| dick blister 2006-09-15, 4:24 pm |
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<ozcan64@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> So much negativity here in this topic. I don't know how I got myself
> into this.
>
> For thise who are calling others a master - please continue being the
> slave of your desires.
For me, it isn't so much about slave and master as it is about recognizing
an individual that has attained a level of enlightenment, liberation, union
or whatever you want to call it.
>There is not much I can do to help you.
Is this not setting yourself above others by implying that you have
something to hand down to them. Isn't there a danger that the person you are
helping will set you up as a master, a saviour, a guru? As soon as you
perceive someone as lacking something, you are setting yourself above
them....or at least better than them.
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> The world is at its best at the moment. There is destruction and death
> but there is also peace and love. Only a negative being would paint a
> picture of darkness and destruction, one who is confused and lost in
> all the happennings that are going on.
>
> If someone is really calling someone else a MAster or Guru or whatever,
>
> WHY ARE YOU HERE? Are you lost?
>
> My question is to you and please answer it to yourself. The moment you
> write a comment for this message is an indication that you are confused
> and in need of some assistance. But the only way, confusion can be
> removed is by stop exhonarating others and see the true spark within
> yourself.
This is the only thing that really confuses me. First you invite people to
submit an answer. Then, before anyone replys, you insult them by telling
them thast they are confused for doing so.
Please explain what you mean when you say "stop exonerating others"?
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> You see our beliefs condition us fullstop. Our lifes are based on our
> beliefs.
> Our beliefs are the most solid grounding that exists for each
> individual that it is extremely difficult to go outside its boundaries.
> Once you have mastered the power within, and tell it to journey
> outside the boundaries of your belief system, with an open mind, you
> will enter a new level of understanding. This new level of
> understanding shows a bigger picture of life adds "a meaning to life".
I find beliefs require judgements and judgements require certain biases and
prejudices which is all ego stuff.
The most solid ground I have experienced is the boundless silence of deep
meditation. There are no boundaries as my awareness of Self is limitless.All
labels and judgements are dissolved within the expansive experience of pure
existance beyond labels, names, words and thoughts.
It is truly the fulfillment of "All This Is That"
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> To wake or not to wake,
> To be the MAster or not to be a master (follower).
>
> Calling someone a master is the same as calling yourself a follower.
> If you're a follower of someone or something than you're condition by
> your beliefs.
When I call someone a master, I;m just recognizing that they have
accomplished some degree of mastry in some specific area of life...like a
master mechanic, a master craftsman, a master of Ti Chi etc. I don't see
that as giving away some aspect of myself but simply honoring some degree of
refinement within myself. I could not recognize in the other person an
aspect or quality that I don't carry within myself.
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> There really is no greater person that the person who you are, and I'm
> not talking about the body you carry. Understand this and my friend
> you will realise the truth behind every word and every act in your
> life.
I do realize that a deep level, we are all one. As it says in the
Upanishads: I Am That, Thou Art That, All This Is That.
When I look at a person I see them in this light no matter how much pain and
anguish they may be experiencing at the time.
They don't require my benevelance or hand me down generousity. All they need
is my unconditional love and acceptance even when they are incapable of
loving or accepting themselves.
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> But, the greatest of beings are those who put others before themselves.
> What a twist but true. We prove this everyday, if you have children
> then you'll understand.
> I don't believe that anyone really does anything truly altruistic. There
> is always a payoff. It may just be that it makes them feel good about
> themselves. But every good deed is purely self-serving. It's always about
> ourselves. As human beings it is in our nature to be self serving. That is
> the basis of fulfillment of any desire, even the desire for self
> liberation, enlightenment, salvation whatever.
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> Life is full of twists, perception changes from the different
> viewpoints.
> Change the viewpoint and you can change what you have perceived and
> guess what you can alter your beliefs based on your perception.
>
> Thats enough for now. These came directly from my intuition.
My stuff came from a distended bowel
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