Prostate - How much do you pee overnight?

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How much do you pee overnight?

Repeating Rifle

2004-10-07, 7:10 pm

This is not meant to be a oissing contest.

After two TUMT procedures, I still have to get up at night more often than I
would like. I have a bucket near my bed so I do not have to stumble to the
bathroom in the dark. No matter how thirsty I am at night I always manage to
void over one liter. I estimate this is done about 250 mL at a time.

Thus, I wonder if any kind of BPH treatment is going to be all that useful.
I still would have to get up at least twice at night even if my bladder held
twice as much.

Question 1. Wow much do you pee at night and how often do you have to get
up?

Question 2. Has anyone had success in reducing the rate of urine production
overnight?

Bill

Uncle

2004-10-08, 11:08 am

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 20:21:47 GMT, Repeating Rifle wrote:

>This is not meant to be a oissing contest.
>
>After two TUMT procedures, I still have to get up at night more often than I
>would like. I have a bucket near my bed so I do not have to stumble to the
>bathroom in the dark. No matter how thirsty I am at night I always manage to
>void over one liter. I estimate this is done about 250 mL at a time.
>
>Thus, I wonder if any kind of BPH treatment is going to be all that useful.
>I still would have to get up at least twice at night even if my bladder held
>twice as much.
>
>Question 1. Wow much do you pee at night and how often do you have to get
>up?
>
>Question 2. Has anyone had success in reducing the rate of urine production
>overnight?
>
>Bill

In my case, I have been able to reduce my night trips by eliminating
the diuretic I was taking for high blood pressure and substituting
another BP drug. I was taking ACE inhibitor plus diuretic, now trying
ACE inhibitor plus AR blocker. My blood pressure is still a little too
high and I intend to try different meds, but I have reduced my night
trips to one. My output on the one night trip varies from 250 to 400
ml. Total including my output in the morning has been around 800 ml.
Previously I made 2 to 3 trips per night, even after my PVP (Dec.
2003). I drink 60 or more ounces of liquids each day (water, decaf
coffee, tea) to prevent recurrence of kidney stones. If I reduced my
liquid intake I might get through the night without getting up, but
once a night is acceptable for me.

So if you are taking blood pressure meds, ask your doctor if they are
diuretics and ask him to change them to a non-diuretic drug. Or you
might be collecting fluid in your legs during the day which flows out
when you're lying down. Then ask the Dr. for a fast-acting diuretic
that you take in late afternoon or early evening so it's all gone
before bedtime. You could also keep track of the amount of liquid you
drink during the day and if it is excessive, try to reduce it to
60-64 ounces .

--
Uncle

Richard F. Somer

2004-10-08, 7:10 pm

In article <BD8AF382.2537E%salmonegg@sbcglobal.net>,
Repeating Rifle <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>This is not meant to be a oissing contest.
>
>After two TUMT procedures, I still have to get up at night more often than I
>would like. I have a bucket near my bed so I do not have to stumble to the
>bathroom in the dark. No matter how thirsty I am at night I always manage to
>void over one liter. I estimate this is done about 250 mL at a time.
>
>Thus, I wonder if any kind of BPH treatment is going to be all that useful.
>I still would have to get up at least twice at night even if my bladder held
>twice as much.
>
>Question 1. Wow much do you pee at night and how often do you have to get
>up?
>
>Question 2. Has anyone had success in reducing the rate of urine production
>overnight?
>
>Bill

One of the reasons I was eager to have the PVP was to reduce the number
of times I was getting up in the night to urinate. I had the PVP done in
early December 2003. During and following the healing, I was able to
empty my bladder for the first time in years--now I know what an empty
bladder feels like. Now I never have the sense of urgency or dribbling
afterward. But the nighttime frequency has not diminished much. It now
varies between two and five times a night--from less than a liter to
over two liters--but I sleep better because of emptying my bladder. I
spoke with Dr. Te, who did the operation, about this, and he says it is
not a prostate issue. Blood tests taken for my GP show slightly high
glucose--which can cause frequent urination. So I am now on medication
to improve that, and it should moderate the nocturia. I note that
physical activity during the day is usually beneficial.

You might seek to find out whether you have a problem with retention.

Good luck.

Dick

P.S. I am still a great believer in the PVP for BPH and would do it
again.

--
Richard F. Somer

I have always made it a rule never to smoke more than one pipe at the same time.
(adapted from Mark Twain)

Jim W.

2004-10-08, 7:10 pm

I agree Richard. I do almost as much volume as you at night - I'm up to
300-350 ml for my nighttime pees which is a big improvement for me. I also
produce urine very rapidly but if my bladder capacity continues to improve I
am more than happy to live with fewer - if frequent bathroom trips. Jim W.

> One of the reasons I was eager to have the PVP was to reduce the number
> of times I was getting up in the night to urinate. I had the PVP done in
> early December 2003. During and following the healing, I was able to
> empty my bladder for the first time in years--now I know what an empty
> bladder feels like. Now I never have the sense of urgency or dribbling
> afterward. But the nighttime frequency has not diminished much. It now
> varies between two and five times a night--from less than a liter to
> over two liters--but I sleep better because of emptying my bladder. I
> spoke with Dr. Te, who did the operation, about this, and he says it is
> not a prostate issue. Blood tests taken for my GP show slightly high
> glucose--which can cause frequent urination. So I am now on medication
> to improve that, and it should moderate the nocturia. I note that
> physical activity during the day is usually beneficial.
>
> You might seek to find out whether you have a problem with retention.
>

Repeating Rifle

2004-10-09, 2:08 am

in article qVF9d.113$wV4.73@trndny03, Jim W. at vze27rdh@verizon.net wrote
on 10/8/04 5:03 PM:

> I agree Richard. I do almost as much volume as you at night - I'm up to
> 300-350 ml for my nighttime pees which is a big improvement for me. I also
> produce urine very rapidly but if my bladder capacity continues to improve I
> am more than happy to live with fewer - if frequent bathroom trips. Jim W.

That seemsx to match my condition reasonably well.

My reason for asking is to get an idea about whether improvement can be
obtained from continued BPH treatment.

Bill

Spread deMocracy

2004-10-09, 7:08 am

Repeating Rifle: Both Uncle and Richard F. made great points. In addition
to checking if blood press meds are diuretics or if you have early symptoms
of high blood glucose, also double check for prostatitis. Might be an
undiagnosed infection, too? Best of luck.

"Repeating Rifle" <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:BD8CB4DC.25BB5%salmonegg@sbcglobal.net...
> in article qVF9d.113$wV4.73@trndny03, Jim W. at vze27rdh@verizon.net wrote
> on 10/8/04 5:03 PM:
>
>
> That seemsx to match my condition reasonably well.
>
> My reason for asking is to get an idea about whether improvement can be
> obtained from continued BPH treatment.
>
> Bill
>

Uncle

2004-10-12, 2:08 am

Jim W.

2004-10-12, 4:07 am