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| NYC XYZ 2006-04-27, 6:28 pm |
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So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
"routine"?
Just curious.
Also, that AirZound air horn really sucks for $32. I mean, it blows
all right, but it sucks 'cause the plastic is very fragile. Plastic
pen-quality plastic. Terrible! Can't believe they make this rip-off
in Canada.
NYC XYZ wrote:
> You should also remember, then, that I'd noted that I'd done messenging
> for only half a summer.
>
> When I mention my status as a former messenger, I don't mean to say
> that I was all up on "bike culture" (or weed, for that matter -- LOL!),
> but that I rode like one (hehe).
>
> So, no, I didn't even know air shocks had special air shock pumps until
> last week.
>
> The other thing is, I'm just thinking aloud here. I'm just as liable
> to ask, mid-sentence, whether anyone stretches out before their ride,
> while going on about how lousy-fragile the AirZound air horn is.
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| John_Kane@tricolour.queensu.ca 2006-04-27, 6:28 pm |
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NYC XYZ wrote:
> So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
> "routine"?
>
> Just curious.
I tried it a couple of times but figured I was more likely to hurt
myself than do any good.
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
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| recycled-one 2006-04-27, 6:28 pm |
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"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> So does anyone actually stretch before riding?
Nope.
> How long? What's your
> "routine"?
Get on the bike and ride. Actually when I start out I stand on the pedals
and work my ankles to stretch the calf muscles. I also do this when I've
been riding for a while.
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| NYC XYZ 2006-04-27, 6:28 pm |
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John_Kane@tricolour.queensu.ca wrote:
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> I tried it a couple of times but figured I was more likely to hurt
> myself than do any good.
> John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
I'd laugh, but you might be onto something.
I mean, they'd already did a study that found no appreciable benefit
between stretching out before physically rigorous activity and not
stretching out before....
I've always wondered if my joints have suffered somehow by the
"extreme" stretching that I do!
I mean, I used to do a perfect split and able to touch the floor with
my chest!
I'm no longer as flexible (or as strong, as fast, etc. -- sigh!), but
when I stretch I've still got those habits of *really* stretching...
Ouch!
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| Edward Dolan 2006-04-27, 6:28 pm |
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"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
> "routine"?
>
> Just curious.
I don't think there is ever any reason to do any stretching exercises in
connection with cycling. You see runners doing this all the time, but I have
only seen a very few cyclists ever do this. They have always been women for
some reason.
> Also, that AirZound air horn really sucks for $32. I mean, it blows
> all right, but it sucks 'cause the plastic is very fragile. Plastic
> pen-quality plastic. Terrible! Can't believe they make this rip-off
> in Canada.
Yes, I got one of those horns myself many years ago. They seem to work for
awhile and then they go bonkers. It is one of those very expensive cycling
accessories that you can live without.
I like the way NYC posts to various newsgroups. He is going to save ARBR, an
otherwise good newsgroup which has fallen on hard times due to a criminal
vandal troll who murdered the group. I now think it is OK to post to many
newsgroups as long as you do it intelligently. The more input we can get
here on ARBR, the better.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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| Edward Dolan 2006-04-27, 6:28 pm |
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"Neil Brooks" <neil0502@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 27 Apr 2006 13:10:07 -0700, "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> Yeah ... on the sofa. I tend to stretch out until I gather up the
> motivation to ride ;-)
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>
> Fess up. What'd you do to it?
>
> My wife has a paralyzed vocal chord and can't yell (except,
> inexplicably, at me?). I bought her an AirZound and it's survived
> admirably despite drops, bumps, pumps, and minor bike vs. horn
> collisions (don't ask).
Neil, there was no reason for you to cut the newsgroups. NYC pretty much
knows what he is doing when he posts a message to multiple newsgroups.
Further, we here on ARBR appreciate getting more groups involved on our very
small group. Please note that the subject is not specific to any particular
newsgroup. Therefore, there is no reason why you should have limited your
message to RBM. Please show some consideration for other newsgroups which
may not be as well off as RBM for members.
A newsgroup can easily tolerate many messages which are off-topic. In fact,
if each and every message is on-topic to a particular newsgroup, it is a
death sentence. Everyone will die of boredom. I think roughly 25% of the
messages can be off-topic and that is actually a healthy thing for a
newsgroup. After all, we are all real living people here, not just ciphers
for messages about a particular narrow topic.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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| amakyonin 2006-04-27, 6:28 pm |
| You can boost the volume of the AZ by removing the "volume control"
do-hickey that constricts the tube. Pump to 100 psi and you should be
able to scare even yourself for a few weeks until your nervous system
learns to cope with the sound.
You need to be careful when removing the pump head not to twist the
valve too much or pull it out forcefully. I've lost one this way after
a fair amount of use. It would just honk for a brief period at the
highest pressure and stop making any sound even when there was plenty
of air left. I couldn't figure out the exact failure mechanism but it
probably had something to do with my fighting to remove the pump so
many times.
The plastic is PVC and is plenty tough for this application. I cut
apart my broken AZ with a Dremel to look at the guts and had a heck of
a time doing so.
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| amakyonin 2006-04-27, 6:28 pm |
| Correction. I think the plastic is polystyrene. Still tough enough
though.
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| Mark Leuck 2006-04-28, 1:27 am |
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"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
> "routine"?
>
> Just curious.
Never
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NYC XYZ wrote:
> So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
> "routine"?
>
> Just curious.
No, but I always stretch after a ride. There's no point stretching cold
muscles and it may do more harm than good. Sometimes I stop and stretch
about 20 minutes into a ride, about the time I start to feel properly
warmed up.
Laters,
Marz
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| NYC XYZ 2006-04-28, 1:27 am |
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recycled-one wrote:
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> Nope.
>
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> Get on the bike and ride. Actually when I start out I stand on the pedals
> and work my ankles to stretch the calf muscles. I also do this when I've
> been riding for a while.
Actually, that's what I do!
I'm going to start some light stretching from now on, though. Just
'cause it feels kinda nice.
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| NYC XYZ 2006-04-28, 1:27 am |
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Edward Dolan wrote:
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> I don't think there is ever any reason to do any stretching exercises in
> connection with cycling. You see runners doing this all the time, but I have
> only seen a very few cyclists ever do this. They have always been women for
> some reason.
Actually, I love to see women stretching. Too bad they tend to be the
skinny ones without much of a figure.
> Yes, I got one of those horns myself many years ago. They seem to work for
> awhile and then they go bonkers. It is one of those very expensive cycling
> accessories that you can live without.
True -- I keep forgetting to use it! Then when I do remember, I'm
fiddling to find the "button"...this, too, needs some practice!
> I like the way NYC posts to various newsgroups. He is going to save ARBR, an
> otherwise good newsgroup which has fallen on hard times due to a criminal
> vandal troll who murdered the group. I now think it is OK to post to many
> newsgroups as long as you do it intelligently. The more input we can get
> here on ARBR, the better.
Why, thank you. Now, if only we can get you to accept top-posting....
=D
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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| NYC XYZ 2006-04-28, 1:27 am |
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Ella wrote:
> Angry Black Man wrote:
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> A "yo momma", must be a recumbent rider?
LOL
I only wonder whether he got "a head" with or without affirmative
action!
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| landotter 2006-04-28, 1:27 am |
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NYC XYZ wrote:
> So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
> "routine"?
I stretch after I've ridden twenty minutes. It's much more effective
with warm muscles. ;)
Basic toe touches, some knee stretches to keep that IT band happy, and
a couple yoga poses to both stretch the hamstrings and lower back.
Spinning is a pleasure afterwards.
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| John_Kane@tricolour.queensu.ca 2006-04-28, 11:23 am |
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NYC XYZ wrote:
> John_Kane@tricolour.queensu.ca wrote:
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> I'd laugh, but you might be onto something.
>
> I mean, they'd already did a study that found no appreciable benefit
> between stretching out before physically rigorous activity and not
> stretching out before....
Exactly. I do think that some regular stretching exercises are good
for you. (Note to self: Find those photocopies of stretching exercises
 .
However I am not convinced that they are all that much use _before_
most physical activities that mere mortals engage in. As part of a
daily routine I suspect that they are a very good idea.
>
> I've always wondered if my joints have suffered somehow by the
> "extreme" stretching that I do!
>
> I mean, I used to do a perfect split and able to touch the floor with
> my chest!
>
> I'm no longer as flexible (or as strong, as fast, etc. -- sigh!), but
> when I stretch I've still got those habits of *really* stretching...
>
> Ouch!
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| NYC XYZ 2006-04-28, 11:23 am |
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amakyonin wrote:
> You can boost the volume of the AZ by removing the "volume control"
> do-hickey that constricts the tube.
Oh wow, you mean go beyond the manufacturer-rated 110 db???
> Pump to 100 psi and you should be
> able to scare even yourself for a few weeks until your nervous system
> learns to cope with the sound.
LOL...couple that with an HID light and I'll be ready for Halloween
this year!
> You need to be careful when removing the pump head not to twist the
> valve too much or pull it out forcefully. I've lost one this way after
> a fair amount of use. It would just honk for a brief period at the
> highest pressure and stop making any sound even when there was plenty
> of air left. I couldn't figure out the exact failure mechanism but it
> probably had something to do with my fighting to remove the pump so
> many times.
Thanks for the tip! Can't believe it's been so flimsy all these years
-- and Canadian, too! Thought they were supposed to be good guys....
> The plastic is PVC and is plenty tough for this application. I cut
> apart my broken AZ with a Dremel to look at the guts and had a heck of
> a time doing so.
Whatsa dremel?
My AZ (one of 'em -- the one on the 'bent) is busted where the red part
meets the gray; that is, where the "holder" meets the horn proper. Now
that's flimsy! The two are joined by a mere four little "ticks" that
protrude from the gray (male) to be grappled in place by the red
(female)...one of these quarter-centimeter ticks is gone due to the
'bent falling over...now I have to have string tying the horn to the
handle bar...WTF???
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| Steven M. O'Neill 2006-04-28, 11:23 am |
| landotter <landotter@gmail.com> wrote:
>Basic toe touches, some knee stretches to keep that IT band happy, and
>a couple yoga poses to both stretch the hamstrings and lower back.
Which yoga poses?
--
Steven O'Neill steveo@panix.com
Brooklyn, NY
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| hbkta@aol.com 2006-04-28, 11:23 am |
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Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
> landotter <landotter@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Which yoga poses?
>
> --
> Steven O'Neill steveo@panix.com
> Brooklyn, NY
This one will probably work well enough.
http://www.bradpriddy.com/yoga/parstt.htm
peruse the site and you will probably find others that suit you.
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| Steven M. O'Neill 2006-04-28, 11:23 am |
| <hbkta@aol.com> wrote:
>Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
>This one will probably work well enough.
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>http://www.bradpriddy.com/yoga/parstt.htm
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>peruse the site and you will probably find others that suit you.
Thanks. I'm interested in finding more about the relationship
between cycling and yoga, but I haven't been able to find much
on the web.
One thing is that cycling and yoga seem to work in opposite ways
on my hamstrings (which are generally very tight).
The other thing is that when I'm cycling, I try to think of my
body as being in downward dog (externally rotate upper arms,
draw shoulders down, etc). This feels right, but I wonder if
others find it useful.
--
Steven O'Neill steveo@panix.com
Brooklyn, NY
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| triangle pose is just wonderful for the lower back, hamstrings and
shoulders. It's the one I always do. Down dog, cobra, and bow are nice
if you've got the right surface. I also do a variation on tree pose
that stretches the glutes and is pretty good for balance, especially in
cleats--there's a name for it, but heck if I can remember. :-P
Stretching makes all the difference in my after ride knee pain.
Basically, if I stretch, I never get any. My legs feel all buttery and
efficient afterwards as well. Good stuff.
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| Marlene Blanshay 2006-04-29, 1:21 pm |
| maxo wrote:
> triangle pose is just wonderful for the lower back, hamstrings and
> shoulders. It's the one I always do. Down dog, cobra, and bow are nice
> if you've got the right surface. I also do a variation on tree pose
> that stretches the glutes and is pretty good for balance, especially in
> cleats--there's a name for it, but heck if I can remember. :-P
>
> Stretching makes all the difference in my after ride knee pain.
> Basically, if I stretch, I never get any. My legs feel all buttery and
> efficient afterwards as well. Good stuff.
>
i mostly do some yoga stretches for my neck and back, since i tend to
have a bit of trouble in that area. And sometimes, I'll stop and stretch
my back on my bike. You straddle the bike, turn around and twist,
holding the saddle and feel your lumbar spine CRACK! it feels great.
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| hseldin@comcast.net 2006-04-29, 6:23 pm |
| After riding many years on a hybrid bike then injuring my ITB band. I
strech out before and after every ride. My knees and legs go alot
farther that way. I'm 57 and now ride a Ran's stratus for 6 years with
over 6000 miles and no knee or leg pain.
I also own the Air Zound for 6yrs its great for stopping dogs in their
tracks, as well as the ocassional automobile.
NYC XYZ wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
> "routine"?
>
> Just curious.
>
> Also, that AirZound air horn really sucks for $32. I mean, it blows
> all right, but it sucks 'cause the plastic is very fragile. Plastic
> pen-quality plastic. Terrible! Can't believe they make this rip-off
> in Canada.
>
>
>
> NYC XYZ wrote:
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| Tom Keats 2006-04-29, 6:23 pm |
| In article <HAN4g.20033$b25.442450@wagner.videotron.net>,
Marlene Blanshay <blanshay@videotron.ca> writes:
> I'll stop and stretch
> my back on my bike. You straddle the bike, turn around and twist,
> holding the saddle and feel your lumbar spine CRACK! it feels great.
Oooooh, yeah. That's the ticket. Except, if I did it wrongly,
the turning around part might make my floating rib do weird stuff.
Ahhhhhhh. Sweet relief.
Sometimes just riding no-hands affords a nice comfort adjustment
on the fly.
cheers,
Tom
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| NYC XYZ wrote:
> So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
> "routine"?
No, never have.
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| William O'Hara 2006-04-30, 6:28 pm |
| On 30 Apr 2006, you wrote in rec.bicycles.soc:
> NYC XYZ wrote:
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> No, never have.
I've been wondering if it is better to ONLY strech AFTER the riding
especially in cold weather. I think the most important thing is to
keep the body warm.
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William O'Hara
www.n1ey.com
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| hbkta@aol.com 2006-04-30, 6:28 pm |
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Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
> <hbkta@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I'm interested in finding more about the relationship
> between cycling and yoga, but I haven't been able to find much
> on the web.
>
cant' help you there
although the bicycle is my primary mode of transportation between the
big snows,
I do not consider myself to be a "cyclist."
if you are practicing asanas regularily, no doubt you will figure it
out the relationship between cycling and yoga yourself.
> One thing is that cycling and yoga seem to work in opposite ways
> on my hamstrings (which are generally very tight).
>
yup
hamstrings get tight if you use your legs
and they get tight if you just sit around all day.
so it is a good idea to do something to stretch them.
> The other thing is that when I'm cycling, I try to think of my
> body as being in downward dog (externally rotate upper arms,
> draw shoulders down, etc). This feels right, but I wonder if
> others find it useful.
>
> --
> Steven O'Neill steveo@panix.com
> Brooklyn, NY
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| Edward Dolan 2006-04-30, 6:28 pm |
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<hbkta@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> cant' help you there
> although the bicycle is my primary mode of transportation between the
> big snows,
> I do not consider myself to be a "cyclist."
>
> if you are practicing asanas regularily, no doubt you will figure it
> out the relationship between cycling and yoga yourself.
>
>
> yup
> hamstrings get tight if you use your legs
> and they get tight if you just sit around all day.
> so it is a good idea to do something to stretch them.
>
Yoga is all a bunch of crapola. I can't believe that otherwise intelligent
folks would fall for it. We humans are designed for walking, not for
freaking yoga. If you want to stay fit and healthy, just go out for walks
for a minimum of 4 hours a day each and every day.
Hey, all you morons out there in cyber space, birds FLY and fishes SWIM and
we humans WALK. Christ, is this rocket science or what?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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| Archie A. 2006-05-03, 11:25 am |
| > So does anyone actually stretch before riding? How long? What's your
> "routine"?
Personally, I find it reduces the incidence of cramps and muscle
stiffening if I do at least a few leg stretches before a ride.
I just do hamstrings and static quad stretches before pulling off.
Archie A.
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| NYC XYZ 2006-05-03, 6:25 pm |
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I've been getting "superstitious" myself in this same regard...but I do
also find that stretching out warms me up, in and of itself.
William O'Hara wrote:
>
>
> I've been wondering if it is better to ONLY strech AFTER the riding
> especially in cold weather. I think the most important thing is to
> keep the body warm.
>
> --
> ---
> William O'Hara
> www.n1ey.com
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| NYC XYZ 2006-05-03, 6:25 pm |
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Archie A. wrote:
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>
> Personally, I find it reduces the incidence of cramps and muscle
> stiffening if I do at least a few leg stretches before a ride.
> I just do hamstrings and static quad stretches before pulling off.
> Archie A.
I don't know if it's helped me, but I do the same thing. Maybe I'm
expecting too much, or maybe I'm not doing it long enough, consistently
enough, or the right stretches, or the right stretches the right
way...but I feel as stiff as ever!
On my upright bike, that is...haven't had the chance yet to do any
extensive recumbent cycling....
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| Archie A 2006-05-08, 1:29 am |
| > Speaking of quads:
> http://www.santosha.com/asanas/nataraja.html
Thanks for the link
Unfortunately I cannot consider myself to be limber enough to even
contemplate trying any of those poses.
I am of the opinion that yoga stretching is for the enlightened ones
only... meaning that this requires a good degree of training and
discipline to carry out. And yours truly lacks on both counts.
Archie A.
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| recycled-one 2006-05-08, 1:29 am |
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"Archie A" <archie.apostol@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the link
> Unfortunately I cannot consider myself to be limber enough to even
> contemplate trying any of those poses.
Funny enough I do do something similar to that.... in a pool. I usually
take a stretching breather in the middle of my swim - more for the breather
than the stretching. One of my stretches is remarkably similar to that. I
don't think I could get the extension without water supporting me.
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| Raptor 2006-05-08, 1:29 am |
| Archie A wrote:
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> Thanks for the link
> Unfortunately I cannot consider myself to be limber enough to even
> contemplate trying any of those poses.
> I am of the opinion that yoga stretching is for the enlightened ones
> only... meaning that this requires a good degree of training and
> discipline to carry out. And yours truly lacks on both counts.
> Archie A.
Depends on where you go. If you go to one of the Walmart-style gyms and
do yoga there, there will be others who aren't flexible either, and the
poses won't be quite as advanced as at a yoga studio. Eventually, the
flexibility does start to come, and you feel overall in better control
of your body. "Eventually" means roughly four+ classes in four weeks,
--
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I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
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