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archie@anet.net

2005-04-30, 11:51 am

At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can pay for whatever they
want said regardless of the cost to the american people. Isn't this all
really about "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being replaced by sales. Very
disturbing.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-04-30, 11:51 am

archie@anet.net wrote:
>
> At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can pay for whatever they
> want said regardless of the cost to the american people. Isn't this all
> really about "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being replaced by sales. Very
> disturbing.

Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to counter the
marketeers:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Jeff

2005-04-30, 5:52 pm

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> archie@anet.net wrote:
>
> Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to counter the
> marketeers:

Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been published about this
diet.

Jeff

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-04-30, 10:50 pm

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
>
> Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been published about this
> diet.

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/press.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Jeff

2005-05-01, 8:51 am

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
> Jeff wrote:
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.

And the Approach has not been described in the peer-reviewed literature.

Jeff

<garbage deleted>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 8:51 am

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.

We are back full circle:

Who knows an invention better... the user or the inventor?

Here's a hint to help you answer the question more easily:

http://tinyurl.com/8fwbe

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Thorsten Schier

2005-05-01, 8:51 am

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>
>
> We are back full circle:
>
> Who knows an invention better... the user or the inventor?

When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane. However, it is
still a car to other people.

> Here's a hint to help you answer the question more easily:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8fwbe

This story of yours with the 625,550 successfully following your diet
for 5 years is really funny.

Regards,

Thorsten

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 8:51 am

Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
>
> When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane. However, it is
> still a car to other people.

The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the users called
it a horseless carriage. Who picked the better name, the users or the
inventors?

"Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins** arguments."

>
> This story of yours with the 625,550 successfully following your diet
> for 5 years is really funny.

Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More than 625,500
people have learned this. Your inability to learn this does not bode
well for the genes that you and your ancestors have carried and yet, God
in His infinite mercy has spared your genes even though natural
selection would have wiped them out. Therefore, it follows that you are
living proof that there is no evolution:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

Again you have been vanquished by the truth as you always will be.
Nevertheless, you will remain in my prayers, dear Thorsten, whom I love,
in Lord Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Jeff

2005-05-01, 11:50 am

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4274C4B1.885C1887@heartmdphd.com...
> Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
> The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the users called
> it a horseless carriage. Who picked the better name, the users or the
> inventors?
>
> "Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins** arguments."
>

(...)
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More than 625,500
> people have learned this. Your inability to learn this does not bode
> well for the genes that you and your ancestors have carried

nice personal attack.

> and yet, God
> in His infinite mercy has spared your genes even though natural
> selection would have wiped them out.

Actually, it was natural selection that let his genes survive.

> Therefore, it follows that you are
> living proof that there is no evolution:

Another personal attack.

The evidence that evolution occurs is overwhelming.

http://www.nationalacademies.org/at...tion/index.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/

You have recently tried to disprove evolution, but failed, in this
newsgroup.

You can't overcome the truth.

Jeff

<garbage deleted>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 5:56 pm

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:4274C4B1.885C1887@heartmdphd.com...
>
> (...)
>
>
> nice personal attack.

It is understandable why you believe what I have written is a personal
attack on you since you share the same genes.

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Manky Badger

2005-05-01, 5:56 pm

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...

> You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord Christ's
> holy name.
>
> May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
> Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
> fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

OK if we're abandoning science in favour of religion, how about this one:

I'm a fat sod.
That's the way God made me.
Therefore that's the way God wants me.
Therefore if I partake in any kind of weight loss scheme/diet/call it what
you will is going against God's holy will
Therefore if I attempt to lose weight I will burn in hell fire.

Just a thought....

Jeff

2005-05-01, 5:56 pm

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...
(...)

>
> It is understandable why you believe what I have written is a personal
> attack on you since you share the same genes.

Another personal attack.

<garbage deleted>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...
> (...)
>
>
> Another personal attack.

How you feel remains understandable:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

Manky Badger wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...
>
>
> OK if we're abandoning science in favour of religion, how about this one:
>
> I'm a fat sod.
> That's the way God made me.

It truth that is **not** the way He made you:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:117agua6kh113c9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...
> (...)
>
>
> Another personal attack.
>
> <garbage deleted>
>

Have you noticed that Chung seems to be insulting people more lately? In a
thread last Sunday, he said that a woman who was questioning his 2PD was
"mentally ill". Nice behavior for a self-described Christian to engage in
on a Sunday, eh?

GG

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

GaryG wrote:
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:117agua6kh113c9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> Have you noticed that Chung seems to be insulting people more lately? In a
> thread last Sunday, he said that a woman who was questioning his 2PD was
> "mentally ill". Nice behavior for a self-described Christian to engage in
> on a Sunday, eh?

It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat that the truth has
handed you:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Jeff

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com...
(...)

> It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat that the truth has
> handed you:

LOL. Thanks for the laughs Chung.

You haven't defeated anything, not even the truth, no matter how much repeat
it.

Jeff

<garbage deletetd>

GaryG

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com...
> GaryG wrote:
625,500[vbcol=seagreen]
bode[vbcol=seagreen]
personal[vbcol=seagreen]
In a[vbcol=seagreen]
in[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat that the truth has
> handed you:

It seems you are still hearing voices proclaiming your sainthood.

And, it seems that you are still unable to apologize to Stacey for losing
your temper and inferring that she had mental illness. Thanks for posting
the link to remind us of how you treat others.

So it goes...

GG

>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA
>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

GaryG wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com...
> 625,500
> bode
> personal
> In a
> in
>
> It seems you are still hearing voices proclaiming your sainthood.

I do **not** believe in saints.

I do believe in the truth:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com...
> (...)
>
>
> LOL.

"Written laughter is silent despair."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42757685.7B11980A@heartmdphd.com...
> GaryG wrote:
not[vbcol=seagreen]
lately?[vbcol=seagreen]
was[vbcol=seagreen]
engage[vbcol=seagreen]
has[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I do **not** believe in saints.
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
> And, it seems that you are still unable to apologize to Stacey for losing
> your temper and inferring that she had mental illness. Thanks for posting
> the link to remind us of how you treat others.
>
> So it goes...
>
> GG
>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

"The untruthful often feel mistreated by the truth."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42757685.7B11980A@heartmdphd.com...
> not
> lately?
> was
> engage
> has
>

GaryG

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42757BE2.C1468E19@heartmdphd.com...
> "The untruthful often feel mistreated by the truth."

Your opinion <shrug>.

>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
>
> The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

Ditto.

> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A
>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-01, 10:55 pm

You seem unable to distinguish observation from opinion:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42757BE2.C1468E19@heartmdphd.com...
>
> Your opinion <shrug>.
>
>
> Ditto.
>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-03, 5:51 pm

Jeff

2005-05-03, 10:55 pm

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-03, 10:55 pm

Manky Badger

2005-05-04, 9:01 am

Jeff

2005-05-04, 9:01 am

Xref: newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com sci.med:182843 sci.med.cardiology:114715 sci.med.nutrition:166845 sci.med.pathology:11039

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...
(...)

>
> It is understandable why you believe what I have written is a personal
> attack on you since you share the same genes.

Another personal attack.

<garbage deleted>

Thorsten Schier

2005-05-04, 9:01 am

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
>
>
> The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the users called
> it a horseless carriage. Who picked the better name, the users or the
> inventors?

You miss an important point here. The inventors of the first car
invented something new and therefore had a chance to create a new name
for it as well.

All you did was to create just another diet. You may insist on calling
it anything else, but this won't change the fact that it remains a diet
according to conventional usage of language.

Btw., the idea to lose weight by reducing the amount of what one eats is
hardly new. In Germany it is colloquially known as "FdH" (Friß die
Hälfte = Eat only the half). The common opinion among nutritionists and
medical doctors is that this is no good unless you also change _what_
you eat.

The only thing that is new to your diet is the bizzare notion that the
right amount to eat is 2 lbs for just about everyone, regardless of
whether they are 5 feet inactive females or 7 feet active males,
regardless of whether they prefer sweets and french fries or vegetables
and fruits.

> "Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins** arguments."
>
>
>
>
> Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More than 625,500
> people have learned this.

Is this the number of clicks on your homepage or how else did you come
by this number? Yeah, sure, I know: "All **will** be revealed to those
who choose to spend eternity with Lord Jesus Christ."

> Your inability to learn this does not bode
> well for the genes that you and your ancestors have carried and yet, God
> in His infinite mercy has spared your genes even though natural
> selection would have wiped them out.

I guess it wil remain your secret why a quarrel with you over semantics
should have impaired the fitness of my ancestors.

> Therefore, it follows that you are
> living proof that there is no evolution:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

Once again you give evidence that you don't have a clue how evolution works.

[...]

Thorsten

--
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution"

(Theodosius Dobzhansky)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-04, 9:01 am

Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
>
> You miss an important point here.

No I have not.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3536240B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Bob (this one)

2005-05-04, 9:01 am

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
>
> No I have not.

Oh, sure you have. The point is that definitions adhere no matter what
wacky nomenclature you try to hang on a simple and simplistic diet.

It's that old "A rose is a rose is a rose..." thing. And it would smell
as sweet by any other name.

Like a diet is a diet even when you try to give it a high-falutin
"approach" title. Still a diet. Diets are about what you eat and how
much and lotsa other criteria. Just like the 2PD.

HTH

Pastorio

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-04, 9:01 am

"Bob (this one)" wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> Oh, sure you have.

Sorry, I have not.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3536240B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Jeff

2005-05-04, 9:01 am

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4278CE38.379EB541@heartmdphd.com...
> "Bob (this one)" wrote:
>
> Sorry, I have not.

Are you sure you are not in 1st grade?

You sure sound like it. "Am not." "Am too." "Am not...."

I did notice how you still delete parts of other people's messages without
indicating that fact.

Intellectual honesty is not your strongpoint.

Jeff

> At His service,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
>
> **
> Suggested Reading:
> (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
> (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3536240B
> (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
> (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
> (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-04, 11:53 am

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:4278CE38.379EB541@heartmdphd.com...
>
> Are you sure you are not in 1st grade?

Yes.

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Christ's holy
name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic for these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3536240B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-05, 5:58 pm

Jeff

2005-05-05, 5:58 pm

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-05, 5:58 pm

Thorsten Schier

2005-05-05, 5:58 pm

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-05, 5:58 pm

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-05, 10:56 pm

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-05, 10:56 pm

Jeff

2005-05-05, 10:56 pm

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-05, 10:56 pm

Thorsten Schier

2005-05-06, 9:18 am

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-06, 9:18 am

Bob (this one)

2005-05-06, 9:18 am

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-06, 9:18 am

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2005-05-06, 12:00 pm