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So what exactly is life for anyway?
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| omjaroo 2006-07-31, 2:24 am |
| Seems to me that life is simply a never ending process of trying not to
die...
Bottom line - I don't see a whole lot of value in it.
What do you think?
Jared
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www.omjaroo.com
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| On 2006-07-30 19:45:27 -0700, "omjaroo" <omjaroo@yahoo.com> said:
> Seems to me that life is simply a never ending process of trying not to
> die...
Dark night of the soul Jared?
Sounds like your in a life crisis thats pulling you down to survival
mode. Every decision locked into trying to get through it all. I hope
things turn around for you and you begin to prosper from the
experience. Nietzsche_ said something like, "What doesn't kill us will
make us stronger".
Its half full or its half empty. A dude with as much faith as yourself
should be able to keep in mind that the survival thing is a minimum
life requirement.
Gotta rise above the survival thing. Look towards the light. Get out
of yourself. There is a much bigger perspective out there.
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> Bottom line - I don't see a whole lot of value in it.
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> What do you think?
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> Jared
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> www.omjaroo.com
The question of life's value is absurd. Its like looking for causes.
Being, life, existance, now, just is. No time, no space, no usenet
missives, no drinks, or drugs, or tax collectors.
Make the best of the moment. Contact it. There is an intelligence to
the moment that is available for you. Doesn't really have value or any
other noun to pin down the spontaneous creative intelligence of it all.
Embrace the pain and then let it go.
Hope that doesn't come off as trite, but I am concerned.
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~Stu
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| hrwire@gmail.com 2006-07-31, 4:28 pm |
| Jared.........you have a pretty philosophical outlook towards
life......something I don't find among other members here.
I'd like to include this quote here by Swami Vivekananda "This life is
short, the vanities of the world are transient, but they alone live who
live for others, the rest are more dead than alive. "
The maha-mrityunjay mantra (mrityu=death) is also helpful if you can
master it.
Sharath
Om Shanti
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| Hi Jared,
Life, to me, is a continuous searching. We are after a continuous
aim...But the important point is to know what one is looking for, that
is we have to be mindful on whatever we are searching...If we are not
aware what we are after...Then life becomes boring...
With compassion,
Puma
omjaroo wrote:
> Seems to me that life is simply a never ending process of trying not to
> die...
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> Bottom line - I don't see a whole lot of value in it.
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> What do you think?
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> Jared
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> www.omjaroo.com
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"omjaroo" <omjaroo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Seems to me that life is simply a never ending process of trying not to
> die...
>
> Bottom line - I don't see a whole lot of value in it.
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> What do you think?
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wrong question. go out and play.
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| Sevenhundred Elves 2006-08-01, 2:28 am |
| omjaroo wrote:
> Seems to me that life is simply a never ending process of trying not to
> die...
>
> Bottom line - I don't see a whole lot of value in it.
>
> What do you think?
You can do lots of stuff when you are alive. A corpse is of no use to
anyone. There are millions of different ways of trying not to die, some
really interesting and funny. One of the best ways is also one of those
you are best at - yoga!
Also remember that you are much loved in this group. That makes your
life valuable to us, at least.
S.
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| howdydave 2006-08-01, 2:28 am |
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Sevenhundred Elves wrote:
> omjaroo wrote:
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> You can do lots of stuff when you are alive. A corpse is of no use to
> anyone. There are millions of different ways of trying not to die, some
> really interesting and funny. One of the best ways is also one of those
> you are best at - yoga!
>
> Also remember that you are much loved in this group. That makes your
> life valuable to us, at least.
>
> S.
Howdy Jared!
I'm not sure life is FOR anything!
That would set me up as seeking objectives.
Life IS. Period!
What it's for and what you do with it is all
a matter of superimposition... isn't it???
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| Krissy 2006-08-14, 4:27 pm |
| Applause to Stu and Richard,
I felt delighted reading your meaning about life......thanks a lot.
Reg,
Hari.
howdydave wrote:
> Sevenhundred Elves wrote:
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> Howdy Jared!
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> I'm not sure life is FOR anything!
>
> That would set me up as seeking objectives.
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> Life IS. Period!
>
> What it's for and what you do with it is all
> a matter of superimposition... isn't it???
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| omjaroo 2006-08-16, 2:28 am |
| Stu,
Thanks for your response. It would be difficult at this point to
communicate what it meant to me. I apologize for the delay in my
response. I'm treading on uncharted ground. I haven't been able to
respond until now.
Stu wrote:
> On 2006-07-30 19:45:27 -0700, "omjaroo" <omjaroo@yahoo.com> said:
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> Dark night of the soul Jared?
Yes and no...
> Sounds like your in a life crisis thats pulling you down to survival
> mode. Every decision locked into trying to get through it all. I hope
> things turn around for you and you begin to prosper from the
> experience.
I mentioned in a recent post, after a uncharacteristc outburst that I
was taking a much needed fast. I did fast for twelve days, in part
because there was no more money and no more food. I went down and
applied for some assistance so now there is food.
> The question of life's value is absurd. Its like looking for causes.
> Being, life, existance, now, just is. No time, no space, no usenet
> missives, no drinks, or drugs, or tax collectors.
If its True then it can be understood. This is the credo of a Jnani.
> Make the best of the moment. Contact it. There is an intelligence to
> the moment that is available for you. Doesn't really have value or any
> other noun to pin down the spontaneous creative intelligence of it all.
This is an especially afirming suggestion, thank-you.
> Embrace the pain and then let it go.
> Hope that doesn't come off as trite, but I am concerned.
Not trite at all. I'm concerned also. But in the grand sceme of things,
I don't think either of us has any reason to be :-)
Thanks
> ~Stu
Jared
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| omjaroo 2006-08-16, 2:28 am |
| Richard,
Thanks for your response.
> Life's for enjoying and living? For applying yourself to. Can be difficult
> at times, and I don't know if the above is an "interesting question for
> the group" or a real "I'm not very happy at the moment".
Both.
> I don't think I've ever been afraid of death.
It's the only fear I have.
>I've had cancer twice and
> was very afraid of the process of dieing, either being in great pain or
> too drugged up and immobile to do anything, but not death itself. At
> my age, for my kind of cancer, it seemed very much a case of applying
> harsher and harsher treatment until you were cured or either the cancer
> or treatment killed you. I have lost freinds to this and thinking of them
> even now is hard. Working together on the wards you can make it easier
> for everyone involved, including yourself, sharing knowledge and almost
> competing to have as few effects from the treatment as possible. We all
> helped eachother.
Thank you. You have no idea how much this sharing meant to me.
> Something so much in yoga philosophy is the idea of focusing on the now
> and applying yourself to make the best of whatever situation you are in.
Absolutely.
> Even in the worse situation you can hopefuly do something good and be a
> benefit to those around you, if even just supporting those in a similar
> situation. You can be a positive influence in society. This influence
> seems to feed back into your life.
Yes in recovery circles they say that everyone is good for something
even if its to provide an example of what not to do :-)
> I believe it was you who posted the information about the french
> businessman who rather than stepping out of the world to join an ashram
> has done so much with his business for the benefit of his community.
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> May not have answered your question. If you're a scientist you could
> say that "the aim of life is to reproduce" ;) Wasn't it also you who
> replied to my comment on chakra that this is a difference between humans
> and animals?
Yes it was.
> I think you are having a positive influence in your way.
Thanks for the kind words, this is good to hear!
Jared
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> - Richard
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> (Currently listening to Snatam Kaur - "Hariaa (Strength)" - very uplifting
> music, though track 5 (Suni-ai (Listening)) isn't one to listen to when
> thinking of lost friends. They say yoga can bring these kinds of things
> to the surface and help you to deal with them. I was going to recommend
> that piece of music for savassana tonight.)
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> --
> _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Richard Corfield <Richard.Corfield@gmail.com>
> _/ _/ _/ _/
> _/_/ _/ _/ Time is a one way street,
> _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ except in the Twighlight Zone
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| omjaroo 2006-08-16, 2:28 am |
| Sharath,
My apology for the delay in my response.
hrwire@gmail.com wrote:
> Jared.........you have a pretty philosophical outlook towards
> life......
Thanks for saying so. Its a yoga thing :-)
> I'd like to include this quote here by Swami Vivekananda "This life is
> short, the vanities of the world are transient, but they alone live who
> live for others, the rest are more dead than alive. "
I have that book and quote not 6 inchs from me. Thanks for the
reminder!
> The maha-mrityunjay mantra (mrityu=death) is also helpful if you can
> master it.
I don't know this reference. Can you provide me a link?
Thanks again
Jared
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| omjaroo 2006-08-16, 2:28 am |
| Thanks Puma,
You took my question at face value and I appreciate it.
Jared
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puma wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hi Jared,
>
> Life, to me, is a continuous searching. We are after a continuous
> aim...But the important point is to know what one is looking for, that
> is we have to be mindful on whatever we are searching...If we are not
> aware what we are after...Then life becomes boring...
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
>
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> omjaroo wrote:
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| omjaroo 2006-08-16, 2:28 am |
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> wrong question. go out and play.
??
Are you the same Anon I have had a number or good and meaningful
exchanges with over the years, here in alt.yoga?
Jared
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| omjaroo 2006-08-16, 2:28 am |
| 700E,
My apologies for the delay in responding :-(
> You can do lots of stuff when you are alive. A corpse is of no use to
> anyone. There are millions of different ways of trying not to die, some
> really interesting and funny. One of the best ways is also one of those
> you are best at - yoga!
This made me smile :-) And you are completely correct!
> Also remember that you are much loved in this group. That makes your
> life valuable to us, at least.
Thank you for saying so. It means a great deal to me...
> S.
Jared
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| omjaroo 2006-08-16, 2:28 am |
| Howdy Dave,
Thanks for the response and I'm sorry for the delay in my response.
For a jnani I am sailing into uncharted waters and as you know the only
guidance here is "internal".
> Howdy Jared!
>
> I'm not sure life is FOR anything!
>
> That would set me up as seeking objectives.
>
> Life IS. Period!
spoken like a true jnani!
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> What it's for and what you do with it is all
> a matter of superimposition... isn't it???
I had to look up the word "superimpostion" but of course you are
correct :-)
Thanks
Jared
o
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| Lawson English 2006-08-30, 9:33 pm |
| omjaroo wrote:
> Seems to me that life is simply a never ending process of trying not to
> die...
>
> Bottom line - I don't see a whole lot of value in it.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jared
> o
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> www.omjaroo.com
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Me ole guru, MMY, says "Life is for the expansion of happiness."
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| omjaroo 2006-08-31, 2:33 am |
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Lawson English wrote:
> omjaroo wrote:
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> Me ole guru, MMY, says "Life is for the expansion of happiness."
If happiness means the fulfillment of our desires, then I would
disagree :-(
If happiness means the acceptance of our divine nature, then I would
heartily agree :-)
Jared
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| Lawson English 2006-08-31, 4:36 pm |
| omjaroo wrote:
> Lawson English wrote:
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> If happiness means the fulfillment of our desires, then I would
> disagree :-(
> If happiness means the acceptance of our divine nature, then I would
> heartily agree :-)
>
> Jared
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It's a bit of both: the ability to change what we can, the ability to
accept what we can't change, and the wisdom to know the difference...
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| hbkta@aol.com 2006-08-31, 9:35 pm |
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Lawson English wrote:
> omjaroo wrote:
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> It's a bit of both: the ability to change what we can, the ability to
> accept what we can't change, and the wisdom to know the difference...
ahh serenity, without which happiness is but fleeting agitation
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