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'Secondary polycythemia/erythrocytosis' / asthma / COPD
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| ironjustice@aol.com 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
| Since theophylline is the FIRST LINE treatment for those with asthma ..
and since theophylline is used to DECREASE the NUMBER of red blood
cells .. in OTHER diseases .. the study below might prove INTERESTING
... to .. some.
It found asthma TO BE the 'underlying cause' .. and just .. coincidence
of course .. the increased red blood cell mass is FOUND in ALMOST ALL
... of .. the .. patients ..
Coincidence of course.
'Secondary' .. TO .. of .. course.
For sure ..
That would be pretty much the same as 'secondary' polycythemia /
increased blood cell mass which is found IN pulmonary hypertension ..
which has NOW been shown to be INDUCED .. by .. polycythemia IN the ..
mouse.
So .. is the polycythemia IN these patients ALSO .. not .. 'secondary'
... BUT .. post/pre/before .. asthma .. ?
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Secondary polycythemia was noted in 32 of 40 patients (80%)
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East Afr Med J. 2004 Apr;81(4):202-6. Related Articles, Links
Causes and clinical characteristics of chronic cor-pulmonale in
Ethiopia.
Aderaye G.
Chest Unit, Department of Internal Medicine, Addis Ababa University,
P.O. Box 2380, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
OBJECTIVE: To determine the clinical characteristics and underlying
causes of chronic cor-pulmonale in Ethiopian patients. DESIGN: A
hospital based cross-sectional study. SETTING: Tikur Anbessa Hospital,
a large referral hospital in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. SUBJECTS: Fourty
two consecutive patients referred to the chest clinic of Tikur Anbessa
Hospital, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. RESULTS: Bronchial asthma (36%),
chronic fibrocavitary tuberculosis (31%) and chronic
bronchitis/emphysema (33%) were the most frequent underlying causes and
occurred either singly or in combination in 36(86%) of patients.
Interstitial lung disease occurred in five (11.9%) patients.
Right-sided heart failure and cyanosis were the most common clinical
presentations. Secondary polycythemia was noted in 32 of 40 patients
(80%). The role of pulmonary vascular diseases including pulmonary
schistosomiasis as a cause of pulmonary heart disease could not be
ascertained but appeared to be insignificant. CONCLUSION: Chronic
persistent asthma is a frequent underlying cause of chronic obstructive
pulmonary disease and chronic cor-pulmonale compared to smoking related
chronic bronchitis/emphysema in Ethiopia. The preventive strategy of
chronic cor-pulmonale includes optimal treatment of bronchial asthma,
early diagnosis and effective treatment of tuberculosis and health
education to avoid cigarette smoking.
PMID: 15884287 [PubMed - in process]
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| Twittering One 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
| OMB.
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| 00doc 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
| ironjustice@aol.com wrote:
> Since theophylline is the FIRST LINE treatment for those with asthma
Get a clue.
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| Manky Badger 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
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<ironjustice@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Theophylline .. IS .. used .. in .. ASTHMA ..
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> Theophylline IS used to treat .. increased .. blood cell production ..
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> Asthma PRECEDES .. COPD ..
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> COPD .. presents .. WITH .. increased blood cell production ..
Imagine someone "presenting" at a garage with a broken car.
It might have a knackered gearbox, or it might have a broken carb.
Either way it "presents" the same.
> I .. GOT .. 'a clue' ..
No you haven't. Go back into hiding, Tommy.
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
> Jesus Was A Pussy! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
> Man Is A Herbivore!
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> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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| ironjustice@aol.com 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
| "Go back into hiding , Tommy"
Why .. should I do that .. ?
Are you hinting at something you little pussy fk .. ?
Are ya .. ?
Say it out loud ..
Comeon .. at least make an attempt to stand upright ..
Ya .. fkg .. pussy ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
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| ironjustice@aol.com 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
| >>
> Theophylline .. IS .. used .. in .. ASTHMA ..
> Theophylline IS used to treat .. increased .. blood cell production
..=2E
> Asthma PRECEDES .. COPD ..
> COPD .. presents .. WITH .. increased blood cell production ..
Imagine someone "presenting" at a garage with a broken car.
It might have a knackered gearbox, or it might have a broken carb.
Either way it "presents" the same. <<
If 'someone' .. has been selling me .. expensive water .. FOR .. my car
..=2E and telling me he "doesn't know WHY I was needing 'so much' .. water
..=2E and WHY the water would BE ' working' .." and then I find out later
I have a leak IN my gasket .. then I can pretty much be .. AT THE VERY
LEAST .. interested to KNOW .. the REASON .. the .. expensive WATER ..
is / was working IN .. my car BEFORE .. i .. KNEW .. i .. HAD .. a torn
gasket.
So NOW .. i .. KNOW .. next time I begin to see people putting
EXPENSIVE .. water .. INTO their .. cars .. I .. will now .. watch ..
to see if this proves to be .. so ..
Voifkgla ..
NOW .. eat me ..
It don't take no .. lab tech ..
Just takes .. brains ..
Heh .. heh ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
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> I .. GOT .. 'a clue' ..
No you haven't. Go back into hiding, Tommy.
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| Andrew Heenan 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
| "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com>
> Is a crossposting idiot.
> Stop crossposters by using this message as
> a reply to all groups *except your own*,
> then block the sender (killfile).
> It takes a few seconds to excommunicate
> the idiots, and the more people that do it,
> the sooner they'll learn.
> Keep The Internet Free - of Idiots
Andrew
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| ironjustice@aol.com 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
| Well unless you have a problem with math .. then there is no excuse
for your .. stupid .. comment ..
1998
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Salbutamol and theophylline syrups were the most common types of
medication
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S Afr Med J. 1998 Aug;88(8):986-94. Related Articles, Links
Underrecognition and undertreatment of asthma in Cape Town primary
school children.
Ehrlich RI, Jordaan E, du Toit D, Volmink JA, Weinberg E, Zwarenstein
M.
Department of Community Health, university of Cape Town.
BACKGROUND: In view of the high local prevalence of asthma, the extent
of recognition and appropriate management of childhood asthma was
studied in a large suburban area of Cape Town. DESIGN: Cross-sectional
study based on random community sample of schools. METHOD: 1,955
parents of sub B pupils from 16 schools completed a questionnaire,
followed by: (i) an interview of the parents of 348 symptomatic
children; and (ii) bronchial responsiveness testing on 254 children.
The final case group consisted of 242 children with reported asthma or
multiple asthma symptoms on both questionnaires. Children in whom
asthma was acknowledged were compared with those in whom it was not.
RESULTS: Overall, any past or current ('ever') asthma was acknowledged
by respondents in only 53% of the children, and current asthma in only
37.1%. While most children had received treatment in the previous 12
months, 66.1% of the recognised group were on current treatment (23.2%
on daily treatment), compared with 37% of the unrecognised group (3%
daily). Salbutamol and theophylline syrups were the most common types
of medication, while inhalers and anti-inflammatory medications were
underused. Only a minority of parents reported the child ever having
used a peak flow meter, or volunteered knowledge of preventive
measures. Current treatment, and to a lesser degree recognition of
asthma by parents, were more common among children on medical aid and
of higher socio-economic status. CONCLUSIONS: These findings suggest
that ways need to be found: (i) to increase the use of current asthma
treatment guidelines by practitioners; (ii) to provide access to
comprehensive care by children not on medical aid; and (iii) to improve
education of parents in home management measures such as severity
assessment and avoidance of smoking, allergen and dietary triggers.
PMID: 9754212 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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| Manky Badger 2005-05-18, 11:23 am |
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<ironjustice@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Go back into hiding , Tommy"
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> Why .. should I do that .. ?
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> Are you hinting at something you little pussy fk .. ?
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> Are ya .. ?
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> Say it out loud ..
When given the chance to call me a pussy to my face last summer you ran and
hid.
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| ARoberts 2005-05-18, 11:24 am |
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<ironjustice@aol.com> wrote in message
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Contrary to popular belief .. America is .. NOT .. the beallendall ..
Is .. it ..
Nope, but any place you aren't--is.
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| Manky Badger 2005-05-18, 11:24 am |
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<ironjustice@aol.com> wrote in message
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Beg to differ ..
You came nowhere .. near . Calgary ..
Did ya .. ?
Did ya .. ?
Didn't think so ..
Talk the big walk ..
I ain't hard to find .. and since I didn't actually .. see you .. that
means .. see above ..
You and I both know the truth, Tommy :o)
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