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prana, pranayama, prana vidya (cont)
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| Hi Space Cristal:
I'm back again (I've been out)
First of all, doing pranayama is good but not too much. Satyananda says
that the worst way to awaken kundalini is to do it only with
pranayama: is works like an explosion. The best way is to plan an
workout with asanas, and join pranayamas as a complement, relaxation,
yoga nidra or meditation. There are other complements, if you decide to
follow the Kriya Yoga (Satyananda), the vibration of sound (eg,
mantras), concentrate in a flame, etc.
In some way, there are always a workout of pran all over the practice
of asanas (in srict sense every breathing is a pran). It depends on the
way you have choosen. For instance, some plans of exercise, that are
meant to calm down (yoga integral), do little pauses between asanas,
with a diaphragmatic pran. (it helps to calm down and to concentrate).
There are other plans (advanced: eg. ashtanga), with a strong work
together with asanas, prans (ujayi), and bandhas (moola, jalandara),
working all together like a coreography.
The best way, for you is to follow a pre-planned program. Is this you
case? Or are you doing a sort of a randow program?....
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"the term "low breathing" i am not familiar with, but pressume that u
mean that air (energy-prana) entered through nose and through the
throat is carry in almost 2 the genitals or low belly (not litteraly
but it feels like something like that)"
No. Not at all.
Go to the chapter called "basic breathing methods", where is expained
the complete breathing that could be done in a integrated way):
- diaphragmatic or abdominal breathing (lower breathing) - what works
is only the diaphragm - which is above the belly...... The belly works
passively, as consequence of the active work of the diaphragm.
- thoracic
- clavicular
You must master this breathing before going further.
What works (I mean in a active way) about the genitals is "moola
bandha". Which is an advanced practice for you: is another way to
kundalini. So, take care ....
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">The more low is the breathing more calm us<
i also noticed that & find it good thing, but the way i translated
what u wrote i am not sure that is positive or something
as "over-calm" "
What I mean by a lower breathing is a diaphragmatic (or abdominal
breathing) - above the belly or just bellow your ribcage.
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"do u - or better is it ok 2 practice pranayama while in stress,
depression, bad emotional situation or something similar, until now i
read that it is not good 2 practice under that circumstances, also i
found similarity that when physical body is tempted it is not good 2
practice it also the right time of the day and such practical inf. or
it is individualy "
yes. You can and you should. Stress, depression and bad emotional
situation, means that your are not attuned, not in union (yoga =
union). So you should do yoga (asanas and pran):
- stress: do pran to calm down - diaphragmatic and see the chapter
tranquilizing prans and balancing pran;
- depression: do pran to vitalize - bastrika and kapalabati, and also
balancing pran...
- bad emotional situation: the complete breathing (see above), and
balancing pranayamas (alternate).
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Yoga nidra:
is a relaxation method (Satyananda has a book about it - with
transcriptions).
Is done following the instructions of a teacher (or through a tape,or
CD). You just follow the instuctions. Is good to everyone....
In the book above, Satyananda prepared some transcriptions, that we can
use to record with our voice (or ask a friend , etc...). Then we use
it.
Moon
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| spacecrystal@gmail.com 2005-09-24, 2:24 pm |
| 1 hello from out-space sorry 4 delay
> First of all, doing pranayama is good but not too much. Satyananda says
> that the worst way to awaken kundalini is to do it only with
> pranayama: is works like an explosion. The best way is to plan an
> workout with asanas, and join pranayamas as a complement, relaxation,
> yoga nidra or meditation. There are other complements, if you decide to
> follow the Kriya Yoga (Satyananda), the vibration of sound (eg,
> mantras), concentrate in a flame, etc.
> In some way, there are always a workout of pran all over the practice
> of asanas (in srict sense every breathing is a pran). It depends on the
> way you have choosen. For instance, some plans of exercise, that are
> meant to calm down (yoga integral), do little pauses between asanas,
> with a diaphragmatic pran. (it helps to calm down and to concentrate).
> There are other plans (advanced: eg. ashtanga), with a strong work
> together with asanas, prans (ujayi), and bandhas (moola, jalandara),
> working all together like a coreography.
ok
> The best way, for you is to follow a pre-planned program. Is this you
> case? Or are you doing a sort of a randow program?....
no, i have no predefined program, i usually do (almost) daily
set of asana ~(15 - 20)min and then after set of pranayamas that
i described in last post
i could writte the asanas i do - if necessary. also i do not do
every asana every day - i mix the practice as i feel/wish
> ----
> "the term "low breathing" i am not familiar with, but pressume that u
> mean that air (energy-prana) entered through nose and through the
> throat is carry in almost 2 the genitals or low belly (not litteraly
> but it feels like something like that)"
>
> No. Not at all.
> Go to the chapter called "basic breathing methods", where is expained
> the complete breathing that could be done in a integrated way):
> - diaphragmatic or abdominal breathing (lower breathing) - what works
> is only the diaphragm - which is above the belly...... The belly works
> passively, as consequence of the active work of the diaphragm.
> - thoracic
> - clavicular
>
> You must master this breathing before going further.
agree
> yes. You can and you should. Stress, depression and bad emotional
> situation, means that your are not attuned, not in union (yoga =
> union). So you should do yoga (asanas and pran):
> - stress: do pran to calm down - diaphragmatic and see the chapter
> tranquilizing prans and balancing pran;
> - depression: do pran to vitalize - bastrika and kapalabati, and also
> balancing pran...
> - bad emotional situation: the complete breathing (see above), and
> balancing pranayamas (alternate).
pranayama = good thing B)
thanx!
spacecrystal
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| Hi there,
I wonder what are you trying to explain? Satyananda or pranayama or
what?
I prefer listen to your own ideas,because we all know satyananda...
please be specific.
Puma
Moon wrote:
> Hi Space Cristal:
>
> I'm back again (I've been out)
>
> First of all, doing pranayama is good but not too much. Satyananda says
> that the worst way to awaken kundalini is to do it only with
> pranayama: is works like an explosion. The best way is to plan an
> workout with asanas, and join pranayamas as a complement, relaxation,
> yoga nidra or meditation. There are other complements, if you decide to
> follow the Kriya Yoga (Satyananda), the vibration of sound (eg,
> mantras), concentrate in a flame, etc.
>
> In some way, there are always a workout of pran all over the practice
> of asanas (in srict sense every breathing is a pran). It depends on the
> way you have choosen. For instance, some plans of exercise, that are
> meant to calm down (yoga integral), do little pauses between asanas,
> with a diaphragmatic pran. (it helps to calm down and to concentrate).
> There are other plans (advanced: eg. ashtanga), with a strong work
> together with asanas, prans (ujayi), and bandhas (moola, jalandara),
> working all together like a coreography.
>
> The best way, for you is to follow a pre-planned program. Is this you
> case? Or are you doing a sort of a randow program?....
> ----
> "the term "low breathing" i am not familiar with, but pressume that u
> mean that air (energy-prana) entered through nose and through the
> throat is carry in almost 2 the genitals or low belly (not litteraly
> but it feels like something like that)"
>
> No. Not at all.
> Go to the chapter called "basic breathing methods", where is expained
> the complete breathing that could be done in a integrated way):
> - diaphragmatic or abdominal breathing (lower breathing) - what works
> is only the diaphragm - which is above the belly...... The belly works
> passively, as consequence of the active work of the diaphragm.
> - thoracic
> - clavicular
>
> You must master this breathing before going further.
>
> What works (I mean in a active way) about the genitals is "moola
> bandha". Which is an advanced practice for you: is another way to
> kundalini. So, take care ....
>
> -------------
>
> ">The more low is the breathing more calm us<
>
> i also noticed that & find it good thing, but the way i translated
> what u wrote i am not sure that is positive or something
> as "over-calm" "
>
> What I mean by a lower breathing is a diaphragmatic (or abdominal
> breathing) - above the belly or just bellow your ribcage.
> ---
>
>
> "do u - or better is it ok 2 practice pranayama while in stress,
> depression, bad emotional situation or something similar, until now i
> read that it is not good 2 practice under that circumstances, also i
> found similarity that when physical body is tempted it is not good 2
> practice it also the right time of the day and such practical inf. or
> it is individualy "
>
> yes. You can and you should. Stress, depression and bad emotional
> situation, means that your are not attuned, not in union (yoga =
> union). So you should do yoga (asanas and pran):
> - stress: do pran to calm down - diaphragmatic and see the chapter
> tranquilizing prans and balancing pran;
> - depression: do pran to vitalize - bastrika and kapalabati, and also
> balancing pran...
> - bad emotional situation: the complete breathing (see above), and
> balancing pranayamas (alternate).
>
> ----
>
> Yoga nidra:
> is a relaxation method (Satyananda has a book about it - with
> transcriptions).
> Is done following the instructions of a teacher (or through a tape,or
> CD). You just follow the instuctions. Is good to everyone....
>
> In the book above, Satyananda prepared some transcriptions, that we can
> use to record with our voice (or ask a friend , etc...). Then we use
> it.
>
> Moon
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| Ok
(provoking me)
more specific.....
(let's see)
the moon is always a lady and the sun is always a gentleman
(in other way)
energy from the left side is more light and fresh (let's say like in
heaven...)
:-)
energy from the right side is like fire when is moving! But it should
move otherwise it gets blocked, and we can't move our right side of our
body.
(just like men...)
:-(
The better way to deal with it is the vinyasa or the ashtanga method
(go with the flow..., and fly...., and get refreshed and released....)
And the alternate breathing does a great job (as a complement)
Moon
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| =ABOr are you doing a sort of a randow program?....
no, i have no predefined program, i usually do (almost) daily
set of asana ~(15 - 20)min and then after set of pranayamas that
i described in last post =BB
You need (a) some plans (you shouldn't do randow plans) or
(b)to learn some rules.
That book I' ve recomend you (Satyananda: Asana, pran,etc) explains
about the sequence (before and after).
But, there are other book that is good (another recomendation), from
Desikachar
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...3Dsib_rdr_dp/1=
04-9790141-1768707?%5Fencoding=3DUTF8&no=3D283155&me=3DATVPDKIKX0DER&st=3Db=
ooks
Or you prefer not to buy the books?
Which do you prefer, (a) some plans (Iyengar type) or (Satyananda -
Pawamuktasana), or (b) i fix you some rules?
Choose....
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| Dear Moon,
Thanks.How nice to know you.I really like your reply-energy.But it is a
custom to have one channel blocked while the other is open
There are several methods to open the blocked one ,but I never
succeeded to open it...
With compassion,
Puma
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| Puma:
That's why I like the vinyasa method.
If I don't have time, or I don't have class, I resolve the problem with
some sun salutations (the ashtanga way).
Let's say, due to my genetics and stressing job, I acumulate too much
energy in the third chakra, and I have to release it before going to
bed, otherwise I can't sleep.
If the problem is just energy acumulated, the sun salutation A is
enough, but if I have also a channel blocked I have to do the B (as the
B works the two sides).
But I can't say this method is good to everyone....
In my case I get rid of energy, other people acumulate energy (which is
not good at night).
Moon
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| Puma:
I think you have a little problem in the other topic...
Is not better to change the subject to =ABuniversal consciousness=BB? and
the way each of us, should try to reach it? So we get the flow of the
Univers? (and have peace of mind)
I understand you, but I think there is an overall misunderstanding,
because people think there are someone ruling them, and confusing law
with hierarquy in jobs and in politics....
go with flow...
Moon
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