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What can I take to raise my FSH and LH levels?
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| Joe D. 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
| Hi group, I feel like I am kind of caught in a rut and in need of
some timely advice from you guys if you have a minute to help me out.
Let me start by saying that I am having to more or less diagnose and
treat myself because the endocrinologist will not see me because I do
not have any health insurance.
I have been having problems/symptoms associated with low testosterone
levels for about a year now ( i.e.: ed, low sex drive, lack of energy,
etc.).
I got an appointment about 6 months ago with a semi-retired urologist
who had my T level checked and it was low so he started me out on
semi-weekly injections of T-Cypionate to try and bring my T level back
up to normal range.
At first it seemed like the T injections were working and everything
was getting better but after a couple of weeks I went back to feeling
bad again.
So I went back to the uro and had some more blood test done and here
are my results:
Testosterone Serum: 98 (241-827)
Testosterone Free: 34 (6.8-21.5)
LH: 0.8 (1.5-9.3)
FSH: 0.6 (1.4-18.1)
Estadiol: <15 (<54)
Prolactin: 7.1 (2.1-17.7)
SHBG: 20 (13-71)
PSA 0.3 (0.0-4.0)
When the Uro saw my test results he more or less threw up his hands
and said " You need to see an Endo". So like I said earlier I called
the Endo and it was a no go because of the dreaded "No Insurance".
Since it seems like the T injections aren't doing any good do I need
to treat my low levels of LH and FSH? If so what is the usual
treatment for this problem? Are there any medicines that I can take to
help raise my levels back to normal?
I also have been diagnosed with low thyroid and take 1 grain of
Westhroid daily. Also I have sleep apnea and am on a CPAP machine.
I do not take any other medications and do not have diabetes.
Thanks,
Joe D.
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| ernestnolan 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
| Hi,
I think you need to take yourself to a better endocrinologist even if it is
going to cost you some money you can't afford.
This is serious like other health problems and as you only have one penis
for your very own love life, I would travel a long way and did to get my TRT
and ED problems diagnosed and treated by experts. When you can take a
vacation, make it a productive one for your future by seeing that distant
doctor you need to see.
You can also ask a noted endocrinologist what he thinks your problems are.
Dr. R. Don Gambrell, Augusta GA has a web site located at:
http://www.members.aol.com/gambr999/
Send him and E-MAIL but expect to wait for a reply maybe a week as he
doesn't check his mail often. He also knows the specialists in his field
around the country and may be able to guide you to a better one.
ernestnolan
"Joe D." <joed@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:p81211hgo98kkvetsvh62ehb895fo44379@4ax.com...
> Hi group, I feel like I am kind of caught in a rut and in need of
> some timely advice from you guys if you have a minute to help me out.
>
> Let me start by saying that I am having to more or less diagnose and
> treat myself because the endocrinologist will not see me because I do
> not have any health insurance.
>
> I have been having problems/symptoms associated with low testosterone
> levels for about a year now ( i.e.: ed, low sex drive, lack of energy,
> etc.).
>
> I got an appointment about 6 months ago with a semi-retired urologist
> who had my T level checked and it was low so he started me out on
> semi-weekly injections of T-Cypionate to try and bring my T level back
> up to normal range.
>
> At first it seemed like the T injections were working and everything
> was getting better but after a couple of weeks I went back to feeling
> bad again.
>
> So I went back to the uro and had some more blood test done and here
> are my results:
>
> Testosterone Serum: 98 (241-827)
> Testosterone Free: 34 (6.8-21.5)
> LH: 0.8 (1.5-9.3)
> FSH: 0.6 (1.4-18.1)
> Estadiol: <15 (<54)
> Prolactin: 7.1 (2.1-17.7)
> SHBG: 20 (13-71)
> PSA 0.3 (0.0-4.0)
>
> When the Uro saw my test results he more or less threw up his hands
> and said " You need to see an Endo". So like I said earlier I called
> the Endo and it was a no go because of the dreaded "No Insurance".
>
> Since it seems like the T injections aren't doing any good do I need
> to treat my low levels of LH and FSH? If so what is the usual
> treatment for this problem? Are there any medicines that I can take to
> help raise my levels back to normal?
>
> I also have been diagnosed with low thyroid and take 1 grain of
> Westhroid daily. Also I have sleep apnea and am on a CPAP machine.
> I do not take any other medications and do not have diabetes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe D.
>
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| Joe D. 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
| Thanks for the advice but I am on low income and do not have the funds
or vehicle to travel around the country. I have only been out of the
state once in the past 15 years.
I hate to go around to everyone begging for help unless of course it
is on this newsgroup. LOL
I will give old Dr. Gambrill an email but I don't expect to get much
help from him unless I'm ready to spend a pocket full of money which I
don't have.
I think that I would be better off spending what little money I do
have on medicine to treat my problem. (once I figure out for sure what
it is. LOL)
Joe D.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:37:36 GMT, "ernestnolan" <emiles@stny.rr.com>
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I think you need to take yourself to a better endocrinologist even if it is
>going to cost you some money you can't afford.
>
>This is serious like other health problems and as you only have one penis
>for your very own love life, I would travel a long way and did to get my TRT
>and ED problems diagnosed and treated by experts. When you can take a
>vacation, make it a productive one for your future by seeing that distant
>doctor you need to see.
>
>You can also ask a noted endocrinologist what he thinks your problems are.
>Dr. R. Don Gambrell, Augusta GA has a web site located at:
>
>http://www.members.aol.com/gambr999/
>
>Send him and E-MAIL but expect to wait for a reply maybe a week as he
>doesn't check his mail often. He also knows the specialists in his field
>around the country and may be able to guide you to a better one.
>
>ernestnolan
>
>"Joe D." <joed@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Joe D. 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
| Free T should have read: Testosterone Free 3.4 (6.8-21.5)
Decimal point makes a lot of difference. LOL
Joe D.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:09:18 -0600, Joe D. <joed@nospam.com> wrote:
>Testosterone Free: 34 (6.8-21.5
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| Joe,
While on TRT it's normal for FSH and LH to be suppressed to an extent.
How long since your last injection was it that these tests were done?
It's quite common for new TRT patients to feel really well initially
only to have the benefits fade slightly after a while. The answer may
be to increase your dosage or change treatments. On the latter point,
you might want to try Androgel rather than the injection. The main
downside of injections is that your T levels will "yo-yo" around - high
after an injection but often very low immediately before the next one.
Gel will give you a more constant result.
KF.
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| Joe D. 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
| Thanks for reminding me, I forgot all about the Androgel.
I tried that for a month and it didn't do me any good.
Plus at $200 a month it was way to expensive for me.
I had to borrow the money just to get my prescription filled.
I took a saliva test for Testosterone in December one week after my
last testosterone injection and it came back low so I went off of the
injections in January and had my blood tests done on Feb. 7th.
I have seen ernestnolan's posts touting the benefits of Testosterone
pellet implants but I don't think there is anyway I could afford them
unless I was able to do it myself.
Joe D.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:54:44 +0000, Alan <kipper_fillet@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Joe,
>
>While on TRT it's normal for FSH and LH to be suppressed to an extent.
>How long since your last injection was it that these tests were done?
>
>It's quite common for new TRT patients to feel really well initially
>only to have the benefits fade slightly after a while. The answer may
>be to increase your dosage or change treatments. On the latter point,
>you might want to try Androgel rather than the injection. The main
>downside of injections is that your T levels will "yo-yo" around - high
>after an injection but often very low immediately before the next one.
>Gel will give you a more constant result.
>
>KF.
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| William Koloff 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
| My compounding pharmacy gives me a 3 month supply of testerone gel for
about $49. A lot cheaper than Androgel.
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| Joe D. 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
| I could afford to pay that much. I am paying $100 for a two month
supply of T-Cypionate injectable. Please tell me more.
Do you have to apply the gel daily?
What part of the body do you apply it to?
Shoulders, thighs, scrotum?
Is it a patch or do you just rub it into your skin?
Joe D.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:12:55 -0500, wilkol@webtv.net (William Koloff)
wrote:
>My compounding pharmacy gives me a 3 month supply of testerone gel for
>about $49. A lot cheaper than Androgel.
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| Joe D. 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
| I forgot to ask you if the gel is available in different strenghts?
Maybe the Androgel I tried wasn't strong enough to do me any good.
So I might need something pretty strong to get any benefit.
Joe D.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:12:55 -0500, wilkol@webtv.net (William Koloff)
wrote:
>My compounding pharmacy gives me a 3 month supply of testerone gel for
>about $49. A lot cheaper than Androgel.
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| Muerta 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
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"Joe D." <joed@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:p81211hgo98kkvetsvh62ehb895fo44379@4ax.com...
> Hi group, I feel like I am kind of caught in a rut and in need of
> some timely advice from you guys if you have a minute to help me out.
>
> Let me start by saying that I am having to more or less diagnose and
> treat myself because the endocrinologist will not see me because I do
> not have any health insurance.
>
> I have been having problems/symptoms associated with low testosterone
> levels for about a year now ( i.e.: ed, low sex drive, lack of energy,
> etc.).
>
> I got an appointment about 6 months ago with a semi-retired urologist
> who had my T level checked and it was low so he started me out on
> semi-weekly injections of T-Cypionate to try and bring my T level back
> up to normal range.
>
> At first it seemed like the T injections were working and everything
> was getting better but after a couple of weeks I went back to feeling
> bad again.
>
> So I went back to the uro and had some more blood test done and here
> are my results:
>
> Testosterone Serum: 98 (241-827)
> Testosterone Free: 34 (6.8-21.5)
> LH: 0.8 (1.5-9.3)
> FSH: 0.6 (1.4-18.1)
> Estadiol: <15 (<54)
> Prolactin: 7.1 (2.1-17.7)
> SHBG: 20 (13-71)
> PSA 0.3 (0.0-4.0)
>
> When the Uro saw my test results he more or less threw up his hands
> and said " You need to see an Endo". So like I said earlier I called
> the Endo and it was a no go because of the dreaded "No Insurance".
>
> Since it seems like the T injections aren't doing any good do I need
> to treat my low levels of LH and FSH? If so what is the usual
> treatment for this problem? Are there any medicines that I can take to
> help raise my levels back to normal?
>
> I also have been diagnosed with low thyroid and take 1 grain of
> Westhroid daily. Also I have sleep apnea and am on a CPAP machine.
> I do not take any other medications and do not have diabetes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe D.
>
Joe, see my post above to "untreatable ED-wrong" about raising FSH & LH
levels.
I am worst case scenario, primary hypogonadism, and I do 100~120 mgs of
T-cyp a week, and it works very well, bringing T levels up to about 800
ng/dl.
I am also on CPAP.
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| Muerta 2005-02-15, 8:15 am |
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"Alan" <kipper_fillet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:140220052254445805%kipper_fillet@hotmail.com...
> Joe,
>
> While on TRT it's normal for FSH and LH to be suppressed to an extent.
> How long since your last injection was it that these tests were done?
>
> It's quite common for new TRT patients to feel really well initially
> only to have the benefits fade slightly after a while. The answer may
> be to increase your dosage or change treatments. On the latter point,
> you might want to try Androgel rather than the injection. The main
> downside of injections is that your T levels will "yo-yo" around - high
> after an injection but often very low immediately before the next one.
> Gel will give you a more constant result.
>
> KF.
Gel will also jack the estradiol levels like a big dog.
It aromotazes like no tomorrow. Did it for 1 1/2 years, as have others here.
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