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"The One True Zhen Jue" <Andrew_Kingoff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You are not the *One True* anything, Andrew.
You history is well known. Filthy mouth, liar and harasser.
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June 7 2000
Andrew Kingoff <aking...@cfl.rr.com> writes:
> jbai...@aol.com (John Bain) wrote:
>'disharmonies'.
>There is no need to bother anyone else.
>Wrong again, John. I gave the number for the Acupuncture Board. Do
>you think they won't know the scope of practice or that disharmonies
>(acupuncture diagnoses) are valid diagnoses in Florida?
That is not what you said, Andrew.
You insisted that 'disharmonies' were defined in the Florida statutes. They
are not.
>Do you think
>that my school's academic dean wouldn't know our licensing and
>accreditation?
Quite irrelevant, the legal definition of disharmonies is the issue..
>This is sad, John. You hate sarcasm so badly that
>you are willing to lie in order to call me a liar.
You are the one who said 'disharmonies' was defined in the Florida statutes.
Do you deny this? kaalga has posted and reposted your exact words.
>You know that licensing board & my school's academic dean
>are VALID sources on this topic. You are lying in order to further
>Kaalga's lie and demonstrate that beautifully in your Evasion
>of confirmation. Bad Boy, Johnny!
They have nothing to do with the Florida Statutes, which are available
on-line
for anyone to read.
Unfortunately you eiither cannot understand them, or you are a liar.
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>Yes, that is my motive for posting the phone# of the licensing board.
>I'm hoping to obscure the topic by insisting that you confirm my
>claims.
Exactly, the licensing board is not responsible for the Florida Statutes.
They license.
>I have contacted Habib who has agreed to call my school on behalf
>of the NG. He will ask the academic dean the pertinate questions
>and any others have may have and will post the results. He will be
>back from vacation around the 14th, so it will posted sometime after
>that.
What questions, Andrew. The only answer we wish from you is the number of
the
Florida statute which defines 'disharmonies' or an apology for stating it
did.
That is the issue and you will not be allowed to evade it.
>I understand your weakness in not being able to separate the messenger
>from the facts. You represent this constantly and not just on this
>topic.
Only messengers who deliberately lie to try and win points.
> You are blinded by your aversion to my prior sarcasm that
>you simply must label me a liar.
No, your words make the case. You said 'disharmonies' was defined in the
Florida statutes. It is not. You lied to make a point.
>You have gone so far as to
>speculate that my school wouldn't have anyone who could handle the
>call without even anecdotal evidence. Ditto for the State Board.
Please tell us why you think there is an expert in the Florida Statutes at
your
school and which statute they would refer us to. Ditto the licensing
board.
All we need is the statute number for 'disharmonies' and they can not supply
that because it does not exist.
>So, if Habib told you he called my school, spoke with the Dean, and
>confirmed what I said, would you accept Habib's word?
Not without the statute number. We are only interested in the number of
the
statute which defines 'disharmonies'.
>Even if you
>don't believe the information itself, would you not accept his account
>of the incident as far as what he asked & heard?
Irrelevant, Statute number is all we need. But we have already examined
the
statutes and there is no reference to 'disharmonies' there.
>If you won't take my word nor that of the institutions involved nor
>that of a neutral 3rd party, then you have clearly labeled your
>position.
Statute number or apology. Our position is perfectly clear. You stated
several times that 'disharmonies' was defined in the Florida statutes.
Either
give us the statute number or aplologise for making the mistake.
Perfectly simple Andrew. Stop dodging the issue. Admit you made a
mistake.
Or be branded a liar.
Best wishes
--
John Bain
UK TV Sound Director, magnotherapy user & distributor
http://members.aol.com/JBainSI/Magnotherapy.html
Surround Sound for Television
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Sept 22 2002
ils...@aol.com5554 (Ilsa Nein) writes:
>Jan, I'm sure that this Andrew is a fine piece of beef-cake, but I don't
>see
>why you air this fixation on MHA. Oh, and if you don't quit calling me
>"fake ilsa", I'll report you to Karuna's knee-jerk ISP.
But Andrew, you are not very good at maintaining your separate personas.
Do you remember this interchange where you forgot which account you were
posting from?
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Message 22
From: Kris Brys (kris.b...@pandora.be)
Subject: Re: why do we need homeopathy?
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
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Date: 2001-10-09 03:30:51 PST
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"Ilsa Nein" <ils...@aol.com5554> schreef in bericht
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> So, you've been taking it for 6 years and you're not cured?
Dear Ilsa,
how many years do you use regular medicine? how many years do you take
antibiotics. Did that cured you permanently?
If you start thinking, even a couple of seconds, you will find out that
people don't cure forever.
A good advice: read Organon of Samuel Hahnemann. When you haven't read that
book you will not understand what homeopathy is all about. Read it and than
ask questions.
greetings
Kris
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Message 23 in thread
From: JKingoff (jking...@aol.com)
Subject: Re: why do we need homeopathy?
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
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Date: 2001-10-09 06:08:38 PST
>Dear Ilsa,
>how many years do you use regular medicine?
I haven't needed regular medicine much. I have had my vaccinations, eat
properly, exercise, and don't take silly risks.
> how many years do you take
>antibiotics
I have taken antibiotics once. I was Rx'd a single pill.
>. Did that cured you permanently?
Well, I felt much better the following day and haven't taken one since and
that
was bout 6 years ago.
>If you start thinking, even a couple of seconds, you will find out that
>people don't cure forever.
Duh. However, some conditions are resolved and in the absence of
re-infection
they don't reoccur.
>A good advice: read Organon of Samuel Hahnemann. When you haven't read that
>book you will not understand what homeopathy is all about. Read it and than
>ask questions.
I've read it and I've read more modern books on it. Its pure hokum and the
few
well controlled studies support that conclusion. Even the study that is
frequently posted to MHA that supposedly proves homeopathy isn't even
FAVORABLE
to homeopathy.
>greetings
>Kris
Show us a replicated, controlled, peer-reviewed study which show that
homeopathy is efficacious. Homeopathy was Hahnemann's way of acting-out
against "the system". It is nothing more than superstition, pseudo-science,
and sympathetic magic.
In the 21st century, we have real medicine and don't need to cling to the
vanity of a long deceased, disaffected 18th century doctor of voodoo.
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