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| omjaroo 2006-09-22, 2:33 am |
| I have a new mouse in the house. I could swear he thinks he is my pet.
He eats my food on the stove while I am standing there. I might be
doing the dishes and he will walk across the counter and when I yell at
him he will scurry down the extention cord, go up and down a couple of
times and then jump to the ground and run. When I am at the computer he
will walk right in the door of my room and walk across my feet. When I
am sleeping he will get up on the bed and nibble on my hair.
I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't a yogi or some saint come to test
my resolve not to kill things. I consider it a compliment of the
highest order to have wild things not afraid of me. But somehow I am
not quite ready to have this fury little thing sitting on my shoulder
while I type, nuzzling my neck. You you know what I mean?
Jared
o
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| NBennett 2006-09-22, 8:31 am |
| oh jared, you're giving me the creeps. i lifted my feet up off the
floor while reading this.
i'm honoured that wild life loves me, like when chipmunks will take a
piece of toast from my hand. but when i came home from a business trip
on sunday night and found a family of raccoons had moved into my
basement in my absense, i was a little less honoured. in my hysteria
and the flurry of removal people, decontamination people, construction
people, insurance people, and overriding stench, i did pause once or
twice to wonder what real yogi's would do in this situation. i felt
quite separate from the notion of loving all and a peaceful existance
for all beings. i actually stopped my own practice because i honestly
wasnt in the mood. i hope to start again, at a studio far away from my
house.
oh- my business trip was in orlando so i had enough of "the mouse" too.
nancy (feet still up)
omjaroo wrote:
> I have a new mouse in the house. I could swear he thinks he is my pet.
> He eats my food on the stove while I am standing there. I might be
> doing the dishes and he will walk across the counter and when I yell at
> him he will scurry down the extention cord, go up and down a couple of
> times and then jump to the ground and run. When I am at the computer he
> will walk right in the door of my room and walk across my feet. When I
> am sleeping he will get up on the bed and nibble on my hair.
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't a yogi or some saint come to test
> my resolve not to kill things. I consider it a compliment of the
> highest order to have wild things not afraid of me. But somehow I am
> not quite ready to have this fury little thing sitting on my shoulder
> while I type, nuzzling my neck. You you know what I mean?
>
> Jared
> o
> ^
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| howdydave 2006-09-22, 4:28 pm |
| Howdy Jared!
I have a couple of house guests too.
They are still a bit stand off-ish.
At my folk's house I was able to capture
their mice and release them in the woods
rather than have them get stuck on those
sticky traps.
I have no problems sharing my apartment with them.
My big problem has been keeping my sliding glass
door shut so that I don't have to share the apartment
with the RATS that have moved into the court yard.
Dave
NBennett wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> oh jared, you're giving me the creeps. i lifted my feet up off the
> floor while reading this.
> i'm honoured that wild life loves me, like when chipmunks will take a
> piece of toast from my hand. but when i came home from a business trip
> on sunday night and found a family of raccoons had moved into my
> basement in my absense, i was a little less honoured. in my hysteria
> and the flurry of removal people, decontamination people, construction
> people, insurance people, and overriding stench, i did pause once or
> twice to wonder what real yogi's would do in this situation. i felt
> quite separate from the notion of loving all and a peaceful existance
> for all beings. i actually stopped my own practice because i honestly
> wasnt in the mood. i hope to start again, at a studio far away from my
> house.
> oh- my business trip was in orlando so i had enough of "the mouse" too.
>
> nancy (feet still up)
>
>
> omjaroo wrote:
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| hbkta@aol.com 2006-09-22, 4:28 pm |
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omjaroo wrote:
> I have a new mouse in the house. I could swear he thinks he is my pet.
> He eats my food on the stove while I am standing there. I might be
> doing the dishes and he will walk across the counter and when I yell at
> him he will scurry down the extention cord, go up and down a couple of
> times and then jump to the ground and run. When I am at the computer he
> will walk right in the door of my room and walk across my feet. When I
> am sleeping he will get up on the bed and nibble on my hair.
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't a yogi or some saint come to test
> my resolve not to kill things. I consider it a compliment of the
> highest order to have wild things not afraid of me. But somehow I am
> not quite ready to have this fury little thing sitting on my shoulder
> while I type, nuzzling my neck. You you know what I mean?
>
> Jared
> o
> ^
the problem with wild rodents in the house, especially in warmer
climes, is the potential danger of Hanta virus.
virus is passed on to humans through contact with excrement from
infected mice,
and is quite lethal.
http://www.hantavirus.net/
be aware,
take care,
and show the little one the door.
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| omjaroo wrote:
> I have a new mouse in the house. I could swear he thinks he is my pet.
> He eats my food on the stove while I am standing there. I might be
> doing the dishes and he will walk across the counter and when I yell at
> him he will scurry down the extention cord, go up and down a couple of
> times and then jump to the ground and run. When I am at the computer he
> will walk right in the door of my room and walk across my feet. When I
> am sleeping he will get up on the bed and nibble on my hair.
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't a yogi or some saint come to test
> my resolve not to kill things. I consider it a compliment of the
> highest order to have wild things not afraid of me. But somehow I am
> not quite ready to have this fury little thing sitting on my shoulder
> while I type, nuzzling my neck. You you know what I mean?
>
> Jared
> o
> ^
Hi Jared,
If you want your mouse be away from your home, several points should be
carried out.
1- All the holes need to be closed...All of them with a great
care...This is the best
solution...In such a way that the mouse will not find any port to
get in.
2- No food should be left around...This is also a good solution for
flies too.
3- A nice cat should be called into the house and the smell of this pet
will not allow any
mouse winthin the house, any guest type cat can do it,if you do not
have her
permanently.
4- Or, a nice serpent can be called in as a pet again,if a cat is not
preferred...Again the
smell of this visitor will not allow mouses in...
Puma
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| omjaroo 2006-09-22, 9:31 pm |
| Nancy,
You are so funny. I always enjoy reading your spin on things :-)
NBennett wrote:
> oh jared, you're giving me the creeps. i lifted my feet up off the
> floor while reading this.
Really though. I was sound asleep, having a fun dream about a group of
good natured transvestites fussing over how they were going to costume
me for a gala ball, when I felt someone behind me twirling the locks of
my hair. I was enjoying it, as it was a pleasant sensation and I
appreciated that someone was being affectionate.
Just then I woke up in my bed and felt the mouse nibbling on my hair. I
don't know if I was just plain sleepy or if I really didn't care, I
just turned to shoo it away and the mouse high tailed it for the other
room. Needless to say I have been shutting my bedroom door when I
sleep, but now the little devil sits outside and scratches to get in
like a dog or cat :-)
> i'm honoured that wild life loves me, like when chipmunks will take a
> piece of toast from my hand. but when i came home from a business trip
> on sunday night and found a family of raccoons had moved into my
> basement in my absense, i was a little less honoured. in my hysteria
> and the flurry of removal people, decontamination people, construction
> people, insurance people, and overriding stench,
This is really funny (I'm sure you didn't think so :-) I can just see
it.
>i did pause once or
> twice to wonder what real yogi's would do in this situation.
Well I guess you found out then? Seems to me you are as real a yogi as
I have ever known.
>i felt
> quite separate from the notion of loving all and a peaceful existance
> for all beings. i actually stopped my own practice because i honestly
> wasnt in the mood. i hope to start again, at a studio far away from my
> house.
I have spent a half hour or so discussing this with you. Of course you
weren't here to hear any of it. But oh well. Bottom line is you sound
like you are right on course. I see you are already incorporating jnana
practice (self-awareness) into your hatha.
> oh- my business trip was in orlando so i had enough of "the mouse" too.
I was asking myself. What, do they have a lot of mice in Florida? I
know they have a lot of really big bugs, but I never heard of a mouse
issue. Then after about 3 hours, I got it :-) As in Micky, right?
> nancy (feet still up)
Being able to hold your feet in the air for that long is definitely a
trait of a Hatha yogi :-)
Jared
o
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| omjaroo 2006-09-22, 9:31 pm |
| howdydave wrote:
> Howdy Jared!
>
> I have a couple of house guests too.
> They are still a bit stand off-ish.
> At my folk's house I was able to capture
> their mice and release them in the woods
> rather than have them get stuck on those
> sticky traps.
I'd be really interested to know how you trapped them. I want to catch
this one and set him free a couple of miles from the house.
On the subject of the sticky traps. I believe these to be the most
inhumane and horrendously ugly ways to kill anything. While the whole
idea of killing is becoming more and more abhorrent to me, I much
prefer the idea of the snap-traps. Generally they kill very quickly.
> I have no problems sharing my apartment with them.
> My big problem has been keeping my sliding glass
> door shut so that I don't have to share the apartment
> with the RATS that have moved into the court yard.
I'm sure you know that yoga does not allow you to draw a distinction
between, bugs, mice, rats, or the home invasion gangster that kicks in
your door or God. Gotta Love em all... And then deal with them :-)
> Dave
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| omjaroo 2006-09-22, 9:31 pm |
| > the problem with wild rodents in the house, especially in warmer
> climes, is the potential danger of Hanta virus.
> virus is passed on to humans through contact with excrement from
> infected mice,
> and is quite lethal.
>
> http://www.hantavirus.net/
>
> be aware,
> take care,
> and show the little one the door.
Yes of course. I agree. The mouse needs to go...
And I appreciate your heads-up. I feel it was well intended.
However I don't need to be afraid of dieing or of the mouse or
hantavirus to come to that conclusion.
I am aware of hantavirus. There was an attempt to create a stir over it
a few years back. It didn't really take. Lucky for the government, SARs
came along. They really got some milage out of that. The president even
suggested the need to suspend the constitution and allow Regular Army
troops to be activated for duty inside the United States to quell
violence and civil unrest when the inevitable pandemic starts. (He
pointed to the case of the New Orleans flood to illustrate how we need
Army troops in time of disaster. The same disaster that was caused by
the governments withholding aid for over a week. Interesting heh? In
this case Regular Army troops were used to police inside the US, a
absolute violation of the constitutional prohibition against doing so.
But no one complained. Heh, who would? We needed it right?) In case
Puma and some of my other yogi friends (who think I am clueless) didn't
notice this move. This is the most direct threat to the freedom of the
world, which has ever been made. (if US freedom falls to fascism -and
it may already have happened- the whole world will follow)
Mad cow, SARs, Hentavirus, Child Molesters, Terrorists. I learned my
lesson about being afraid of all these things I can't control (which
are being used to play us like violins) when the "commie" threat
evaporated in the 80's. I was trained as a child to duck and cover from
nuclear attack and to hate and fear the Soviet Union. And it all turned
out to be smoke. Every bit of it. Every single soul who died in Vietnam
did so to perpetuate a lie. Nope, I'm done being afraid of that which I
can't control. Mice and humans have been coexisting for millions of
years. So have criminals and humans and birds and humans and other
tribes and humans and etc. etc. Fear is a lie. There is only God and
God is Love, there is only Love. This is the Truth. All else is a lie.
And yes, that being said. The mouse still has to go :-)
Thanks
Jared
o
^
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| omjaroo 2006-09-22, 9:31 pm |
| Hi Puma,
I really appreciate your suggestions! They are very good.
> If you want your mouse be away from your home, several points should be
> carried out.
>
> 1- All the holes need to be closed...All of them with a great
> care...This is the best
> solution...In such a way that the mouse will not find any port to
> get in.
Unfortunately this is not possible in this house.
> 2- No food should be left around...This is also a good solution for
> flies too.
This is possible. Any yes I believe you are correct here. I will have
to be a little less lazy :-)
> 3- A nice cat should be called into the house and the smell of this pet
> will not allow any mouse winth in the house, any guest type cat can do it,if you do not
> have her permanently.
Can I borrow yours? I hear she is a real nice cat!
> 4- Or, a nice serpent can be called in as a pet again,if a cat is not
> preferred...Again the smell of this visitor will not allow mouses in...
In english we generally refer to serpents as "snakes". The word
serpents is generally reserved to refer to the Satan or the Devil and
sometime sea monsters or sea serpents :-)
In this area we do have what's called a Mohave rattler
http://www.vtc.net/~buffalo/mojave.html And this is the only place on
earth where this snake occurs. It is however really, really deadly.
Even to humans. So I'm not sure catching one and setting it loose in my
house would be a better alternative to putting up with a pesky (albeit
harmless) mouse :-)
Jared
o
^
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| hbkta@aol.com 2006-09-23, 2:32 am |
| omjaroo wrote:
>
> Yes of course. I agree. The mouse needs to go...
>
> And I appreciate your heads-up. I feel it was well intended.
it was.
>
> However I don't need to be afraid of dieing or of the mouse or
> hantavirus to come to that conclusion.
I agree.
Taking precautions is not necessariily motivated out of fear.
If its presence were totaly benign, what reason would there be for it
having to go?
>
> I am aware of hantavirus. There was an attempt to create a stir over it
> a few years back. It didn't really take. Lucky for the government, SARs
> came along. They really got some milage out of that. The president even
> suggested the need to suspend the constitution
U.S presidents seem rather fond of that idea lately.
> and allow Regular Army
> troops to be activated for duty inside the United States to quell
> violence and civil unrest when the inevitable pandemic starts. (He
> pointed to the case of the New Orleans flood to illustrate how we need
> Army troops in time of disaster. The same disaster that was caused by
> the governments withholding aid for over a week. Interesting heh? In
> this case Regular Army troops were used to police inside the US, a
> absolute violation of the constitutional prohibition against doing so.
> But no one complained. Heh, who would? We needed it right?) In case
> Puma and some of my other yogi friends (who think I am clueless) didn't
> notice this move. This is the most direct threat to the freedom of the
> world, which has ever been made. (if US freedom falls to fascism -and
> it may already have happened- the whole world will follow)
sounds a wee bit puffed up with self (U.S.) importance. perhaps just
another puff of smoke.
democracy and freedom existed prior to the U.S. no doubt they will
exist after the U.S. is no more.
>
> Mad cow, SARs, Hentavirus, Child Molesters, Terrorists. I learned my
> lesson about being afraid of all these things I can't control (which
> are being used to play us like violins) when the "commie" threat
> evaporated in the 80's. I was trained as a child to duck and cover from
> nuclear attack and to hate and fear the Soviet Union.
We did not get fed the "duck and cover" crap in Canada, at least I did
not.
I guess immediately after WW II there was some concern over
possibilities of further war. The house I live in now, built in 1950's
has a bomb shelter of sorts in the basement.
> And it all turned
> out to be smoke. Every bit of it. Every single soul who died in Vietnam
> did so to perpetuate a lie. Nope, I'm done being afraid of that which I
> can't control. Mice and humans have been coexisting for millions of
> years. So have criminals and humans and birds and humans and other
> tribes and humans and etc. etc. Fear is a lie.
Fear may be a lie. as you say: however, on a more practical level,
Bhaya, fear, is vritti associated Manipur chakra.
Manipur chakra is, among other things, controlling nucleus for
digestive system.
> There is only God and
> God is Love, there is only Love. This is the Truth. All else is a lie.
>
> And yes, that being said. The mouse still has to go :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Jared
> o
> ^
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| omjaroo 2006-09-23, 2:32 am |
| > sounds a wee bit puffed up with self (U.S.) importance. perhaps just
> another puff of smoke.
> democracy and freedom existed prior to the U.S. no doubt they will
> exist after the U.S. is no more.
I hope you are right. However my concern is more economic then social
or political. When the US hiccups economically the whole world feels
it. Any implosion or collapse would create a devastating adjustment
around the world.
I forgot to mention west-nile disease. That makes each mosquito bite a
potential threat.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Fear may be a lie. as you say: however, on a more practical level,
> Bhaya, fear, is vritti associated Manipur chakra.
> Manipur chakra is, among other things, controlling nucleus for
> digestive system.
Well that explains it then, because that is right where my fear goes;
straight to the stomach. My mom was that way too.
Jared
o
^
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| Lawson English 2006-09-23, 8:28 am |
| omjaroo wrote:
> Hi Puma,
>
> I really appreciate your suggestions! They are very good.
>
>
> Unfortunately this is not possible in this house.
>
>
> This is possible. Any yes I believe you are correct here. I will have
> to be a little less lazy :-)
>
>
> Can I borrow yours? I hear she is a real nice cat!
>
>
> In english we generally refer to serpents as "snakes". The word
> serpents is generally reserved to refer to the Satan or the Devil and
> sometime sea monsters or sea serpents :-)
>
> In this area we do have what's called a Mohave rattler
> http://www.vtc.net/~buffalo/mojave.html And this is the only place on
> earth where this snake occurs. It is however really, really deadly.
> Even to humans. So I'm not sure catching one and setting it loose in my
> house would be a better alternative to putting up with a pesky (albeit
> harmless) mouse :-)
>
> Jared
> o
> ^
>
Even a garden snake will do just fine. We have a 3.5 month old kitten
that likes to catch mice. We think she might be 1/2 domestic/1/2
exotic-bobcat-hybrid (IE, 1/4 bobcat) because of various things (in
addition to catching mice at 12 weeks old): she started out small at 6
seeks and has grown to the size of a small adult cat in the past 8
weeks. She is quite violent in her play and will chase you around the
house on her hindlegs--at least for a few steps at a time. She also
likes to chase things AROUND her catscratching thing, while still on
it. She will gnaw your hand to the bone (or pretend to) and when you
push her away she will leap up on you and attack your shoulder (when
you're lying down). She climbs trees quite well and doesn't wait for
someone to come get her. She climbs straight down to within jumping
distance of the ground --head first.
Finally she's a short-haired striped grey cat with orange spots on her
belly and she has tufts in her ears like a bobcat's. Did I mention she's
been catching mice since she turned 12 weeks?
Anyway, the bobcat hybrids (desert lynx) are supposed to be quite
expensive, but are supposed to be great mousers--she certainly is.
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| omjaroo wrote:
> Hi Puma,
>
> I really appreciate your suggestions! They are very good.
>
>
> Unfortunately this is not possible in this house.
Why not? Do you live in a sponge type of a house or something?
>
>
> This is possible. Any yes I believe you are correct here. I will have
> to be a little less lazy :-)
>
>
> Can I borrow yours? I hear she is a real nice cat!
It would be my pleasure but my lovely cat is an old one as myself. She
is just sleeping on these days,not very healthy I mean...But still her
smell is good enough for a mouse.
>
>
> In english we generally refer to serpents as "snakes". The word
> serpents is generally reserved to refer to the Satan or the Devil and
> sometime sea monsters or sea serpents :-)
Well, thanks for your kind help enhancing my vocabulary, however I`ve
got the meaning of serpent from following place...I think these people,
who are on this work of (word - meanings) are also not native
speakers, as Puma :
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dictionary I have found states as follows:
Serpent may mean:
* Serpent (symbolism), the name given to a snake in a religious or
mythological context
* Serpent (band), the heavy metal band
* Serpent (instrument), a member of the brass family
* Serpent (constellations) in astronomy
* Serpent (cipher) in cryptography
* HMS Serpent, the British Royal Navy ship
* Serpent Modelracing, a dutch model car manufacturer.
Serpent may also be:
* Another word for snake
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> In this area we do have what's called a Mohave rattler
> http://www.vtc.net/~buffalo/mojave.html And this is the only place on
> earth where this snake occurs. It is however really, really deadly.
> Even to humans. So I'm not sure catching one and setting it loose in my
> house would be a better alternative to putting up with a pesky (albeit
> harmless) mouse :-)
>
> Jared
I am not talking about any rattlesnake, I am talking about a snake
which can be found in any pet shop easily, having no poison...A lovely
and innocent one...Size is not important though.
A house mouse can be deadly too. if he/she beats you from one of your
appropriate part.
With compassion,
Puma
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| howdydave 2006-09-23, 9:33 pm |
| Howdy jared!
omjaroo wrote:
> howdydave wrote:
>
> I'd be really interested to know how you trapped them. I want to catch
> this one and set him free a couple of miles from the house.
>
While he was playing at my feet I covered him with an empty margerine
tub.
Next I slid a piece of cardboard underneath to trap him.
Then I just picked it up, took it outside and released the mouse.
> On the subject of the sticky traps. I believe these to be the most
> inhumane and horrendously ugly ways to kill anything. While the whole
> idea of killing is becoming more and more abhorrent to me, I much
> prefer the idea of the snap-traps. Generally they kill very quickly.
>
I did kill one mouse in my folks house that got caught in a sticky
trap.
The most humane method that I came up with was a gentle blow to
the head with a hammer.
I felt sick for about a day afterwards.
>
> I'm sure you know that yoga does not allow you to draw a distinction
> between, bugs, mice, rats, or the home invasion gangster that kicks in
> your door or God. Gotta Love em all... And then deal with them :-)
>
I love 'em all, it's just that I feel no guilt about not reporting
mice to my landlord. Rats would be another story what with
the Health Department and all.
Dave
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| omjaroo 2006-09-24, 2:31 am |
| > > I'd be really interested to know how you trapped them. I want to catch
[vbcol=seagreen]
> While he was playing at my feet I covered him with an empty margerine
> tub.
> Next I slid a piece of cardboard underneath to trap him.
>
> Then I just picked it up, took it outside and released the mouse.
So you just caught him by hand. Not what I wanted to hear :-) I went
down to the hardware store to day and bought a niffy set of traps for
$5. They are little plastic "mouse shaped" containers with a door on
one end. You put a little peanut butter or chocolate in the end of the
trap and when the mouse enters to get it the door swings down by
gravity and shuts. The you just pick it up carry out side and open the
door to let him out.
Problem is this mouse seems to be very clever. Twice already it has
just tripped the door, so when I hear it shut and check it; it is empty
:-)
>
> I did kill one mouse in my folks house that got caught in a sticky
> trap.
> The most humane method that I came up with was a gentle blow to
> the head with a hammer.
>
> I felt sick for about a day afterwards.
As well you should! (ouch, I feel for you :-( However, next time
just drop it in a bucket of water. A little slower buy much less messy.
>
> I love 'em all, it's just that I feel no guilt about not reporting
> mice to my landlord. Rats would be another story what with
> the Health Department and all.
Oh well then, just add the Health Dept. to the list above :-)
Jared
o
^
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| hbkta@aol.com 2006-09-24, 9:36 pm |
|
omjaroo wrote:
>
> I hope you are right. However my concern is more economic then social
> or political. When the US hiccups economically the whole world feels
> it. Any implosion or collapse would create a devastating adjustment
> around the world.
>
that is beyond my control,
and not worth any worry,
shit happens, if and when, that is the time to deal with it.
>
> I forgot to mention west-nile disease. That makes each mosquito bite a
> potential threat.
>
I have never been overly fond of being bitten by mosquitos.
>
> Well that explains it then, because that is right where my fear goes;
> straight to the stomach. My mom was that way too.
>
> Jared
> o
> ^
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| omjaroo 2006-09-25, 2:34 am |
|
> shit happens, if and when, that is the time to deal with it.
Of course, there's only "now" :-)
> I have never been overly fond of being bitten by mosquitos.
Nor I :-)
Jared
o
^
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| howdydave 2006-09-25, 2:34 am |
|
omjaroo wrote:
>
> Of course, there's only "now" :-)
>
>
> Nor I :-)
>
> Jared
> o
> ^
There's always DEET or Deep Woods Off.
Dave
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