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OT: Australia Parliament Overturns 'Mate' Ban
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| GT Tick 2005-08-22, 10:53 pm |
| Dunno who came up with this ridiculous idea in the first place but it
makes about as much since as telling folks at the Republic of Texas
Capitol they can't use 'y'all'. Could cause another revolution and
secession.
Tick
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ASSOCIATED PRESS
CANBERRA, Australia (AP) - Officials at Australia's Parliament House on
Friday overturned a day-old ban on guards and attendants using the word
"mate" to address lawmakers and visitors after the new rule sparked
outrage among prime ministers past and present.
The U-turn came after Australian Prime Minister John Howard said it was
"absurd" to require security guards at the country's Parliament House to
stop addressing visitors and lawmakers as "mate".
One of his predecessors called the ban "rampant pomposity."
On Thursday, guards and attendants at the building in Canberra were told
to stop using the common Australian expression of endearment following a
complaint from a senior civil servant, media reported.
"These things are all a matter of context, and that's why it's
impractical and absurd to try and ban something," Howard, who in the
past has used the term to describe President Bush, told Australian
Broadcasting Corp. radio.
Hilary Penfold, secretary for the Department of Parliamentary Services,
said the ban was intended to ensure staff do not offend visitors.
By Friday afternoon, staff had been issued fresh written instructions to
"be aware when a degree of informality may be acceptable and when a more
formal approach is required."
Former prime minister Bob Hawke was enraged by the ban.
"It's pomposity gone mad," Hawke told ABC radio.
Hawke, a former union leader famous for his down to earth approach and
for holding a beer drinking record while studying at Oxford University,
said the term had been useful to him at official functions.
"It gets you out of all sorts of embarrassing situations," he said.
"It's got a nice neutrality about it. I mean, it doesn't imply any
intimacy, it shows a reasonable level of respect. I think it's one of
our great words."
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| g'day mate
they're talkin' out their arses eh?
next thing you know they'll have the guards and attendants tugging their
forelocks.
GT Tick wrote:
> Dunno who came up with this ridiculous idea in the first place but it
> makes about as much since as telling folks at the Republic of Texas
> Capitol they can't use 'y'all'. Could cause another revolution and
> secession.
>
> Tick
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> http://tinyurl.com/cgvgv
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> ASSOCIATED PRESS
> CANBERRA, Australia (AP) - Officials at Australia's Parliament House on
> Friday overturned a day-old ban on guards and attendants using the word
> "mate" to address lawmakers and visitors after the new rule sparked
> outrage among prime ministers past and present.
>
> The U-turn came after Australian Prime Minister John Howard said it was
> "absurd" to require security guards at the country's Parliament House to
> stop addressing visitors and lawmakers as "mate".
>
> One of his predecessors called the ban "rampant pomposity."
>
> On Thursday, guards and attendants at the building in Canberra were told
> to stop using the common Australian expression of endearment following a
> complaint from a senior civil servant, media reported.
> "These things are all a matter of context, and that's why it's
> impractical and absurd to try and ban something," Howard, who in the
> past has used the term to describe President Bush, told Australian
> Broadcasting Corp. radio.
>
> Hilary Penfold, secretary for the Department of Parliamentary Services,
> said the ban was intended to ensure staff do not offend visitors.
>
> By Friday afternoon, staff had been issued fresh written instructions to
> "be aware when a degree of informality may be acceptable and when a more
> formal approach is required."
>
> Former prime minister Bob Hawke was enraged by the ban.
>
> "It's pomposity gone mad," Hawke told ABC radio.
>
> Hawke, a former union leader famous for his down to earth approach and
> for holding a beer drinking record while studying at Oxford University,
> said the term had been useful to him at official functions.
>
> "It gets you out of all sorts of embarrassing situations," he said.
> "It's got a nice neutrality about it. I mean, it doesn't imply any
> intimacy, it shows a reasonable level of respect. I think it's one of
> our great words."
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| John Husvar 2005-08-23, 8:53 am |
| In article <430b030f$0$25524$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
jils <jils@spambegone.com> wrote:
> g'day mate
> they're talkin' out their arses eh?
> next thing you know they'll have the guards and attendants tugging their
> forelocks.
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>
Well, at the risk of appearing less cynical about politics and
politicians than I really am: The idea of respecting the office whatever
one may think of the officeholder is, to me, a step toward further
separating the rulers from the ruled -- and should be anathema in any
so-called free society. If the President, Prime Minister, King,
whatever, is an XXX, it'd be impolite to call him a rose bouquet,
wouldn't it?
Seems the "leaders" are treating their constituencies more and more like
antelope in a preserve: A certain amount of loss to predators, even
themselves, is to be expected. Hmmmmmm, maybe it's more like sheep in a
pasture: Get 'em ready, then fleece 'em. If they object, knock 'em in
the head and do it anyway.
Don't you poor commoner folks be getting uppity, Y'hear?
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| bobbyD 2005-08-24, 5:52 pm |
| canadian will be banned from saying EH!!! eh!
bobbyD
"jils" <jils@spambegone.com> wrote in message
news:430b030f$0$25524$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...[vbcol=seagreen]
> g'day mate
> they're talkin' out their arses eh?
> next thing you know they'll have the guards and attendants tugging their
> forelocks.
>
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> GT Tick wrote:
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| On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:11:33 GMT, "bobbyD" <phatbhatREMOVE@telus.net>
wrote:
>canadian will be banned from saying EH!!! eh!
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>bobbyD
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Huh?
Donn
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| bobbyD 2005-08-25, 8:54 am |
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"DCI" <never@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:11:33 GMT, "bobbyD" <phatbhatREMOVE@telus.net>
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> Huh?
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> Donn
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if they bannnn aussies from saying mate they will bann canucks fromsaying
EH!!! eh???
it was a joke,, not a believable statement of factuality,,, based upon a
preponderance of the non evidentuary ,evidience so ,,, i delcare a mister
trial!!!!
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that better???
bobbyD
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| On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:21:33 GMT, "bobbyD" <phatbhatREMOVE@telus.net>
wrote:
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>"DCI" <never@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:k4lpg193gftqcf2mvqlvovufrlhk4lel0p@4ax.com...
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>if they bannnn aussies from saying mate they will bann canucks fromsaying
>EH!!! eh???
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>it was a joke,, not a believable statement of factuality,,, based upon a
>preponderance of the non evidentuary ,evidience so ,,, i delcare a mister
>trial!!!!
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>?
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>that better???
>bobbyD
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Wha . . .?
Donn
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| Jim Carter 2005-08-25, 11:51 am |
| On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:21:33 GMT, "bobbyD"
<phatbhatREMOVE@telus.net> wrote in
alt.support.mult-sclerosis:
>if they bannnn aussies from saying mate they will bann canucks fromsaying
>EH!!! eh???
Or Americans from saying, "Y'know?"
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| On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:47:56 -0400, Jim Carter <spamfree@sentex.ca>
wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:21:33 GMT, "bobbyD"
><phatbhatREMOVE@telus.net> wrote in
>alt.support.mult-sclerosis:
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>Or Americans from saying, "Y'know?"
Or "like you know, like . . ."
Donn
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| GT Tick 2005-08-25, 5:55 pm |
| Now y'all are gettin' outa hand ain'tcha?
Iffin' you think it's funny to make fun of how people talk you should be
'shamed.
Tick
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Re: OT: Australia Parliament Overturns 'Mate' Ban
Group: alt.support.mult-sclerosis Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 8:06am
(CDT-2) From: never@comcast.net (DCI)
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:47:56 -0400, Jim Carter <spamfree@sentex.ca>
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:21:33 GMT, "bobbyD" <phatbhatREMOVE@telus.net>
wrote in
alt.support.mult-sclerosis:
if they bannnn aussies from saying mate they will bann canucks
fromsaying EH!!! eh???
Or Americans from saying, "Y'know?"
Or "like you know, like . . ."
Donn
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| Joan Carter 2005-08-25, 5:55 pm |
| On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:02:56 -0500, OLTICK@webtv.net (GT Tick) wrote in
alt.support.mult-sclerosis:
>Now y'all are gettin' outa hand ain'tcha?
>Iffin' you think it's funny to make fun of how people talk you should be
>'shamed.
Eh? Speak up, can't hear youse.
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| bobbyD 2005-08-25, 5:55 pm |
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"Jim Carter" <spamfree@sentex.ca> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:21:33 GMT, "bobbyD"
> <phatbhatREMOVE@telus.net> wrote in
> alt.support.mult-sclerosis:
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> Or Americans from saying, "Y'know?"
i think there are multiple american sayings,, one for the american south-
y'all,, one for boston!!! new york too,,, california,, laid back surfer
slangs,,,
bobbyD interesting topic
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> to catch copyright violators. ©¿©¬
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| Rob Duncan 2005-08-25, 5:55 pm |
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"bobbyD" <phatbhatREMOVE@telus.net> wrote in message
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> "Jim Carter" <spamfree@sentex.ca> wrote in message
> news:pamrg1hofo4bhd0gu6vv6qomm6rfu7em4t@4ax.com...
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> i think there are multiple american sayings,, one for the american south-
> y'all,, one for boston!!! new york too,,, california,, laid back surfer
> slangs,,,
>
> bobbyD interesting topic
Eh, is my favorite word. Eh?
Rob
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