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puma

2005-09-24, 2:25 pm

Hi everyone,

I see that some of you have a hard time to understand U.L.

Universal Law is not for a punisment.
Universal Law has nothing to do with GOD or GODS.
When you put WHEAT SEEDS you will get WHEAT.
This has nothing to do with punishment...

If you help somebody,and some other people will certainly help you,not
the same person though....

Whatever you do , you will get the same...

If you still not get it ,forget it!

Mr. Walker Bush is the president of the USA.So he represents USA.
If some of you think that this action in NEW ORLEANS is a punishment,it
is your view,not U.L.s`

If some of you still can not realize this basic principle,he/she should
forget it. It indicates that he/she is not on the right mood for
thetime being,it is possible to realize it later someday...When he/she
himself/herself experiences.

With compassion,

Puma

Paul H

2005-09-24, 2:25 pm


> Mr. Walker Bush is the president of the USA.So he represents USA.
> If some of you think that this action in NEW ORLEANS is a punishment,it
> is your view,not U.L.s`


He is also a representative of his family. He has ordered the killing of the
wives and children of Iraqis, does that mean his wife and Children will soon
die?

Will his domestic policies have the same adverse effect on his health,
education and wealth?



> If some of you still can not realize this basic principle,he/she should
> forget it. It indicates that he/she is not on the right mood for
> thetime being,it is possible to realize it later someday...When he/she
> himself/herself experiences.


Don't be so patronising, if you think we should forget it why do you
continue to post on the subject?

Paul


puma

2005-09-24, 2:25 pm

Hi Paul,

I know that you want a substantial explanation ...His family and his
children are his NATION,every individual US citizen. I am talking about
a PRESIDENT of ANY COUNTRY...Doesn`t this mean any sense to you? This
is a substantial event.

If you are very interested with his personal life,it has no value to
discuss at all!

I see that you are like a child at elementary school,because your
reasoning has a hard time in realizing CAUSE and RESULT relation...

I am sure that one day,when you, yourself experience a personal
affair,than you will remember me. Please do not take this as a
patronage, only and kindly accept myself as a friend from a long long
distance.

With compassion,

Puma

Paul H

2005-09-24, 2:25 pm


"puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
news:1126211139.158044.266200@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Paul,
>
> I know that you want a substantial explanation ...His family and his
> children are his NATION,every individual US citizen. I am talking about
> a PRESIDENT of ANY COUNTRY...Doesn`t this mean any sense to you? This
> is a substantial event.
>
> If you are very interested with his personal life,it has no value to
> discuss at all!
>
> I see that you are like a child at elementary school,because your
> reasoning has a hard time in realizing CAUSE and RESULT relation...
>
> I am sure that one day,when you, yourself experience a personal
> affair,than you will remember me. Please do not take this as a
> patronage,


No not at all, how could calling me a child be seen as patronising? LOL


only and kindly accept myself as a friend from a long long
> distance.
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma


Do you honestly believe that Katrina came into existence because of Bushes
foreign policy?

What do you think will hit England? A plague of Locusts?

Paul


puma

2005-09-24, 2:25 pm

Paul H wrote:
> "puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
> news:1126211139.158044.266200@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> No not at all, how could calling me a child be seen as patronising? LOL
>
>
> only and kindly accept myself as a friend from a long long
===========================================================

Hi Paul,

Dear friend, please kindly accept my song U.L.as a song not
believed,not realized,just a song,its thema,its melody might be not
sustantial,but it still leaves deep marks under our consciousness...And
such a song interrogates
the results we always meet.Causes us to check and be aware of what we
are doing!

Take care,

Puma[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Do you honestly believe that Katrina came into existence because of Bushes
> foreign policy?
>
> What do you think will hit England? A plague of Locusts?
>
> Paul


Paul H

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm


> Hi Paul,
>
> Dear friend, please kindly accept my song U.L.as a song not
> believed,not realized,just a song,its thema,its melody might be not
> sustantial,but it still leaves deep marks under our consciousness...And
> such a song interrogates
> the results we always meet.Causes us to check and be aware of what we
> are doing!
>
> Take care,
>
> Puma



That's cleared that up then.


lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Dear Puma
I read your following posts but before I read them I 've already
understood your point.
You said :
Universal Law is not for a punisment.
Universal Law has nothing to do with GOD or GODS.
When you put WHEAT SEEDS you will get WHEAT.
This has nothing to do with punishment...

Let me then ask you this question :
Can you say what you just write infront of millions of people , if you
where a priminister of a country ?

As I know some poeple are really proffessional about singing a SONG
which has no melody or has melody but no good for some .
And some people really proffessional to use UL for lying ...And some
really manipulates...

Shall we talk about lie,gossip and being a person and private life ?
And shall we talk about fooling people ?
Yes you are right about this sentences :
When you put WHEAT SEEDS you will get WHEAT.
This has nothing to do with punishment...
But what if you are not the one who he/she put the seads.
Have you ever been fooled ?

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Sometimes its better to write direct dear puma.Sometimes what happens
can be a song but not your song .

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Dear Puma.
You say :
Universal Law is not for a punisment.
Universal Law has nothing to do with GOD or GODS.
When you put WHEAT SEEDS you will get WHEAT.
This has nothing to do with punishment...


If you help somebody,and some other people will certainly help you,not
the same person though....

Thats really positive way of look.
I wish it would be that way always.
But can you really say that infront of millions of people on TV ?
If you were a priminister for example ?
Not to the 6 years 7 years of children but to the older ones ?
I do not think so.

Some people uses this UL for every kind of belief system.
Yes true if you you put WHEAT SEEDS you will get WHEAT
But what if this seads werent a wheat sead ? and it was lie ?
Shall we talk about lie ?

puma

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Hi Lilashi,

It is fortunate that I am not a Prime Minister...My seeds are always
sweet-basil, I love them and every july I try to sow these seeds,
in recent years I used to sow big leaf Spanish basils. But this year I
could not find any seeds of them. So I bought only sweet basils all
ready grown . On my window they are awaiting my care...

Do you like these basils Lilashi?

With compassion,

Puma

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Obviously I like all the plants puma.But I am not really proffessional
about plants.Which I can eat , which I can just watch , or which I can
smell.Or let me say which is good for meals.
Let me correct my mistake of PRIME MINISTER
I wrote priminister

And back to your window and your plants , I can only recommend you a
good luck.

puma

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm


My dear Lilashi,

No need to be a professional about plants, as they are lovely
creatures...And no need to correct your mistake regarding spelling of
an English word...Because in my eyes you never make any mistake...O.K.!

You are a wonderful person.

With compassion,

Puma

lilashi wrote:
> Obviously I like all the plants puma.But I am not really proffessional
> about plants.Which I can eat , which I can just watch , or which I can
> smell.Or let me say which is good for meals.
> Let me correct my mistake of PRIME MINISTER
> I wrote priminister
>
> And back to your window and your plants , I can only recommend you a
> good luck.


lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Dear Puma ,
Why do you change the subject?
When you change or end the subject that way even if you say 'you are
a wonderful person OK!' doesn mean anything. It only makes me look at
the screen with a stupid smile on my face...
May you say everything has an individual self...As person as animal
as plant itself...And when we use such words as UNIVERSAL LAW or when
we describe it most of the people misunderstands it.
In my opinion there is no LAW OF THE UNIVERSE...We people and animals
and plants all the living things are creating it. And what we create
can be our life or our death. So thats all I can say and I can only
recommend politicians not to act as an UNIVERSAL LAWYERS and UNIVERSAL
JUDGES...
The reason of me writting about politicians are based on your
previous posts Puma. Thank you


puma yazdi:[vbcol=seagreen]
> My dear Lilashi,
>
> No need to be a professional about plants, as they are lovely
> creatures...And no need to correct your mistake regarding spelling of
> an English word...Because in my eyes you never make any mistake...O.K.!
>
> You are a wonderful person.
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
>
> lilashi wrote:

puma

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm


lilashi wrote:
> Dear Puma ,
> Why do you change the subject?
> When you change or end the subject that way even if you say 'you are
> a wonderful person OK!' doesn mean anything. It only makes me look at
> the screen with a stupid smile on my face...
> May you say everything has an individual self...As person as animal
> as plant itself...And when we use such words as UNIVERSAL LAW or when
> we describe it most of the people misunderstands it.
> In my opinion there is no LAW OF THE UNIVERSE...We people and animals
> and plants all the living things are creating it. And what we create
> can be our life or our death. So thats all I can say and I can only
> recommend politicians not to act as an UNIVERSAL LAWYERS and UNIVERSAL
> JUDGES...
> The reason of me writting about politicians are based on your
> previous posts Puma. Thank you
>
>

Oh Lilashi,


I see that you want to discuss in a hard way.Don`t you see there are
tremendous amount of laws in universe.
Gravitational,Electrical,Magnetic,Cosmic,scientific,and many more!

Famous scientific people are the ones who have found these laws...No
need to mention their names...
If you accept these are only named by these fellows it means names of
the laws can be changed later on or will be revised. OHM LAW for
instance with a little bit revision can be applied to the resistivity
of the earth!

When we put some grains of wheat into the soil, There comes out again
wheat...This clearly shows that there must be a law if not
universally,atleast there must be a law in this planet earth!

Politicians are poor people,thaey are the ones that they think they
govern the country...Which most of them have no idea regarding who is
at the direction of the country or countries...So we should forgive
them ...

With compassion,

Puma

[vbcol=seagreen]

puma

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Hi Lilashi,

Every body is free to accept or not to accept...It is natural, my
expessions here will be different then what you like to hear.

Universal law applies every where without having any distinction.
The results today are because of yesterday...It is so plain,so simple.
Only universal law takes a little diffrent time lapses depending on the
previous cases...If there was no universal Law,no one of our friends
would be on the erth today...Nothing happens in this eaerth without
having any cause...If you do not accept what Iam saying this will not
change the rule!

With compassion,

Puma


lilashi wrote:
> Dear Puma ,
> Now I see I can not really write in here...
> Cause the way you express yourself in Turkish are totally different
> then the way you express yourself in English. Sorry but I think I can
> no longer write in here.Cause I do not really accept your opinions...Or
> let me say I do not really accept your point of view.I know that you
> understand what I mean by being an individual .
>
> And yes there is a law in this planet earth. And specially in my
> country and of course in your country as well. Cause we are from Turkey
> yes ?And Turkey in in this planet yes ? So what is the universal law
> in Turkey ?


puma

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Hi Lilashi,

Every body is free to accept or not to accept...It is natural, my
expessions here will be different then what you like to hear.

Universal law applies every where without having any distinction.
The results today are because of yesterday...It is so plain,so simple.
Only universal law takes a little diffrent time lapses depending on the
previous cases...If there was no universal Law,no one of our friends
would be on the erth today...Nothing happens in this eaerth without
having any cause...If you do not accept what Iam saying this will not
change the rule!

With compassion,

Puma


lilashi wrote:
> Dear Puma ,
> Now I see I can not really write in here...
> Cause the way you express yourself in Turkish are totally different
> then the way you express yourself in English. Sorry but I think I can
> no longer write in here.Cause I do not really accept your opinions...Or
> let me say I do not really accept your point of view.I know that you
> understand what I mean by being an individual .
>
> And yes there is a law in this planet earth. And specially in my
> country and of course in your country as well. Cause we are from Turkey
> yes ?And Turkey in in this planet yes ? So what is the universal law
> in Turkey ?


lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Dear Puma ,
Now I see I can not really write in here...
Cause the way you express yourself in Turkish are totally different
then the way you express yourself in English. Sorry but I think I can
no longer write in here.Cause I do not really accept your opinions...Or
let me say I do not really accept your point of view.I know that you
understand what I mean by being an individual .

And yes there is a law in this planet earth. And specially in my
country and of course in your country as well. Cause we are from Turkey
yes ?And Turkey in in this planet yes ? So what is the universal law
in Turkey ?

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

I only know one rule dear puma.
Honesty.So are you going to play here cause and effect ? Good luck to
you.
You can forgive many things specially the politicians. But do not
forget one thing.Yoga is not used for brain washing and creating games
neither the science .What kind of yoga are you practising ? Or as a
matter of fact are you practising any yoga ?
So , as you say universal law applies everywhere but who he/she plays
universal law and lawyers can be punushed by THE LAW OF THE COUNTRY!
So, what kind of LAW ? are you talking about now ? I want to hear it ?
Do you know postman song ?

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

You know what whomever you are if you are from Turkey or whereever you
do not really know honesty.Being aware of what ? Being fooled by your
own country? Do you know all that ?Did they ever pulled you to the
hospital ? did they ever just not accept your sadnes?Did they ever and
ever made your fathers funural a monkey game ?
Or did they ever let you all alone and made your father your enemy for
no reason ? Or let me ask you have you ever had a cruel and a dog
family ?
Have you ever just wanted to hug your father but this dogs just not let
you do that! Have you ever had a REAL ! LIES in your own family?
Where you want to discuss my friend?
Lets talk about LIE.
For EXAMPLE : Your father died
Your are so sad...
Or shall I start how my mom died! and why ? and
all your family says that she died because she falled down from horse
car but years after you learn that she was hit by taxi! And nobody
showed you any court papers...You think about that for how many years!
Oh GOD! help me! But same day your husbant kicks you your dog bites a
child of a parlementer and your boss says you have to leave! an hour
later a phone call says your mom died! then your husbant really so
sorry he was busy
trying to rescue his job? But this husbant is already wanted to kill
you how many times...Yor mom dies...
So how will universal law helped?
Then you go to your moms funural.Your family
lies!You do not believe but you do not have power to find the truth.You
go back to your husbant he is busy! doing what ? UNIVERSAL f...ckkkk
.....ng LAW knows! But your DEVIL ? I CALL CRUEL BEACH! BOSS busy with
your husbants birthday...Then a month later your husbant wants to kill
you you go to police! but unfortunately they love to protect MAN! cause
your boss BEACH is the wife of the parlementer! and you loose! Cause
you are f....ucking WOMAN! in this country! then anyway...years later
when your father has a cancer it is enough you want to leave this
country! cause you do not trust your LAW!

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Shall I start again.
Everybody misunderstands you.All you want is a piece of word SORRY!
>From right people.right time.And LEGALY.

All you wanted was sorry!aLL YOU WANTED WAS not to see written
DIVORCED! on your idea card! You can never know what that means in
TURKEY!.Have you ever been fooled by your own people.FOR NO REASON!
This is not a GAME.This is plane FACT.And you are so sorry for your mom
your father your own life.
So shall we talk about LAW!

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

So, what is the compassion puma ?
I think still being alive is compassion.Because I have enough reason
for being a murder...So shall we really talk about UNIVERSAL LAW ? I
prefer talking about LAW of my countries courts.Cause still I believe
they will f...cking bring me the paper that I have been f...cked by
certain people.In my job! my husbants country! cause he wasn't Turkish!
I still wait for the consulate of his country to send me a paper that
he is in prison or HOSPITAL ! I m still waiting from his parents a
PIECE OF SORRY!
I was waiting a hug from my father but unfortunately he died.
I am still waiting an official court paper that it doesnt write
DIVORCED ! on my idea card cause...
And I am still waiting to live whereever I want to. Not in a bought
house where everthing reminds me all that pain!
And I m still waiting that people around me stop acting me as I m
stupid!
So shall we TALK ABOUT LAW!

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Or shall I continue how I have been also f...ucked in my job!
Have you ever worked but because you are divorced no body suddenly
wants to give you a job! Or you find a job but they do not want to make
your social insurance!
Or have you ever can not smile anymore...
Shall I start talking about my working life and we see if it fits to
the UNIVERSAL LAW!
Or will it ever been protected by social insurance and woman , human
rights of my country.
So puma or whomever you are just stop talking about UNIVERSAL LAW !
Well that was it. Thats all.

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

Ahh I forgot to write something :
Have you ever and ever left in the situation by your parents that you
can not even ask your family belongings official papers but your family
members just says you have to just SHUT UP!
But you are 35 YEARS OLD! But you were married a foreigner! ohh!!!!!how
can you ask anything! you have to just shushhhh!!!!!
So SHALL WE TALK ABOUT LAW! How can you if you do not have a XXXXing
any right lawyer and any money! you die its better!
Have you ever lieve all that puma! not in your f....cking yoga dream!
in reality!
But if you want we can talk about dreams!!! OR dreams...
Shall I just send this life story to warner bross...I believe mt people
already trying to make a movie or TV SHOW! about it but it wont be.
Cause there is only one thing left in my heart that is trust!or
confidence.
Cause my life already became a compassion itself!

lilashi

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm

And finaly what is left can you tell me ?
All I want is sorry.
So.Shall I start talking about being woman in my country.
Or shall I just smoke a packets of cigarettes just to kill myself until
all this sorry comes to me officially.
Shall I start talking about co.operation of the Turkish actors and
actrists whom he f...ucked my fathers life!
Unfortunately he was an actor who he loves his country...But
unfortunately...Because he is human he had to live a life like
that...Because he had compassion.
So shall I start to talk about this co.operation meeting that I was
taken!
All lies! and all happens is people just want to XXXX your brain!' And
you just swore everybody in there ! They built f...ucking buildings for
theirselfs...All you said when his accounter called you to his office
was you can not talk about money...And you do not want any rights in
this buildings which is still being built! Cause he says so... And you
leave his office...And monts later he calls your step mother and you
and your sister...But somehow your s.mother only takes you...to this
meeting.They take you to the dark saloon as a theatre...And you do not
know why you are there ! and yes you f...ucking swore everybody inthere
the reason is : if your mom coulnt see this new houses you do not want
any....But what they think I wonder ? whatever....In my opinion this is
also dog game!
And shall I start talking about forgiving! but certain people does not
let you do that!
I call them vomit! or faulty people!
I am sorry to be honest !

puma

2005-09-24, 2:26 pm


Lilashi,Lilashi,Lilashi,

I love you. I love your expessions...

I am very sorry for being a cause to take you to the past.


Yes dear your life is compassion,without any doubt. You are right.
Only keep in your mind that PEOPLE are PEOPLE,no matter from where they
are...As an example your ex husband`s country was a different one.So
universal law does not recognise any boundries...

With compassion,

Puma

lilashi wrote:
> And finaly what is left can you tell me ?
> All I want is sorry.
> So.Shall I start talking about being woman in my country.
> Or shall I just smoke a packets of cigarettes just to kill myself until
> all this sorry comes to me officially.
> Shall I start talking about co.operation of the Turkish actors and
> actrists whom he f...ucked my fathers life!
> Unfortunately he was an actor who he loves his country...But
> unfortunately...Because he is human he had to live a life like
> that...Because he had compassion.
> So shall I start to talk about this co.operation meeting that I was
> taken!
> All lies! and all happens is people just want to XXXX your brain!' And
> you just swore everybody in there ! They built f...ucking buildings for
> theirselfs...All you said when his accounter called you to his office
> was you can not talk about money...And you do not want any rights in
> this buildings which is still being built! Cause he says so... And you
> leave his office...And monts later he calls your step mother and you
> and your sister...But somehow your s.mother only takes you...to this
> meeting.They take you to the dark saloon as a theatre...And you do not
> know why you are there ! and yes you f...ucking swore everybody inthere
> the reason is : if your mom coulnt see this new houses you do not want
> any....But what they think I wonder ? whatever....In my opinion this is
> also dog game!
> And shall I start talking about forgiving! but certain people does not
> let you do that!
> I call them vomit! or faulty people!
> I am sorry to be honest !


lilashi

2005-09-25, 10:34 am

My husbant was from England and Universal Law knows where does he now !

Busy celebrating birthdays with his new lovers ?
is he in the prison ?
or is he death ?
Or is he the SHAME for his COUNTRY!

lilashi

2005-09-25, 10:34 am

Shall we talk about sciontology church!

puma

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

Lilashi,

You know that I do like only one unique temple. That is our innermost
place. Every one of us has it but most of us try to find it in INDIA or
in MEKKE or in other places known HOLY... Actually Sidarta said its
place stating MANI PADME...

And YUNUS EMRE has said that THERE IS another SELF within MYSELF...

So SCIENCE ok. But I do not like churches or mosques or sinagogs or
other temples...Because I know that people are going these temples to
be forgiven by GOD. I have no sins...I love all the beings...

Have you found a good job yet?

Puma

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

' Have you find a job yet ? '
No. I am busy trying to make myself crazy .

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

I am busy trying to kill myself by smoking cigarettes.
Why ?

Shall I start once more ?
Shall I really start once more to explain puma ?
You know about the story of my mariage !

I just want to run away from TURKEY! I HATE LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY!
I love this country but when I have enough reasons !
I do not believe any religion neither I do not have any political
ideology or dogma !
I have enough of my family. I have enough of the liars.
I do not want a job.
When I know most of the lies of the people aronud me ( included
official workers )
When I m aware of the beyin orospulari !

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

When there are many beyin orospusu woman and men around why shouldnt
I just ask on my idea card written divorced and also written nothing on
the religion part!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahh but beyin orsps dilek=E7e yazan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! knows
itttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

I hate being misundertood !
I do not want anybody to help me .
I want sorry! from the people who screwed my life ! officially , also
face to
face.

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

Shall I start talking about Marmaris Life!!!!!!!!
And the Dogs in there ?

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

Shall I start talking about it ?
Anyway dear puma. Please do not really ask me have I found a job! Yes
my job is making myself crazy.I have enough reasons.
Shall I start talking about a dog whom gave me hope here in Istanbul
and because of him and his wife I just left my job just 4 months ago
.... I hate this country cause people around me was just seeing it
watching it and they did nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats sad isnt it.

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

So thats it .
Does that make enough cause I m selling my life story for the ones who
f....uced it!!!!!!!!!!!!1

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

And I am sorry using fck word several times...But when many people
makes real mistakes I guess the ones I made can be understood.

lilashi

2005-09-26, 5:21 pm

So dear puma
Thats all. You asked I answered.And please do not ask me anything.

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