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| Brilliant persons do not push young people into the drugs. And
brilliant persons do not lie!!
Brilliant persons honestly pay their taxes where they get their money!!
So to be brilliant takes to be a good citizen!!
With compassion,
Puma
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"puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
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> Brilliant persons do not push young people into the drugs. And
> brilliant persons do not lie!!
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he did not. those young people wanted to do drugs.
> Brilliant persons honestly pay their taxes where they get their money!!
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this is funny. the govt has so many laws it can get almost everyone behind
bars. almost 1% of american population is in prison.
in fact it is the most respected citizens who evade
taxes. because they wrote the laws to suite themselves.
> So to be brilliant takes to be a good citizen!!
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he was a good citizen. he just pissed off powerful
people because unlike the other jokers the hippies
were listening to, he had substance.
he paid the price for it. he could easily have become
part of the establishment.
that would have been dishonesty and corruption.
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| calderhome@yahoo.com 2005-04-30, 8:54 am |
| Osho-Rajneesh never publicly told his disciples to take drugs, but he
himself probably inhaled more nitrous oxide than any other human being
in the history of the world. Osho lied, he didn't speak the truth, and
his teachings were false. His words are still out there misguiding and
misrepresenting fact, and that is why I speak up. He continues to
point people in the wrong direction even after his death.
Osho people today are like gullible investors who buy swamp land in a
real estate scam. They are so naive that even after the scammers are
put in jail and the scam is exposed, they continue sending in their
monthly mortgage checks for the swamp land as if nothing has happened.
People want false dreams, and even when they are faced with truth they
still prefer the falsehood, because fiction often makes people
euphoric. The price is that when you embrace falsehood you behave
foolishly and in the end your investment in lies never really pays off.
How can it? You built your home on a swamp and it is bound to sink!
Christopher Calder - http://home.att.net/~meditation/
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rajneesh has hardly any practical teachings. most of his
stuff is general guidance and commentaries on other mystics.
fools will be fools, and they will complain like hell, whether they
are taught by an idiot or by einstein. they'll draw their own
conclusions no matter what.
life is not black and white. it is always in shades. it is upto
the person to pick up what is beneficial to her. what is
beneficial to one could be poison for another. that is
because human nature varies. there is no perfect teaching.
even the buddha's "gem" of a teaching led to distortions after his
death.
rajneesh's teaching was radical, but so were his students, who
were mostly hippies wanting a "trip". the students are mostly
damaged goods before they reached a teacher. so they draw
the conclusions that they have been fantasizing about.
for the record, i don't belong to the hippie generation. i have
met a couple of hippies. most have the same story. had
a whale of a time. abandoned kids. and now pretend to
be floating in ecstasy. the slightest threat to their easy
lfe, and they'll blow up. their kids are the tragic part. a lot
of them are distorted by abandonment, some are even in
institutions.
what is cool about hippies is their total rejection of any
responsibility. they want the goods but don't want to
pay the bills.
among the modern teachers, hardly any has as much brilliance
and compassion as he.
any student who thinks any teacher is a perfected angel
is going to be mistaken. the student's job is to understand
and then move on. try to stick to anything and you are
asking for trouble.
you want a perfect angel? be one yourself coz there
sure ain't any on this planet.
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| calderhome@yahoo.com 2005-04-30, 5:53 pm |
| Osho had ambition, not compassion. If he had real compassion he would
have done his best to tell his students the truth, not invent every
kind of lie to stay on top. If he had compassion he would not have
turned thousands of people into mental slaves, which he enjoyed doing.
His teachings were based on lies of reincarnation, souls, and his own
great past life history as a great teacher. It was all false and made
up. He had no past lives, and no one does.
Osho was a fool who led others fools. He had a gift of meditations but
his actions were corrupt from beginning to end. What is meditation
worth? It is experiential but, like taking LSD, it has no real
benefit. There is no "enlightenment" that brings infinite wisdom any
more than taking LSD gives people infinite wisdom. There is no
"spiritual trip," it is all brain electrics. He took advantage of his
own unique brain structure to use his power to control others. His
teaching was designed to give himself wealth and personal power, not to
tell the truth.
see: http://home.att.net/~meditation/soul.html
Christopher Calder http://home.att.net/~meditation/ - home page
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<calderhome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Osho had ambition, not compassion. If he had real compassion he would
> have done his best to tell his students the truth, not invent every
> kind of lie to stay on top. If he had compassion he would not have
> turned thousands of people into mental slaves, which he enjoyed doing.
this is the thing with the hippies. they wanted to become irresponsible
because their trip was irresponsibility. so they hitched onto one
or other teacher and transfer responsibility to him/her.
or voluntary slavery.
> His teachings were based on lies of reincarnation, souls, and his own
> great past life history as a great teacher. It was all false and made
> up. He had no past lives, and no one does.
>
how do you _know_?
all one can say in the face of all this is "i don't know".
> Osho was a fool who led others fools. He had a gift of meditations but
i doubt he was a fool, but those he led certainly seem to have been.
> his actions were corrupt from beginning to end. What is meditation
> worth? It is experiential but, like taking LSD, it has no real
what is anything worth? that depends on the person, obviously?
people would kill to be the place the buddha was in, but he
walked away from the palace.
one size does not fit all, you see.
whether there is something called enlightenment or not i don't know,
but there is peacefulness, compassion, responsibility and spontaneous love.
for me that is enough.
> teaching was designed to give himself wealth and personal power, not to
> tell the truth.
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what is the truth?
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| calderhome@yahoo.com 2005-04-30, 5:53 pm |
| In his last years Osho admitted that there was no reincarnation. His
drug taking on some days worked as a kind of truth serum. He also
admitted on drugs that there was no "enlightenment". He himself thus
admitted that his entire teaching was false and a lie. His own selfish
and self-destructive behavior showed he had no wisdom. Eastern
mysticism is all hype.
I meditate at least three times a day, but I do not claim it makes me
wise or holly. Meditation is a way to feel better and know
peacefulness, but that's it. All the rest is just a con job.
Krishnamurti, Meher Baba, and all the famous teachers were just people.
None could walk on water. Some, like Meher Baba, were full of beans
and spouted nonsense and lies. J Krishnamurti was more honest, but
neither men were saints. You are still human no matter what you do,
and meditation really does not change life, only the way we perceive
it.
see: http://home.att.net/~meditation/MeditationHandbook.html
Christopher Calder
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rajneesh has hardly any practical teachings. most of his
stuff is general guidance and commentaries on other mystics.
fools will be fools, and they will complain like hell, whether they
are taught by an idiot or by einstein. they'll draw their own
conclusions no matter what.
life is not black and white. it is always in shades. it is upto
the person to pick up what is beneficial to her. what is
beneficial to one could be poison for another. that is
because human nature varies. there is no perfect teaching.
even the buddha's "gem" of a teaching led to distortions after his
death.
rajneesh's teaching was radical, but so were his students, who
were mostly hippies wanting a "trip". the students are mostly
damaged goods before they reached a teacher. so they draw
the conclusions that they have been fantasizing about.
for the record, i don't belong to the hippie generation. i have
met a couple of hippies. most have the same story. had
a whale of a time. abandoned kids. and now pretend to
be floating in ecstasy. the slightest threat to their easy
lfe, and they'll blow up. their kids are the tragic part. a lot
of them are distorted by abandonment, some are even in
institutions.
what is cool about hippies is their total rejection of any
responsibility. they want the goods but don't want to
pay the bills.
among the modern teachers, hardly any has as much brilliance
and compassion as he.
any student who thinks any teacher is a perfected angel
is going to be mistaken. the student's job is to understand
and then move on. try to stick to anything and you are
asking for trouble.
you want a perfect angel? be one yourself coz there
sure ain't any on this planet.
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| calderhome@yahoo.com 2005-05-02, 10:54 pm |
| Osho-Rajneesh never publicly told his disciples to take drugs, but he
himself probably inhaled more nitrous oxide than any other human being
in the history of the world. Osho lied, he didn't speak the truth, and
his teachings were false. His words are still out there misguiding and
misrepresenting fact, and that is why I speak up. He continues to
point people in the wrong direction even after his death.
Osho people today are like gullible investors who buy swamp land in a
real estate scam. They are so naive that even after the scammers are
put in jail and the scam is exposed, they continue sending in their
monthly mortgage checks for the swamp land as if nothing has happened.
People want false dreams, and even when they are faced with truth they
still prefer the falsehood, because fiction often makes people
euphoric. The price is that when you embrace falsehood you behave
foolishly and in the end your investment in lies never really pays off.
How can it? You built your home on a swamp and it is bound to sink!
Christopher Calder - http://home.att.net/~meditation/
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| calderhome@yahoo.com 2005-05-02, 10:54 pm |
| Osho had ambition, not compassion. If he had real compassion he would
have done his best to tell his students the truth, not invent every
kind of lie to stay on top. If he had compassion he would not have
turned thousands of people into mental slaves, which he enjoyed doing.
His teachings were based on lies of reincarnation, souls, and his own
great past life history as a great teacher. It was all false and made
up. He had no past lives, and no one does.
Osho was a fool who led others fools. He had a gift of meditations but
his actions were corrupt from beginning to end. What is meditation
worth? It is experiential but, like taking LSD, it has no real
benefit. There is no "enlightenment" that brings infinite wisdom any
more than taking LSD gives people infinite wisdom. There is no
"spiritual trip," it is all brain electrics. He took advantage of his
own unique brain structure to use his power to control others. His
teaching was designed to give himself wealth and personal power, not to
tell the truth.
see: http://home.att.net/~meditation/soul.html
Christopher Calder http://home.att.net/~meditation/ - home page
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<calderhome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114885853.398917.35860@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Osho had ambition, not compassion. If he had real compassion he would
> have done his best to tell his students the truth, not invent every
> kind of lie to stay on top. If he had compassion he would not have
> turned thousands of people into mental slaves, which he enjoyed doing.
this is the thing with the hippies. they wanted to become irresponsible
because their trip was irresponsibility. so they hitched onto one
or other teacher and transfer responsibility to him/her.
or voluntary slavery.
> His teachings were based on lies of reincarnation, souls, and his own
> great past life history as a great teacher. It was all false and made
> up. He had no past lives, and no one does.
>
how do you _know_?
all one can say in the face of all this is "i don't know".
> Osho was a fool who led others fools. He had a gift of meditations but
i doubt he was a fool, but those he led certainly seem to have been.
> his actions were corrupt from beginning to end. What is meditation
> worth? It is experiential but, like taking LSD, it has no real
what is anything worth? that depends on the person, obviously?
people would kill to be the place the buddha was in, but he
walked away from the palace.
one size does not fit all, you see.
whether there is something called enlightenment or not i don't know,
but there is peacefulness, compassion, responsibility and spontaneous love.
for me that is enough.
> teaching was designed to give himself wealth and personal power, not to
> tell the truth.
>
what is the truth?
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| your disappointment shows that you were expecting something else. there is
no "enlightenment", as in a title or an accomplishment to be flaunted. there
is "being awake", and that is not an accomplishment. it is just being awake,
in the present.
please do not confuse it with walking on water. even a liar like rajneesh
could have told you that. "being on drugs", btw, is considered somewhat
normal in some ascetic sects in india, and in shamans in rest of the world.
as the buddha said, there is suffering. there are causes of suffering. there
is a way to end that suffering. the awakened ones have ended that suffering.
that is all.
and if someone can walk on water or fly in the air, that may bring some
advantages too, like getting a job in a circus.
now cheer up. nobody has cheated you.
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