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| Kathleen 2006-05-08, 1:30 am |
| They lied us into a war, which is TREASON, as was
THERMITE in the WTC.
Rove will be indicted for obstruction of justice and it was
because Wilson found out the Niger uranium was a hoax.
Who carried out the hoax? Michael Ledeen.
The facts were being fixed around the policy =3D FRAUD.
Rummy caught hiding behind the lies they fed Powell.
The Bush's hijacked the CIA (Riggs Bank, Iran Contra, etc)
They ruined national security on Iran's nukes supplies
by outing Plame.
Iraq was one big lie planned well before Nov 2000.
The PATRIOT Act, NSA illegal spying, and Homeland Security is
pure Orwell, and pure Straussian and pure Wolfowitz.
Abu Ghraib, TORTURE, black sites and rendition.
Ignoring Geneva Conventions.
"Rebuilding America's Defenses" complete
with the part where we need "forward bases,"
"pre-emptive peace," and a catalytic event like a new
Pearl Harbor, are identical to Bush Doctrine.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/R...casDefenses.pdf
<-- The PNAC "New Pearl Harbor" project see pages 50
and 51 of the .pdf (Sep 2000)
http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm <<-- The policy of
pre-emptive "peace."
GAME OVER.
No one believes any of it any more.
Kathleen
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160132,00.html
Y=2E professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC
By Elaine Jarvik
Deseret Morning News
The physics of 9/11 - including how fast and symmetrically one
of the World Trade Center buildings fell - prove that official
explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young
University physics professor.
In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives"
in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones.
In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed
publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous
skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose
research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at
www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html.
Image
Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News
"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three
(WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says.
Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU,
is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation
"guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by
observations and calculations.
"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all
three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes - which were
actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to
blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.
As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives,
Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that
until we do the scientific investigation."
Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11
Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and
Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept.
11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7,
he says. The official explanation - that fires caused structural
damage that caused the buildings to collapse - can't be backed up by
either testing or history, he says.
Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy
theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition
hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and
therefore is not 'junk science.' "
In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the
book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these
arguments:
=B7 The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling
down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled
demolition" - and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would
terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers
when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do
much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would
they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a
symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here,
along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."
=B7 No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings,
has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever
steel columns, he says.
=B7 WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6
seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object
dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must
be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational
laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike
lower floors - and intact steel support columns - the fall must be
significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper
floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the
collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the
explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed
lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near
free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by
FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.
=B7 With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a
piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the
towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were
falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without
explosives? Remarkable, amazing - and demanding scrutiny since the
U=2ES. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."
=B7 Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed
proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when
pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.
=B7 Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require
temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel - and
neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that
hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a
few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20
minutes in any given location, he says.
=B7 Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center
may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly
used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by
explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of
large quantities of metal," Jones says.
=B7 Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by
numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions
occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.
Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC
collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had
had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if
you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire,
you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which
point "everyone around me started applauding."
Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a
talk at BYU in September.
Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899
photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent
scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten
metal found at Ground Zero.
E-mail: jarvik@desnews.com
Kathleen wrote:
> "Ultimately, the character of America will be determined by your
> willingness to serve a cause larger than yourselves," he said. "The day
> will come when you will be asked what you have done to build a better
> America than the one you found. I am confident that if you answer the
> call to service, your lives will be more fulfilling, your country will
> be more hopeful -- and you will never be disappointed."
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5/06/AR2006050=
600907.html
>
> Bush's speech. LOL.
>
> Therefore,
>
> Join the war protest and scream FRAUD!!! CHEAT!!!
> AWOL MISSION ACCOMPLISHED BOY!!!
> YOU WERE A COKE HEAD IN COLLEGE!!!
> ABUSER OF THE CIA!!
> YOU GOT YOUR START UP MONEY FOR YOUR FIRST FAILED OIL COMPANY FROM THE
> HEAD OF THE CIA SPOOK BANK- UNCLE JONATHAN BUSH!!!
> YOU NEVER WORKED A DAY IN YOUR LIFE!!!
> IRAN-CONTRA!!!
> PRESCOTT BUSH AND THE NAZIS!!!
> WHORE FOR THE NEOCONS AND THE ISRAELI LOBBY!!!
> YOU KILLED 100,000 PEOPLE INCLUDING 3700 AMERICANS on 9/11 !!!
> VIOLENT HEGEMONY!!
> MASS MURDER FOR OIL!!!
>
> TREASON!!
>
> OVERTHROW "THE GOVERNMENT"!!!
>
> Do your duty as an American. Have the rebellion now before it is too
> late.
>=20
> Kathleen
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| Skeptic 2006-05-08, 11:27 am |
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"Kathleen" <kmdickson0308@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147063184.155593.264290@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
They lied us into a war, which is TREASON
you don't know what that word means, obviosly.
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| Stuart 2006-05-09, 11:29 am |
| The notion that the World Trade Centres were felled by controlled demolition
is absurd. Firstly, you would need a couple of dozen rare experts in the
field who would not only permanently keep thier mouths shut, but they would
have to have been wiring the building extensively, with both them and their
wiring and explosives going undetected over large areas within the building,
THEN setup a command centre somewhere to detonate the collapse, all of
course dependent upon the success and timing of a bunch of suicidal lunatics
successfully orchestrating their hijackings, THEN, after the event, leave
ABSOLUTELY no trail of evidence of their activities behind.
Man you Americans can be so idiotic.
Kathleen <kmdickson0308@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147063184.155593.264290@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
They lied us into a war, which is TREASON, as was
THERMITE in the WTC.
Rove will be indicted for obstruction of justice and it was
because Wilson found out the Niger uranium was a hoax.
Who carried out the hoax? Michael Ledeen.
The facts were being fixed around the policy = FRAUD.
Rummy caught hiding behind the lies they fed Powell.
The Bush's hijacked the CIA (Riggs Bank, Iran Contra, etc)
They ruined national security on Iran's nukes supplies
by outing Plame.
Iraq was one big lie planned well before Nov 2000.
The PATRIOT Act, NSA illegal spying, and Homeland Security is
pure Orwell, and pure Straussian and pure Wolfowitz.
Abu Ghraib, TORTURE, black sites and rendition.
Ignoring Geneva Conventions.
"Rebuilding America's Defenses" complete
with the part where we need "forward bases,"
"pre-emptive peace," and a catalytic event like a new
Pearl Harbor, are identical to Bush Doctrine.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/R...casDefenses.pdf
<-- The PNAC "New Pearl Harbor" project see pages 50
and 51 of the .pdf (Sep 2000)
http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm <<-- The policy of
pre-emptive "peace."
GAME OVER.
No one believes any of it any more.
Kathleen
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160132,00.html
Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC
By Elaine Jarvik
Deseret Morning News
The physics of 9/11 - including how fast and symmetrically one
of the World Trade Center buildings fell - prove that official
explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young
University physics professor.
In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives"
in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones.
In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed
publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous
skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose
research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at
www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html.
Image
Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News
"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three
(WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says.
Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU,
is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation
"guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by
observations and calculations.
"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all
three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes - which were
actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to
blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.
As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives,
Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that
until we do the scientific investigation."
Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11
Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and
Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept.
11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7,
he says. The official explanation - that fires caused structural
damage that caused the buildings to collapse - can't be backed up by
either testing or history, he says.
Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy
theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition
hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and
therefore is not 'junk science.' "
In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the
book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these
arguments:
· The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling
down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled
demolition" - and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would
terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers
when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do
much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would
they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a
symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here,
along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."
· No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings,
has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever
steel columns, he says.
· WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6
seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object
dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must
be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational
laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike
lower floors - and intact steel support columns - the fall must be
significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper
floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the
collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the
explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed
lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near
free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by
FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.
· With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a
piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the
towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were
falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without
explosives? Remarkable, amazing - and demanding scrutiny since the
U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."
· Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed
proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when
pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.
· Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require
temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel - and
neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that
hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a
few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20
minutes in any given location, he says.
· Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center
may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly
used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by
explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of
large quantities of metal," Jones says.
· Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by
numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions
occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.
Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC
collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had
had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if
you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire,
you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which
point "everyone around me started applauding."
Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a
talk at BYU in September.
Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899
photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent
scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten
metal found at Ground Zero.
E-mail: jarvik@desnews.com
Kathleen wrote:
> "Ultimately, the character of America will be determined by your
> willingness to serve a cause larger than yourselves," he said. "The day
> will come when you will be asked what you have done to build a better
> America than the one you found. I am confident that if you answer the
> call to service, your lives will be more fulfilling, your country will
> be more hopeful -- and you will never be disappointed."
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...06/AR2006050600
907.html
>
> Bush's speech. LOL.
>
> Therefore,
>
> Join the war protest and scream FRAUD!!! CHEAT!!!
> AWOL MISSION ACCOMPLISHED BOY!!!
> YOU WERE A COKE HEAD IN COLLEGE!!!
> ABUSER OF THE CIA!!
> YOU GOT YOUR START UP MONEY FOR YOUR FIRST FAILED OIL COMPANY FROM THE
> HEAD OF THE CIA SPOOK BANK- UNCLE JONATHAN BUSH!!!
> YOU NEVER WORKED A DAY IN YOUR LIFE!!!
> IRAN-CONTRA!!!
> PRESCOTT BUSH AND THE NAZIS!!!
> WHORE FOR THE NEOCONS AND THE ISRAELI LOBBY!!!
> YOU KILLED 100,000 PEOPLE INCLUDING 3700 AMERICANS on 9/11 !!!
> VIOLENT HEGEMONY!!
> MASS MURDER FOR OIL!!!
>
> TREASON!!
>
> OVERTHROW "THE GOVERNMENT"!!!
>
> Do your duty as an American. Have the rebellion now before it is too
> late.
>
> Kathleen
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| Skeptic 2006-05-09, 11:29 am |
|
> Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC
>
> By Elaine Jarvik
> Deseret Morning News
> The physics of 9/11 - including how fast and symmetrically one
> of the World Trade Center buildings fell - prove that official
> explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young
> university physics professor.
> In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives"
> in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones.
Lol... ok...
Gotta love nutjobs.
What about the FOURTH building? The one the plane didn't make it to? Seems
like pre-planned explosives would have still been able to go off. Where do
these whackos come from?
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