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ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com

2006-03-22, 4:05 pm

The patric religions and ideologies envision a hierarchical worldview,
in which the levels (whether they be chakric, or corporate, or social,
or political) build on top of each other. Each succeeding level is held
in higher esteem than does the preceding, and each succeeding level is
held to be closer to the truth than the preceding.

The matric religions and ideologies envision a holistic worldview, in
which the totality of human beingness is held in similar esteem and
seen to be worthy of nurturing and existence.

I am of the belief that the two must combine, in a way that checks the
disagreeable features within each other and synergize to create the
best of all.

The hierarchical worldview is frequently visualized as a triangle, or a
pyramid. The holistic worldview is visualized as a circle, or a sphere.
The complete worldview I see as being visualized as a triangle within a
circle, or a pyramid within a sphere.

The hierarchical and holistic approaches are both ways of attaining at
divinity. Both the pyramid and the sphere are perfect, and
indestructible. It is impossible to destroy a sphere because there is
no space in it to invade it and shatter. It is impossible to destroy a
pyramid, because its sides are arranged in such a way as to make
destruction impossible.

Both are perfect; but both are also incomplete. Both likewise possess
capacity for right and capacity for wrong. The hierarchical model leads
to excellence, but also leads to cruelty and coldness and contempt for
what is held to be lower levels. The holistic model is encompassing,
but lacking the quality consideration ends up seeing all things as
equal and thus fails to lead to improvement and excellence. In
combining the two it becomes possible for the two models to check each
other in capacity for wrong and to synergize in a way that makes the
best of both.

>From the perspective of the center of the sphere, every place on the

sphere is equidistant. To the sphere, all things are equal in worth.
The triangle however increases in worth as it rises above the
foundation. The combination of the two arrives at a correct conclusion:
That all things are equal in inborn worth (sphere) but entirely
distinct in accomplished worth (triangle).

The sphere enfolds, nurtures and gives life to all levels and the
entirety of human beingness. The pyramid motivates and structures and
leads toward higher places. When the two combine, life is served; so is
improvement. The sphere prevents the pyramid from becoming cruel and
oppressive and instead imparts beauty and goodness and kindness toward
life at all levels. The pyramid prevents the sphere from becoming
ensnaring and static and therefore guides toward excellence.

Both the sphere and the triangle serve and take away freedom. The
sphere frees from cruelty and coldness but also is capable of being
devouring and entrapping. The triangle frees from ensnarement but also
is capable of stomping, controlling and brutality. The freedom is
served, as it does in the government of checks and balances, when the
two levels must compete with each other and check each other's wrong,
while combining at what is right to achieve a greater state than each
is capable of doing.

The two levels of attaining divinity therefore must both work together
and work to check each other. The holistic gives life and goodwill to
all and makes the process beautiful rather than cruel and soulless. The
hierarchical motivates toward self-improvement and guides people to
make the most of themselves and the most of all. Like Quaballistic
pillar of mildness and pillar of severity, the sphere and the pyramid
work together to make the most of human existence: To make the most of
human experience through the the sphere's awareness and goodwill and
kindness, and to make the most of humankind through the pyramid's
rigor, motivation and demand.

In combining the sphere and the pyramid, are combined two great
approaches to wisdom. Both, I repeat, being perfect; but both being in
and of themselves incomplete. The two complete each other and check
each other's capacity for wrong, while together combining to do what
each is in of itself incapable of doing.

It is held in holistic approach that the heart is a way toward
knowledge and wisdom - that, being created in divine image, it
contains in itself blueprint for truth. It is held in hierarchical
approach that the mind is a way toward knowledge and wisdom. Both are
capable of knowledge and wisdom; but they know and are wise in
different ways. The way at which the mind and the heart both attain at
the same truth, is to be seen as the consummation. In the interim is
possible wrong in both cases; and in checking each other in doing
wrong, while guiding each other to consummation, both the holistic and
the hierarchical reduce the wrong done while improving each other and
helping each other be its best and make the most of life.

The holistic and the hierarchical, the heart and the mind, like female
and male, are of equal truth and of equal value. They synthesize to
make the most of each other and most of self and to make likewise what
has not existed before. The holistic nourishes and heals and
replenishes; the hierarchical motivates and guides. When the two come
together in mutual understanding, is achieved a state of affairs that's
both kind and excellent. And as they check and balance each other, what
is eliminated is the wrong in each other, while allowing the right in
each other to blossom and achieve more magnificent state of affairs
than one of which either is capable.

The result of this combination is complete humanity and complete human
experience, where life is made best it can be as are the living. People
are motivated to be their best; they are also given (and give) goodwill
and love and nourishment toward that purpose. The mind is improved; so
is the heart. And the mind and the heart, both being made their most
and both as such imparting of their fruits to the living, work together
to make the most of human experience, both for humanity and for each
human being.

Checking each other in each other's capacity for wrong, and synergizing
in where they are right, the hierarchical and the holistic express and
give life to and empower and challenge and vitalize the totality of
human beingness - leading toward most of human existence and most of
humankind. Through its own efforts, humanity becomes its best and makes
the most of human experience, bringing together both the holistic love
and the hierarchical excellence to make life the most it can be. Love
is served; so is improvement. And the result is the best of all worlds.

In holistic and hierarchical working together in synthesis, or synergy
within the framework of checks and balances, is achieved the optimal
state of humanity and the optimal state of life.

Ilya Shambat.

Don H

2006-03-22, 4:05 pm

<ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1142253720.582458.182580@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> The patric religions and ideologies envision a hierarchical worldview,
> in which the levels (whether they be chakric, or corporate, or social,
> or political) build on top of each other. Each succeeding level is held
> in higher esteem than does the preceding, and each succeeding level is
> held to be closer to the truth than the preceding.
>
> The matric religions and ideologies envision a holistic worldview, in
> which the totality of human beingness is held in similar esteem and
> seen to be worthy of nurturing and existence.
>
> I am of the belief that the two must combine, in a way that checks the
> disagreeable features within each other and synergize to create the
> best of all.
>
> The hierarchical worldview is frequently visualized as a triangle, or a
> pyramid. The holistic worldview is visualized as a circle, or a sphere.
> The complete worldview I see as being visualized as a triangle within a
> circle, or a pyramid within a sphere.
>
> The hierarchical and holistic approaches are both ways of attaining at
> divinity. Both the pyramid and the sphere are perfect, and
> indestructible. It is impossible to destroy a sphere because there is
> no space in it to invade it and shatter. It is impossible to destroy a
> pyramid, because its sides are arranged in such a way as to make
> destruction impossible.
>
> Both are perfect; but both are also incomplete. Both likewise possess
> capacity for right and capacity for wrong. The hierarchical model leads
> to excellence, but also leads to cruelty and coldness and contempt for
> what is held to be lower levels. The holistic model is encompassing,
> but lacking the quality consideration ends up seeing all things as
> equal and thus fails to lead to improvement and excellence. In
> combining the two it becomes possible for the two models to check each
> other in capacity for wrong and to synergize in a way that makes the
> best of both.
>
> sphere is equidistant. To the sphere, all things are equal in worth.
> The triangle however increases in worth as it rises above the
> foundation. The combination of the two arrives at a correct conclusion:
> That all things are equal in inborn worth (sphere) but entirely
> distinct in accomplished worth (triangle).
>
> The sphere enfolds, nurtures and gives life to all levels and the
> entirety of human beingness. The pyramid motivates and structures and
> leads toward higher places. When the two combine, life is served; so is
> improvement. The sphere prevents the pyramid from becoming cruel and
> oppressive and instead imparts beauty and goodness and kindness toward
> life at all levels. The pyramid prevents the sphere from becoming
> ensnaring and static and therefore guides toward excellence.
>
> Both the sphere and the triangle serve and take away freedom. The
> sphere frees from cruelty and coldness but also is capable of being
> devouring and entrapping. The triangle frees from ensnarement but also
> is capable of stomping, controlling and brutality. The freedom is
> served, as it does in the government of checks and balances, when the
> two levels must compete with each other and check each other's wrong,
> while combining at what is right to achieve a greater state than each
> is capable of doing.
>
> The two levels of attaining divinity therefore must both work together
> and work to check each other. The holistic gives life and goodwill to
> all and makes the process beautiful rather than cruel and soulless. The
> hierarchical motivates toward self-improvement and guides people to
> make the most of themselves and the most of all. Like Quaballistic
> pillar of mildness and pillar of severity, the sphere and the pyramid
> work together to make the most of human existence: To make the most of
> human experience through the the sphere's awareness and goodwill and
> kindness, and to make the most of humankind through the pyramid's
> rigor, motivation and demand.
>
> In combining the sphere and the pyramid, are combined two great
> approaches to wisdom. Both, I repeat, being perfect; but both being in
> and of themselves incomplete. The two complete each other and check
> each other's capacity for wrong, while together combining to do what
> each is in of itself incapable of doing.
>
> It is held in holistic approach that the heart is a way toward
> knowledge and wisdom - that, being created in divine image, it
> contains in itself blueprint for truth. It is held in hierarchical
> approach that the mind is a way toward knowledge and wisdom. Both are
> capable of knowledge and wisdom; but they know and are wise in
> different ways. The way at which the mind and the heart both attain at
> the same truth, is to be seen as the consummation. In the interim is
> possible wrong in both cases; and in checking each other in doing
> wrong, while guiding each other to consummation, both the holistic and
> the hierarchical reduce the wrong done while improving each other and
> helping each other be its best and make the most of life.
>
> The holistic and the hierarchical, the heart and the mind, like female
> and male, are of equal truth and of equal value. They synthesize to
> make the most of each other and most of self and to make likewise what
> has not existed before. The holistic nourishes and heals and
> replenishes; the hierarchical motivates and guides. When the two come
> together in mutual understanding, is achieved a state of affairs that's
> both kind and excellent. And as they check and balance each other, what
> is eliminated is the wrong in each other, while allowing the right in
> each other to blossom and achieve more magnificent state of affairs
> than one of which either is capable.
>
> The result of this combination is complete humanity and complete human
> experience, where life is made best it can be as are the living. People
> are motivated to be their best; they are also given (and give) goodwill
> and love and nourishment toward that purpose. The mind is improved; so
> is the heart. And the mind and the heart, both being made their most
> and both as such imparting of their fruits to the living, work together
> to make the most of human experience, both for humanity and for each
> human being.
>
> Checking each other in each other's capacity for wrong, and synergizing
> in where they are right, the hierarchical and the holistic express and
> give life to and empower and challenge and vitalize the totality of
> human beingness - leading toward most of human existence and most of
> humankind. Through its own efforts, humanity becomes its best and makes
> the most of human experience, bringing together both the holistic love
> and the hierarchical excellence to make life the most it can be. Love
> is served; so is improvement. And the result is the best of all worlds.
>
> In holistic and hierarchical working together in synthesis, or synergy
> within the framework of checks and balances, is achieved the optimal
> state of humanity and the optimal state of life.
>
> Ilya Shambat.
>

# Translated into political terms there are the elitists (the Right) and the
egalitarians (the Left). The elitists belief in rank, wealth, and
privilege; the egalitarians in comradeship, socialism, and equality.
In any society there is a tendency for some persons to "rise to the top";
yet this should start from equality of opportunity, and shouldn't be
perpetuated by hereditary.
Democracy is based on egalitarianism, and it can be argued that democracy
should replace all forms of elitism, except that derived from merit.
Free Speech, or freedom of opinion, is a necessary adjunct of democracy,
as from such freedom comes sensible decisions. But opinion should be based
on fact; the evidence of science, and testimony from empirical
sense-perception.
The Indoctrination of the Young is an adverse influence, as compared with
genuine Education; doctrines can be taught, but they must be subject to
scrutiny, query, and amendment - if necessary.


seth brunton

2006-03-22, 4:05 pm

i love whats being said here
heres a thought
is a pyramid as strong when you apply the same pressure from
base to point as
from point to base
i have a preferance towards the negative
but then we're just being symbolic and representative
i presume
i guess im just trying to get involved

Brian Fletcher

2006-03-22, 4:05 pm


<ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1142253720.582458.182580@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> The patric religions and ideologies envision a hierarchical worldview,
> in which the levels (whether they be chakric, or corporate, or social,
> or political) build on top of each other. Each succeeding level is held
> in higher esteem than does the preceding, and each succeeding level is
> held to be closer to the truth than the preceding.



SNIP
>
> In holistic and hierarchical working together in synthesis, or synergy
> within the framework of checks and balances, is achieved the optimal
> state of humanity and the optimal state of life.
>
> Ilya Shambat.
>


Well done Ilya.

Now does that satisfy your romantic machinations ?


BOfL


ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com

2006-03-22, 4:05 pm


Brian Fletcher wrote:
> <ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1142253720.582458.182580@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> SNIP
>
> Well done Ilya.


Thanks.

> Now does that satisfy your romantic machinations ?


My romantic machinations will be satisfied when America once again
rediscovers the good in beauty in all things.

Brian Fletcher

2006-03-22, 4:05 pm


<ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Brian Fletcher wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> My romantic machinations will be satisfied when America once again
> rediscovers the good in beauty in all things.


:-(

BOfL


Sean

2006-03-22, 4:05 pm


"Brian Fletcher" <brianf88@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:wbzRf.6486$dy4.354@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> <ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1142301357.774137.250590@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>
> :-(
>
> BOfL
>


"Cheer up Bwian, when ur chewing on life's gwissle, don't gwumble, gwive a
whistle, and evewything will work out for the best." ;-)


Brian Fletcher

2006-03-22, 4:05 pm


"Sean" <santimvah_notspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Brian Fletcher" <brianf88@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:wbzRf.6486$dy4.354@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Cheer up Bwian, when ur chewing on life's gwissle, don't gwumble, gwive a
> whistle, and evewything will work out for the best." ;-)


.....aaaaaaand....etc etc :-)


Ilya could do with a good dose of juniper berry juice dont you think?

BOfL


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