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| absonusum@hotmail.com 2005-05-02, 8:54 am |
| I believe that I have recently activated my head chakra, but I know
next to nothing about kundalini. I was wondering if anyone could direct
me to good texts about controlling and activating chakras. I've been
practicing meditation for a few months now with small amounts of yoga
mixed in. I feel a throbbing in my forehead and between the eyes
usually when I'm in deep contemplation but about 5 days ago I had an
much more intense effect. Since then I've felt it for the better part
of every day. If anyone has gone through this before some help would be
greatly appreciated.
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| On 2005-05-02 00:03:58 -0700, "absonusum@hotmail.com"
<absonusum@hotmail.com> said:
> I believe that I have recently activated my head chakra, but I know
> next to nothing about kundalini.
> I was wondering if anyone could direct
> me to good texts about controlling and activating chakras. I've been
> practicing meditation for a few months now with small amounts of yoga
> mixed in. I feel a throbbing in my forehead and between the eyes
> usually when I'm in deep contemplation but about 5 days ago I had an
> much more intense effect. Since then I've felt it for the better part
> of every day. If anyone has gone through this before some help would be
> greatly appreciated.
It sounds to me like you are straining. Throbbing can come from working
too hard at concentration. The flow of kundalini and the opening of
chakras has the qualities of freedom and love.
Meditation should be a gentle practice. If you are in any way "trying"
to do it - you are not doing it right. Sometimes the activity of
meditation is called effortless effort.
I suggest you look for a meditation teacher in your area that can get
you started with good one on one advice.
--
~Stu
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| omjaram 2005-05-03, 10:56 pm |
| I just ran across this site and found a great deal of useful
information.
http://kundalini-teacher.com/
I am not trying to raise kundalini but I have had spontaneous movement
similar to what you describe and the information on this site was very
useful in identifying related symptoms and providing encouraging
advise.
Based on advice of more then one author whom I respect, I specifically
do not to try to raise kundalini in my practice of yoga. I won't
until I am being guided by a knowledgeable and experienced guru. In the
mean time I will do what I can to prepare for it's eventual
expression by cleansing and strengthening the body, mind and spirit. In
my case fear, resistance and the lack of self control, are the biggest
impediments to the easy, natural flow of life force. It is my belief
the same personal traits that makes one anxious to raise kundalini are
the same ones that lead to the negative effects you read about.
I would recommend very highly against the casual or haphazard dabbling
with kundalini raising techniques. I would recommend getting and
keeping yourself straight with yourself, humanity and God (or whatever
you prefer to call "The Force" Avoid preoccupation with psychic,
astral and other material phenomenon as these are/were never the point.
Namaste
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| On 2005-05-03 19:51:29 -0700, "omjaram" <omjaroo@yahoo.com> said:
> I just ran across this site and found a great deal of useful
> information.
>
> http://kundalini-teacher.com/
>
> I am not trying to raise kundalini but I have had spontaneous movement
> similar to what you describe and the information on this site was very
> useful in identifying related symptoms and providing encouraging
> advise.
>
> Based on advice of more then one author whom I respect, I specifically
> do not to try to raise kundalini in my practice of yoga.
By simply practicing yoga you are "raising kundalini". Kundalini is
another word for "energy flow". Shakti is also used for the same
thing. There is not metaphysical magic to raising kundalini. Jared -
from reading your posts I would say that your general lifestyle is an
expression of your strong personal kundalini. I can see it in your
writing. I am surprised you don't recognize it in your meditation.
> I won't
> until I am being guided by a knowledgeable and experienced guru.
As I said, you appear to have an excellent inner guru working for you.
That is the power of shakti.
It will lead you on the true path.
> In the
> mean time I will do what I can to prepare for it's eventual
> expression by cleansing and strengthening the body, mind and spirit. In
> my case fear, resistance and the lack of self control, are the biggest
> impediments to the easy, natural flow of life force. It is my belief
> the same personal traits that makes one anxious to raise kundalini are
> the same ones that lead to the negative effects you read about.
>
> I would recommend very highly against the casual or haphazard dabbling
> with kundalini raising techniques. I would recommend getting and
> keeping yourself straight with yourself, humanity and God (or whatever
> you prefer to call "The Force" Avoid preoccupation with psychic,
> astral and other material phenomenon as these are/were never the point.
>
> Namaste
Sound advice. Take it slow, take it easy. Effortless effort. The
energy is a natural result of staying the course.
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~Stu
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| omjaram 2005-05-06, 9:20 am |
| Stu,
Nice to hear from you. Thank you for the kind and supportive comments.
guru.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>As I said, you appear to have an excellent inner guru working for you.
>That is the power of shakti.
Hittleman, Yogananda, Vivekananda, Vishnudevandanda, Sivananda,
Rajneesh, Emmet Fox; my inner guru is getting lots of help from some
really, really good outer gurus :-)
>There is not metaphysical magic to raising kundalini.
There are however some very esoteric and arcane techniques for raising
kundalini. They require a great deal of, training, practice and
discipline to apply and they are kept obscure for a reason. Kundalini
is thought by some to be the most powerful force in the universe.
Playing with it is a well known hazard ;-) I don't work with
electricity without knowing what I am doing or unless I know for a fact
the circuit is de-energized. }:-{{{
>Jared - from reading your posts I would say that your general
lifestyle is an
>expression of your strong personal kundalini. I can see it in your
>writing.
Thanks for saying so. Can you give me an example?
>I am surprised you don't recognize it in your meditation.
I can only wish for that, at the moment. As I have shared in the past,
the ability (self-discipline) required to meditate has eluded me for
years. Not only is sitting a form or physical and psychic torture for
me but when I am able to, I become terrified as I reach what feels like
the "edge". It's only been recently, since I stopped eating meat,
that I have been able to take up meditation in earnest. After 20-30
minutes of stretching/relaxation I can sit for a solid 10-20 minutes.
Afterwards if I can manage some sun salutations then I may have the
energy to start the day. Often I will lay down and sleep for 30 minutes
to a couple of hours.
It's funny, a couple of years ago I took to flying in my dreams. At
first this scared me because I had no control of it and sometimes I
would get real high and as I started to fall (fly) towards the ground I
would wake myself up. As this happens more and more I have learned to
try and control my flying and let go of the fear of hitting the ground.
The other day as I was meditating, I felt a sudden rush of energy
throughout my whole body from below and up through my head. It felt
just like in the dream, as if I was going to take off flying and I was
like OK, I'm ready, let's go... but the energy quickly peaked and
gently retreated and that was it. I just feel like one of these days
it's not going to retreat and I would like to be able to let go and
flow with it. They say you only get in trouble if you resist or try and
stop it. So this has been motivating me to take up Hatha again, basic
preparatory pranayama and concentration/meditation. There may be a time
soon when I seek support and/or guidance from the Self Realization
Fellowship (with whom I study) and perhaps spend some time in one of
their ashrams. I still have kids I need to care for so this will be a
few years off if things go by my plans/intentions.
In the mean time, I am ever so steadily losing my fear of death;
alcohol appears to be a thing of the past and stage II celibacy is now
a probability. So I have managed very well without a physical guru or
teacher by reading, thinking, studying, observing and hanging out in
alt.yoga :-)
Jared
Namaste
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| On 2005-05-05 21:28:55 -0700, "omjaram" <omjaroo@yahoo.com> said:
> Stu,
>
> Nice to hear from you. Thank you for the kind and supportive comments.
>
> guru.
>
>
>
> Hittleman, Yogananda, Vivekananda, Vishnudevandanda, Sivananda,
> Rajneesh, Emmet Fox; my inner guru is getting lots of help from some
> really, really good outer gurus :-)
>
>
> There are however some very esoteric and arcane techniques for raising
> kundalini. They require a great deal of, training, practice and
> discipline to apply and they are kept obscure for a reason. Kundalini
> is thought by some to be the most powerful force in the universe.
> Playing with it is a well known hazard ;-) I don't work with
> electricity without knowing what I am doing or unless I know for a fact
> the circuit is de-energized. }:-{{{
>
> lifestyle is an
>
> Thanks for saying so. Can you give me an example?
>
>
> I can only wish for that, at the moment. As I have shared in the past,
> the ability (self-discipline) required to meditate has eluded me for
> years. Not only is sitting a form or physical and psychic torture for
> me but when I am able to, I become terrified as I reach what feels like
> the "edge". It's only been recently, since I stopped eating meat,
> that I have been able to take up meditation in earnest. After 20-30
> minutes of stretching/relaxation I can sit for a solid 10-20 minutes.
> Afterwards if I can manage some sun salutations then I may have the
> energy to start the day. Often I will lay down and sleep for 30 minutes
> to a couple of hours.
>
> It's funny, a couple of years ago I took to flying in my dreams. At
> first this scared me because I had no control of it and sometimes I
> would get real high and as I started to fall (fly) towards the ground I
> would wake myself up. As this happens more and more I have learned to
> try and control my flying and let go of the fear of hitting the ground.
>
>
> The other day as I was meditating, I felt a sudden rush of energy
> throughout my whole body from below and up through my head. It felt
> just like in the dream, as if I was going to take off flying and I was
> like OK, I'm ready, let's go... but the energy quickly peaked and
> gently retreated and that was it. I just feel like one of these days
> it's not going to retreat and I would like to be able to let go and
> flow with it. They say you only get in trouble if you resist or try and
> stop it. So this has been motivating me to take up Hatha again, basic
> preparatory pranayama and concentration/meditation. There may be a time
> soon when I seek support and/or guidance from the Self Realization
> Fellowship (with whom I study) and perhaps spend some time in one of
> their ashrams. I still have kids I need to care for so this will be a
> few years off if things go by my plans/intentions.
>
> In the mean time, I am ever so steadily losing my fear of death;
> alcohol appears to be a thing of the past and stage II celibacy is now
> a probability. So I have managed very well without a physical guru or
> teacher by reading, thinking, studying, observing and hanging out in
> alt.yoga :-)
>
> Jared
>
> Namaste
You wanted an example. Read the above. It is filled with sincere,
honest intention to find light where there is darkness. That is an
expression of shakti/kundalini in your consciousness.
When you are feeling that sitting is torture, find a way to accept the
torture. Set a time like 18 minutes and make it a goal to get through.
Eventually, the mind will settle, and bliss will come.
I had a small breakthrough last weekend. I was struggling with a
strange sensation in meditation. I would start the mantra and this
sensation would come. I would back off and it would go away. I was
not sure if I should try and "work through it". This weekend I found
the key was in acceptance. After this understanding the "struggle"
melted away.
--
~Stu
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| omjaram 2005-05-06, 9:20 am |
| Stu,
>You wanted an example. Read the above. It is filled with sincere,
>honest intention to find light where there is darkness. That is an
>expression of shakti/kundalini in your consciousness.
Thanks. I understand.
>When you are feeling that sitting is torture, find a way to accept the
>torture. Set a time like 18 minutes and make it a goal to get
through.
>Eventually, the mind will settle, and bliss will come.
It's not as bad as it once was. Just the same I think you are right,
it is time to add a measure of discipline to the time I spend. 18
Minutes is doable.
>I had a small breakthrough last weekend. I was struggling with a
>strange sensation in meditation. I would start the mantra and this
>sensation would come. I would back off and it would go away. I was
>not sure if I should try and "work through it". This weekend I found
>the key was in acceptance. After this understanding the "struggle"
>melted away.
"Resistance is futile", the Borg.
One of my favorite sayings. Also mentioned by the gal who does the
kundaliniteacher.com site. That was a big plus for me.
Namaste
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