Yoga - Remote influencing and the cube

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Remote influencing and the cube

Johan

2005-12-16, 6:01 pm

Hi! I have a couple of strange questions. Have read about what is called
remote influencing or manifestation. They said thought creates and by going
deep enough (Theta or Delta brainwaves) and there visualize as it has
already happened it can later show up here in physical reality. Do you know
is there are another term for this in Yogic texts?

I asked in a forum if it would be possible to change things that we
experience as already happened here. After all physical reality and time is
an illusion!

No?

Some people said they had such experiences that would give credit to this.

Another strange question is about the cube. We or our thoughts,
consciousness (what that is) often exist inside a cube??? I think Ka ba in
Kabbalah means cube. Not sure though.
I ask because i see the cube in the stock markets. 707, 577 numbers and
others. If the side is 1 then the sides diagonal is 1,414 (inverted 0,707).
Cubes diagonal 0,577

Found this about the cube http://www.crystalinks.com/outofbox.html

We have all heard that one; "thinking outside the box"

Could never
thought it was real

This cube is mentioned in Yogic "secret" teachings?

Thanks

moon

2005-12-17, 1:03 am

Johan wrote:

> Another strange question is about the cube. We or our thoughts,
> consciousness (what that is) often exist inside a cube??? I think Ka ba in
> Kabbalah means cube. Not sure though.

Some time ago I had a cinversationn with Seven Hundred Elves, about
sacred geometry. We concluded that, geometry is related with the
chakras:

chakra name element plato
1 mooladara earth cube (hexahedron)
2 swadistana water icosahedron
3 manipura fire tetrahedron
4 anahata air octahedron
5 vishuda ether ?

If you want to know more about the subject, we were investigating
Plato, tantra and yantras:

http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~mikel/s.../sriyantra.html
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/P...Platonic_solids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_solid
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Octahedron.html

Moon

Sevenhundred Elves

2005-12-17, 11:00 am

moon wrote:

>
> Johan wrote:
>
>
> Some time ago I had a cinversationn with Seven Hundred Elves, about
> sacred geometry. We concluded that, geometry is related with the
> chakras:
>
> chakra name element plato
> 1 mooladara earth cube (hexahedron)
> 2 swadistana water icosahedron
> 3 manipura fire tetrahedron
> 4 anahata air octahedron
> 5 vishuda ether ?
>
> If you want to know more about the subject, we were investigating
> Plato, tantra and yantras:
>
> http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~mikel/s.../sriyantra.html
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/P...Platonic_solids
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_solid
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Octahedron.html
>
> Moon

Thank you, Moon. It was most kind to mention me in this connection, but
I must admit I didn't contribute much, I just mentioned my use of the
octahedron as a yantra.

But I just had an idea for two more shapes to fill out your table a bit.
I'm not entirely happy about adding the torus, but I feel that a sphere
may well fit in somewhere in the table. My suggestion:

chakra name element shape
==================================================
1 mooladara earth cube (hexahedron)
2 swadistana water icosahedron
3 manipura fire tetrahedron
4 anahata air octahedron
5 vishuda ether dodecahedron
6 ajna torus
7 sahasrara sphere

Maybe I put the sixth and seventh shape in the wrong order. After all,
the eyeball is shaped like a sphere, and a simple crown on top of the
head is topologically identical to a torus.

Further correspondences are listed in a table at
http://www.rainbowbody.net/HeartMind/ChakraMed.htm

S.

moon

2005-12-17, 11:00 am

I haven't associated any geometry with the 5th, 6t and 7th chakras,
because I felt could be none.

In fact, I read somewhere, that the 5th chakra is the place where the 4
elements are dissolved. That's the chakra of purification - ether. Then
trancendence begins....

If I come across the author, i'll post again. I think that was Harish
Johari...

Sevenhundred Elves

2005-12-17, 12:56 pm

Johan wrote:

> Hi! I have a couple of strange questions. Have read about what is called
> remote influencing or manifestation. They said thought creates and by going
> deep enough (Theta or Delta brainwaves) and there visualize as it has
> already happened it can later show up here in physical reality. Do you know
> is there are another term for this in Yogic texts?

The term is "yatha sankalpa".

>
> I asked in a forum if it would be possible to change things that we
> experience as already happened here. After all physical reality and time is
> an illusion!

No?
>
> Some people said they had such experiences that would give credit to this.
>
>
>
> Another strange question is about the cube. We or our thoughts,
> consciousness (what that is) often exist inside a cube??? I think Ka ba in
> Kabbalah means cube. Not sure though.
> I ask because i see the cube in the stock markets. 707, 577 numbers and
> others. If the side is 1 then the sides diagonal is 1,414 (inverted 0,707).
> Cubes diagonal 0,577
>
> Found this about the cube http://www.crystalinks.com/outofbox.html
>
> We have all heard that one; "thinking outside the box"

Could never
> thought it was real
>
>
> This cube is mentioned in Yogic "secret" teachings?

There teachings in yoga are not secret. But on the other hand, the
tradition is big and varied, so nobody knows everything about what's
there and what isn't. All I can say is that cubes or boxes are not
generally considered significant in traditional yoga.

S.

Johan

2005-12-18, 6:05 pm

Thanks for your answers Yogis