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| Isreom-Ishov Satguruyogiprabhu 2005-04-29, 10:58 pm |
| This site contains a lot of data that can help one embrace what is going on
right now with the planet. Check out the links at the bottom of the site for
real soul evolutionary data.
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| On 2005-04-29 19:51:02 -0700, "Isreom-Ishov Satguruyogiprabhu"
<jnanda@earthlink.net> said:
> This site contains a lot of data that can help one embrace what is
> going on right now with the planet. Check out the links at the bottom
> of the site for real soul evolutionary data.
I noticed there is a symbol on the site that embraces all the worlds
top religions. How do you resolve the intrinsic philosophical
differences between your form of non-dualism and the monotheistic
traditions that do not allow for absorption in god? For example the
new Pope Benedict, has been quoted as comparing meditation as a form of
auto eroticism. He warns Catholics to stay away from such practices as
they are in direct conflict with the very foundations of Christianity.
> http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-religion/800595/posts
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> Q: Given the present quest for spirituality, many people take recourse
> to transcendental meditation. What difference is there between
> transcendental meditation and Christian meditation?
>
> Cardinal Ratzinger: In a few words, I would say what is essential of
> transcendental meditation is that man divests himself of his own "I";
> he unites with the universal essence of the world; therefore, he
> remains a bit depersonalized.
>
> In Christian meditation, on the contrary, I do not lose my
> personality; I enter a personal relation with the person of Christ. I
> enter into relation with the "you" of Christ, and in this way this "I"
> is not lost; it maintains its identity and responsibility.
>
> At the same time it opens, enters a more profound unity, which is the
> unity of love that does not destroy. Therefore, in a few words, I
> would say, simplifying a bit, that transcendental meditation is
> impersonal and, in this sense, "depersonalizing." Christian
> meditation, meanwhile, is "personalizing" and opens to a profound
> union that is born of love and not of the dissolution of the "I."
>
Or if you don't like that example, imagine professing your position on
yoga to a Muslim. According to the Holly Qur'an your stated theologic
position would be enough to sentence you to death for heresy.
By placing all the world religions in one circle you are doing them a
great disservice by suggesting that they are all variations of a
monochromatic palate, rather than acknowledging their subtle and
powerful differences that speaks to many cultures and peoples with very
profoundly different spiritual needs.
--
~Stu
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| The Elf 2005-05-01, 8:51 am |
| Ciao * Stu * come va? Un uccellino mi ha detto che invece di visitare
www.inzona.com hai scritto...
> ....
> For example the
> new Pope Benedict, has been quoted as comparing meditation as a form
> of auto eroticism. He warns Catholics to stay away from such
> practices as they are in direct conflict with the very foundations of
> Christianity.
When did he say that?
Have you a link to show me to make me read his words?
--
Andrea
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| On 2005-05-01 00:59:43 -0700, "The Elf" <cont@tti_romanelmondo.it> said:
> Ciao * Stu * come va? Un uccellino mi ha detto che invece di visitare
> www.inzona.com hai scritto...
>
> When did he say that?
> Have you a link to show me to make me read his words?
http://www.letemps.ch/template/print.asp?article=154130
En 1986, lors d'un congrès international sur la musique sacrée, il
fustigea la musique rock, qualifiée d'«arme antireligieuse» et
d'«antithèse de la foi chrétienne»
"En 1997, il attaqua le bouddhisme avec la même violence, y voyant
«une spiritualité auto-érotique, qui cherche la transcendance sans
imposer d'obligations religieuses»."
My translation:
In 1986, at the time of an international congress on the sacred music,
He savagely criticized the rock music, calling it an "anti-religious
army" and the "antitheses of the Christian faith ".
In 1997, He attacked Buddhism with the same force, he sees "An
auto-erotic spirituality in those who seek transcendence without
imposing religious requirement.
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~Stu
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| Ole Kvaal 2005-05-02, 8:54 am |
| Stu wrote:
> not allow for absorption in god? For example the new Pope Benedict, has
> been quoted as comparing meditation as a form of auto eroticism. He
To be more precise, his statement (from 1997) was about Buddhism, not
meditation in general. He also declared Buddhism a bigger threat to
Christianity than Marxism.. . . . . . . . .
ole k
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| On 2005-05-02 00:45:32 -0700, "The Elf" <cont@tti_romanelmondo.it> said:
> Ciao * Stu * come va? Un uccellino mi ha detto che invece di visitare
> www.inzona.com hai scritto...
>
> I've found online many articles as
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...show/1083648.cm
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-religion/800595/posts
Q: Given the present quest for spirituality, many people take recourse
to transcendental meditation. What difference is there between
transcendental meditation and Christian meditation?
Cardinal Ratzinger: In a few words, I would say what is essential of
transcendental meditation is that man divests himself of his own "I";
he unites with the universal essence of the world; therefore, he
remains a bit depersonalized.
In Christian meditation, on the contrary, I do not lose my
personality; I enter a personal relation with the person of Christ. I
enter into relation with the "you" of Christ, and in this way this "I"
is not lost; it maintains its identity and responsibility.
At the same time it opens, enters a more profound unity, which is the
unity of love that does not destroy. Therefore, in a few words, I
would say, simplifying a bit, that transcendental meditation is
impersonal and, in this sense, "depersonalizing." Christian
meditation, meanwhile, is "personalizing" and opens to a profound
union that is born of love and not of the dissolution of the "I."
--
~Stu
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| The Elf 2005-05-04, 9:02 am |
| * Stu * wrote:
>
> http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-religion/800595/posts
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> Q: Given the present quest for spirituality, many people take recourse
> to transcendental meditation. What difference is there between
> transcendental meditation and Christian meditation?
>
> Cardinal Ratzinger: In a few words, I would say what is essential of
> transcendental meditation is that man divests himself of his own "I";
> he unites with the universal essence of the world; therefore, he
> remains a bit depersonalized.
>
> In Christian meditation, on the contrary, I do not lose my
> personality; I enter a personal relation with the person of Christ.
What did u expect from the Pope....the man on the earth closer (he should
be) to the idea of Christ?
--
Andrea
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| On 2005-05-03 23:41:17 -0700, "The Elf" <cont@tti_romanelmondo.it> said:
> * Stu * wrote:
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> What did u expect from the Pope....the man on the earth closer (he
> should be) to the idea of Christ?
Exactly. My original post was pointing out that there is no way to
reconcile the profound ontological differences between Christianity and
Eastern non-dual religions (Buddhism and Hinduism).
And although Hinduism manages to reconcile the two by misinterpreting
Christianity. Christianity sees no reconciliation. It is the one true
way.
I was asking the www.4yogasoflife.com how he could reconcile the two.
He never did respond.
--
~Stu
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| On 2005-04-29 19:51:02 -0700, "Isreom-Ishov Satguruyogiprabhu"
<jnanda@earthlink.net> said:
> This site contains a lot of data that can help one embrace what is
> going on right now with the planet. Check out the links at the bottom
> of the site for real soul evolutionary data.
I noticed there is a symbol on the site that embraces all the worlds
top religions. How do you resolve the intrinsic philosophical
differences between your form of non-dualism and the monotheistic
traditions that do not allow for absorption in god? For example the
new Pope Benedict, has been quoted as comparing meditation as a form of
auto eroticism. He warns Catholics to stay away from such practices as
they are in direct conflict with the very foundations of Christianity.
> http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-religion/800595/posts
>
> Q: Given the present quest for spirituality, many people take recourse
> to transcendental meditation. What difference is there between
> transcendental meditation and Christian meditation?
>
> Cardinal Ratzinger: In a few words, I would say what is essential of
> transcendental meditation is that man divests himself of his own "I";
> he unites with the universal essence of the world; therefore, he
> remains a bit depersonalized.
>
> In Christian meditation, on the contrary, I do not lose my
> personality; I enter a personal relation with the person of Christ. I
> enter into relation with the "you" of Christ, and in this way this "I"
> is not lost; it maintains its identity and responsibility.
>
> At the same time it opens, enters a more profound unity, which is the
> unity of love that does not destroy. Therefore, in a few words, I
> would say, simplifying a bit, that transcendental meditation is
> impersonal and, in this sense, "depersonalizing." Christian
> meditation, meanwhile, is "personalizing" and opens to a profound
> union that is born of love and not of the dissolution of the "I."
>
Or if you don't like that example, imagine professing your position on
yoga to a Muslim. According to the Holly Qur'an your stated theologic
position would be enough to sentence you to death for heresy.
By placing all the world religions in one circle you are doing them a
great disservice by suggesting that they are all variations of a
monochromatic palate, rather than acknowledging their subtle and
powerful differences that speaks to many cultures and peoples with very
profoundly different spiritual needs.
--
~Stu
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| The Elf 2005-05-05, 5:59 pm |
| Ciao * Stu * come va? Un uccellino mi ha detto che invece di visitare
www.inzona.com hai scritto...
> ....
> For example the
> new Pope Benedict, has been quoted as comparing meditation as a form
> of auto eroticism. He warns Catholics to stay away from such
> practices as they are in direct conflict with the very foundations of
> Christianity.
When did he say that?
Have you a link to show me to make me read his words?
--
Andrea
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| Ole Kvaal 2005-05-06, 9:20 am |
| Stu wrote:
> not allow for absorption in god? For example the new Pope Benedict, has
> been quoted as comparing meditation as a form of auto eroticism. He
To be more precise, his statement (from 1997) was about Buddhism, not
meditation in general. He also declared Buddhism a bigger threat to
Christianity than Marxism.. . . . . . . . .
ole k
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| Isreom-Ishov Satguruyogiprabhu 2005-05-06, 9:20 am |
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Meditation Technique for ALL
Sit in a chair with your spine straight and your feet flat on the floor.
Place your tongue on the roof of your mouth touching the back of your top
teeth. Focus your eyes on your minds eye. Place both hands on your heart
chakra hand on top of hand - take deep diaphragmatic breaths relaxing on the
exhale. Recite slowly in the mind the word love or the tone Aum or your
favorite name of the Divine over and over again. Do this when you first get
up for 20 minutes and again before you go to bed.
Do this not for self, do this for the highest greatest good God of all. Do
this with devotion of by and for the Divine. Do this for 21 days with
sincerity and during that time period I will visit you with one of my light
, etheric bodies and give you an initiation into the 4 main yoga's, along
with a tune up, of your 4 lower bodies.
Lots of good fortune to you.
You may call me Jnanda or Guruji.
Namaste'
Forever in service,
Namaste'
ISREOM ISHOV
SATGURUYOGIPRABHU
Jnanda Moksha Brahmananda
"Ole Kvaal" <okvaal@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Stu wrote:
>
>
> To be more precise, his statement (from 1997) was about Buddhism, not
> meditation in general. He also declared Buddhism a bigger threat to
> Christianity than Marxism.. . . . . . . . .
>
>
> ole k
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| The Elf 2005-05-06, 10:51 pm |
| * Stu * wrote:
>
> http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-religion/800595/posts
>
> Q: Given the present quest for spirituality, many people take recourse
> to transcendental meditation. What difference is there between
> transcendental meditation and Christian meditation?
>
> Cardinal Ratzinger: In a few words, I would say what is essential of
> transcendental meditation is that man divests himself of his own "I";
> he unites with the universal essence of the world; therefore, he
> remains a bit depersonalized.
>
> In Christian meditation, on the contrary, I do not lose my
> personality; I enter a personal relation with the person of Christ.
What did u expect from the Pope....the man on the earth closer (he should
be) to the idea of Christ?
--
Andrea
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