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Yajna means 'oblation', a magical sacrifice
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| willytex@yahoo.com 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| According to the Upanishads there's no higher knowledge than
transcendental experience in which the sadhak performs the yajna of the
sacrificing of mental thought. Shakya the Muni and Maharishi Patanjali
agree with this.
Yajna means 'oblation', a magical sacrifice - the devine sacrifice of
the cosmic Purusha - the model for all sacrifices. The purpose of the
sacrifice was to ensure fertility and the well-being of the individual,
his family and domestic animals, and ultimately the whole community as
enumerated in the Grhya-sutras.
In fact, Sri Buddha blew to bits the presumed efficacy of the burnt
offerings of the Vedic Brahmins! It is a fact, needing no further
explanation, that magical sacrifices, including all cermonial
performances and shows, tantric or Vedic, are totally ineffective and
useless against birth and death and rebirth. The practice of deep
meditation that is transcendental is the only means of aquiring merit
in this life - sacrifice your own thoughts man!
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| omjaroo 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| And this information is valuable to me because...?
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| Bhairitu 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| willytex@yahoo.com wrote:
> According to the Upanishads there's no higher knowledge than
> transcendental experience in which the sadhak performs the yajna of the
> sacrificing of mental thought. Shakya the Muni and Maharishi Patanjali
> agree with this.
>
> Yajna means 'oblation', a magical sacrifice - the devine sacrifice of
> the cosmic Purusha - the model for all sacrifices. The purpose of the
> sacrifice was to ensure fertility and the well-being of the individual,
> his family and domestic animals, and ultimately the whole community as
> enumerated in the Grhya-sutras.
>
> In fact, Sri Buddha blew to bits the presumed efficacy of the burnt
> offerings of the Vedic Brahmins! It is a fact, needing no further
> explanation, that magical sacrifices, including all cermonial
> performances and shows, tantric or Vedic, are totally ineffective and
> useless against birth and death and rebirth. The practice of deep
> meditation that is transcendental is the only means of aquiring merit
> in this life - sacrifice your own thoughts man!
>
Confirmation bias refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one
tends to notice and to look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to
ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts
one's beliefs.
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| John Manning 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| Bhairitu wrote:
> willytex@yahoo.com wrote:
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> Confirmation bias refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one
> tends to notice and to look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to
> ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts
> one's beliefs.
The psycho troll, Willytex, resorts to using `another` web name. LOL!
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| willytex@yahoo.com 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| omjaroo wrote:
> And this information is valuable to me because...?
>
So, you can achieve mental activity cessation and be free? The whole
purpose of yoga is to be free of the three fetters. Yajna means
'oblation', a magical sacrifice, but it is a fact that you won't be
able to escape death and rebirth by observing religious shows or
attending ceremonial performances. Sacrifice your own thoughts, Jared!
Nameste
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental,alt.meditation,alt.yoga
From: omjaroo
Date: Sat, May 1 2004 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: Mental activity cessation is meditation
willytex@texas.net wrote:
> According to the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali: "Yoga is mental
> activity cessation" (Book One V. 2).
Yes... And so what? Have you ever done this? Why are you telling me
this? How does your quote correlate to my version (I.K.Taimini) or
any other version of Patanjali=B9s sutras? What is your point? Why
are you cross-posting? Do you have anything to say for yourself?
Namaste
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| willytex@yahoo.com 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| Bhairitu wrote:
> Confirmation bias refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one
> tends to notice and to look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to
> ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts
> one's beliefs.
>
Newsgroups: alt.yoga
From: JCarr
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:40:52 GMT
Local: Mediation for removing your ego?
Does anyone know of specific mediation techniques for the purpose of
removing the ego. I am have trouble finding information specific to
this.
Newsgroups: alt.yoga
From: omjaram
Date: Sun, Jun 12 2005 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: Mediation for removing your ego?
Mahasamadhi...Quite advanced though :-)
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| willytex@yahoo.com 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| John Manning wrote:
> The psycho troll, Willytex, resorts to using `another` web name. LOL!
>
From: John Manning
Subject: TM is a cult
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 2001-09-25 20:17:48 PST
I think Maharishi saved his XXX after threats of exposure of his sexual
pecadillos. His empire, to me today, is not much different than any
other corporate entity. It certainly is NOT 'heaven on earth' and it is
very far removed from anything akin to Divinity.
I refuse to hear 'justification' for his bullshit. Bullshit is
bullshit. This is 'guru' bullshit. To me, it is bullshit of the highest
order. (It has the worst stench when it claims Divinity and is NOT.)
I fully expect proponents of TM and Maharishi to respond. Don't bother.
I, myself, was brainwashed in this shit. I know how it works on both
sides.
John Manning
"Hayam dukam anagatam" - The shit that has not yet landed on you is
worth avoiding. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
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| omjaroo 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| > omjaroo wrote:
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> So, you can achieve mental activity cessation and be free?
> The whole purpose of yoga is to be free of the three
> fetters. Yajna means 'oblation', a magical sacrifice, but
> it is a fact that you won't be able to escape death and
> rebirth by observing religious shows or attending
> ceremonial performances.
I would say that one can not "earn" deliverance but can only "accept"
the Truth.
> Sacrifice your own thoughts,
> Jared!
Gladly... They're all mostly garbage anyway. But somehow God is in
everyone of them. So do I sacrafice or celibrate?
> alt.meditation.transcendental,alt.meditation,alt.yoga From:
> omjaroo Date: Sat, May 1 2004 10:37 pm Subject: Re: Mental
> activity cessation is meditation
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> willy...@texas.net wrote:
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> Yes... And so what? Have you ever done this? Why are you
> telling me this? How does your quote correlate to my
> version (I.K.Taimini) or any other version of Patanjali=B9s
> sutras? What is your point? Why are you cross-posting? Do
> you have anything to say for yourself? Namaste
Interesting that should recall (and quote) a prior response I made to
one of your posts. That to me is a good thing :-) I means you are
paying attention and it requires you to respond to me personaly rather
then quoting me someone else's words. Except that I don't think
anything has changed and I still have the same questions about what and
why you post. I value what you have to say about your process a great
deal more then any recitations by long dead and distant pontiffs.
I'd be tremedously interested in who you are, what you think and where
you have been, where you are going and where you are.=20
Jared
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| willytex@yahoo.com 2006-02-25, 9:31 pm |
| omjaroo wrote:
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> I would say that one can not "earn" deliverance but can only "accept"
> the Truth.
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> Gladly... They're all mostly garbage anyway. But somehow God is in
> everyone of them. So do I sacrafice or celibrate?
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>
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That's what people want - to be free?
Yes, on a twice daily basis.
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To start a conversation and clear up a few points?
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What does your version say?
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That yoga is mental activity cessation?
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You're cross-posting over here - I've been posting to <alt.yoga> for
years.
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Attendance at ceremonial shows and the offering of burnt offerings at
magic rituals will not insure an individual from the round of
transmigration?
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> Interesting that should recall (and quote) a prior response I made to
> one of your posts. That to me is a good thing :-) I means you are
> paying attention and it requires you to respond to me personaly rather
> then quoting me someone else's words. Except that I don't think
> anything has changed and I still have the same questions about what and
> why you post. I value what you have to say about your process a great
> deal more then any recitations by long dead and distant pontiffs.
>
> I'd be tremedously interested in who you are, what you think and where
> you have been, where you are going and where you are.
>
> Jared
>
All you have to do is go to Google Groups and type in IF <willytex>
THEN <yoga> OR <meditation>. It's that simple!
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