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David Dalton

2004-11-04, 7:15 pm

Months ago I am sure my attempt to pass on access
to my batch of healing components did not work.

Recently it has seemed to, at least intuitively,
work in some individual cases.

Thus I attempted it on a massive group basis again.

About 20 minutes ago I passed on access to my batch of
(derived by me with my avatar type abilities) healing
components, not for induction of illness, to all
someones in gdnabasedspecies+gviralspecies who have
one or more of the following abilities or ability sets.
Note that basic wide range special abilities has
1/3 healer ability and 1/6 green thumb and
1/6 fish stock regeneration ability. By
wide range I mean a large number of subset abiilities
pluss better ability to do magick in general.

wide range special abilities posibly with topup or topups
strong healer
healer
mental health healer
steadier/stabilizer
obsession reducer
fish stock regeneration ability
green thumb
forestry green thumb
non-woody plant green thumb
veterinarian ability or analogy
any other standalone ability that is a subset of
strong healer ability, if any

What the access to my batch of healing components
would mean should be the ability to heal stuff they
could not before and/or improvement in ability to
heal something they could before to some extent
but now may be able to to a greater extent.

Having such access does not mean anyone is a
loveagent and again note there is a restriction
such that the components cannot be used for
induction of illness.

If this proves true, please pass this on to other
healers you know worldwide.

David
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton
David Dalton

2004-11-04, 7:15 pm

I just tried to make the pass on ongoing such that e.g.
a human with strong healer ability in 500 years time
will also get the access, not just those as of today,
and even after I am dead. I do not know if this worked.

David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote in article
<d6b8511f.0411041533.1b1d6ea9@posting.google.com>...
> Months ago I am sure my attempt to pass on access
> to my batch of healing components did not work.
>
> Recently it has seemed to, at least intuitively,
> work in some individual cases.
>
> Thus I attempted it on a massive group basis again.
>
> About 20 minutes ago I passed on access to my batch of
> (derived by me with my avatar type abilities) healing
> components, not for induction of illness, to all
> someones in gdnabasedspecies+gviralspecies who have
> one or more of the following abilities or ability sets.
> Note that basic wide range special abilities has
> 1/3 healer ability and 1/6 green thumb and
> 1/6 fish stock regeneration ability. By
> wide range I mean a large number of subset abiilities
> pluss better ability to do magick in general.
>
> wide range special abilities posibly with topup or topups
> strong healer
> healer
> mental health healer
> steadier/stabilizer
> obsession reducer
> fish stock regeneration ability
> green thumb
> forestry green thumb
> non-woody plant green thumb
> veterinarian ability or analogy
> any other standalone ability that is a subset of
> strong healer ability, if any
>
> What the access to my batch of healing components
> would mean should be the ability to heal stuff they
> could not before and/or improvement in ability to
> heal something they could before to some extent
> but now may be able to to a greater extent.
>
> Having such access does not mean anyone is a
> loveagent and again note there is a restriction
> such that the components cannot be used for
> induction of illness.
>
> If this proves true, please pass this on to other
> healers you know worldwide.
>
> David
> http://www.nfld.com/~dalton
>

David Dalton

2004-11-04, 7:15 pm



David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote in article
<01c4c2cd$3b223bc0$88d19986@gordon>...
> I just tried to make the pass on ongoing such that e.g.
> a human with strong healer ability in 500 years time
> will also get the access, not just those as of today,
> and even after I am dead. I do not know if this worked.


I just made the ongoing bit apply to descendants
of gdnabasedspecies+gviralspecies even if said
descendants are eventually outside the group
gdnabasedspecies+gviralspecies (i.e. are eventually
conceived or analogy outside the sphere with
centre at the centre of the earth and radius to
100,000 km beyond the far side of the moon).

Test out the anti-addiction stuff, for sure.

David

Alexander Mulligan

2004-11-04, 10:10 pm

In alt.magick, David Dalton wrote:
>
>
> David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote in article
><01c4c2cd$3b223bc0$88d19986@gordon>...
>
> I just made the ongoing bit apply to descendants
> of gdnabasedspecies+gviralspecies even if said
> descendants are eventually outside the group
> gdnabasedspecies+gviralspecies (i.e. are eventually
> conceived or analogy outside the sphere with
> centre at the centre of the earth and radius to
> 100,000 km beyond the far side of the moon).
>
> Test out the anti-addiction stuff, for sure.
>
> David
>


These articles remind me of my favorite George W. Bush
quote:

"The French don't even have a _word_ for 'entrepreneur'!"



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David Wright

2004-11-04, 10:10 pm

In article <2v03fcF2fhataU1@uni-berlin.de>,
Alexander Mulligan <alexander@mail2america.com> wrote:
>In alt.magick, David Dalton wrote:
>
>These articles remind me of my favorite George W. Bush
>quote:
>
>"The French don't even have a _word_ for 'entrepreneur'!"


Not that I hold any admiration for Bush, but that particular
"quotation" is a fabrication.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)



Alexander Mulligan

2004-11-04, 10:10 pm

In alt.magick, David Wright wrote:
> In article <2v03fcF2fhataU1@uni-berlin.de>,
> Alexander Mulligan <alexander@mail2america.com> wrote:
>
> Not that I hold any admiration for Bush, but that particular
> "quotation" is a fabrication.



No. It is not. I saw it on the CBC website, in context, when
the Neocons were going apeshit over France refusing to support
America's brutal and illegal invasion of Iraq.

You remember. When they renamed french fries "freedom fries"?

Those cuties were just frothing at the mouth.

>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
> These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.


Are you sure you aren't a "W" supporter? You are as arrogant and
ignorant as he is.


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Bells Ring Under Cerulean Ecstasy

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David Dalton

2004-11-04, 10:10 pm



David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote in article
<d6b8511f.0411041533.1b1d6ea9@posting.google.com>...
> Months ago I am sure my attempt to pass on access
> to my batch of healing components did not work.
>
> Recently it has seemed to, at least intuitively,
> work in some individual cases.


Two things were going on. I would pass on access
to a healer and then intuit by base chakra area muscle
click divination that the healer then healed someone
known to him or her using the components. But
in other cases I would apply healing to a sick individual
(e.g. Yassar Arafat) and then similarly intuit that a
healer who knew the individual had then pushed completion
of that healing.

So with that second thing in mind, I just applied healing
to all in gdnabasedspecies+gviralspecies as of a few
minutes ago.

However most of the components will need pushing to
completion by one with one of the abilities I have listed
in this thread (and note that green thumb I think will
mainly benefit from components related to plant healing).
But the advantage of this second thing is that the components
needing pushing may stand out, e.g. say if someone needs
healing of their homophobia, that might stand out.

David

David Wright

2004-11-05, 2:10 am

In article <2v09pkF2f361fU1@uni-berlin.de>,
Alexander Mulligan <alexander@mail2america.com> wrote:
>In alt.magick, David Wright wrote:
>
>
>No. It is not. I saw it on the CBC website, in context, when
>the Neocons were going apeshit over France refusing to support
>America's brutal and illegal invasion of Iraq.
>
>You remember. When they renamed french fries "freedom fries"?
>
>Those cuties were just frothing at the mouth.
>
>
>Are you sure you aren't a "W" supporter? You are as arrogant and
>ignorant as he is.


Snopes says it's bullshit and I'll take them, thanks. See:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm

And believe me, it was a sad day (as far as I'm concerned) when Dubya
was re-elected. Or elected for the first time, depending on your
views of 2000.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)



David Dalton

2004-11-05, 2:10 am



David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote in article
<d6b8511f.0411041533.1b1d6ea9@posting.google.com>...
> Months ago I am sure my attempt to pass on access
> to my batch of healing components did not work.
>
> Recently it has seemed to, at least intuitively,
> work in some individual cases.
>
> Thus I attempted it on a massive group basis again.
>
> About 20 minutes ago I passed on access to my batch of
> (derived by me with my avatar type abilities) healing
> components, not for induction of illness, to all
> someones in gdnabasedspecies+gviralspecies who have
> one or more of the following abilities or ability sets.
> Note that basic wide range special abilities has
> 1/3 healer ability and 1/6 green thumb and
> 1/6 fish stock regeneration ability. By
> wide range I mean a large number of subset abiilities
> pluss better ability to do magick in general.
>
> wide range special abilities posibly with topup or topups
> strong healer
> healer
> mental health healer
> steadier/stabilizer
> obsession reducer
> fish stock regeneration ability
> green thumb
> forestry green thumb
> non-woody plant green thumb
> veterinarian ability or analogy
> any other standalone ability that is a subset of
> strong healer ability, if any



I also over a half hour ago passed on, as mentioned in
the "funneling update" thread on talk.religion.misc ,
loveagent stuff to each loveagent other than me. That
includes access to my batch of healing components
so loveagents even without one of the above abilities
should now have such access. Thus e.g. a loveagent
without one of such abilities but knowledgeable in
bioenergetic, spiritual and/or magickal healing should
notice some improvement in healing capability. (But
a loveagent with strong healer ability and knowledge
of the same techniques would be much more effective.)


>
> What the access to my batch of healing components
> would mean should be the ability to heal stuff they
> could not before and/or improvement in ability to
> heal something they could before to some extent
> but now may be able to to a greater extent.
>
> Having such access does not mean anyone is a
> loveagent and again note there is a restriction
> such that the components cannot be used for
> induction of illness.
>
> If this proves true, please pass this on to other
> healers you know worldwide.
>
> David
> http://www.nfld.com/~dalton
>

Joshua

2004-11-08, 2:08 am

David Wright wrote:
>
>
> Snopes says it's bullshit and I'll take them, thanks. See:
>
> http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm


But Snopes relies on information from Alaistair Campbell.

The same Alastair Campbell who was the UK Government's director of
communications and whose plagiarised, "sexed up" and discredited
material on weapons of mass destruction was the basis for Britain's part
in the Iraqi invasion.

Credible? Hardly.
suzee

2004-11-08, 11:09 am

Joshua wrote:
>
> David Wright wrote:
>
> But Snopes relies on information from Alaistair Campbell.
>
> The same Alastair Campbell who was the UK Government's director of
> communications and whose plagiarised, "sexed up" and discredited
> material on weapons of mass destruction was the basis for Britain's part
> in the Iraqi invasion.
>
> Credible? Hardly.


I thought snopes.com received information from throughout the world,
contributed by individuals and checked out by researching as much as
possible. As the site owners are based in Southern California, I can't
see that they'd `rely on information' from a British government
director.

sue

Snoops

2004-11-08, 7:12 pm

In article <418F8085.A48688FA@imbris.com>, suzeeq@imbris.com says...
>
>Joshua wrote:
>
>I thought snopes.com received information from throughout the world,
>contributed by individuals and checked out by researching as much as
>possible. As the site owners are based in Southern California, I can't
>see that they'd `rely on information' from a British government
>director.
>


Actually they do rely on information they've verified as being reliable.

suzee

2004-11-08, 10:08 pm

Snoops wrote:
>
> In article <418F8085.A48688FA@imbris.com>, suzeeq@imbris.com says...
>
> Actually they do rely on information they've verified as being reliable.


That's what their site says, and it appears that they have looked into
things as thoroughly as they they were able to track them down.

sue

Snoopy vs. Ivory Coast Airforce

2004-11-08, 10:08 pm

In article <41902442.62CA522F@imbris.com>, suzeeq@imbris.com says...
>
>Snoops wrote:
>
>That's what their site says, and it appears that they have looked into
>things as thoroughly as they they were able to track them down.
>


Right, the point is that a British government director who is accused of
"sexing up" the intelligence on WMD had nothing to do with assessing George
Bush's quote about entrepreneurs. We don't even know what information the
poster is alleging Snopes obtained from Alastair Campbell pertained to, but it
certainly had nothing to do with this quote. Therefore, the poster is engaging
in the age-old fallacy of persecution known as Poisoning the Well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well

Poisoning the well is a preemptive logical fallacy where unfavourable
information about someone is presented to an audience, with the intent of
discrediting everything said by that person beforehand.

The origin of this phrase comes from the belief in medieval times that
outbreaks of plague were caused by Jews poisoning the water supply. Suggesting
that someone was not to be trusted after accusing them of the unrelated crime
of poisoning the water was effective rhetoric, but bad logic.

Examples:

Before you listen to my opponent, may I remind you that he has been in jail.

Don't listen to what he says, he's a lawyer.

Poisoning the well is a special case of argumentum ad hominem.


David Wright

2004-11-08, 10:08 pm

In article <418F8085.A48688FA@imbris.com>, suzee <qiuser@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Joshua wrote:
>
>I thought snopes.com received information from throughout the world,
>contributed by individuals and checked out by researching as much as
>possible. As the site owners are based in Southern California, I can't
>see that they'd `rely on information' from a British government
>director.


Yes, but you see, our dear Joshua is not able to comprehend the idea
that he might be mistaken.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)



suzee

2004-11-09, 11:09 am

David Wright wrote:
>
> In article <418F8085.A48688FA@imbris.com>, suzee <qiuser@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, but you see, our dear Joshua is not able to comprehend the idea
> that he might be mistaken.


Ahh yes. There's one like that in every group.

sue

Joshua

2004-11-09, 10:08 pm

Snoopy vs. Ivory Coast Airforce wrote:
> In article <41902442.62CA522F@imbris.com>, suzeeq@imbris.com says...
>

Read the article. The only quote supporting their position is from
Alaistair Campbell.
[vbcol=seagreen]

They should have looked more closely. Campbell was a paid public
relations officer. His bias is clear.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Right, the point is that a British government director who is accused of
> "sexing up" the intelligence on WMD had nothing to do with assessing George
> Bush's quote about entrepreneurs. We don't even know what information the
> poster is alleging Snopes obtained from Alastair Campbell pertained to, but it
> certainly had nothing to do with this quote.


Here's Campbell's quote from the Snopes article, since you missed it.

"'I can tell you that the prime minister never heard George Bush say
that, and he certainly never told Shirley Williams that President Bush
did say it,' Campbell told The Post."

> Therefore, the poster is engaging
> in the age-old fallacy of persecution known as Poisoning the Well.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well
>
> Poisoning the well is a preemptive logical fallacy where unfavourable
> information about someone is presented to an audience, with the intent of
> discrediting everything said by that person beforehand.
>
> The origin of this phrase comes from the belief in medieval times that
> outbreaks of plague were caused by Jews poisoning the water supply. Suggesting
> that someone was not to be trusted after accusing them of the unrelated crime
> of poisoning the water was effective rhetoric, but bad logic.
>
> Examples:
>
> Before you listen to my opponent, may I remind you that he has been in jail.
>
> Don't listen to what he says, he's a lawyer.
>
> Poisoning the well is a special case of argumentum ad hominem.


Argumentum ad hominem is not always fallacious, and it is not fallacious
in this case. My argument is not that his questionable dossiers
discredit the Snopes information, but that Campbell was a biased source
as he was when he made the WMD claims.

Campbell was the communications director of the Blair government, paid
to protect Mr. Blair's public image and would have been negligent in his
role had he confirmed Blair's comment to Williams, if Blair did in fact
make such a comment.

I'm not saying that Bush made the entrepreneur quote. I am however
critical of the Snopes claim that he did not.
Joshua

2004-11-09, 10:08 pm

David Wright wrote:
> In article <418F8085.A48688FA@imbris.com>, suzee <qiuser@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, but you see, our dear Joshua is not able to comprehend the idea
> that he might be mistaken.


What is it I am mistaken about?
Garry Williams

2004-11-10, 2:14 am

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:20:58 +1100, Joshua <josh@usenet> wrote:

<generous snip to save bandwidth>

>Read the article. The only quote supporting their position is from
>Alaistair Campbell.


These are the references at the end of the snopes article. Although it
is possible that all 4 sources failed to verify the veracity of their
sources, one would hope that the odds would be against that happening.


Fitchett, Joseph. "The Global Class: Word for It."
The International Herald Tribune. 11 July 2002 (p. 18).

Grove, Lloyd. "The Reliable Source."
The Washington Post. 10 July 2002 (p. C3).

Malvern, Jack. "Bush and Blair."
The [London] Times. 9 July 2002 (p. 18).

Smith, Liz. "Stovepipe Dreams."
Newsday. 12 July 2002 (p. A13).


Joshua

2004-11-10, 2:14 am

David Wright wrote:
>
>
> Snopes says it's bullshit and I'll take them, thanks. See:
>
> http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm


But Snopes relies on information from Alaistair Campbell.

The same Alastair Campbell who was the UK Government's director of
communications and whose plagiarised, "sexed up" and discredited
material on weapons of mass destruction was the basis for Britain's part
in the Iraqi invasion.

Credible? Hardly.
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