Yoga - Boilding down.. will you compart your veg diet's secrets?

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Boilding down.. will you compart your veg diet's secrets?

Andoni

2004-08-17, 7:12 am

Hi,
I hadn't read so many post on vegetarianism out of a veg group... for
sure.

I've been investigating about the best and most brain-soul-nourishing
aliments. These're:
1.Sprouts.
2.Sea weed.
3.Fresh fruit (remarking: melon, grapes/raisins, bananas, pinneapple,
kiwis, papayas, oranges, dates, figs and some others which are
specifically low carb, not all, but which alkalyze blood).
4.Some herbs (ginkgo, tea and thyme).
5.Nuts.
6.Some suplements as brewer yeast, wheat germ, soy lecithin, pollen,
etc...
7.Mineral water.
8.Fresh vegetable (if they're bitter then better, because of folic
acid).
9.Seeds and meals made with them as tahin (sesame dough),...
10.Legumes (specially garbanzos, lentils, peas and peanuts).
11.Others, as kefir, kombucha and the-like.
12.Vegetable proteins from soy derived products as tempeh, for
example, or others.

I'd like to know any opinnion on this and what you eat to have a
healthy body and a clear and sharp mind.

And what's up with dairies?, it seems yoga let us eat dairies but in
some text I have read that to attain a complete enlightment it must be
given its use up.

Thanks for your viewpoints.

jai hanuman

2004-08-17, 7:24 pm

"Andoni" <andonitxo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f710cceb.0408170312.78b1a7cb@posting.google.com...
>
> And what's up with dairies?, it seems yoga let us eat dairies but in
> some text I have read that to attain a complete enlightment it must be
> given its use up.
>

you can eat whatever is reasonable. just be egoless about it.

usually that would mean you are more compassionate and therefore
vegetarian ... but plants are alive too ...

moderate lifestyle is recommended for most beginners because an extravagant
one is just a symptom of vanity...

omjaram

2004-08-18, 4:09 am

In article <f710cceb.0408170312.78b1a7cb@posting.google.com>,
andonitxo@yahoo.com (Andoni) wrote:

> Hi,
> I hadn't read so many post on vegetarianism out of a veg group... for
> sure.
>
> I've been investigating about the best and most brain-soul-nourishing
> aliments. These're:
> 1.Sprouts.
> 2.Sea weed.
> 3.Fresh fruit (remarking: melon, grapes/raisins, bananas, pinneapple,
> kiwis, papayas, oranges, dates, figs and some others which are
> specifically low carb, not all, but which alkalyze blood).
> 4.Some herbs (ginkgo, tea and thyme).
> 5.Nuts.
> 6.Some suplements as brewer yeast, wheat germ, soy lecithin, pollen,
> etc...
> 7.Mineral water.
> 8.Fresh vegetable (if they're bitter then better, because of folic
> acid).
> 9.Seeds and meals made with them as tahin (sesame dough),...
> 10.Legumes (specially garbanzos, lentils, peas and peanuts).
> 11.Others, as kefir, kombucha and the-like.
> 12.Vegetable proteins from soy derived products as tempeh, for
> example, or others.
>
> I'd like to know any opinnion on this and what you eat to have a
> healthy body and a clear and sharp mind.
>
> And what's up with dairies?, it seems yoga let us eat dairies but in
> some text I have read that to attain a complete enlightment it must be
> given its use up.
>
> Thanks for your viewpoints.

In article <f710cceb.0408170312.78b1a7cb@posting.google.com>,
andonitxo@yahoo.com (Andoni) wrote:

> Hi,
> I hadn't read so many post on vegetarianism out of a veg group... for
> sure.
snip
>
> Thanks for your viewpoints.

Andoni,

I read your post with much interest. Very interesting approach, sort of
bottom lining (boiling down is a more "cooking flavored" description) an
issue. I like it.

Concerning my bottom lines for food. After 25 years of study and
experimentation and near twice that long of a love/hate relationship
with food, here's my offering. Please remember this is my synthesis, my
goal, my experience and process, it's not meant to be an edict for
anyone else. Just like food from my table, take whatever you like and
leave the rest :-)

Water is the only beverage I should drink. With the exception of juices
while fasting. Beer and wine occasionally (until I can replace it with
meditation) to help remind me of what it is like to exist without fear
(my goal in life :-)

Eating . As close to the sun and/or earth as possible! As natural as
possible. As high in quality as possible. As unrefined as possible.
Cooked as little as appropriate. Enjoy any and all of the "fruits" of
this world, which God has provided for me to eat, be it from plants or
animals but refrain from killing that which feeds me. If I want to or
must kill to eat, then when possible, I should kill it personally. When
I take a life (plant, animal or insect) I bless that which I kill and
thank it for giving it¹s life to sustain mine. From a practical point of
view it is much easier for me to abstain from eating animal foods then
it is to personally kill them. First of all I don't live any where near
where the animals are raised. Secondly I have little stomach for killing
things. I still eat meat but it is becoming nearly impossible for me to
abide by the torture and suffering the animals must endure to feed me. I
believe meat to be absurdly inefficient nutrition for humans. Meat is
very far from the sun and one must kill that which is providing the
food. This not only seems spiritually and morally reprehensible but also
very unintelligent.

I agree with the Paavo Airola optimum diet consisting, in order of
importance, of grains, legumes, beans, seeds, nuts, vegetables and
fruits. Eaten in moderation, with enjoyment and appreciation.

Systematic under eating. Less I eat, longer I live. Famous rat studies,
cut the food in half and doubled the life span.

Mental, emotional and spiritual state are more important to health and
quality of life, then food. I once saw and interview with a man who
lived to be ninety plus and eat nothing but boloney and white bread
sandwiches (with an occasional hot dog for variety) for his entire life.
Also I have read of others (Autobiography of a yogi) who have lived on
no food or water for years and years.

Fasting. Along with learning to breath properly, mediation and smiling,
fasting is the most important healing and rejuvenating habit I have
acquired. I have been fasting for about 15 years and can fast fairly
comfortably to 14 days.

I have allergies to certain foods. I have worked hard to find out what
they are and stop eating the offending food. Hint: it's always one of my
craving, "to die for" foods. If I can't even conceive of giving up a
certain food you can bet I am allergic to it. Works the same for any
thing I bring into my body and includes behaviors as well.

Salt. Unnecessary and a real health destroyer. Incredibly addicting.
Sugar, even worse then salt. Both are poison for me.

With regard to food I believe each of us needs to study, experiment and
become "as a law unto ourselves". Food is a very individual and personal
matter. I am the only one in a position to know what is best for me. I
must take responsibility for my health and happiness and learn what is
best to do and/or to stop doing. And then develop the discipline to do
or not do what I must.

Namaste

jai hanuman

2004-08-20, 11:14 am

Andoni

2004-08-21, 7:28 am

Hello again,

your post has been very interesting too. I see there's more people
interested in this subject, but viewing so many post on vegetarianism
I can't explain why people don't speak on this other tread. Wouldn't
be more practical to write between we all a rule-booklet to improve
our brain's functioning and our health?. I think there's a lot of
misunderstanding on vegetarianism (and that's a fact I can observe in
my country, cause Spain (Basque Country) is an absolute flesh-eating
country).
I've been reading a lot of stuff on it and in more grade from foreign
writers (mainly americans) because I don't completely agree with all
that yoga-diets I've seen, nor with some yoga's ancient texts.
Anyway I'm not a sage, of course, and I'm not here to teach someone,
but I use to experiment with my own body too much and in some few
years I've seen some interesting conclusions which are reflected in
that list I posted in the first post.
I must say I forgot some other food:
-Lemons.
-Brown rice.
-Chucrut.
-Ginger and miso.
-Chinese mushrooms.
-Avocado.
-Onion, olive oil, oat, pomeloes, and garlic.

That rawness (close to earth...) you point out is very important too
due to raw food's bioelectricity and enzyme richness. This theory is
explained extensively in Essene's diet and I found a very important
basis in it.

Intestine cleanness is another important point. A vegetarian diet
introduces a lot of fiber in the digestive track and in a stressful
life sometimes is complicate to expel it all. Enemas once a week can
make miracles and lighten the body. And this same practice combined
with fasting is the best approach once a year. I've only been able to
last a fast for 5 days, but the experience is worth of it. For sure to
fast is the best way to challenge yourself and your will power cause
in occident food is omnipresent in our daily lives.

I was too in a hate/love relationship with food but fasting has been
the inflexion point which has taught me that my willpower is stronger
than I thought.

Greetings.
Andoni.

omjaram

2004-08-25, 12:38 pm