| lackpurity 2006-09-08, 4:29 pm |
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karmalube wrote:
> We are all one. It is only maya that keeps us ignorant of that reality.
MM:
"Only maya?" We have been lost for millions of years, due to "only
maya." How can you belittle such a prominent problem?
> That's why we need a guide to point us in the direction of our true
> transcendent reality.
MM:
A True Guide points, but he does much more than that, as I've tried
repeatedly to explain. The True Guide strikes a deal with Satan, to
free us. The True Guide must be more powerful than Satan, otherwise
there is no liberation. Get it?
> I am that, thou art that, all this is that.
MM:
This is the jaded "cart before the horse syndrome." Let's leave the
dreamland, fantasyland, and wishful thinking. Try facing reality for a
change. You'd be surprised how much it can help.
> We can remain in the relative and still be liberated (enlightened) and
> function as a householder or recluse.
> On every level of consciousness, we experience reality according to the
> quality and purity of our physical being.
> To attain enlightenment is to embody enlightenment on all levels of being,
> physical, mental, spiritual etc.
MM:
Same syndrome. We need to face the reality, realize that we are
beggars, realize that we are shipwrecked, and need a resuer to reach
home. After reaching the True Home, then we can discuss what you've
written.
> When we have escaped the dellusion and ignorance of maya, we experience
> "THAT" which is spoken of in the Upanishads.
MM:
Sure. That's a big "when." We need to fight with the mind, give
proper time to meditation, etc., to do all that, and above all we need
a Sat Guru, True Master.
> Within the very core of our being, we are all one in the absolute (one with
> God, in God, of God), it is of our deluded ego self that
> keeps us blind to the reality of our true transcendent self.
MM:
That's right.
> We only experience separation (from God) when we live life on the basis of
> the intellect alone.
> When we are lost in the delusion of maya (ignorance) we are constantly
> trying to make sense of our selves, of creation and our place
> within creation.
MM:
Yes.
> When we have become established on the spiritual level of the absolute,
> (transcendental consciousness) we are in harmony with all creation.
> There is no more need to search, but simply to be and to live as an
> expression of "THAT".
MM:
That is how Saints operate. They are obeying the commands of the
Supreme Being.
> The proper use of the will is to align the small ego self with the higher
> self...."Gods will" if you will.
> I find that's what TM offers me. The dipping of the cloth as mentioned
> previously.
> Gradually the small self becomes tuned into a higher reality that at some
> point becomes a natural state of being.
MM:
We reach the point, to which our Guru reached. We can't go further
than the Guru.
> Transcendental consciousness revealed a deeper reality beyond the prison of
> waking, dreaming, sleeping.
> It enlightened me. Now it's just a matter of continuing to expand my
> awareness and experience of "THAT".
MM:
It's not clear what level you're discussing, but I congratulate you on
whatever concentration of mind, you have achieved.
> Simply, by continuing to meditate as I was taught, I've come to a place of
> deep inner peace beyond all understanding.
> I can best describe it in the following words:
> You breath in, you breath out, the rest is just details.
> Thank you for the inspiration to see and reflect.
> ==============================================
> I remember an analogy I heard some time ago.
> {You can't describe the taste of strawberry ice-cream to a person who has
> never tasted strawberry ice-cream.}
> {They have no reference point to know what you are describing.}
MM:
Yes, that applies to many of us.
Michael Martin
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