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Author New Moon Oct 3 & the coming civilization
RH

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

It may interest some to hear (if they haven't already) that the
uplifting energies accessible to mankind begin an upward curve at the
time of the new moon, and continue their ascent until after the full
moon. It's a good time to put fresh effort into keeping the attention
high - focused in the higher energy centers and to work at disciplining
the mind, thinking and/or saying mantras.
Auum!
rh

===============

"As we consciously align with the rhythmic pattern of energy flow each
month, we become a part of a planetary meditative process carried
forward at all levels of consciousness and with great creative
potential for anchoring the seeds of the coming civilisation and the
germ of the new culture.

"The point which I seek to emphasise, and which I hope will remain in
your minds, is that this technique of meditation is the outstanding
creative agent on our planet. When you, as an individual, are
endeavouring to... [perfect yourself by helping the world] ... which
will be an expression of your true spiritual self, meditation is, as
you well know, your best agent; but the meditation process must be
accompanied by creative work or else it is purely mystical, and though
not futile, is nevertheless negative in creative results."

http://www.lucistrust.org/meetings/...n/newmoon.shtml

-----------

The "coming civilization" will be one where all life is respected,
where there is no place for corrupt, lying, warmongering, corporate led
politicians. It will become a civilization where man's basic needs -
for food, shelter, healthcare, and education are guaranteed for
everyone. A civilization where everyone matters, where everyone has
plenty. A new era where mankind recognizes the fact that humanity is
one, that we are all members of one great family, and that we are all
evolving creatures, all linked to and part of the divine. The 'door
where evil dwells' will be sealed - for an age and a half - about 3,300
years and mankind will flourish.
rh

"Then will a newer light shine forth into the dismal, weary vale of
earth. Then will new life course through the veins of men, & then will
their vision compass all the ways of what may be... So a peace will
come again on earth, but a peace unlike aught known before. Then will
the will-to-good flower forth as understanding, & understanding blossom
as goodwill in men."
aab/DK in "The Reappearance of the Christ"
http://snipurl.com/i4d6

===================================

"Only a few, here and there, really grasp the vision of the future and
realise what is going on, seeing truly the beauty of the emerging
Plan... mankind [will advance] into a civilization and a state of
consciousness in which right human relations and worldwide cooperation
for the good of all will be the universal keynote." The Tibetan
========

"Without sharing there can be no justice;
without justice there can be no peace;
without peace there can be no future."
The World Teacher
==========

"The day that hunger is eradicated from the earth there will be the
greatest spiritual explosion the world has ever known. Humanity cannot
imagine the joy that will burst into the world on the day of that great
revolution."
Federico Garcia Lorca
========

http://one.org/

jody radzik

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

RH wrote:

[snipped Share International satscamming]

Just more mythological fantasy by those lusting
for name and fame in the coming "new age."

It's all right here, right now, people.

You are waiting for something that will never
come to you as long as you are waiting for it.

Ascended masters are neither. They are merely
the products of the imaginations of the desperate
and power-hungry.

Moon

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm


I'm sorry, but you are lost in your own paradox.

Power, always the greed of power: you're trying to rule
consciousness....

You took the wrong path inside a labyrinth made by yourself.

I would say, your labyrinth has no way out (is blocked everywhere).

And joining in groups is never a good ideia....


Moon

jody radzik

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

Moon wrote:

> I'm sorry, but you are lost in your own paradox.


Better to be lost in the Self than in the ridiculous
myth and fantasy foisted by the theosophical ninnies.

> Power, always the greed of power: you're trying to rule
> consciousness....


Consciousness has as much to do with ascended
masters as my dog's XXX.

> You took the wrong path inside a labyrinth made by yourself.
>
> I would say, your labyrinth has no way out (is blocked everywhere).


Every path you look upon has only one destination:
glamourized delusion.

There is no Great White Brotherhood, at least
one that can actually do anything. It's all in
your head, deluded one. One big fantasy begot
by power-hungry con women who were nothing more
than European parlor dilettantes who sought after
name and fame by bullshitting those dumber than
they.

> And joining in groups is never a good ideia....


At least you are right in this case. Especially
watch out for groups associated with Ben Creme,
Alice Bailey, Theosophy, Share International, or
Lucis Trust.

> Moon


...is doomed to a life of glamourized fantasy that
has as much to do with his/her nondual truth as
my dog's XXX.

puma

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

Hi Jody,


I second all your words... These people actually do not live. They are
sleeping. In that sleep,they see some sort of dreams,and they think
that these dreams are real..

1- What has got the phase of the moon to do with any sort of energy?
In science there is no such bullies...Only in dreams it might
happen...

2- If there is any energy involved, what type of energy is it?

3- What these dreams got to do with yoga?

4- What these dreams got to do with meditaton? If there is any relation
with meditation,then which type of meditation these people are talking
about? Plunjing into the subconscious or walking on the consciousness.

They have no idea what meditation is ...So just bullying such dreams

is a shame!!!!These bullies has no place in YOGA...Yoga is not a dreamy
aspect. it is a substantial action...


Puma

jody radzik wrote:
> RH wrote:
>
> [snipped Share International satscamming]
>
> Just more mythological fantasy by those lusting
> for name and fame in the coming "new age."
>
> It's all right here, right now, people.
>
> You are waiting for something that will never
> come to you as long as you are waiting for it.
>
> Ascended masters are neither. They are merely
> the products of the imaginations of the desperate
> and power-hungry.


puma

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

Very funy awaiting the coming generation just like some people are
waiting mesiah to come to the earth. No difference with their ideas.

You are in a deep sleep....The phase of the moon has no relation with
any energy...If it had so we wud see it scientifically....

Get up AWAKE man! Do not sleep.

Puma

Moon

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

jody radzik wrote:
> Moon wrote:
>
>
> Better to be lost in the Self than in the ridiculous
> myth and fantasy foisted by the theosophical ninnies.
>
>
> Consciousness has as much to do with ascended
> masters as my dog's XXX.
>
>
> Every path you look upon has only one destination:
> glamourized delusion.
>
> There is no Great White Brotherhood, at least
> one that can actually do anything. It's all in
> your head, deluded one. One big fantasy begot
> by power-hungry con women who were nothing more
> than European parlor dilettantes who sought after
> name and fame by bullshitting those dumber than
> they.
>
>
> At least you are right in this case. Especially
> watch out for groups associated with Ben Creme,
> Alice Bailey, Theosophy, Share International, or
> Lucis Trust.
>
>
> ..is doomed to a life of glamourized fantasy that
> has as much to do with his/her nondual truth as
> my dog's XXX.



Hi jody radzik:
My post was not meant to you........

(check you tree appearance)

I was answering RH (not you)

(Who do you think I am ?)

Moon
(I'm the other "Moon", not the whatever "New Moon")

jody radzik

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

Moon wrote:

[snip]

> Hi jody radzik:
> My post was not meant to you........
>
> (check you tree appearance)
>
> I was answering RH (not you)
>
> (Who do you think I am ?)


Well, if you believe magic kings (ascended
masters) will save us, you are sadly deluded
at the very least.

But if you don't, and agree that Ben Creme
and his minions are full of shit, then welcome
to the good fight, brother or sister!

--jody

[snip]

Melkuth

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

jody radzik wrote:

> Moon wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>
>
> Well, if you believe magic kings (ascended
> masters) will save us, you are sadly deluded
> at the very least.
>
> But if you don't, and agree that Ben Creme
> and his minions are full of shit, then welcome
> to the good fight, brother or sister!
>
> --jody
>
> [snip]
>


jody,

Have you concidered that there maybe many streams of experience
(realities). And it is up to the individual to pick the stream which
suits their desired experience?
Moon

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

jody radzik:

(you are still confused?)

> Well, if you believe magic kings (ascended
> masters) will save us, you are sadly deluded
> at the very least.

---- this is RH and the "new Moon" stuff

> But if you don't, and agree that Ben Creme
> and his minions are full of shit, then welcome
> to the good fight, brother or sister!

---- This is me (I'm Moon from alt.yoga)

Let's say I'm in the other face of the Moon (at least)
Or perhaps I have to move to some other planet, perhaps in other
Galaxy.


(the other) Moon

hbkta@aol.com

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm


Moon wrote:
> jody radzik:
>
> (you are still confused?)


Hi Moon,
you have to give Jody some slack.
Jody is stuck in treya-bot-bashing mode.
and, being stuck there, sees treya-bots even when there is not one.

>
> ---- this is RH and the "new Moon" stuff
>
> ---- This is me (I'm Moon from alt.yoga)
>
> Let's say I'm in the other face of the Moon (at least)
> Or perhaps I have to move to some other planet, perhaps in other
> Galaxy.
>
>
> (the other) Moon


kb

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

Presently, you fools only believe what you see with your two eyes.
That's fine and perfectly understandable. Eventually as you make
progress on your evolutionary journey, your third eye will begin to
open and you will see that there is much more to the picture than meets
the eye. You will also begin to grasp how little you actually know.

You will also learn that a small number of great ones have through
self-initiated discipline and service to mankind, evolved far beyond
the average person.

It's a pity that you're so comfortable with this insane world, where
the blind lead the blind, and where there are lots of people who nod
their heads wisely while speaking stupidly.

That too will pass, like gas.

Take care you sorry pathetic gasbags!

kb

=========

To those who knock, doors WILL be opened.

=========

Visit: http://one.org/

Moon

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

Hi,

I'm quite creative today. I've just made a story:

Once upon a time there was a boy, a brave one.
One day said to his mum:
"Mum, I'm going to the war to fight against the Bad and Evil"
He fetch his gun and went to the war.
During is way to the war, he decided to train a little bit.
He shot everything, killed cats, dogs, birds, kids, lovely old
ladys,...
When he arrived to the war, he was tired and without bullets....
He was the 1st one to fall...

Moon

Moon

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm

Hi kb,

Don't hurry about my 6th chakra (3rd eye) has already opened long ago,
and I'm seeing how ridiculous you are...

Go on to your worship of the Moon, go and have wonderfull meetings with
all your beloved friends.

Azure

2005-10-06, 10:45 pm



Melkuth wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> jody radzik wrote:
>

Well
1. if you start a story hating the concept of the Book, you will never
like or truly understand what you read, it's just a waste of your time.
2. Some "Masters" state they came for assistance, not to lead, and the
story say's there is a rock coming, and the ones who open the doors are
necessary, except for those who want to wait for a big rock to smash
them into non existence.
It appears one is a Door Way to the Universe.
The Other is a Protection Device.
Stop either from being used, all suffer.

Vegadurha
jody radzik

2005-10-10, 6:06 pm

Melkuth wrote:

[snip]

> jody,
>
> Have you concidered that there maybe many streams of experience
> (realities). And it is up to the individual to pick the stream which
> suits their desired experience?


That's a good way of looking at it.
However, not all streams are created
equal. Veracity varies.

If folks want to stuff their heads
full of theosophical nonsense and
pray for the return of their magic
kings, that's their business.

Mine is to tell them they are wasting
their time. No magic king will save
us. It's all right here, right now,
no waiting necessary. It may not be
what they want or expect-and that's
the whole point. The desire and/or
expectations are what keep them from
the truth of their own being, which is
closer than their own breath, as if on
the tip of their noses.

Believing in some fantasy future destroys
what is true in the moment. The Treyabots
conceit is a wisdom and soul-destroying
cul-de-sac. As well as being the biggest
load of spiritual bullshit since the
Inquisition.

jody radzik

2005-10-10, 6:06 pm

kb wrote:

> Presently, you fools only believe what you see with your two eyes.


Apparently, you'll believe whatever garbage floats
into your head or is pimped on you by Ben "Crazy-
As-A-Coconut" Creme.

> That's fine and perfectly understandable. Eventually as you make
> progress on your evolutionary journey, your third eye will begin to
> open and you will see that there is much more to the picture than meets
> the eye. You will also begin to grasp how little you actually know.


Tired Treyabot rhetoric noted. Your whole fairy tale
artifice is dependent on your own intellectual retardation.

> You will also learn that a small number of great ones have through
> self-initiated discipline and service to mankind, evolved far beyond
> the average person.


Your woefully inadequate understanding of spiritual
evolution is noted.

> It's a pity that you're so comfortable with this insane world, where
> the blind lead the blind, and where there are lots of people who nod
> their heads wisely while speaking stupidly.


Samadhi is samsara. You better get used to it, XXXXX.
The magic kings are not coming. They are nothing more
than mere figments of your deluded imagination.

> That too will pass, like gas.


And centuries will pass without your magic kings.

> Take care you sorry pathetic gasbags!
>
> kb


Keep spamming, lamer. That's the only reservoir
of reality your magic kings can lay claim to, the
hopeful nonsense of the sadly deluded wannabes.

> =========
>
> To those who knock, doors WILL be opened.


To those who LOOK, the truth is found wherever
you are, in whatever condition you find yourself
and your world.

> =========
>
> Visit: http://one.org/


For a tour of just how deluded these Treyabots
really are.

jody radzik

2005-10-10, 6:06 pm

Azure wrote:
> Melkuth wrote:
>
> Well
> 1. if you start a story hating the concept of the Book, you will never
> like or truly understand what you read, it's just a waste of your time.


Been there, done that. Got over it.

> 2. Some "Masters" state they came for assistance, not to lead, and the
> story say's there is a rock coming, and the ones who open the doors are
> necessary, except for those who want to wait for a big rock to smash
> them into non existence.
> It appears one is a Door Way to the Universe.
> The Other is a Protection Device.
> Stop either from being used, all suffer.
>
> Vegadurha


Whatever.

The fact is that your magic kings are not coming,
and are completely unnecessary even if they do
exist. It's all right here, right now, despite
your inability to see it and childish yearnings
to remake the world into a lame Dungeons and
Dragons fantasy.

tracym@askme.net

2005-10-26, 11:50 am

On 4 Oct 2005 19:30:42 -0700, "jody radzik" <jodyrrr@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Moon wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>
>Well, if you believe magic kings (ascended
>masters) will save us, you are sadly deluded
>at the very least.
>
>But if you don't, and agree that Ben Creme
>and his minions are full of shit, then welcome
>to the good fight, brother or sister!



What is the good fight? Are you fighting against all cults?
It;s usually a waste of time, and the people that want to be
in cults, are going to be in cults.

People who want to believe in magic kings are not going to
wake up because of you.

tracy
Azure

2005-10-26, 11:50 am



tracym@askme.net wrote:
>
> On 4 Oct 2005 19:30:42 -0700, "jody radzik" <jodyrrr@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> What is the good fight? Are you fighting against all cults?
> It;s usually a waste of time, and the people that want to be
> in cults, are going to be in cults.
>
> People who want to believe in magic kings are not going to
> wake up because of you.
>
> tracy


;-)
Wegona_BeFree

2005-10-27, 6:47 pm

puma wrote:

>You are in a deep sleep....The phase of the moon has no relation with
>any energy...If it had so we wud see it scientifically....


>Get up AWAKE man! Do not sleep.


It's not too smart to put much trust in our scientist's dim view of
the metaphysical aspects of life. Their vision is so poor and limited
that they only recognize the physical plane. They can't even tell you
what happens when people 'die'. They don't even know what the purpose
of life is, nor are they able to see the civilizations on some of the
planets in our solar system that are far more evolved than ours.
Compared to them, we are far from being civilized. The blind lead the
blind. You're telling others to wake up? You're only mumbling in your
sleep. You're connected to the illusion (the matrix) and dreaming that
you are awake. Thankfully the cosmic wheel turns and hope looms in both
the present and the horizon. This is despite the fact that the USA is
bottoming out - as the most vain of all nations, and the #1 obstacle to
world peace.

http://www.One.org

The time to wipe the scourge of poverty from the face of this earth is
now!

jody radzik

2005-10-27, 6:47 pm

Wegona_BeFree wrote:

[snip]

> They don't even know what the purpose
> of life is, nor are they able to see the civilizations on some of the
> planets in our solar system that are far more evolved than ours.


Quick! Break out the tin foil hats!

RH

2005-10-29, 11:43 am

Jody persistently comes across as someone who is or was a chain smoker
or alcholic (or both) who goes around saying "been there done that" all
the time in a loud, dull voice like you'd expect from a dreadfully
bored, and unhappy old XXXXX. She seems to be an atheist who looks for
trouble in an area where the average people know (or believe) that
there is much more to the picture (that modern scientists present) than
meets the eye. The dreadfully cynical and arrogant XXXXX, is very
generous with her rabid manure. She's just as repulsive as any of the
many preachers of hate and cyncism in the USA now. Like them, she moves
people with negative emotions and hatred instead of factual information
and love. It's good to recognize and ignore sad old gasbags like that.
Eventually she'll evolve.

RH

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cynical
Function: adjective
..=2E. contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives ...based on
or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by
self-interest <a cynical ploy to cheat customers>

- cyn=B7i=B7cal=B7ly /-k(&-)lE/ adverb
synonyms CYNICAL, MISANTHROPIC, PESSIMISTIC mean deeply distrustful.
CYNICAL implies having a sneering disbelief in sincerity or integrity
<cynical about politicians' motives>. MISANTHROPIC suggests a rooted
distrust and dislike of human beings and their society <a solitary and
misanthropic artist>. PESSIMISTIC implies having a gloomy, distrustful
view of life <pessimistic about the future>.

----------------------------

"They that deny a God destroy man's nobility;
for certainly man is kin to the beasts by his body;
and if he be not kin to God by his spirit,
he is a base and ignoble creature." Sir Francis Bacon

----------------------------

"Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and
take for granted, nor to find talk and discourse, but
to weigh and consider." Sir Francis Bacon

----------------------------

Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice. Justice
at
its best is love correcting everything that stands against love."
Martin Luther King
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The time to get Bush the hell out of the white house and the troops out
of iraq is now:

http://www.ImpeachBush.org

it's also time to wipe the scourge of poverty from the face of our
planet:

http://www.one.org


<><><>

The truth will set our asses free. Continuing to accept the lies of
cynics, like lies of f'd up politicians, will only keep us in chains.

Collier

2005-10-30, 6:25 pm

RH wrote:

> Jody persistently comes across as someone who is or was a chain smoker


At least he's not a 'Master' sucker.

He's speaking valid points, yet all you can offer is personal attacks -- proof
of the emptiness and corruption of your weird little cult.


> or alcholic (or both) who goes around saying "been there done that" all
> the time in a loud, dull voice like you'd expect from a dreadfully
> bored, and unhappy old XXXXX. She seems to be an atheist who looks for
> trouble in an area where the average people know (or believe) that
> there is much more to the picture (that modern scientists present) than
> meets the eye. The dreadfully cynical and arrogant XXXXX, is very
> generous with her rabid manure. She's just as repulsive as any of the
> many preachers of hate and cyncism in the USA now. Like them, she moves
> people with negative emotions and hatred instead of factual information
> and love. It's good to recognize and ignore sad old gasbags like that.
> Eventually she'll evolve.
>
> RH
>
> ===================
>
> cynical
> Function: adjective
> ... contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives ...based on
> or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by
> self-interest <a cynical ploy to cheat customers>
>
> - cyn·i·cal·ly /-k(&-)lE/ adverb
> synonyms CYNICAL, MISANTHROPIC, PESSIMISTIC mean deeply distrustful.
> CYNICAL implies having a sneering disbelief in sincerity or integrity
> <cynical about politicians' motives>. MISANTHROPIC suggests a rooted
> distrust and dislike of human beings and their society <a solitary and
> misanthropic artist>. PESSIMISTIC implies having a gloomy, distrustful
> view of life <pessimistic about the future>.
>
> ----------------------------
>
> "They that deny a God destroy man's nobility;
> for certainly man is kin to the beasts by his body;
> and if he be not kin to God by his spirit,
> he is a base and ignoble creature." Sir Francis Bacon
>
> ----------------------------
>
> "Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and
> take for granted, nor to find talk and discourse, but
> to weigh and consider." Sir Francis Bacon
>
> ----------------------------
>
> Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice. Justice
> at
> its best is love correcting everything that stands against love."
> Martin Luther King
> ===================
> The time to get Bush the hell out of the white house and the troops out
> of iraq is now:
>
> http://www.ImpeachBush.org
>
> it's also time to wipe the scourge of poverty from the face of our
> planet:
>
> http://www.one.org
>
>
> <><><>
>
> The truth will set our asses free. Continuing to accept the lies of
> cynics, like lies of f'd up politicians, will only keep us in chains.


Maximus

2005-10-30, 6:25 pm

When you consider that Collier has a history of making negative and
baseless allegations, it's not suprising to see him stooping there with
one of the preachers of cyncism.
Max

RH

2005-10-30, 6:25 pm

For years, i've seen the extreme cynic Jody launch unprovoked, rabid
personal attacks upon people who know (or believe) things that she
doesn't, and finally despite the unpleasant nature of the task, i
responded to an urge to speak my mind, rather than ignore her obnoxious
gas.

Her arrogance leads her to speak like one who is quite 'sure' that she
knows it all. She seems to think that if there truly were any people
who were far more evolved than average people, that she would be the
first to know - as if they would come to her to ask what to do, as if
she'd be their queen.

Her absurd attitude of cynicism and arrogance is more widespread in the
USA now than ever before. It rears its ugly face all over the globe and
gives people just cause to think of Americans as "ugly americans". Her
methods are like those of many loudmouthed moronic preachers and talk
show hosts, gasbags of hatred, cynicism and ignorance. Far as I'm
concerned, they're all sick, twisted, and best ignored at least - 99%
of the time.

The truth clearly spoken, and widely known - will set our asses free
from the poisonous, contageous attitudes of dreadfully ignorant and
cynical loud mouths, preachers of hatred and separation, warmongering
corrupt and incompetent politicians, and insanely greedy capitalists.
The truth must be shared sometimes - even though it's not always
pleasant to do so.

RH
-----------------

cyn=B7i=B7cal
Function: adjective
..=2E.contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives ...
..=2E.based on or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated
primarily by self-interest
..=2E. deeply distrustful... having a sneering disbelief in sincerity or
integrity
..=2E. having a gloomy, distrustful view of life...

(source: http://www.m-w.com)

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"Truth like the sun, submits to be obscured;
but like the sun, only for a time." Bovee

Azure

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm



Collier wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
>

Ancients said the Sun burned away the evil of the Darkness and gave
warmth and light to mankind.
Collier

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm

Azure wrote:

>
>
> Collier wrote:
>
> Ancients said the Sun burned away the evil of the Darkness and gave
> warmth and light to mankind.


That's why we don't need to meditate in the dark like those people in
Transmission Meditation.
Azure

2005-11-12, 6:09 pm



Collier wrote:
>
> Azure wrote:
>
>
> That's why we don't need to meditate in the dark like those people in
> Transmission Meditation.


A Bar IS,
I am.
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