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| Dep <sparks@n-axis.com> wrote in message news:<Xns963C6B6723E39sparksnaxiscom@216.128.74.13>...
> hbkta@aol.com (HB) wrote in
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> Hmmm... well I have absolutely no credentials at all, but I did spend 15
> years practicing Raja Yoga, 5 years teaching it, then another 5 years
> studying Sufi meditation and it's connection to ancient Vedic
> traditions. I've practiced contemplative prayer/meditation with
> Catholics and meditated with Buddists. I can't say I know much as a
> result however, so excuse my ignorance...
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> How does taking classes and practicing yoga give any one credentials? I
> have been exposed to inner cricles of "Masters", who claim to have
> "credentials". I found their arrogance, secret hatefullness towards
> humanity, and self indulgence trully unimpressive.
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> So what is the point here?
the original thread, if you can find it, probably would shed some
light on the point.
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> Isn't it more important how one lives their life than how often they
> mediate or pray in a day, or for that matter how long they've been
> practicing. I've met far too many dysfunctional, mentally distrubed
> "spiritual practicants" to be impressed with such things. What good is
> experiencing higher spiritual states of mind in the vacuum of
> meditation, when the person experiencing them treats dealing with the
> world like a major inconvenience that distracts them from their blissful
> self indulgence - or worse yet as an opportunity to exploit others with
> their spiritual "credentials".
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> Maybe the questions should be: What kind of person are you? How do you
> treat others? Is your life dominated by selfishness? Do you try to have
> a positive impact on the world around you or is it all about you? Do you
> claim that your self indulgent activies ARE your positive impact on the
> world?
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> Maybe the sound of one hand clapping is actually the sound of getting
> smacked up the side of the face by life itself!
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sounds like you got it right!
> - but you guys are the experts, so feel free to set me straight...I feel
> stupider than ever.
me too
the more I know, the stupider I get.
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