| De Roberts 2005-04-19, 10:49 am |
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"Tom" <dantoXSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "De Roberts" <deroberts2@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Jesus did not say that any harm inflicted on a child was an unforgiveable
> sin. He was specifically referring to leading a child away from following
> his teachings. Look it up.
>
>
> No. But that doesn't mean he was unwilling to forgive them.
>
> Nor is he "my" Jesus. I'm simply noting what is being narrated in the
> bible. Shez decided to try to justify her desires for revenge and torture
> of people she hates by incorrectly quoting the bible. Ask her about *her*
> Jesus, if you like. He's not the same one written about in the bible.
> She's already made it perfectly clear that she doesn't believe the bible.
>
>
> They weren't molesting children either. They were selling crap in the
> temple. Jesus got really mad at anyone who did stuff he didn't like while
> they were in the temple.
Wouldn't he then find forcing a child to have sex worse?
>
>
> Yes, you managed (probably by luck alone) to get that right.
Actually I was raised Catholic and have spent a lifetime studying various
spiritualities.
He considered
> himself a revolutionary teacher who was reforming the Jewish faith in
> order
> to save them. The followers of Christ, those who believed his
> revolutionary
> teachings, were and are called "Christians", even if they were also called
> Jews.
But they weren't called that until he supposedly died and rose again.
>
>
> Only if you don't examine my arguments rationally. To those caught up in
> the recent unreasoning hysteria around child sexual abuse, who believe all
> sorts of false claims about the unchangeable and monstrous nature of
> anyone
> who commits this crime, any attempt to defuse that unthinking rage and
> lust
> for vengeance will appear to be an "apologist".
>
> My point is that the Final Solution that Shez promotes is wrong-headed. I
> do not and never have condoned any sexual relationship between an adult
> and
> a child. It is an appalling crime, but the solution is not to commit yet
> more appalling crimes.
>
>
> That's correct. I'm not talking about the effects of child sexual abuse
> on
> the victim. I'm talking about what action society should take that best
> approximates justice and fair play for all, even for those who commit
> crimes.
>
> All kinds of crime can result in the harming of a child. How about
> someone
> who drinks and drives, gets into an accident, and thus harms a child?
> Shall
> we lock that person away forever because they are unchangeable and
> unforgiveable, too? Just where do we draw the line of unforgiveness and
> prediction of complete incorrigibility? Should every crime that affects a
> child result in the torture and death of the one deemed responsible?
>
> Shez's attitude towards this issue of what comprises a just punishment is
> extreme, vicious, unreasoning, and grossly unfair. That's what I'm
> saying.
>
>
I consider any premeditated crime against a child to be unforgiveable. I
believe if you really read Shez's posts she is for life imprisonment for
sexual predators, not death or torture. Can people make mistakes? Yes but
sexual predators premeditate their crime. They pick out their victms ahead
of time and know exactly what they are going to do to them before hand.
This is not a spur of the moment crime, if it was there wouldn't be so many
child-porn sites out there. If I had an arguement with a neighbor and then
three days later went back with a gun and shot him in the groin maiming him
for life would I not get a nice long sentence? But if I purposely stalk his
child all the while conning the parents into thinking I'm a nice person then
sexual assault the child, maiming him or her emotionally and possibly
physically for life I'm out in 3 to 5 years. Where is the fairness in that?
All I want to see is people held accountable for their actions.
De
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