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| Spike 2005-04-16, 10:00 am |
| I noticed a post here sometime ago about people receiving testosterone
injections discovering that they had high estrogen through the use of an E2
test? I asked my doc and he said they tested by prolactin and it was normal
for me to find out more for him. Can anybody help? My abilities to perform
and desire fluxuate from none to almost. The desire is there byt the
ability gets lost along the way. I just searching. Also if I take a Cialis
I have great nocturnals but I am worried that they might be lasting too long
as I always am errect to some degree when I awaken. Is there cause for
concern? Thanks for any help.
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| Muerta 2005-04-17, 6:11 pm |
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"Spike" <spike@yvn.com> wrote in message
news:z4mdnfeXfdM8iMffRVn-pg@yvn.com...
>I noticed a post here sometime ago about people receiving testosterone
> injections discovering that they had high estrogen through the use of an
> E2
> test? I asked my doc and he said they tested by prolactin and it was
> normal
> for me to find out more for him. Can anybody help? My abilities to
> perform
> and desire fluxuate from none to almost. The desire is there byt the
> ability gets lost along the way. I just searching. Also if I take a
> Cialis
> I have great nocturnals but I am worried that they might be lasting too
> long
> as I always am errect to some degree when I awaken. Is there cause for
> concern? Thanks for any help.
>
>
The erection on waking is called "nocturnal erections" or something like
NPT's. It is natures way of cleaning out the pipes while you're not using
them. It is not only no reason for concern, it's very desrable. There's
reason for concern when you *don't* have them.
Excess E2 can cause the testosterone receptors to shut down. Bringing it
back under control took me about 6 months. I was on androgel for 1 1/2
years. and I produced E2 like it was going out of style. Long story short, I
eventually started injecting on a weekly basis, and was able to keep the
estrogens very nicely in check with just daily doses of Dim. After about 6
months of injecting, I was very surprised at my progress and responsiveness.
You gotta get the E2 test before you know where to go, because too *little*
estrogen is also a cause of ED, and especially a cause of lack of libido.
Since I started injecting and my T level got back to normal, I have great
libido except when I take too much Dim. Then I slack off for a say, and it
comes roaring back.
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| Muerta 2005-04-17, 6:11 pm |
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"Spike" <spike@yvn.com> wrote in message
news:z4mdnfeXfdM8iMffRVn-pg@yvn.com...
>I noticed a post here sometime ago about people receiving testosterone
> injections discovering that they had high estrogen through the use of an
> E2
> test? I asked my doc and he said they tested by prolactin and it was
> normal
> for me to find out more for him. Can anybody help? My abilities to
> perform
> and desire fluxuate from none to almost. The desire is there byt the
> ability gets lost along the way. I just searching. Also if I take a
> Cialis
> I have great nocturnals but I am worried that they might be lasting too
> long
> as I always am errect to some degree when I awaken. Is there cause for
> concern? Thanks for any help.
>
>
The erection on waking is called "nocturnal erections" or something like
NPT's. It is natures way of cleaning out the pipes while you're not using
them. It is not only no reason for concern, it's very desrable. There's
reason for concern when you *don't* have them.
Excess E2 can cause the testosterone receptors to shut down. Bringing it
back under control took me about 6 months. I was on androgel for 1 1/2
years. and I produced E2 like it was going out of style. Long story short, I
eventually started injecting on a weekly basis, and was able to keep the
estrogens very nicely in check with just daily doses of Dim. After about 6
months of injecting, I was very surprised at my progress and responsiveness.
You gotta get the E2 test before you know where to go, because too *little*
estrogen is also a cause of ED, and especially a cause of lack of libido.
Since I started injecting and my T level got back to normal, I have great
libido except when I take too much Dim. Then I slack off for a say, and it
comes roaring back.
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| Doc didn't reply to a request to an E2 test so I got a bottle of DIM and
have tried in now for a week. Seems to make no difference so far. I though
since it is suppose to balance out levels that there would be no harm. But
I am disappointed not to see any change. I will reevaluate when the bottle
is gone in 15 days. Any more ideas or thoughts? Thanks
<raimund_lullus@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:1113223578.626684.237360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> Spike wrote:
> testosterone
> an E2
> normal
>
> Estrogen (more specifically E2) should be monitored in the course of
> any TRT. In contrast to this, Thyroid hormones and prolactin need to be
> done only at the first screening (if found normal).
> After some discussions with my endo (who has 25 years experience with
> TRT) we concurred that (in my case) the most practical way to adjust
> the T is to use the maximum dosis which still keeps E2 and Hematokrit
> in the normal range. The results are excellent.
>
> Cialis
> too long
> for
>
> Definitely not!
>
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| Andrew 2005-04-22, 8:47 am |
| There are online labs where you can have your E2 tested without the
need for your doctor's approval. I have used them before and they do a
good job for the most part. Here are some links to a few of them.
http://www.directlabs.com/index.php
http://www.health-tests-direct.com/
http://www.testmyhormones.com/
If the DIM doesn't seem to be working there are online pharmacies
where you can order medicine that will knock your E levels down to
normal if they are indeed high. In my opinion it is better to have
your E levels tested to see where they are at before you start trying
to treat them. Of course I am no doctor, but I know all about dealing
with uncooperative ones, having had the same problem as you in the
past.
Andrew
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:12:14 -0700, "Spike" <spike@yvn.com> wrote:
>Doc didn't reply to a request to an E2 test so I got a bottle of DIM and
>have tried in now for a week. Seems to make no difference so far. I though
>since it is suppose to balance out levels that there would be no harm. But
>I am disappointed not to see any change. I will reevaluate when the bottle
>is gone in 15 days. Any more ideas or thoughts? Thanks
>
>
><raimund_lullus@yahoo.de> wrote in message
>news:1113223578.626684.237360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
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| Wanderer 2005-04-22, 5:47 pm |
| On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:12:14 -0400, Spike wrote
(in message <tuWdncrdi9h8CfXfRVn-uA@yvn.com> ):
> Doc didn't reply to a request to an E2 test so I got a bottle of DIM and
> have tried in now for a week. Seems to make no difference so far. I though
> since it is suppose to balance out levels that there would be no harm. But
> I am disappointed not to see any change. I will reevaluate when the bottle
> is gone in 15 days. Any more ideas or thoughts? Thanks
Many users find that only a VERY small amount of DIM is required. More than
that wipes out estrogen too effectively, and makes you feel worse. Try going
off it for a few days, then trying a third of a pill or less. According to
users, you know it's working when you start to get nocturnal erections.
Wanderer
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| Muerta 2005-04-22, 10:47 pm |
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"Andrew" <hal@jsszm.com> wrote in message news:
In my opinion it is better to have
> your E levels tested to see where they are at before you start trying
> to treat them.
I can't second that enough. If you don't know your levels at any point, you
don't know "if" you have a problem, or how "bad" that problem is. If your
estrogen is not high, you're just gonna make yourself feel worse by lowering
it.
On the other hand, if it has been high for a long time, getting it back down
is going to let the T receptors get a chance to start re-activating. That's
gonna take at least a few months.
I have never felt astounding-type effects from estrogen control, but I have
found a difference over time after coordinating my efforts with lab tests
and giving the T receptors adequate time to regenerate.
I can now tell by feel when I need to lay off the DIM or when I need to
double the dose.
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| Wanderer 2005-04-24, 10:50 pm |
| On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:12:14 -0400, Spike wrote
(in message <tuWdncrdi9h8CfXfRVn-uA@yvn.com> ):
> Doc didn't reply to a request to an E2 test so I got a bottle of DIM and
> have tried in now for a week. Seems to make no difference so far. I though
> since it is suppose to balance out levels that there would be no harm. But
> I am disappointed not to see any change. I will reevaluate when the bottle
> is gone in 15 days. Any more ideas or thoughts? Thanks
Many users find that only a VERY small amount of DIM is required. More than
that wipes out estrogen too effectively, and makes you feel worse. Try going
off it for a few days, then trying a third of a pill or less. According to
users, you know it's working when you start to get nocturnal erections.
Wanderer
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| Wanderer 2005-04-26, 10:49 pm |
| On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:12:14 -0400, Spike wrote
(in message <tuWdncrdi9h8CfXfRVn-uA@yvn.com> ):
> Doc didn't reply to a request to an E2 test so I got a bottle of DIM and
> have tried in now for a week. Seems to make no difference so far. I though
> since it is suppose to balance out levels that there would be no harm. But
> I am disappointed not to see any change. I will reevaluate when the bottle
> is gone in 15 days. Any more ideas or thoughts? Thanks
Many users find that only a VERY small amount of DIM is required. More than
that wipes out estrogen too effectively, and makes you feel worse. Try going
off it for a few days, then trying a third of a pill or less. According to
users, you know it's working when you start to get nocturnal erections.
Wanderer
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