Yoga - Has anybody tried Phoenix Rising?

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Has anybody tried Phoenix Rising?

yogini

2005-11-23, 10:58 am

Has anybody here tried Phoenix Rising Yoga Therapy? I've been to
numerous conventional therapists and none of them could (or would) help
me. I just read about PRYT in Fit Yoga and am interested in trying it,
but it's pricey and I don't to waste my money (again.)

Thanks!

-Anna

omjaroo

2005-11-23, 5:58 pm

Hi Anna,

I have not personally tried PRYT, nor do I know anyone who has. I'm
sorry I can't be of any help there.

I do however have some experience healing from seemingly intractable
"conditions" which defied money and conventional therapies. Perhaps
in my studies I have come across something that may be helpful or of
interest to you.

Can you say what the nature of the problem ("feedback" your body
is providing you) which is causing you concern?

Jared Pollard
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yogini

2005-11-23, 5:58 pm

My problems are psychological. I've at various times been diagnosed
with clinical depression, bipolar disorder, borderline personality
disorder, social anxiety disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, and
agoraphobia. I spent about 8 years in psychiatric "treatment" that did
me more harm than good. Now I'm treating myself through proper diet,
nutritional supplements, physical activity and have made a major
lifestyle change (quit a job that literally made me want to put a gun
to my head and put two time zones between me and my family), all of
which have nearly eliminated by symptoms. I now wonder if I'm sick at
all and not just a sensitive person who's faced some difficult life
circumstances.

I still struggle with some anxiety, some anger, and extreme social
isolation. I'm also sick of being told that I need to be in therapy
and want something to brandish at these j*ckoffs who insist I can't be
recovering if I'm not in therapy. (Sorry, that was little of that
anger surfacing.) ;)

-Anna

moon

2005-11-24, 1:00 am

yogini wrote:

> My problems are psychological.
> Now I'm treating myself through proper diet,
> nutritional supplements, physical activity and have made a major
> lifestyle change (quit a job that literally made me want to put a gun
> to my head and put two time zones between me and my family), all of
> which have nearly eliminated by symptoms. I now wonder if I'm sick at
> all and not just a sensitive person who's faced some difficult life
> circumstances.

Hi Anna

Do you feel:
a) - you are under pressure (family, job, etc) or
b) - you have some internal (physical) problems?

If you intuition tells you, that you are 100% under social pressure
(a), you don't need any pill, nor treatment ...

Those one's who want to make you believe you are sick: are the one's
who are sick: send them to the shrink (and get rid of them)
;)

Everyone are under pressure those days. That's why we practice yoga: to
stay above problems: the blockages and pressures of the world.
If you feel that your lifestyle change is doing you good; go in front.
Find new friends (healthy ones), and try to avoid those one's who put
you under pressure....

Moon

omjaroo

2005-11-24, 10:59 am

Anna,

I was just considering how I might respond to your post when it
occurred to me: That if the Truth will set you free, then it stands to
reason that if what you are doing does not set you free; then it must
not be True. Like you, all the psychological labels never set me free,
so I know they are not True and it sounds like you've "realized" that
also.

I have a few pointed suggestions I would like to share with you. Please
stand by :-)

Jared
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Wade Humeniuk

2005-11-25, 10:58 am

yogini wrote:
> My problems are psychological. I've at various times been diagnosed
> with clinical depression, bipolar disorder, borderline personality
> disorder, social anxiety disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, and
> agoraphobia. I spent about 8 years in psychiatric "treatment" that did
> me more harm than good. Now I'm treating myself through proper diet,
> nutritional supplements, physical activity and have made a major
> lifestyle change (quit a job that literally made me want to put a gun
> to my head and put two time zones between me and my family), all of
> which have nearly eliminated by symptoms. I now wonder if I'm sick at
> all and not just a sensitive person who's faced some difficult life
> circumstances.
>
> I still struggle with some anxiety, some anger, and extreme social
> isolation. I'm also sick of being told that I need to be in therapy
> and want something to brandish at these j*ckoffs who insist I can't be
> recovering if I'm not in therapy. (Sorry, that was little of that
> anger surfacing.) ;)
>

And how do you feel about yourself? Are you one of the j*ckoffs telling
yourself the same thing? Food for thought.

Try finding the audio tape version of "From Anger to Forgiveness" by Earnie Larson.
But you are probably right, it has to do with anger and your sense of
injustice.

Wade

omjaroo

2005-11-27, 12:59 am

Anna,

Thanks for answering my question directly and honestly, I appreciate
it. Here are some thoughts.

Regarding "healing yoga". Healing is your nature, it is your substance,
it is your birthright and what you are when you stop creating and
eliminate the accumulated trash in your "temple". Healing does not
come from outside you. You are as capable of learning how to heal
yourself as any "practitioner" and infinitely more suited to applying
that knowledge to your personal situation. By all means learn from
others but don't look to them to "fix" you, that's your job. There are
tons of books and other references which are cheap or no cost. If you
are looking, you will be led right to them by your connection to the
"Universal Energy."

> My problems are psychological.I've at various times been

snip list of myriad ways to say they had no idea what was wrong

> I spent about 8 years in psychiatric "treatment" that did
> me more harm than good.

Hopefully in that time you learned that if something isn't working then
try something else. I for one, spent much longer then that learning
this lesson :-)

> Now I'm treating myself through proper diet, nutritional
> supplements, physical activity and have made a major
> lifestyle change

Which no doubt was exactly what the wisdom of your body/soul was
telling you to do.

> (quit a job that literally made me want to put a gun to my
> head and put two time zones between me and my family),

Ah, the old, if I want to kill myself over my job then it's probably
not good for me lesson. That's a good one :-)

>all of which have nearly eliminated by symptoms.

Great to hear! The proof is in the pudding, as they say and a sweet
pudding it is :-)

> I now wonder if I'm sick at all and not just a sensitive
> person who's faced some difficult life circumstances.

Welcome to the human race :-) And you know what else? We're all like
that. Everyone does the best they can with what they have and when they
can do better they will do better.

> I still struggle with some anxiety, some anger, and extreme
> social isolation.

I can't recommend any process more effective then a 12 step process.
Pick your flavor. It's all about taking personal responsibility. It
puts all the power right where it belongs, in yours and your Higher
Powers hands. No j*ackoffs allowed :-)

> I'm also sick of being told that I need to be in therapy
> and want something to brandish at these j*ckoffs who insist
> I can't be recovering if I'm not in therapy. (Sorry, that
> was little of that anger surfacing.)

Yes I fully understand you. I have had to learn to let go of the
resentments I have harbored for people I thought should have been
helping me. I realized it was never about what they did or didn't do.
It was about my thoughts and feelings and the choices I made. When I
decided (forced to was more like it) to take responsibility for my own
life and my own health, mental, physical and spiritual, is when I
started to heal. Early on I had to learn to forgive others and later I
would learn there was actually nothing to forgive in the first place. I
create (and have created) all of my own fear and pain :-)

And here is one of the most helpful things I have ever learned (besides
that there is God :-) Anger is fear. Always. Anger has no existence
apart from fear. No fear; no anger. Anger is an expression of fear
which is externalized and aggressive. It is a self-protection
mechanism. It is quite easy to observe in wild animals, dogs, cats,
etc. Frighten an animal and it may attack you. The animal equivalent of
getting "angry".

If you don't believe me you can check it out for yourself. Next time
you feel yourself getting angry (a little angry or irritated would
likely be easier) stop and ask yourself, "gee I am getting angry, is
there anything right now that I am afraid of loosing or a desire I am
afraid I won't obtain, or pain or danger I am afraid I will be made to
suffer?" If you can connect, even in a small way, with whatever at that
moment you are frightened of, watch what happens to the feeling of
anger. It will simply evaporate.

Concerning mental health and things psychiatric. It is my experience
that often what passes as some sort of "illness" is more often related
to physic awareness (at some level) of other "planes" of existence
which other less sensitive persons are unaware of. These events can be
extremely frightening and disorienting. It virtually impossible to find
someone you can talk to about them. They can make you feel like you are
going "nuts". As you gain balance, health and the self confidence that
comes from taking control of your own healing you may wish to learn
about and explore some of "other-worldly" phenomenon which exist and
evaluate some of the events of your life with this new knowledge. Yoga
is a very good discipline to study and practice in this regard. Yoga is
also wonderful for your health and your soul :-)

A couple of books I highly recommend:
Handbook of Higher Consciousness, Ken Keyes
How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World, Harry Browne
Beyond Success and Failure by Marguerite & Willard Beecher
Any Yoga book by Richard Hittlemen.
Any book by Paramahansa Yoganada, especially his "Autobiography of a
Yogi" and "Man's Eternal Quest".
You can get any of these books on amazon for next to nothing :-)

Jared
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