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zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

hi
i'm new to this group and to yoga. i recently started a hatha yoga
class, mostly for exercise although i'm not adverse to addressing any
consciousness issues that might come up. anyway, it's an intro class
but it has been really intense for me. after the first couple of
classes a few strange things happened. i started having these weird
thoughts, that seemed really violent although there was absolutely no
desire to mimic the thoughts or participate. these thoughts lasted a
couple of weeks and really disturbed me because they seemed really out
of my usual thought patterns. then the day of my birthday a few hours
after my yoga class i was at the market and my partner and child were
in the market building, going to the bathroom. this tall thin man came
up to my face, and said "hey" and when i looked at him, his eyes glowed
red, not like a lightbulb or led red, but a deep kind of red. he turned
and disappeared into the crowd. as soon as i put it into words, it
seemed really like i was crazy. then a week later during my yoga class,
we were doing the "dead man" posture and suddenly i was enveloped in a
blue dome. even weirder than that, was my yoga teacher saying "YES!!!!"
at the moment it happened, like he saw it. or maybe everyone in the
class had blue domes. i dont' know. i'm afraid to talk to anybody about
it for fear that they'll treat me differently etc. i really dig the
class, and i don't want to feel like i can't go. i have no idea if the
two previous things are related to doing yoga, i'm pretty sure the blue
dome thing was. does anybody have any insights into what might be going
on? other than affirmations of lunacy. i can come up with those myself.

omjaroo

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

If I suppose your post is for real, I would wonder why you didn't ask
your yoga teacher why he said "yes".

Jared

zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

why wouldn't my post be real. i'm not trolling.
nobody speaks in the class at all, i would never interupt like that.
and i just had something really strange happen to me, i wasn't about to
draw attention to myself having just had that happen to me - it was
pretty fantastical, i wasn't even really sure that it happened, or that
he had said yes like i had heard. maybe i will get up the nerve to talk
to him about it.

i have been trying to find stuff through google, but there's so much
stuff to sift through, i was hoping somebody could point me in a
direction to poke around for more stuff.


omjaroo wrote:
> If I suppose your post is for real, I would wonder why you didn't ask
> your yoga teacher why he said "yes".
>
> Jared


omjaroo

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

>why wouldn't my post be real.
Because you were trolling?

>i'm not trolling.

OK :-)

>nobody speaks in the class at all, i would never interupt like that.

Why not? What are you afraid of?

>and i just had something really strange happen to me, i wasn't about to
>draw attention to myself having just had that happen to me

Why not? If you had something important happen, that you didn't
understand ,then you needed attention, didn't you?

> it was pretty fantastical, i wasn't even really sure that it happened, or that
>he had said yes like i had heard.

All the more reason to ask for and get "clarification"

>maybe i will get up the nerve to talk to him about it.

The alternative is to wallow in your fear and ignorance :-(

>i have been trying to find stuff through google, but there's so much
>stuff to sift through, i was hoping somebody could point me in a
>direction to poke around for more stuff.


Yes you are correct, there is lot's of stuff. And yes there are those
here who will be happy to help you sort through it and point you in the
direction of helpful material. But you need to have enough courage to
ask. I suggest you start with your "in person" yoga teacher.

And in the mean time, let's consider the "violent" thoughts you refered
to. Would you share them?

Jared

Don

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:18:03 -0800, zebby <zebtronica@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi
> i'm new to this group and to yoga. i recently started a hatha yoga
> class, mostly for exercise although i'm not adverse to addressing any
> consciousness issues that might come up. anyway, it's an intro class
> but it has been really intense for me. after the first couple of
> classes a few strange things happened. i started having these weird
> thoughts, that seemed really violent although there was absolutely no
> desire to mimic the thoughts or participate. these thoughts lasted a
> couple of weeks and really disturbed me because they seemed really out
> of my usual thought patterns. then the day of my birthday a few hours
> after my yoga class i was at the market and my partner and child were
> in the market building, going to the bathroom. this tall thin man came
> up to my face, and said "hey" and when i looked at him, his eyes glowed
> red, not like a lightbulb or led red, but a deep kind of red. he turned
> and disappeared into the crowd. as soon as i put it into words, it
> seemed really like i was crazy. then a week later during my yoga class,
> we were doing the "dead man" posture and suddenly i was enveloped in a
> blue dome. even weirder than that, was my yoga teacher saying "YES!!!!"
> at the moment it happened, like he saw it. or maybe everyone in the
> class had blue domes. i dont' know. i'm afraid to talk to anybody about
> it for fear that they'll treat me differently etc. i really dig the
> class, and i don't want to feel like i can't go. i have no idea if the
> two previous things are related to doing yoga, i'm pretty sure the blue
> dome thing was. does anybody have any insights into what might be going
> on? other than affirmations of lunacy. i can come up with those myself.
>


Hi Zebby,

I'm not a psychologist, but it seems possible to me that you may have
undiagnosed schizophrenia and something about yoga is bringing it out.
It's hard to say what is within the range of "normal" experience, since
there is a pretty big range. All I can tell you is that I've been doing
yoga for 37 years and have not experienced these effects.

--Don



zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

ok, that's exactly the reason why i wouldn't ask my yoga teacher,
because of these kinds of reactions to peoples experiences and
perceptions. i respect that you come from an extensive practice of yoga
but i think it's unfortunate for both of us that you responded with the
mental illness card, particularily when i mentioned that i could come
up with that myself.

however, i must acknowledge your concern, because it does seem genuine
and i'd like to reassure that I am capable of seeking out professional
help if indeed there is a reason for it. i have access to these kinds
of resources where many people in the world do not.

have you ever read foucaults madness and civilization? it's an
interesting analysis of when/where/how the categorization and
institutionalization of "crazy" people came about - when historically
they have been part of the community, as village fools, and as medicine
men and gurus. it's worth a read, because it demonstrates the western
notion of mental health, and why those ideas came about.

zebby

Don wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:18:03 -0800, zebby <zebtronica@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Zebby,
>
> I'm not a psychologist, but it seems possible to me that you may have
> undiagnosed schizophrenia and something about yoga is bringing it out.
> It's hard to say what is within the range of "normal" experience, since
> there is a pretty big range. All I can tell you is that I've been doing
> yoga for 37 years and have not experienced these effects.
>
> --Don


zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

my fear is mostly one of ostracization. i am not new to the experience
of it, but find it unpleasant. i like being connected to my community,
and with people and for the most part, i am. except of course when i
have some experience like this, that is not aligned with my north
american upbringing. (although - my grandma was into yoga so it's
always been in the periphery - but my parents are very grounded in
their ideas of reality, and so i grew up with those notions ingrained
in me)

anyway, the violent images i saw were of people close to me, their
deaths by another person.
i see alot of things in metaphors already, i'm quite involved with
meaning making processes in my career, so it is quite possible that
some pop psychology would work in this instance. perhaps it is
unrelated to doing yoga, perhaps i was just realizing my fear of losing
them etc. and that is fine with me if that's what it is. i have no
real explanation of the other two events. my partner mentioned that the
man with red eyes could have been a performance artist wearing red
contacts. i agree, this is a possibility.
the blue dome however, i have no explanation for so maybe we can start
there.

Don

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:16:01 -0800, zebby <zebtronica@gmail.com> wrote:

[trim]
> have you ever read foucaults madness and civilization? it's an
> interesting analysis of when/where/how the categorization and
> institutionalization of "crazy" people came about - when historically
> they have been part of the community, as village fools, and as medicine
> men and gurus. it's worth a read, because it demonstrates the western
> notion of mental health, and why those ideas came about.
>

Nope, I haven't read it. I'd like to mention, though, that a good friend
of mine has schizophrenia and I certainly don't consider him "crazy."

--Don
hbkta@aol.com

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm


zebby wrote:
> hi
> i'm new to this group and to yoga. i recently started a hatha yoga
> class, mostly for exercise although i'm not adverse to addressing any
> consciousness issues that might come up. anyway, it's an intro class
> but it has been really intense for me. after the first couple of
> classes a few strange things happened. i started having these weird
> thoughts, that seemed really violent although there was absolutely no
> desire to mimic the thoughts or participate. these thoughts lasted a
> couple of weeks and really disturbed me because they seemed really out
> of my usual thought patterns. then the day of my birthday a few hours
> after my yoga class i was at the market and my partner and child were
> in the market building, going to the bathroom. this tall thin man came
> up to my face, and said "hey" and when i looked at him, his eyes glowed
> red, not like a lightbulb or led red, but a deep kind of red. he turned
> and disappeared into the crowd. as soon as i put it into words, it
> seemed really like i was crazy. then a week later during my yoga class,
> we were doing the "dead man" posture and suddenly i was enveloped in a
> blue dome. even weirder than that, was my yoga teacher saying "YES!!!!"
> at the moment it happened, like he saw it. or maybe everyone in the
> class had blue domes. i dont' know. i'm afraid to talk to anybody about
> it for fear that they'll treat me differently etc. i really dig the
> class, and i don't want to feel like i can't go. i have no idea if the
> two previous things are related to doing yoga, i'm pretty sure the blue
> dome thing was. does anybody have any insights into what might be going
> on? other than affirmations of lunacy. i can come up with those myself.


Hi Zebby,
A friend of mine had similar stuff come up when he first started yoga.
His were mostly about commiting violent assaults on perfect strangers.
So it is not unheard of.

people store all sorts of emotions, tensions etc in the body.
You could check out the writings of Alexander Lowen or Arthur Janov if
you are not familiar with the concept.
Yoga postures can bring ingored sentiments into consciousness.
Sometimes this will happen after practice, sometimes this can happen
while in the pose itself. It is not likely to happen while in a pose
during a class unless you feel very secure and safe with the intructor
and group of people there. ... an instructor who is afraid of feelings
is not going to create an atmosphere that will allow them to surface in
class.

The blue dome....Hmmm could be a lot of things, could just be one of
those fun and interesting happenings that occur in yoga. How did you
feel during the experience?

off hand, it sounds to me as if you were being in the egg, sometime
after conception but before implantation.

zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

i wasn't really feeling anything emotionally charged, other than a kind
of "hmmm that is an odd blue dome over me" and it broke when my teacher
said "YES!" -- it slipped away.
i wasn't scared by it - it seemed pretty ok to have happened. it was
only really in retrospect that i was like "that was rather odd and
disconcerting".

i did a little reading on the internet about chakras and some colours
associated with them but the sites seem to describe them as small round
ball like things that have specific places in your body. this
definately enveloped most if not all of my body.

the being in the egg thing sounds kind of neat and comfortingly benign.

zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

it's good that your friend has you as his friend then.

moon

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

"we were doing the "dead man" posture and suddenly i was enveloped in a

blue dome. even weirder than that, was my yoga teacher saying "YES!!!!"

at the moment it happened, like he saw it. or maybe everyone in the
class had blue domes. i dont' know. i'm afraid to talk to anybody about

it for fear that they'll treat me differently etc."


What do you mean by "dead man" posture:
- relax (only)?
- yoga nidra (guided)?
- guided meditation?

Depending on the type of relax you were doing, could be something the
teacher was already expecting.....


Why did the teacher said "YES":
- he has some "Siddhis"?

If true, you should ask your teacher in the end of the class. He is the
only person who could help you.
Otherwise, why didn't you ask him? don't you trust him? If not, why do
you go to class?

Moon

zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

bear in mind i have been to 6 classes so far in my entire life so i am
not totally informed as to what is what.
the posture i was referring to, is one where we were laying on our
backs and he would talk us through relaxing our various parts of our
bodies. we did it after we did a bunch of other postures.

i am unclear about siddhis. from what i have looked up, they are
ablities that people can arrive at? are these things that everyone has
the potential to develop?

is there a chronological or hierarchical manner in which people arrive
at them? i was wondering also about chakra's. can people see them? or
is it theoretical kind of place in your body. and also can they be
broken? and are they hierarchical? or can you notice them/work on them
in varying orders...

at the beginning of the class that day, before we started, and while
everyone was arriving, my teacher was sitting with his hands kind of
like in a cup and he looked like he was mumbling, and i saw his eyes
roll into the back of his head. it kind of freaked me out to be honest.
most of this stuff is outside my usual experiences
so i am trying to understand it. i wil talk to him this weekend about
it.

moon

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

zebby wrote:

"the posture i was referring to, is one where we were laying on our
backs and he would talk us through relaxing our various parts of our
bodies. we did it after we did a bunch of other postures. "

answer: guided yoga nidra - the basic one


"i am unclear about siddhis. from what i have looked up, they are
ablities that people can arrive at? are these things that everyone has
the potential to develop? "

yes. but not everyone.


"is there a chronological"

no, I wouldn't say that. Just: there's an evolution...


"or hierarchical manner in which people arrive
at them?

yeap, could be. Could be a symptom of kundalini arousal, but not
necessarily.


"i was wondering also about chakra's. can people see them? "

yes, and could be the case of your teacher. The siddhi related is:
clarividence.
There are many degrees. If someone could see chakras: I presume it is
an advanced state.


"at the beginning of the class that day, before we started, and while
everyone was arriving, my teacher was sitting with his hands kind of
like in a cup"

that's a mudra


"and he looked like he was mumbling,"

a mantra


"and i saw his eyes roll into the back of his head. "

I presume he was concentrating in ajna chakra, or perhaps something
more advanced than my understanding....


"it kind of freaked me out to be honest.
most of this stuff is outside my usual experiences
so i am trying to understand it. i wil talk to him this weekend about "

Ask him:
a - what kind of yoga is
b - main influences: gurus,teachers, etc
c - ask recomendation for books, yoga sites, etc

If he doesn't answer a) or b) I would say it's a bit suspicious. Then
you ask recomendation for books (that's an indirect way to check his
influence...)

And afterwards post again, here, with his answers....


Moon

zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

i was trying to find more classes to take that would fit into my odd
schedule and i asked him where i could take more classes. he mentioned
a couple at another community centre, and then he suggested i find bk
iyengar's light on yoga. he said it was a book that alot of people
referred to in other books and would lead me through things, if i
couldn't find a class that fit my schedule.
when i registered for the course it was supposed to be a hatha yoga
class. we do seem to do alot of stuff around breathing.
thank you so much for answering my questions, it's given me more stuff
to look up!

moon

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm


Hi

Hatha yoga is a well known type of yoga. And very credible.

But there are other yoga branches that are hatha yoga correlated, or
are considered sub-branches.
Examples:
- integral yoga
- Ashtanga Yoga
- etc

iyengar's light on yoga is a very good book...
And if his main influence is Iyengar, then he has a good influence...

It looks like he is not upset about the fact you go to other classes:
It's a sign of being a good teacher!
(it doesn't look like a cult...)

Moon

moon

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

Hi:

some links:
light on yoga
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

Another good book (Satyananda):
Here you have some information about basic mudras (as well):

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

A book with (many) mudras:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books


Moon

Stu

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

I have been kinda busy lately. So I will comment on the original post.

On 2005-11-02 17:18:03 -0800, "zebby" <zebtronica@gmail.com> said:

> hi
> i'm new to this group and to yoga. i recently started a hatha yoga
> class, mostly for exercise although i'm not adverse to addressing any
> consciousness issues that might come up. anyway, it's an intro class
> but it has been really intense for me. after the first couple of
> classes a few strange things happened. i started having these weird
> thoughts, that seemed really violent although there was absolutely no
> desire to mimic the thoughts or participate. these thoughts lasted a
> couple of weeks and really disturbed me because they seemed really out
> of my usual thought patterns.


This has been mentioned before. But let me elaborate. It may be the
yoga class, it may not be. Yoga is helping you do two things, relax
and look inward. As we find deep relaxation we release stored stress.
Our lives are filled with stressful experiences. Our primitive fight
or flight response is not adequate fro the modern world. It may be that
these violent thoughts are merely the results of these stresses coming
forward.

I would not focus on the content of the thoughts. They are merely
carriers of stress. Best to not dwell on them and allow them to go.

That is were the yoga can be very valuable. As you progress, you will
learn to let things go. As westerners we often think we have to put
effort into fixes. In yoga we learn that sometimes the best policy is
to allow the body/mind to settle and let go.

This does not mean we are completely passive and eschew effort. We
focus our effort into positive activities.

> then the day of my birthday a few hours
> after my yoga class i was at the market and my partner and child were
> in the market building, going to the bathroom. this tall thin man came
> up to my face, and said "hey" and when i looked at him, his eyes glowed
> red, not like a lightbulb or led red, but a deep kind of red. he turned
> and disappeared into the crowd. as soon as i put it into words, it
> seemed really like i was crazy.


Sounds like it is not you who is crazy but the man who was. Your
interpretation of the man's red eyes probable gets back to your
ruminating over disturbing mental images. Again, rather than reading a
deeper meaning into the experience you may want to chock it up to
stress.

There is a yogic way of getting to the bottom of an experience like
this. That would be to get into a relaxed state. Maybe before bed.
Or simply sitting with the eyes closed in front of the computer. Take
a minute to realize that with closed eyes, thoughts come and go
spontaneously, naturally. Just notice thoughts, do not get involved
with them. Do this for 2 minutes to settle the mind.

Now introduce the image of the man with the eyes. But separate
yourself from it. Allow it to be before you. Then allow it to recede
away from you. Eventually it will pass on as all thoughts (good or
bad) do.

See if you can assess the value of the "man thought" versus the value
of other thoughts.

> then a week later during my yoga class,
> we were doing the "dead man" posture and suddenly i was enveloped in a
> blue dome. even weirder than that, was my yoga teacher saying "YES!!!!"
> at the moment it happened, like he saw it. or maybe everyone in the
> class had blue domes. i dont' know.


Most likely your teacher saw his students were finding deep peace. One
can see the glow on their faces. The "Yes" was recognition of the
teaching working.

> i'm afraid to talk to anybody about
> it for fear that they'll treat me differently etc. i really dig the
> class, and i don't want to feel like i can't go. i have no idea if the
> two previous things are related to doing yoga, i'm pretty sure the blue
> dome thing was. does anybody have any insights into what might be going
> on? other than affirmations of lunacy. i can come up with those myself.


The blue dome is an image you have chosen to connect with deep
relaxation. For someone else it may be a warm fireplace, or a field on
a summer day, or the pure black vacuum of space. As with all images
even pleasant ones, you can choose to become attached to it or you can
let it go. Its your choice. Ask yourself, what are the consequences
of identifying with the blue dome image? Will this image always bring
me peace? Will I be able to get it back? And if If can't make it come
back what will be the ramifications?

I would not worry so much about being crazy. You will know when it is
appropriate to see a psychiatrist when you have symptoms that make it
difficult to live life. You feel asocial, can't sleep at night or
panic attacks for example.

To me, it sounds like you are quite sane. We are all neurotic. We are
confronted with stressful situations from birth. It is very likely you
have not found an outlet for many of these stresses and that yoga is
doing its job and allowing these stresses to come to the forefront.
You may be uncomfortable for a while, but if you stick with it I can
assure you that you will feel better for working through these tensions.

Allow yourself to enjoy yoga and the experiences it brings to your life.
--
~Stu

zebby

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

hi
thank you for your reply
it actually set my mind at ease alot
i didn't manage to get up the nerve to talk to my teacher about it
but today during relaxation i had some different images happen - it was
more of a kind
of zig zagging of white light. it was pretty neat, and today i managed
to just let it be what it was.
(although admittedly, it did not seem very relaxing)

i am going to try what you suggested with the image of the man i saw as
it's still lingering in my thoughts.
and i am most definately going to stick with learning yoga, because i
have already seen alot of positive changes in a short period of time.

moon

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm


> i didn't manage to get up the nerve to talk to my teacher about it


Doesn't matter.
Just feel that he can help you. He is someone that is there to help you
relax.
But don't feel upset by not being able to talk with him. If you don't
fell like talking, don't talk.
(Perhaps that was the reason why you were not able to relax properly)


> but today during relaxation i had some different images happen - it was
> more of a kind
> of zig zagging of white light. it was pretty neat, and today i managed
> to just let it be what it was.
> (although admittedly, it did not seem very relaxing)
>
> i am going to try what you suggested with the image of the man i saw as
> it's still lingering in my thoughts.
> and i am most definately going to stick with learning yoga, because i
> have already seen alot of positive changes in a short period of time.



There are two ways to relax (or meditate) in yoga:
a) - disperse (actively) the thoughts
b) - witnessing the thoughts like we were another person, like
watching a film. That's a way to disperse the thoughts passively. (the
Satyananda way).

It looks like b) could be your better option.
At home, you can always try the two options, and see what works better
on you.


Moon

Stu

2005-11-12, 6:10 pm

On 2005-11-06 04:08:36 -0800, "moon" <moon_lune_lua@yahoo.co.uk> said:

>
>
> Doesn't matter.
> Just feel that he can help you. He is someone that is there to help you
> relax.
> But don't feel upset by not being able to talk with him. If you don't
> fell like talking, don't talk.
> (Perhaps that was the reason why you were not able to relax properly)
>
>
>
>
> There are two ways to relax (or meditate) in yoga:
> a) - disperse (actively) the thoughts
> b) - witnessing the thoughts like we were another person, like
> watching a film. That's a way to disperse the thoughts passively. (the
> Satyananda way).
>
> It looks like b) could be your better option.
> At home, you can always try the two options, and see what works better
> on you.
>
>
> Moon


You may want to check out wildmind.org. There are some guided
meditations that give you a really good sense of the many different
forms of meditation that are out there. They are free, and play
directly out of the computer.


--
~Stu

omjaroo

2005-11-12, 6:10 pm

I think you have had some great responses from the group and I hope you
continue to participate and keep us updated on your progress.

Jared

vinran1@bellsouth.net

2005-11-15, 1:02 am

One time in a yoga class after I had finished the meditation, I could
swear I felt an electrical energy of some type coming off of my
fingers, like it was leaving my body. definate tingle, similar to a
mild electric current eminating from my fingertips.

My instructor said this is normal, that many people feel some sort of
sensation at times.

It only happened once, though; But it definately made me think.....

Ths has nothing to do woth your experience, just thought I'd share it.



On 2 Nov 2005 17:18:03 -0800, "zebby" <zebtronica@gmail.com> wrote:

>hi
>i'm new to this group and to yoga. i recently started a hatha yoga
>class, mostly for exercise although i'm not adverse to addressing any
>consciousness issues that might come up. anyway, it's an intro class
>but it has been really intense for me. after the first couple of
>classes a few strange things happened. i started having these weird
>thoughts, that seemed really violent although there was absolutely no
>desire to mimic the thoughts or participate. these thoughts lasted a
>couple of weeks and really disturbed me because they seemed really out
>of my usual thought patterns. then the day of my birthday a few hours
>after my yoga class i was at the market and my partner and child were
>in the market building, going to the bathroom. this tall thin man came
>up to my face, and said "hey" and when i looked at him, his eyes glowed
>red, not like a lightbulb or led red, but a deep kind of red. he turned
>and disappeared into the crowd. as soon as i put it into words, it
>seemed really like i was crazy. then a week later during my yoga class,
>we were doing the "dead man" posture and suddenly i was enveloped in a
>blue dome. even weirder than that, was my yoga teacher saying "YES!!!!"
>at the moment it happened, like he saw it. or maybe everyone in the
>class had blue domes. i dont' know. i'm afraid to talk to anybody about
>it for fear that they'll treat me differently etc. i really dig the
>class, and i don't want to feel like i can't go. i have no idea if the
>two previous things are related to doing yoga, i'm pretty sure the blue
>dome thing was. does anybody have any insights into what might be going
>on? other than affirmations of lunacy. i can come up with those myself.


omjaroo

2005-11-15, 10:58 am

>I could swear I felt an electrical energy of some type coming off of my
>fingers, like it was leaving my body. definate tingle, similar to a
>mild electric current eminating from my fingertips.


I have felt this very intensly. It was not during yoga but during an
emotionaly intense therapy session. I can remember laying on the ground
feeling the energy flowing from the top of my head and arms and out my
hands. I could see it coursing across the floor. It looked like the
shimmering distortion of heat you see in the distance on a very hot
day. I can only imagine what the person sitting in it's path was
feeling or perceiving :-)

If you would like to see this energy (prana, chi, etc) it is fairly
easy. Sitting or laying comfortably in a slightly darkend room, gently
put the fingers of both your hands together tip to tip, cupped as if
you were holding a small ball in the space between them. Holding your
hand thus, relax your shoulders and your arms. Bit by bit let all the
tension flow out of your arms and hands while still touching you
fingers.. Use only the absolute minimum energy you need to keep your
finger tips touching. Let go of all other tension. You will feel a
warmth flow into your hands. Continue to relax more and more and notice
the heat increase. Now focus your gaze between your finger tips and
slowly draw your two hands apart. You will see the life force moving
between your finger tips. It will appear as a clear strand with a
water-like distortion flowing from tip to tip. Depending how much chi
you have moved to your fingers during your focus and relaxation, after
a short distance the flow will break.

Try it. It's a kick!

Jared

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moon

2005-11-15, 5:58 pm

vinran1@bellsouth.net wrote:
" One time in a yoga class after I had finished the meditation, I could
swear I felt an electrical energy of some type coming off of my
fingers, like it was leaving my body. definate tingle, similar to a
mild electric current eminating from my fingertips.
My instructor said this is normal, that many people feel some sort of
sensation at times."

The feeling of electrical energy may be subtle or strong, like a shock.
Could be light and fresh, or heavy and burning.
We could feel it in any part of the body.
We can notice it in any yoga pose or in yoga nidra.
In our everyday live, when we breath deeply, when we get angry,
disgusted, ansious, etc.

The strongest feeling of energy comes usually during "kundaliny"
arousal, using a tantric term (in yoga is called samadhi).


When you say, that the energy came out of your fingers, there's
something else to say.

In many yoga poses it's useful to "close" the circuit of energy, like
in pashimotanasana.
In this case we have to reach the feet. If we don't succed in reaching
the feet, we should flex the knees or, use a towel.
The ideia is to keep the energy inside the body, in order not to lose
it.


Moon

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