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Probably why vitamin D helps MS
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| Rob Duncan 2005-09-26, 5:18 pm |
| Without posting dozens of studies... Vitamin D moderates IL-6 production,
among other inflamatory cytokines. Pubmed is full of studies on the
subject. If IL-6 is indeed the culprit in demyelination as studies
suggest... Vitamin D suplementation may be a *very* good thing.
Check out pubmed using vitamin D and IL-6 as search terms. I will never go
without suplementation...
Rob
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| Susan Esterby 2005-09-28, 9:33 am |
| Rob,
My neuro. is very pro-vitamin D supplementation. He also says it's
important to get some sunshine on bare, unwashed skin 5-10 minutes per
day. Something "special" happens between sunshine and skin oils that
allows vit-D to be better utilized. I don't really understand the
chemistry behind this but (when it's not too hot outside) it sure makes
me feel better.
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| Hi Susan;
>He also says it's
>important to get some sunshine on >bare, unwashed skin 5-10 minutes per
>day.
Ummm, you don't live somewhere with a *real* winter, do you?
Five minutes of bare skin in January in Chicago with the temps waaaaay
below zero and the wind screaming would get you: frostbite!
The "unwashed" part is very correct, and you have to leave the skin
unwashed for a few hours or the skin oils and sun thing won't work.
Exactly what it is, I can't explain either.
Me, I take supplements.
Sylvia
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| >Something "special" happens between >sunshine and skin oils that
A cholesterol type compound (another sterol) is activated by sunlight
and proceeds to the liver and then kidney to be finally converted to
vitamin D's active form. Don't sweat getting too much sunlight
secondary to this, the body has a homeostatic ability at shutting down
production via sunlight. CB
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Sylv wrote:
> Ummm, you don't live somewhere with a *real* winter, do you?
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> Five minutes of bare skin in January in Chicago with the temps waaaaay
> below zero and the wind screaming would get you: frostbite!
I live near Chicago and have managed to get sun all winter, I have a
sheltered south facing patio and sunny days find me under a down
comforter parked in my western sun gathering attitude. My glasses fog
up when I exhale, and it's pretty goofy looking, but it helps my
attitude, makes me laugh and makes me thrilled when I go back indoors.
It's nice, too, to get some fresh air. Even opening a south facing
window is kind of fun on a still day.
Funny how the term "good sense" isn't written in any of my
evaluations...
Lo, snow lizard
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| Susan Esterby 2005-09-28, 9:34 am |
| Sylvia,
You're right, I live in northern California and it rarely even snows a
couple of inches here. When it does - shoot - everybody takes a "snow
day" and heads for the hills to play where it's deeper. Not quite the
same definition of "snow day" as you true northerners have, I bet.
Neuro says I can sit in front of a south facing window in winter with
much the same effect, which is also good for my SAD. One of those full
spectrum lights also works. Plus I take supplements, too.
-Susan E.
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| Susan Esterby 2005-09-28, 9:34 am |
| Snow Lizard Lo,
Sounds brisk and bracing, and all bundled up toasty, at the same time!
I can't wait for it to get cold here. It's so hot all summer, I dream
about ice and snow sometimes. I miss being a snow bunny. It's good to
know there's another option.
Snow Lizards rule!
-Susan E.
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Susan Esterby wrote:
> Rob,
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> My neuro. is very pro-vitamin D supplementation. He also says it's
> important to get some sunshine on bare, unwashed skin 5-10 minutes per
> day.
Susan, my neuro said the same thing. thankfully, here in So-cali, i'm
able to get the early morning sunshine, which works as well as the late
afternoon sunshine, but doesn't turn my skin lobster-red or kick up
heat-related symptoms.
even before my M.S. diagnosis, for some reason, being out in the sun
just made me feel GOOD! we used to live much further north in the
county, and every weekend, i'd walk around Lake Miramar (6 miles). it
wasn't just the exercse that got my 'feelin' groovy' vibe going,
because when i'd first start the trek, and feel the sunlight on my face
and arms, it gave me the BIGGEST lift! :->
i love the sunshine, and wish we could get back to normal San diego
weather -- this HUMIDITY lately has been killing me. i'll take
semi-arid and Santa Anas over dripping wet humid heat any day of the
week!
rose
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| Susan Esterby 2005-09-30, 1:07 pm |
| Re: humidity
Dear Rose,
I know what you mean, Humidity with Heat is the worst. Wish I could
spend summers in Canada and avoid our Calif. summers all together!
Keep cool,
Susan
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Susan Esterby wrote:
> Re: humidity
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> Dear Rose,
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> I know what you mean, Humidity with Heat is the worst. Wish I could
> spend summers in Canada and avoid our Calif. summers all together!
oh Susan, i'm just SUCH a Californian! if i was a rich girl
(da-da-da-da-dah!), I'd have a "summer home" up in the Bay area, and a
"winter home" right here in San Diego's east county, semi-arid climate,
chaparral communities.
or heck, i'd have a "summer home" up on Mount Laguna! :->
people think California doesn't have "real" weather, but it most
definitely does, sometimes you've just got to go to it, instead of
waiting for it to come to you!
god, probably close to 20 years ago, a friend of ours went to Mt.
Laguna and brought back a load of snow in his truck, then built a
snowman on our front porch, which we found, half-melted in the morning
-- LOL! another time, the same buddy brought back another truckload of
snow, and we had a snowball fight -- Tam snuck up behind him and dumped
snow down his neck -- hee! the just LOVES the snow; i've told her it's
because she's a native Californian, if she had to shovel and drive on
it and bundle up for months at a time, she'd feel differently. which is
true, but i can't deny that snowmen and snowball fights are just TOO
much fun! :->
she never did the snow angel thing, but we've both made 'sand angels'
on the beach, so i guess that's ok. ;->
rose
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| buffalo bob 2005-09-30, 1:07 pm |
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rose wrote:
> Susan Esterby wrote:
>
> oh Susan, i'm just SUCH a Californian! if i was a rich girl
> (da-da-da-da-dah!), I'd have a "summer home" up in the Bay area, and a
> "winter home" right here in San Diego's east county, semi-arid climate,
> chaparral communities.
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> or heck, i'd have a "summer home" up on Mount Laguna! :->
>
> people think California doesn't have "real" weather, but it most
> definitely does, sometimes you've just got to go to it, instead of
> waiting for it to come to you!
>
> god, probably close to 20 years ago, a friend of ours went to Mt.
> Laguna and brought back a load of snow in his truck, then built a
> snowman on our front porch, which we found, half-melted in the morning
> -- LOL! another time, the same buddy brought back another truckload of
> snow, and we had a snowball fight -- Tam snuck up behind him and dumped
> snow down his neck -- hee! the just LOVES the snow; i've told her it's
> because she's a native Californian, if she had to shovel and drive on
> it and bundle up for months at a time, she'd feel differently. which is
> true, but i can't deny that snowmen and snowball fights are just TOO
> much fun! :->
>
> she never did the snow angel thing, but we've both made 'sand angels'
> on the beach, so i guess that's ok. ;->
>
> rose
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| I have lived in Wisconsin for all my life, and I don't need to go anywhere
else to experience extreme weather, except if I want to switch seasons.
This past summer we had over 25 days of 90+ degree weather, aridity (2
months with less than .25" of rain, and sunshine to rival Vegas. I hope we
have a typical Wisconsin winter, with lakes frozen over for 60+ days so the
ice fishermen have their fun. Pre-MS I had a ball skiing every winter,
playing in the snow with our kids, tobogganing down the runs, hiking through
15" of snow just for the exhilaration of it (especially under a full moon).
Even after I was DXed I liked to hike in the snow because then if I fell, I
at least landed softly!
The big difference since DX is that I can't tolerated the hot weather, so
I'm confined in our AC, either at home or our car.
>people think California doesn't have "real" weather, but it most
> definitely does, sometimes you've just got to go to it, instead of
> waiting for it to come to you!
>
> god, probably close to 20 years ago, a friend of ours went to Mt.
> Laguna and brought back a load of snow in his truck, then built a
> snowman on our front porch, which we found, half-melted in the morning
> -- LOL! another time, the same buddy brought back another truckload of
> snow, and we had a snowball fight -- Tam snuck up behind him and dumped
> snow down his neck -- hee! the just LOVES the snow; i've told her it's
> because she's a native Californian, if she had to shovel and drive on
> it and bundle up for months at a time, she'd feel differently. which is
> true, but i can't deny that snowmen and snowball fights are just TOO
> much fun! :->
>
> rose
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| buffalo bob 2005-09-30, 1:07 pm |
| Low E, Argonne filled glass
Does anyone know if you're able to receive vitamin D through insulated
glass? Low E, Argonne filled. The low E portion of the glass
eliminates ultraviolet light from penetrating and Argonne gas helps
insulate.
We live on a lake up north with numerous windows facing south. On
sunny days in the winter the sun reflects off the snow covered lake and
I need to wear sunglasses around the house if I don't pull the blinds.
So, does Low E, Argonne filled glass eliminate the possibility of
obtaining vitamin D throughout the winter?
Thanks, Bob
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| Rob Duncan 2005-09-30, 1:08 pm |
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"buffalo bob" <ibuffalo2002@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1128019487.003202.153780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Low E, Argonne filled glass
>
> Does anyone know if you're able to receive vitamin D through insulated
> glass? Low E, Argonne filled. The low E portion of the glass
> eliminates ultraviolet light from penetrating and Argonne gas helps
> insulate.
>
> We live on a lake up north with numerous windows facing south. On
> sunny days in the winter the sun reflects off the snow covered lake and
> I need to wear sunglasses around the house if I don't pull the blinds.
> So, does Low E, Argonne filled glass eliminate the possibility of
> obtaining vitamin D throughout the winter?
>
> Thanks, Bob
You cant recieve vitamin D through low-E windows. It blocks too much UV
radiation. Sometimes it can block all UVA/B. Sorry.
Rob
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| Susan Esterby 2005-09-30, 1:08 pm |
| Re: sand angels
Dear Rose,
Yeah, I'm a native. Both of my parents, too. I'd LOVE SF in the
summer, it's just too darn expensive! Most I've seen of SD was
island/beach areas.
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| Susan Esterby 2005-09-30, 1:08 pm |
| Think I lost my e-page there.
Re: Sand Angels
Rose,
Your mountain sounds great. Real weather, I love it. When it snows on
the mountains around here (Sonoma County) everybody heads up to play
'cause its pretty rare, and people "decorate" their vehicles and bring
it into town
I want Sonoma Co. for spring and fall, winter in Mexico, and summer in
Canada. Except it's supposed to be fall, but it was 95F here around 4
pm when I was out and about. YUCK
I've made snow angels but never sand angels, can't stand the grit.
Susan
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| Susan Esterby 2005-09-30, 1:08 pm |
| Kamel,
Your winter sounds great. I really miss skiing and ice skating. We
have the Snoopy Ice Rink nearby, but I don't have the energy anymore.
It's nice to just go sit inside and watch everyone (nice and cool in
summer). Otherwise, all summer it's AC for me!
Susan
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| Susan Esterby 2005-09-30, 1:08 pm |
| Rob/Bob,
Damn! This summer they replaced my three south facing windows with new
vinyl ones with triple panes and filtering. I guess I'll have to come
up with another way to get my sunshine this winter.
Susan
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