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| Re-master 2005-07-30, 8:54 am |
| Does anyone know where I could download yoga or pilates dvd, from
which newgroup. Thanks
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| YOGA is something different than Pilates. So pleas do not mention both
as if they were same!!!
Pilates are stolen acts from asanas....so you can download it
anywhere,on the corner near your house..Even a fakir might do it or any
atletics at a circus...It is very easy...
But if you are talking on YOGA,first tyou have to be interested with
it...
With compassion,
Puma
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| Mr. Random 2005-07-30, 11:51 am |
| Re-master wrote:
> Does anyone know where I could download yoga or pilates dvd, from
> which newgroup. Thanks
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Your best bet would be Limewire.
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| Sevenhundred Elves 2005-07-30, 5:54 pm |
| Mr. Random wrote:
> Re-master wrote:
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> Your best bet would be Limewire.
It would be better if he bought it in a shop. Yoga is best begun with a
clean conscience.
S.
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| On 2005-07-30 09:03:06 -0700, "puma" <puma@dowse.com> said:
> YOGA is something different than Pilates. So pleas do not mention both
> as if they were same!!!
>
> Pilates are stolen acts from asanas
Not true. Pilates was developed as a method for helping dancers in NY
with injuries in the 40's and 50's.
They have borrowed some methods from asana practice. Yoga is free for
all. Nobody "steals" it.
The integration of ancient yogic practices into Western life is not
stealing. Yoga is a living evolving practice.
.....so you can download it
> anywhere,on the corner near your house..Even a fakir might do it or any
> atletics at a circus...It is very easy...
>
> But if you are talking on YOGA,first tyou have to be interested with
> it...
>
> With compassion,
>
> How about compassion for those who derive benefit from Pilates?
Puma
>
>
--
~Stu
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| Mr. Random 2005-07-31, 11:52 am |
| Sevenhundred Elves wrote:
> Mr. Random wrote:
>
>
>
>
> It would be better if he bought it in a shop. Yoga is best begun with a
> clean conscience.
>
> S.
Hey there Sevenhundred Elves
True. Just giving an option. Sounds like the person doesn't want to buy a
legit version. Guess I shouldn't of encouraged it  But everyone has choice
and knows the difference between right and wrong. If they don't, they'll find
out the hard way 
In thought
Shane-o =]
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Stu wrote:
> On 2005-07-30 09:03:06 -0700, "puma" <puma@dowse.com> said:
>
>
> Not true. Pilates was developed as a method for helping dancers in NY
> with injuries in the 40's and 50's.
Oh Come on Stu,
In this world there are things that you can not defend. Stealing is a
sort of UNLEGAL ACT in every cultur and every society.Everybody who has
some sort of knowkedge about yoga knows how these PILATES were
stolen!Just check the asanas and pilates also...So your knowledge is
not enought to defend PILATES...No matter what was the intention these
are stolen acts from yogic asanas.
>
> They have borrowed some methods from asana practice. Yoga is free for
> all. Nobody "steals" it.
If yoga is free,show me where is free. Don`t just say it from your
mouth. Same time think on it a bit and check if it is feasible what you
say and the reality!!!If you do not know kindly shut up...
>
> The integration of ancient yogic practices into Western life is not
> stealing. Yoga is a living evolving practice.
If you are doing them with the same name and if you have a resoect to
it Okey. But if you steal anything then just put a different name as if
you are the inventer,it is stealing dear. Stealing is any action that
is not yours but you pretend as if it is yours. You have got a lond way
to learn these small things....Defending any unlegal action meams
cooperation with them...So be careful!!![vbcol=seagreen]
>
> ....so you can download it
With compassion,
Puma
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| Paul H 2005-08-02, 8:57 am |
| I had to chip in as there was some quite bizarre and sweeping statements
here..
>
> Oh Come on Stu,
>
> In this world there are things that you can not defend. Stealing is a
> sort of UNLEGAL ACT in every cultur and every society.Everybody who has
> some sort of knowkedge about yoga knows how these PILATES were
> stolen!Just check the asanas and pilates also...So your knowledge is
> not enought to defend PILATES...No matter what was the intention these
> are stolen acts from yogic asanas.
>
> If yoga is free,show me where is free.
Do you pay someone when you practice yoga on your own? Is there a Yoga
Mafia?
Mob guy (In a New York Accent)>> "Hey you shmuck, Eddie here tells me you
bin doin' asanas, You know how Pauly feels about that shit. Eddie says he's
seen you doin' a Warrior 2"
You>> "No Tony, I was just measuring the room."
Mob Guy>>"..and what's this about an Utthita Trikonasana?
You>> "Like I said, I was measuring up, we're moving you see."
Mob Guy>>"Moving eh? What about the Tadasana he saw you doin'?.....For five
goddam minutes!"
Puma>>"Er.. I was thinking... about the move...really hard.."
Mob Guy>>"Thinking? THINKING! You were meditatin' you son of a XXXXX!"
Sound of gun shots........
Don`t just say it from your
> mouth. Same time think on it a bit and check if it is feasible what you
> say and the reality!!!If you do not know kindly shut up...
>
> If you are doing them with the same name and if you have a resoect to
> it Okey. But if you steal anything then just put a different name as if
> you are the inventer,it is stealing dear. Stealing is any action that
> is not yours but you pretend as if it is yours.
I think that's misrepresentation or plagiarism actually. Stealing is taking
something that isn't yours and Yoga is no ones possession. While we are on
the subject do you feel Ashtanga, Iyengar, Bikram are acts of theft or
adaptation?
You have got a lond way
> to learn these small things....Defending any unlegal action meams
> cooperation with them...So be careful!!!
Pilates is illegal!?! In which country?
[vbcol=seagreen]
Personally I love Yoga, it's like religion without all the bollocks. Don't
make it something it's not, a sacred act for the enlightened few. Yoga is
for everyone however you choose to practice it and whatever you want to call
it. This kind of debate will always end up in tears, before you know it
we'll have suicide Yogi bombers blowing themselves up at physiotherapist
conventions.
Paul
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| On 2005-08-02 03:16:05 -0700, "Paul H" <nospam@nospam.com> said:
> I had to chip in as there was some quite bizarre and sweeping statements here..
>
>
>
>
> Do you pay someone when you practice yoga on your own? Is there a Yoga Mafia?
>
> Mob guy (In a New York Accent)>> "Hey you shmuck, Eddie here tells me
> you bin doin' asanas, You know how Pauly feels about that shit. Eddie
> says he's seen you doin' a Warrior 2"
>
> You>> "No Tony, I was just measuring the room."
>
> Mob Guy>>"..and what's this about an Utthita Trikonasana?
>
> You>> "Like I said, I was measuring up, we're moving you see."
>
> Mob Guy>>"Moving eh? What about the Tadasana he saw you doin'?.....For
> five goddam minutes!"
>
> Puma>>"Er.. I was thinking... about the move...really hard.."
>
> Mob Guy>>"Thinking? THINKING! You were meditatin' you son of a XXXXX!"
>
> Sound of gun shots........
Puma & Yoga Police (banging on the door): Open, or we're a comin' in!
Stu: Just try it.
Puma & Yoga Police : Alright! We're comin' in.
Stu: Hey watch it.
Puma & Yoga Police : Is that Pilate's your doing?
Stu: No, this Reformer** thing is just a planter.
Yoga Police: Don't you know that Pilates was obtained illegally?
Puma (turning to camera): This is just the tip of the iceberg, I am
not going to stop until the rotting stench of Pilates is eradicated
from every berg and hamlet in this country!
**http://www.stretchnow.com.au/produc...s_products1.htm
> Don`t just say it from your
> mouth. Same time think on it a bit and check if it is feasible what you
>
> INT. HEALTH CLUB. Stu is practicing a few stretches when from the
> ceiling Puma and the Yoga Police drop in via cables.
Puma & Yoga Police: Hey, you! What do you think your doing?
Stu: Yoga
Puma & Yoga Police: No it isn't.
Stu: Sez who?
Puma & Yoga Police: Sez us. We decide what is yoga and what is not.
You are not qualified. In fact that is an unauthorized asana. Put
yours hands on the mat and spread 'em.
> You have got a lond way
> to learn these small things....Defending any unlegal action meams
>
>
> ....so you can download it
>
> Paul
>
> Couldn't help it, the frustrated screenwriter in me had to be heard.
--
~Stu
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| Paul H 2005-08-03, 8:54 am |
| <Snip>
[vbcol=seagreen]
Very nice mate, I was belly laughing at that :O)
I'll be Interested to see what puma comes back with. I hope he takes it in
the spirit it was meant.
:O)
Paul
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| Hi Paul,
Just to make you happy I came back.When things are distorted and made
quite different in shape we all laugh. So you are absolutely right to
do so.
To the question of yours "Is there a yoga mafia?" YES SIR There is a
yoga mafia... And it is a shame not to see it. In which YOGA STUDIO you
are taking yoga lessons on a FREE basis? Is there such a nce place? Or
you have millions of YOGA INSTRUCTORS each has a CERTIFICATE on his/her
hand obtained within a month or so....
And Bikram yoga or Iyengar yoga they all have a different aspect
embedded in the classical yoga by their own way.So non of them is
stolen,they are only enhanced versions of yoga.
So please try to see the facts . If one steals yoga asanas and without
giving any reference to them puts his name on it say MR.PLATES or
MR.COMINGOS, then can it be seen a clean act?
In yoga HONESTY is the main point as far as I see it...
I hope your interest has been satisfied by now.
With compassion,
Puma
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| Paul H 2005-08-05, 11:55 am |
|
> Just to make you happy I came back.When things are distorted and made
> quite different in shape we all laugh. So you are absolutely right to
> do so.
:O)
>
> To the question of yours "Is there a yoga mafia?" YES SIR There is a
> yoga mafia... And it is a shame not to see it. In which YOGA STUDIO you
> are taking yoga lessons on a FREE basis?
So do you believe a teacher should hire a hall, pay for it themselves, and
teach Yoga for free to complete strangers?! As you are so against paying a
teacher, please tell me how you believe it would be possible to provide free
Yoga teaching locally? On the NHS? Who pays for that? Of course you have to
pay to learn Yoga, to suggest otherwise is quite naive. However to practice
Yoga is entirely free. But it seems you feel both should be provided freely,
if so, how often do you teach complete strangers Yoga?
Is there such a nce place? Or
> you have millions of YOGA INSTRUCTORS each has a CERTIFICATE on his/her
> hand obtained within a month or so....
>
> And Bikram yoga or Iyengar yoga they all have a different aspect
> embedded in the classical yoga by their own way.So non of them is
> stolen,they are only enhanced versions of yoga.
But they came to be in much the same way that Pilates did. The original was
changed and rebranded. One you call enhanced, the other stolen, I see no
difference as I believe Yoga teaches us not to worry ourselves about such
things. ;o)
>
> So please try to see the facts . If one steals yoga asanas and without
> giving any reference to them puts his name on it say MR.PLATES or
> MR.COMINGOS, then can it be seen a clean act?
Dunno. Did B.K.S. Iyengar invent Utthita Trikonasana? Or did he take a
traditional asana and stick his name on it?
>
> In yoga HONESTY is the main point as far as I see it...
With ones self primarily.
>
> I hope your interest has been satisfied by now.
No.I am even more amazed at your outlandish claims.
> With compassion,
Right back to ya
> Puma
Paul
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| Dave ©¿©¬ 2005-08-05, 5:56 pm |
| "puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
news:1123244010.582855.103310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Paul,
>
> Just to make you happy I came back.When things are distorted and made
> quite different in shape we all laugh. So you are absolutely right to
> do so.
>
> To the question of yours "Is there a yoga mafia?" YES SIR There is a
> yoga mafia... And it is a shame not to see it. In which YOGA STUDIO you
> are taking yoga lessons on a FREE basis? Is there such a nce place? Or
> you have millions of YOGA INSTRUCTORS each has a CERTIFICATE on his/her
> hand obtained within a month or so....
>
> And Bikram yoga or Iyengar yoga they all have a different aspect
> embedded in the classical yoga by their own way.So non of them is
> stolen,they are only enhanced versions of yoga.
>
> So please try to see the facts . If one steals yoga asanas and without
> giving any reference to them puts his name on it say MR.PLATES or
> MR.COMINGOS, then can it be seen a clean act?
>
> In yoga HONESTY is the main point as far as I see it...
>
> I hope your interest has been satisfied by now.
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
>
Howdy Puma!
I get mine for "free" at the YMCA.
Unless you want to consider my YMCA membership fee as "paying for yoga."
Personally, I feel that my membership pays for my use of the pool, gym &
sauna. My Yoga and Tai Chi are free!
--
Namaste
Dave ©¿©
"Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum"
http://www.howdydave.com
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| Hi Paul,
Only people who are out of YOGA might name my claims as OUTLANDISH! As
a matter of fact, my sayings might become outlandish for out of yoga
people. Because they are at the side of YOGA-MAFIA.They surely defend
the MAFIA!!!
YOGA-MAFIA are the groups of teachers or instructors they have
certificates at their hands obtained within only one month of
study...They do not have any deep study or info regarding yoga...They
have fellowships, certificates,obtained from institutes of not related
to yoga at all!
And they are very good cheaters getting the money out of poor
believers!!!
In reality APARIGRAHA, in yoga, does not permit to get money or any
other collections for such an action. Because yoga is not a simple
atraction or entertainment or action!
These are the OUTLANDISH actions... A real yogi surely will see these
sharlatans` and it is his/her duty to warn the others who has no info
regarding yoga...
Lets talk about IYENGAR: every yoga student, I mean the real yoga
students,they know what makes IYENGARS` way of yoga . It is the( USE of
TOOLS) while performing ASANAS... This is his way,that is IYENGAR WAY.
If you do not know it,instead trying to defend The MAFIA here,please go
and search on IYENGAR WAY...And learn how IYENGAR inserted his name on
which ASANA or PRANAYAMA,or PRATYAHARA !!!Iyengar is an honest YOGI ,
surely for the people for which HONEST is very substantial!!!
With compassion,
Puma
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| Paul H 2005-08-08, 11:52 am |
|
"puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
news:1123365046.429068.280690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Paul,
>
> Only people who are out of YOGA might name my claims as OUTLANDISH! As
> a matter of fact, my sayings might become outlandish for out of yoga
> people. Because they are at the side of YOGA-MAFIA.They surely defend
> the MAFIA!!!
>
> YOGA-MAFIA are the groups of teachers or instructors they have
> certificates at their hands obtained within only one month of
> study...They do not have any deep study or info regarding yoga...They
> have fellowships, certificates,obtained from institutes of not related
> to yoga at all!
>
> And they are very good cheaters getting the money out of poor
> believers!!!
>
> In reality APARIGRAHA, in yoga, does not permit to get money or any
> other collections for such an action. Because yoga is not a simple
> atraction or entertainment or action!
>
> These are the OUTLANDISH actions... A real yogi surely will see these
> sharlatans` and it is his/her duty to warn the others who has no info
> regarding yoga...
>
> Lets talk about IYENGAR: every yoga student, I mean the real yoga
> students,they know what makes IYENGARS` way of yoga . It is the( USE of
> TOOLS) while performing ASANAS... This is his way,that is IYENGAR WAY.
> If you do not know it,instead trying to defend The MAFIA here,please go
> and search on IYENGAR WAY...And learn how IYENGAR inserted his name on
> which ASANA or PRANAYAMA,or PRATYAHARA !!!Iyengar is an honest YOGI ,
> surely for the people for which HONEST is very substantial!!!
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
>
Free Yoga...It's a nice thought, but I can't even get my eyes tested for
free, so why the hell should I expect someone to teach me Yoga for free?
People have to eat you know.
The human race is a progressive race, therefore we have to find room for old
*AND* new ideology. We could all sit on hilltops all day meditating, and be
a very chilled out, loving species, but after a few hundred years I think
we'd all be quite bored. We need to challenge ourselves. To progress and
reach the stars we need a progressive, motivated society, yes it's flawed,
(terribly so, going on current events) but expecting something for nothing
does not drive any species, look at nature for evidence of this.
I completely agree with you that there are most likely many Yoga teachers
who haven't got a clue, but that has nothing to do with paying for it. If a
teacher loves Yoga but has no aptitude for teaching, it doesn't matter if he
gets paid or not. I am not arguing the competence of teachers with you,
merely the right to earn a living.
If you start saying Yoga "INSISTS" that you abide by certain guidelines, or
one Yogi has a duty to Rat-out heretic Yogis, then YOU have missed the point
of Yoga my friend. As I have said before, Yoga is like religion without all
the bollocks. Why do you insist on this Yoga fundamentalism? There is no
hierarchy in Yoga.
Paul
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| Contradictions make no sense,if yoga is like a religion THERE MUST
CERTAINLY hierarchy in yoga,this hierarchy can be seen in the stages of
yoga;
1 - YAMA
2 - NIYAMA
3 - ASANA
4 - PRANAYAMA
5 - PRATYAHARA
6 - DHARANA
7 - DHYANA
8 - SAMADHI
As you see definitely there is a hierarchy in yoga, it is by PATANJALI.
If one deals with yoga this is the way. If you accept this being yoga
fundamentalism, it is your understanding. So it can be tolareted but
not acceptable.
With compassion,
Puma
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| Dave ©¿©¬ 2005-08-09, 9:04 am |
| "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message
news:w_OIe.3373$cg.1697@news02.roc.ny...
> "puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
> news:1123244010.582855.103310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Howdy Puma!
>
> I get mine for "free" at the YMCA.
>
> Unless you want to consider my YMCA membership fee as "paying for yoga."
>
> Personally, I feel that my membership pays for my use of the pool, gym &
> sauna. My Yoga and Tai Chi are free!
>
>
> --
> Namaste
>
> Dave ©¿©
> "Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum"
>
> http://www.howdydave.com
For those who brush this off just because "YMCA" is mentioned" let me say
that my instructor at the Y is a lot deeper into his yoga (he was taught in
India) than the people I've encountered who teach yoga for money !
--
Namaste
Dave ©¿©
"Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum"
http://www.howdydave.com
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| Paul H 2005-08-10, 5:57 pm |
|
> Contradictions make no sense,if yoga is like a religion THERE MUST
> CERTAINLY hierarchy in yoga,this hierarchy can be seen in the stages of
> yoga;
>
> 1 - YAMA
> 2 - NIYAMA
> 3 - ASANA
> 4 - PRANAYAMA
> 5 - PRATYAHARA
> 6 - DHARANA
> 7 - DHYANA
> 8 - SAMADHI
>
> As you see definitely there is a hierarchy in yoga, it is by PATANJALI.
> If one deals with yoga this is the way. If you accept this being yoga
> fundamentalism, it is your understanding. So it can be tolareted but
> not acceptable.
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
Sorry, I didn't explain myself very well, I meant there is no hierarchy of
people, no power structure or chain of command among Yogis.
Aside from that, you still haven't commented on the point I made that even
Yoga teachers need to eat, so why should they not charge?
Paul
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|
| On 2005-08-10 11:13:20 -0700, "Paul H" <nospam@nospam.com> said:
>
>
> Sorry, I didn't explain myself very well, I meant there is no hierarchy
> of people, no power structure or chain of command among Yogis.
>
> Aside from that, you still haven't commented on the point I made that
> even Yoga teachers need to eat, so why should they not charge?
>
> Paul
>
Actually, in India there was a system set up in ancient times that is
still around today. Much like the Catholic Church, there are official
"schools" with a lineage of Gurus. The Sankaracharya Order is such a
school. If your interested goggle will probably explain more.
In the past, wealthy Maharaja's would support these holy men. Under
British control much of this system broke down.
--
~Stu
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| Paul H 2005-08-12, 8:57 am |
|
"Stu" <Nospam@towel.com> wrote in message
news:2005081120555975249%Nospam@towelcom...
> On 2005-08-10 11:13:20 -0700, "Paul H" <nospam@nospam.com> said:
>
> Actually, in India there was a system set up in ancient times that is
> still around today. Much like the Catholic Church, there are official
> "schools" with a lineage of Gurus. The Sankaracharya Order is such a
> school. If your interested goggle will probably explain more.
>
> In the past, wealthy Maharaja's would support these holy men. Under
> British control much of this system broke down.
Bugger I wish I'd never been side tracked now!
:O)
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|
| Hi Paul,
You say "yoga teachers need to eat,so why should they not charge?"
But my dear friend, please remember that YOGA is not a PROFESSION!
If one wants to teach yoga to others,then he/she must do it by his/her
wish to teach not to get money over it!
For instance as DAVE says his yoga teacher does not get money from
students....
APARIGRAHA,
With compassion,
Puma
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| Paul H 2005-08-15, 9:05 am |
|
> Hi Paul,
>
> You say "yoga teachers need to eat,so why should they not charge?"
> But my dear friend, please remember that YOGA is not a PROFESSION!
> If one wants to teach yoga to others,then he/she must do it by his/her
> wish to teach not to get money over it!
>
> For instance as DAVE says his yoga teacher does not get money from
> students....
Or alternatively what about a person ho has a gift for teaching Yoga but
doesn't have the time to teach it because he has a demanding job and a
family to look after? Lets assume he has no time or energy left at the end
of the day to teach Yoga. Should the world be deprived of this mans gift
simply because a few people believe it is wrong for him to leave his current
job and teach Yoga for Money?
This is the kind of ideology and fundamentalism I have been talking about.
Wouldn't everyone benefit if this man where able to charge to teach Yoga? It
seems you would rather repress him.
Paul
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| omjaroo 2005-08-16, 5:56 pm |
| I'm thinking, anyone with no time or energy to teach yoga because of
work (life-style) could not attain a "gift" for teaching yoga. Also
that anyone that does in fact have a "gift" for teaching yoga would not
likely have a job (life-style) that wouldn't allow him to practice (or
teach) :-)
Jared
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| Paul H 2005-08-17, 8:56 am |
|
> I'm thinking, anyone with no time or energy to teach yoga because of
> work (life-style) could not attain a "gift" for teaching yoga. Also
> that anyone that does in fact have a "gift" for teaching yoga would not
> likely have a job (life-style) that wouldn't allow him to practice (or
> teach) :-)
>
> Jared
Some of the best sports coaches weren't very good sportsmen. Could the same
logic apply to Yoga?
Also, is it necessary to attain the highest echelon of Yogi greatness to be
capable of teaching the most basic Yoga principals to beginners?
If the answer to either of the above is yes, then I ask again, what is wrong
with charging to teach Yoga?
Paul
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| Shava_X 2005-08-17, 8:56 am |
| On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:13:30 -0700, puma wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Just to make you happy I came back.When things are distorted and made
> quite different in shape we all laugh. So you are absolutely right to
> do so.
>
> To the question of yours "Is there a yoga mafia?" YES SIR There is a
> yoga mafia... And it is a shame not to see it. In which YOGA STUDIO you
> are taking yoga lessons on a FREE basis? Is there such a nce place? Or
> you have millions of YOGA INSTRUCTORS each has a CERTIFICATE on his/her
> hand obtained within a month or so....
>
> And Bikram yoga or Iyengar yoga they all have a different aspect
> embedded in the classical yoga by their own way.So non of them is
> stolen,they are only enhanced versions of yoga.
>
> So please try to see the facts . If one steals yoga asanas and without
> giving any reference to them puts his name on it say MR.PLATES or
> MR.COMINGOS, then can it be seen a clean act?
>
> In yoga HONESTY is the main point as far as I see it...
>
> I hope your interest has been satisfied by now.
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma
If You are concerned that Pilates advocates are not acknowledging Yoga as
one source of whats makes up Pilates, You can relax. Every book i have
ever read on Pilates acknowledges that portions of taken from and/or
inspired by Yoga. Dance and gymnastic are also commonly noted as sources
from which Pilates was created. Yoga is most obvious as a source of
inspiration in 'beginner' classes and books. More advanced Pilates
programs resemble Yoga far less.
The Asanas are only part of Yoga (though every thing else is frequently
forgotten in the West). It could be argued that if a person only
practices the asanas, the person is not really practicing Yoga. From that
perspective, if all you want from it is the physical benefits, and are not
concerned with, or do not want, the spiritual and mystical aspects of
Yoga, it might be better to refer to as Pilates instead of Yoga. That way
it becomes clear that you are only interested in the one part, and not the
whole. But that is just one idea...
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| Dave ©¿©¬ 2005-08-18, 8:58 am |
| "Paul H" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Some of the best sports coaches weren't very good sportsmen. Could the
same
> logic apply to Yoga?
>
> Also, is it necessary to attain the highest echelon of Yogi greatness to
be
> capable of teaching the most basic Yoga principals to beginners?
>
> If the answer to either of the above is yes, then I ask again, what is
wrong
> with charging to teach Yoga?
>
> Paul
Howdy Paul!
I have my serious doubts...
Sports have specific rules and specific objectives that apply to everybody
who "plays the game."
Yoga on the other hand may have as many paths (unique sets of rules?) as
there are practitioners and, since everybody is different, everybody's
objectives can be different.
Not only that... in yoga one's objectives may tend to shift a bit "right in
the middle of the game!"
--
Namaste
Dave ©¿©
"Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum"
http://www.howdydave.com
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| hbkta@aol.com 2005-08-19, 9:01 am |
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Paul H wrote:
>
> Some of the best sports coaches weren't very good sportsmen. Could the same
> logic apply to Yoga?
>
> Also, is it necessary to attain the highest echelon of Yogi greatness to be
> capable of teaching the most basic Yoga principals to beginners?
>
> If the answer to either of the above is yes, then I ask again, what is wrong
> with charging to teach Yoga?
>
> Paul
Hi Paul,
I need cash up front before I answer any more of your questions
concerning yoga.
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| Paul H 2005-08-19, 9:01 am |
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> Paul H wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
> I need cash up front before I answer any more of your questions
> concerning yoga.
I would like to pay you myself, but I wouldn't want to subvert your
unorthodox supply chain.
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| hbkta@aol.com 2005-08-19, 5:59 pm |
| I guess it went over your head like a cruise missle.
you argue for treating yoga as a commodity, argue against teaching it
free of charge, and at the same time expect those who have spent
considerable time, effort and maybe $ developing their practice and
expertise to give you freebees.
you say one thing but act the opposite, what does that make you?
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| Paul H 2005-08-19, 5:59 pm |
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>I guess it went over your head like a cruise missle.
Not at all mate, that cruise missile was returning to base after parting
*your* hair!
> you argue for treating yoga as a commodity, argue against teaching it
> free of charge, and at the same time expect those who have spent
> considerable time, effort and maybe $ developing their practice and
> expertise to give you freebees.
We are having a discussion you nutcase.
> you say one thing but act the opposite, what does that make you?
Dunno......one of the voices in your head maybe?
Namaste, with a cherry on top!
P.S. I doubt omjaroo appreciates you shuffling up to him for support with
cryptic slants at me. Don't demean yourself with such antics. "Sour grapes"
indeed.
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| hbkta@aol.com 2005-08-20, 8:54 am |
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Paul H wrote:
>snip<
>
>
> We are having a discussion you nutcase.
>
>
So? what is your point?
the same principle applies.
you expect free access to the yoga knowledge those on the ng have
aquired.
>
> Dunno......
try looking it up in the dictionary. you brits invented the damn
language. learn how to use it.
>snip<.
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| hbkta@aol.com 2005-08-20, 8:54 am |
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Paul H wrote:
>snip<
> P.S. I doubt omjaroo appreciates you shuffling up to him for support with
> cryptic slants at me.
I am sure Omjaroo can speak for himself
> Don't demean yourself with such antics. "Sour grapes"
> indeed.
and I notice you do not deny the whisperings of the donut.
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| Paul H 2005-08-22, 5:53 pm |
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> Paul H wrote:
>
> So? what is your point?
Actually there were two points:
1. We are having a discussion, not a consultation, not a lesson, but a
discussion.
2. You are a nutcase.
>
> the same principle applies.
> you expect free access to the yoga knowledge those on the ng have
> aquired.
See point (1) above, although point (2) is also pertinent here.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> try looking it up in the dictionary. you brits invented the damn
> language. learn how to use it.
>
Strike Two! As if cryptic pops at me weren't enough, you now resort to
chopping single words out of a sentence to derive your own new meaning.
Please print out point (2) above and take it to your headmaster immediately.
While your there, you might want to ask him if he to has a dictionary; look
up irony.
Paul
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| Paul H 2005-08-22, 5:53 pm |
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> Paul H wrote:
>
>
> I am sure Omjaroo can speak for himself
>
>
> and I notice you do not deny the whisperings of the donut.
OK, I'll humour you. I have been practicing Yoga since April this year, I am
self employed, I work in I.T. and have no intention of becoming a Yoga
teacher.
Now stop referring to yourself as a donut.
Paul
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| hbkta@aol.com 2005-08-22, 10:54 pm |
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Paul H wrote:
> <hbkta@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Actually there were two points:
> 1. We are having a discussion, not a consultation, not a lesson, but a
> discussion.
>sseems to me to be merely a difference in degree
> 2. You are a nutcase.
>
is that a fact or subjective evaluation?
>
>
> See point (1) above, although point (2) is also pertinent here.
>
>
>
>snip<
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