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Trimix: Instant Nodule

Mark in WA

2004-08-21, 11:14 am

I've been injecting for a couple years with 30/1/10 Trimix.
Typically, I'll inject 20-25 units (.20 ml) using a 50 unit syringe
with 29 gauge needle. That dose has always resulted in a duration of
an hour, never more. I always vary the injection site.

Last weekend I injected 30 units. 10 minutes later, I was hard, but
noticed a firm nodule the size of a pea, at the injection site. The
duration was much greater than an hour--it was about 3.

The next day, I noticed bruising over a couple square inch area around
the injection site. More worrisome was the pea size nodule which was
still present. Today, the bruising is almost gone, but the nodule
persists.

I've had bruising once before, but never a nodule. I'm kind of
distressed about it, but am hoping it will subside over time. I had
taken an aspirin and niacin a couple hours before the injection, and
think that contributed to the excessive bleeding. Also, I've always
applied pressure for about a minute after the shot. In the future,
I'll use the recommended 5 minutes.

avocet

2004-08-21, 7:31 pm

Your nodule will probably resolve itself in a couple more days. Since you
keep changing your injection sites, it wasn't caused by poking the same spot
repeatedly and often.

I agree that applying pressure for awhile is a very good thing.

Having got to the three hour plateau, do you prefer that or one hour
duration?

Jim
"Mark in WA" <844iii200zvr96y6tw@email.com> wrote in message
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> I've been injecting for a couple years with 30/1/10 Trimix.
> Typically, I'll inject 20-25 units (.20 ml) using a 50 unit syringe
> with 29 gauge needle. That dose has always resulted in a duration of
> an hour, never more. I always vary the injection site.
>
> Last weekend I injected 30 units. 10 minutes later, I was hard, but
> noticed a firm nodule the size of a pea, at the injection site. The
> duration was much greater than an hour--it was about 3.
>
> The next day, I noticed bruising over a couple square inch area around
> the injection site. More worrisome was the pea size nodule which was
> still present. Today, the bruising is almost gone, but the nodule
> persists.
>
> I've had bruising once before, but never a nodule. I'm kind of
> distressed about it, but am hoping it will subside over time. I had
> taken an aspirin and niacin a couple hours before the injection, and
> think that contributed to the excessive bleeding. Also, I've always
> applied pressure for about a minute after the shot. In the future,
> I'll use the recommended 5 minutes.
>
>

ernestnolan

2004-08-21, 7:31 pm

Hi,

Think I know what happened.

The injection can be unreliable when injecting into a flacid penis. The
sides of the cavity are collapsed against each other and it is tough to fing
the interior of the cavity to unload the syring. You can even go clear
through past the interior and stab the wall on the other side worst case.
The nodule suggests you injected into the wall of the cavity and the
injection caused a bump under the skin. The nodule gradually weeps out the
ingredients and may have caused a longer erection time.

I found a way to get a good reliable injection every time by doing it this
way.

Tease the penis till you get some significant blood into the cavity and then
squeeze the blood toward the end and hold it firmly to keep it near erect
diameter at the injection site. With these short needles you need to bury
the needle to be sure you are past the wall (doesn't hurt any more as the
tip is what hurts going in). If you want to vary the amount by 10% you can
see what it is like to add more or less.

ernestnolan

"Mark in WA" <844iii200zvr96y6tw@email.com> wrote in message
news:skrei0dlglupvoq1vpbhn6a0cuhk7vpciv@4ax.com...
> I've been injecting for a couple years with 30/1/10 Trimix.
> Typically, I'll inject 20-25 units (.20 ml) using a 50 unit syringe
> with 29 gauge needle. That dose has always resulted in a duration of
> an hour, never more. I always vary the injection site.
>
> Last weekend I injected 30 units. 10 minutes later, I was hard, but
> noticed a firm nodule the size of a pea, at the injection site. The
> duration was much greater than an hour--it was about 3.
>
> The next day, I noticed bruising over a couple square inch area around
> the injection site. More worrisome was the pea size nodule which was
> still present. Today, the bruising is almost gone, but the nodule
> persists.
>
> I've had bruising once before, but never a nodule. I'm kind of
> distressed about it, but am hoping it will subside over time. I had
> taken an aspirin and niacin a couple hours before the injection, and
> think that contributed to the excessive bleeding. Also, I've always
> applied pressure for about a minute after the shot. In the future,
> I'll use the recommended 5 minutes.
>
>

Ignatz Bricks

2004-08-21, 7:31 pm

Mark in Wash writes:

>I've been injecting for a couple years with 30/1/10 Trimix.
>Typically, I'll inject 20-25 units (.20 ml) using a 50 unit syringe
>with 29 gauge needle. That dose has always resulted in a duration of
>an hour, never more. I always vary the injection site.
>
>Last weekend I injected 30 units. 10 minutes later, I was hard, but
>noticed a firm nodule the size of a pea, at the injection site. The
>duration was much greater than an hour--it was about 3.
>
>The next day, I noticed bruising over a couple square inch area around
>the injection site. More worrisome was the pea size nodule which was
>still present. Today, the bruising is almost gone, but the nodule
>persists.

I suspect the lump is caused from trimix that leaked out of the needle puncture
hole in your corpora cavernosa at the time of injection. That trimix was then
trapped between the skin and the corpora cavernosa where you wanted it.

For an account and possible cure, see my report of my boo-boo a year and a
quarter ago.

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Ignatz Bricks

2004-08-21, 7:31 pm

Oops! Accidentally hit the send button while proofreading.

Mark continues:

>The next day, I noticed bruising over a couple square inch area around
>the injection site.

This is usually caused by your hand shaking while injecting. It seems to cause
the puncture wound from injecting to leak more.

>I had
>taken an aspirin and niacin a couple hours before the injection, and
>think that contributed to the excessive bleeding.

Aspirin is a blood thinner and can contribute to bruising.

Niacin is a blood vessel dilator and might also contribute.

Ignatz

Mark in WA

2004-08-21, 7:31 pm

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:16:22 GMT, "avocet" <avocet@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:

>Your nodule will probably resolve itself in a couple more days. Since you
>keep changing your injection sites, it wasn't caused by poking the same spot
>repeatedly and often.
>
>I agree that applying pressure for awhile is a very good thing.

I had gotten away with doing that for only a minute (or less) and
never had any trouble, till this time. I wonder if it was the
aspirin/niacin. I've stopped taking both, because I was so worried
after the nodule developed. But I should continue taking them, and
hope that applying pressure for a longer period will prevent future
problems. Does anyone else out there take aspirin and inject? Baby
aspirin or regular aspirin? Any problems with hematomas?

>Having got to the three hour plateau, do you prefer that or one hour
>duration?

Good question, Jim--I clearly remember thinking, at the time, that I
prefered the one hour duration! After an hour and a half, I felt
uncomfortable, had to urinate (couldn't), and wished it were flacid.
At two hours, I took a few Sudafed, but there was no change. At 2 1/2
hours, I tried ice and a cold shower. By then, it was 2 AM, and I was
worried I'd fall asleep and risk permanent damage. It was still hard,
but I could finally urinate (a good sign, I figured). At three hours
things softened up nicely, and I went to sleep.

Only a few days prior, I had injected 25 units (0.25 ml), and my
erection lasted for less than an hour. Then I go and do 30 units, and
I'm erect for 3 hours. Go figure.

I might never figure this out, but won't give up.

Mark

Mark in WA

2004-08-21, 7:31 pm

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:30:02 GMT, "ernestnolan" <emiles@stny.rr.com>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Think I know what happened.
>
>The injection can be unreliable when injecting into a flacid penis. The
>sides of the cavity are collapsed against each other and it is tough to fing
>the interior of the cavity to unload the syring. You can even go clear
>through past the interior and stab the wall on the other side worst case.
>The nodule suggests you injected into the wall of the cavity and the
>injection caused a bump under the skin. The nodule gradually weeps out the
>ingredients and may have caused a longer erection time.
>
>I found a way to get a good reliable injection every time by doing it this
>way.
>
>Tease the penis till you get some significant blood into the cavity and then
>squeeze the blood toward the end and hold it firmly to keep it near erect
>diameter at the injection site. With these short needles you need to bury
>the needle to be sure you are past the wall (doesn't hurt any more as the
>tip is what hurts going in). If you want to vary the amount by 10% you can
>see what it is like to add more or less.

Thanks, ernestolan.

I sometimes have trouble "teasing" myself, so sometimes inject into my
flaccid member. Not good, as I'm discovering. I ordered a pump, so
maybe a quick pump followed by the injection would be a good way to
go.

Mark

Mark in WA

2004-08-21, 7:31 pm

On 21 Aug 2004 18:40:05 GMT, ignatzbricks@aol.com.no.net (Ignatz
Bricks) wrote:

>Mark in Wash writes:
>
>
>I suspect the lump is caused from trimix that leaked out of the needle puncture
>hole in your corpora cavernosa at the time of injection. That trimix was then
>trapped between the skin and the corpora cavernosa where you wanted it.

I'm thinking along the same lines, Ignatz. But the nodule is not
subcutaneous. Looking at the pertinent anatomy (see the drawing from
this article: http://www.aafp.org/afp/990800ap/549.html), from deep to
superficial, we've got the cavernosa surrounded by the tough tunica
albuginea, the Buck's fascia surrounding the tunica, then the
subcutaneous tissue, and finally, the skin. The bruising was clearly
at the level of the subcutaneous tissue/skin. But the nodule is
deeper, very hard, and very well circumscribed. I think it's a result
of the trimix leaking out of the cavernosa, through the tough tunica,
and creating a hematoma between the tunica and Buck's fascia.

In any event, I hope it will just go away without causing permanent
scarring (and possible Peyronie's).

>For an account and possible cure, see my report of my boo-boo a year and a
>quarter ago.

Thanks, IB, I read it a couple days ago and ordered a pump last night.
I also injected last night (the other side) with the idea that an
erection will help stretch out the potential scar tissue. Since I
don't have a pump, yet, the injection seemed the way to go (0.17 ml).
Also, I'm taking vitamin E oil, 2000 IU/day, which supposedly
decreases scar tissue formation. Colchicine seems too toxic.

Thanks again. I appreciate the help, and will let you all know how it
turns out.

Mark

Mark in WA

2004-08-25, 11:34 am

avocet

2004-08-25, 11:34 am

I agree with both Ignatz and Ernest. If you can fluff yourself up some
first, this gives you a better visual of the veins/arteries that don't show
as well when you are flaccid. And more surface area to aim at.

Priapism is more common with injectibles than with the vasodilator pills (V,
C, and L). I asked my uro. what the percentages were for Trimix. He said
about 5 percent of users, or less. Still, he hates having to drain
priapisms and so goes out of his way to warn about them.

If you want longer duration but less worry, ramp up your dosage in smaller
increments than you did. If you are especially sensitive to the drugs,
you'll get more duration than others of us. At 3 hours you still weren't in
trouble but I hear you about the time of night and the fear of sleeping
until it went down.

Try a couple solo injections, earlier in the evening. That will give you a
good sense of how long this stuff lasts for you and relieve your mind about
when you can sleep. The worry is not all that justifiable. Late in the
evening the shot will cause later nocturnal erections. You wake to one and
think, OMG, I have priapism. Not necessarily so.

Jim
"Ignatz Bricks" <ignatzbricks@aol.com.no.net> wrote in message
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> Oops! Accidentally hit the send button while proofreading.
>
> Mark continues:
>
>
> This is usually caused by your hand shaking while injecting. It seems to
cause
> the puncture wound from injecting to leak more.
>
>
> Aspirin is a blood thinner and can contribute to bruising.
>
> Niacin is a blood vessel dilator and might also contribute.
>
> Ignatz

Mark in WA

2004-08-25, 11:34 am