As for masturbating, it is possible to ejaculate even with just a 60-70%
erection, at least for me.

> I also wouldn't give up on Cialis/Levitra/Viagra until you have tried the
> actual pharmaceutical versions of these drugs in a doctor-prescribed dosage.
> Viagra needs to be taken on an empty stomach... they usually start you with a
> 50 mg dosage, but 100 mg doses are also prescribed. You shouldn't consume
> much alcohol with it... no more than a glass of wine. And it can take an hour
> or so to kick in. After that, you have a four hour window of opportunity. It
> only works with sexual stimulation... it doesn't miraculously produce an
> erection. Cialis provides a longer window of opportunity (36 hours and up),
> and can be taken with food. You also shouldn't drink much with Cialis. In
> some cases, Cialis works when Viagra doesn't. Ditto for Levitra. So try them
> all in therapeutic doses (the genuine pharmaceutical brands) before you give
> up on them.

Thanks for the advice - maybe I haven't been taking these medications quite
right, although given how often I've used them... Now I just need to find
an understanding lady who is patient while I try and find the right dosage.

Thanks for your response,
David

Jerry Sturdivant

2005-08-25, 11:48 am

"David" <david@fake.email> wrote

> So if you don't mind me asking, with these "brute force"

> methods, does one stay hard even after ejaculation?

Yes, if you inject enough. The perfect amount of injection will cause about
an 80% erection if you just stand there. With stimulation, you'll achieve
100%. Stop stimulation, and it should, after a while, go down again. Kind of
like being 18-years old.

If you want a three hour erection and to remain hard after organism, inject
more. If you don't even want sex, but just have a large bulge in your pants,
inject just a little.

Or, if you've seen my story I've posted here, have the doctor accidentally
overdose you and you can have a very painful 8-hour erection that even a
world war couldn't bring down. (I had to be bled).

Jerry of ASI

David

2005-08-25, 10:51 pm

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:35:59 -0700, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:

> Yes, if you inject enough. The perfect amount of injection will cause about
> an 80% erection if you just stand there. With stimulation, you'll achieve
> 100%. Stop stimulation, and it should, after a while, go down again. Kind of
> like being 18-years old.

So it doesn't necessarily look "suspicious" when one stays hard
continuously?

> Or, if you've seen my story I've posted here, have the doctor accidentally
> overdose you and you can have a very painful 8-hour erection that even a
> world war couldn't bring down. (I had to be bled).

Ouch!! That's one of the risks I guess. Hope you recovered from that OK...

Cheers,
David

Jerry Sturdivant

2005-08-26, 8:48 am

"David" <david@fake.email> wrote

> So it doesn't necessarily look "suspicious"
> when one stays hard continuously?

No. Actually, you shouldn't be too concerned about what the woman might
think. In reality, they're probably worrying about how their breasts are
hanging or if their hair is mussed. For the most part, your erections will
probably drop 50% and you can wander proudly about the bedroom.

[vbcol=seagreen]
> Ouch!! That's one of the risks I guess.

Just don't overdose.

> Hope you recovered from that OK...

Sure. It's something to laugh about. Now. I told a few select guys in the
office and by the next morning it was all over the building. Surprisingly,
it was mostly secretaries wanting to know the story. I must have told that
story a hindered times.

Unlike pills, it's difficult to know the number of men that use injections.
But I'll bet it huge.

Jerry of ASI