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About Universal Law...
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When USA has started to bomb poor IRAQ cities,and when USA had no care
if it was a mosq or a hospital in IRAQ,when Mr. WALKER BUSH has put
Middle East in his mind, PUMA has posted several posters here on these
lines and stated that there is UNIVERSAL LAW, and it states that
WHATEVER YOU DO, YOU WILL GET IT.
Now universal law has just started to apply,as same logic involving...
What was Mr. Walker BUSH` logic? He said that he wants only SADDAM
HUSSEIN. But he just ordered to kill poor people in IRAQ...What was the
reason of these innocent children or innocent old peoples`mistake and
what was their wrong doings?
Their only mistakes if it was mistakes were only being IRAQI
citizens...
So These NEW ORLEANS peoples` mistake is being only US CITIZENS...
So Paul or others, if is there anybody who could not understand this
UNIVERSAL LAW...They will for sure realize it from noz on what
UNIVERSAL LAW is and how it applies.
It applies same way...IF you give soil grains of wheat, you will
certainly get wheat,NOT MAIZE or BARLEY...
That is the UNIVERSAL LAW....
With compassion,
Puma
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| leonard 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:33:48 -0700, puma wrote:
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> When USA has started to bomb poor IRAQ cities,and when USA had no care
> if it was a mosq or a hospital in IRAQ,when Mr. WALKER BUSH has put
> Middle East in his mind, PUMA has posted several posters here on these
> lines and stated that there is UNIVERSAL LAW, and it states that
> WHATEVER YOU DO, YOU WILL GET IT.
>
> Now universal law has just started to apply,as same logic involving...
> What was Mr. Walker BUSH` logic? He said that he wants only SADDAM
> HUSSEIN. But he just ordered to kill poor people in IRAQ...What was the
> reason of these innocent children or innocent old peoples`mistake and
> what was their wrong doings?
>
> Their only mistakes if it was mistakes were only being IRAQI
> citizens...
>
> So These NEW ORLEANS peoples` mistake is being only US CITIZENS...
>
> So Paul or others, if is there anybody who could not understand this
> UNIVERSAL LAW...They will for sure realize it from noz on what
> UNIVERSAL LAW is and how it applies.
>
> It applies same way...IF you give soil grains of wheat, you will
> certainly get wheat,NOT MAIZE or BARLEY...
>
> That is the UNIVERSAL LAW....
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
You could be right or you could be wrong.
Don't let your opinion go either way.
If a person eats carrots all day and all night
his skin will turn orange.
--
Devotion to the Lotus Sutra
Devotion to the cause of life.
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| Paul H 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
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"puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
news:1125948828.166493.308320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> When USA has started to bomb poor IRAQ cities,and when USA had no care
> if it was a mosq or a hospital in IRAQ,when Mr. WALKER BUSH has put
> Middle East in his mind, PUMA has posted several posters here on these
> lines and stated that there is UNIVERSAL LAW, and it states that
> WHATEVER YOU DO, YOU WILL GET IT.
>
> Now universal law has just started to apply,as same logic involving...
> What was Mr. Walker BUSH` logic? He said that he wants only SADDAM
> HUSSEIN. But he just ordered to kill poor people in IRAQ...What was the
> reason of these innocent children or innocent old peoples`mistake and
> what was their wrong doings?
>
> Their only mistakes if it was mistakes were only being IRAQI
> citizens...
>
> So These NEW ORLEANS peoples` mistake is being only US CITIZENS...
>
> So Paul or others, if is there anybody who could not understand this
> UNIVERSAL LAW...They will for sure realize it from noz on what
> UNIVERSAL LAW is and how it applies.
>
> It applies same way...IF you give soil grains of wheat, you will
> certainly get wheat,NOT MAIZE or BARLEY...
Bush started a war, not a hurricane fight.
> That is the UNIVERSAL LAW....
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> With compassion,
>
> Puma
So George bush orders the slaughter, er I mean "liberation", of Iraqis and
next thing you know there's a hurricane in New Orleans! Yea it's obviously
the will of the gods, it all makes sense now.
I predict that a fool will knock at your door puma spouting ill conceived
nonsense about the interconnectedness of arses and elbows.
Nurse, the screens please!
Paul
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| ED WILKINSON 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| Why do poor New Orleans people have to pay for Bush bombing poor Iraqi
people?
The poor New Orleans people weren't responsible for the bombing
of the Iraqis and are not the group who support Bush. Why does the Univeral
Law punish them?
-Ed
"puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
news:1125948828.166493.308320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> When USA has started to bomb poor IRAQ cities,and when USA had no care
> if it was a mosq or a hospital in IRAQ,when Mr. WALKER BUSH has put
> Middle East in his mind, PUMA has posted several posters here on these
> lines and stated that there is UNIVERSAL LAW, and it states that
> WHATEVER YOU DO, YOU WILL GET IT.
>
> Now universal law has just started to apply,as same logic involving...
> What was Mr. Walker BUSH` logic? He said that he wants only SADDAM
> HUSSEIN. But he just ordered to kill poor people in IRAQ...What was the
> reason of these innocent children or innocent old peoples`mistake and
> what was their wrong doings?
>
> Their only mistakes if it was mistakes were only being IRAQI
> citizens...
>
> So These NEW ORLEANS peoples` mistake is being only US CITIZENS...
>
> So Paul or others, if is there anybody who could not understand this
> UNIVERSAL LAW...They will for sure realize it from noz on what
> UNIVERSAL LAW is and how it applies.
>
> It applies same way...IF you give soil grains of wheat, you will
> certainly get wheat,NOT MAIZE or BARLEY...
>
> That is the UNIVERSAL LAW....
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
>
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| Edward Dike, III 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
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"ED WILKINSON" <edwilk@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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| Why do poor New Orleans people have to pay for Bush bombing poor Iraqi
| people?
| The poor New Orleans people weren't responsible for the bombing
| of the Iraqis and are not the group who support Bush. Why does the
Univeral
| Law punish them?
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| -Ed
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Regardless of one's view on the USA/ Iraq situation, 'Universal Law' appears
to be something either concocted, or subverted by someone who speaks of them
self in the third person, as a thinly veiled political statement,
camouflaged as some sort of mystical wisdom.
Ed
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| On 2005-09-05 14:51:26 -0700, "Edward Dike, III"
<edd(2+1)remove_removes@qwestion.net> said:
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> "ED WILKINSON" <edwilk@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:2d2Te.7542$9i4.626@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> | Why do poor New Orleans people have to pay for Bush bombing poor Iraqi
> | people?
> | The poor New Orleans people weren't responsible for the bombing
> | of the Iraqis and are not the group who support Bush. Why does the
> Univeral
> | Law punish them?
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> | -Ed
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> Regardless of one's view on the USA/ Iraq situation, 'Universal Law' appears
> to be something either concocted, or subverted by someone who speaks of them
> self in the third person, as a thinly veiled political statement,
> camouflaged as some sort of mystical wisdom.
> Ed
For those of you who take this discussion seriously I have a Website for you.
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
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~Stu
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| Paul H 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
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"Stu" <Nospam@towel.com> wrote in message
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> On 2005-09-05 14:51:26 -0700, "Edward Dike, III"
> <edd(2+1)remove_removes@qwestion.net> said:
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> For those of you who take this discussion seriously I have a Website for
> you.
>
> http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
> --
> ~Stu
That's all very well, but I need something for the voices *inside* my head.
;o)
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| omjaroo 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| Do you think yoga might help? ;-) ;-)
BTW in recovery circles those voices are called the "committee" :-)
Jared
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| Ed ,
Universal Law actually in Buddhism is known as RISSHO ANKOKU RON.And
has no relation with a thinly political statement or camuouflaged
mystical wisdom.
Whatever you do,you will get the same. This is correct as the rays of
the sun. You may check it on any media...with humans,with vejetation,or
with pets, with anything!!!
It has no relation with punishment or with any prise either.No
Comouflage at all. It is so open FACT!
With compassion,
Puma
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| leonard 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:48:33 -0700, puma wrote:
> Ed ,
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> Universal Law actually in Buddhism is known as RISSHO ANKOKU RON.And
> has no relation with a thinly political statement or camuouflaged
> mystical wisdom.
>
> Whatever you do,you will get the same. This is correct as the rays of
> the sun. You may check it on any media...with humans,with vejetation,or
> with pets, with anything!!!
>
> It has no relation with punishment or with any prise either.No
> Comouflage at all. It is so open FACT!
>
> With compassion,
> Puma
But it is very difficult to believe such a thing.
Why should we believe in universal law when we all
know that all suffering has no real cause.
I've read of some masters who say that it is
critical to enlightenment. But still I do not
accept it as real. I need something more
substantial than just the words of others.
--
Devotion to the Lotus Sutra
Devotion to the cause of life.
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| leonard wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:48:33 -0700, puma wrote:
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> Hi Leonard,
Thanks for your interest anyway...
If you believe anything that means you do not know it! If you know
something that means you do not believe it!
So, that means you know something allready. That is good.
Universal Law is such a principle that you may verify it by
yourselve...You do not need any belief...You do not need to believe me
or any body else!
Just say good words to your friends, he/she will enjoy it and he/she
will try to say good words to you also in return...If you put some
barley seeds in a piece of soil and several days later you will get
barley springs...
If you gaze anybody with a hateful face,you will get the same reply!All
your actions even to animals or plants will give you its reply in a
reciprocal way...
About suffering, there are several points involved...THE TYPE OF
SUFFERING IS IMPORTANT, BUDDHA did not mention this. BUT EVERYTHING has
a CAUSE, without any cause no birds fly in this world! all acts have a
cause! Without any cause nothing happens!
Forget about all the sutras,just listen to your own voice because, MANI
PADME...
If you really know what this means,you may hear the voice within your
deep self...If not forget it and try toget the meaning of MANI PADME,
it has nothing related to flowers or to jewels!!!
I love your words regarding if I eat carrots what my skin will
be...Orange you said...I believe you! Because I do not know it, if it
really does!
With compassion,
Puma
> But it is very difficult to believe such a thing.
> Why should we believe in universal law when we all
> know that all suffering has no real cause.
> I've read of some masters who say that it is
> critical to enlightenment. But still I do not
> accept it as real. I need something more
> substantial than just the words of others.
>
> --
> Devotion to the Lotus Sutra
> Devotion to the cause of life.
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| leonard 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:09:14 -0700, puma wrote:
> leonard wrote:
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> Thanks for your interest anyway...
>
> If you believe anything that means you do not know it! If you know
> something that means you do not believe it!
>
> So, that means you know something allready. That is good.
>
> Universal Law is such a principle that you may verify it by
> yourselve...You do not need any belief...You do not need to believe me
> or any body else!
>
> Just say good words to your friends, he/she will enjoy it and he/she
> will try to say good words to you also in return...If you put some
> barley seeds in a piece of soil and several days later you will get
> barley springs...
>
> If you gaze anybody with a hateful face,you will get the same reply!All
> your actions even to animals or plants will give you its reply in a
> reciprocal way...
>
> About suffering, there are several points involved...THE TYPE OF
> SUFFERING IS IMPORTANT, BUDDHA did not mention this. BUT EVERYTHING has
> a CAUSE, without any cause no birds fly in this world! all acts have a
> cause! Without any cause nothing happens!
>
> Forget about all the sutras,just listen to your own voice because, MANI
> PADME...
> If you really know what this means,you may hear the voice within your
> deep self...If not forget it and try toget the meaning of MANI PADME,
> it has nothing related to flowers or to jewels!!!
>
> I love your words regarding if I eat carrots what my skin will
> be...Orange you said...I believe you! Because I do not know it, if it
> really does!
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
You are very passionate about it so that leaves
me in some doubt about my own views. I still don't
fully support the idea of Rissho Ankoku Ron.
But at least I'll keep an eye out for it.
--
Devotion to the Lotus Sutra
Devotion to the cause of life.
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| Julian 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| leonard wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:09:14 -0700, puma wrote:
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> You are very passionate about it so that leaves
> me in some doubt about my own views. I still don't
> fully support the idea of Rissho Ankoku Ron.
> But at least I'll keep an eye out for it.
Which idea of Rissho Ankoku Ron do you not support?
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| leonard 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:39:42 +0100, Julian wrote:
> leonard wrote:
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> Which idea of Rissho Ankoku Ron do you not support?
That there is a link between good actions and good results
and the link between bad actions and bad results.
I believe that actions are independent of their results.
But as I said "I'll keep an eye on it."
--
Devotion to the Lotus Sutra
Devotion to the cause of life.
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| Julian 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| leonard wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:39:42 +0100, Julian wrote:
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> That there is a link between good actions and good results
> and the link between bad actions and bad results.
I seem to have missed that bit.
Please indicate where such links are documented.
> I believe that actions are independent of their results.
Does that go for devotion to "cause of life" too?
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| leonard 2005-09-24, 2:25 pm |
| On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:49:09 +0100, Julian wrote:
> leonard wrote:
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> I seem to have missed that bit.
> Please indicate where such links are documented.
>
http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/lib...hoAnkokuRon.htm
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> Does that go for devotion to "cause of life" too?
I believe in causes but not in the effects of causes.
--
Devotion to the Lotus Sutra
Devotion to the cause of life.
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