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| ironjustice@aol.com 2005-11-23, 10:57 am |
| 7 Melatonin and 6-hydroxymelatonin protect against iron-induced
neurotoxicity.
Maharaj DS, Maharaj H, Daya S, Glass BD
J Neurochem. 2005 Nov 21;
Oxidative damage of biological macromolecules is a hallmark of most
neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer, Parkinson and diffuse
Lewy body diseases. Another important phenomenon involved in these
disorders is the alteration of iron homeostasis, with an increase in
iron levels. The present study investigated whether 6-hydroxymelatonin
(6-OHM) can reduce Fe(2+)-induced lipid peroxidation and necrotic cell
damage in the rat hippocampus in vivo. It was found that 6-OHM
administration proved successful in reducing Fe(2+)-induced
neurotoxicity in rat hippocampus. This study provides some evidence of
the neuroprotective effects of 6-OHM
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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| outsor@citynet.net 2005-11-23, 10:57 am |
| "Oxidative damage of biological macromolecules is a hallmark of most
neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer, Parkinson and diffuse Lewy
body diseases. Another important phenomenon involved in these disorders is
the alteration of iron homeostasis, with an increase in iron levels."
Just so, the disorders cause the usual control of iron to go out of
control
and levels rise,high iron didn't proceed the disorders, a dog and tail
story.
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| Hey, Doughnut!
>Are you actively working in the medical .. field .. ?
Are YOU??? Brahahahahahahaha!!!!
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| Michael 2005-11-24, 12:58 am |
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<ironjustice@aol.com> wrote in message
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> What part of cold nuts .. caught .. falsifying medical studies .. don't
> you understand .. ?
>
> Serious .. charge ..
>
> Speak to it .. you piece of sht ..
>
> Or .. stay the fk off my posts ..
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> YOU .. specifically .. altered medical studies ..
Say, Tom... you're not playing fair.
What exactly did he alter?
He merely commented on a verbatim quote from the abstract you posted.
> Explain that ..
>
> How does that .. fit .. in your mind .. ?
>
> Does that make you .. mentally .. ill .. ?
I have a feeling that all this stress is making *you* mentally ill, Tom.
Are you off your meds again?
> Are you actively working in the medical .. field .. ?
<snort!> You'll show him your "medical field" credentials in return, I
presume?
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| Genghis Khan's Wife 2005-11-24, 12:58 am |
| KEWL, then maybe you can explain how they can fix a man . Making a pill
that makes him hotter than AZ in the summer. But they cure not, breast
cancer, alzheimer or just just about anything having to due with women's
heatlh. Just wondering
"Sylv" <Sylv772003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hey, Doughnut!
>
>
> Are YOU??? Brahahahahahahaha!!!!
>
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| ironjustice@aol.com 2005-11-24, 12:58 am |
| >>
>Are you actively working in the medical .. field .. ?
Are YOU??? Brahahahahahahaha!!!! <<
I don't have to ..
I don't falsify medical studies ..
He altered medical studies ..
He potentially .. is attempting .. to .. KILL .. people ..
He has been caught .. twice .. spouting KNOWN .. lies ..
I 'm pretty sure YOU.. don't .. find it .. offensive .. but you and he
are pretty much cut from the same bolt .. so .. why WOULD you find it
... offensive ..
Hell .. you've probably .. done it ..
You probably aren't even vegetarian .. just too .. 'picture perfect' ..
when it comes to your attempts at attacking me .. and the WAYS you have
used ..
Like greaseball .. 'makes up' .. medical studies and YOU .. 'just so
happen' .. to BE .. 'vegetarian' ..
Eh ..
Scuse me if I don't .. believe .. ya ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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| >You probably aren't even vegetarian .. just too .. 'picture perfect' ..
>when it comes to your attempts at attacking me .. and the WAYS you have
>used ..
Listen, jerk, I have been a vegetarian for over 30 years. How long
have YOU been one?
And, just for your information, being a vegetarian does NOT make a
person sweet and gentle. Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian.
I attack you and your bogus theories with reason and logic, not the
obscene gutter language you have such a liking for.
So stuff it.
Sylvia
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| Michael 2005-11-24, 12:58 am |
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"Sylv" <Sylv772003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> So stuff it.
>
> Sylvia
F*ckin' *A*, Tom.
What she *said*!
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| ironjustice@aol.com 2005-11-24, 10:58 am |
| >>I attack you and your bogus theories with reason and logic, not the
obscene gutter language you have such a liking for.<<
Who you trying to .. fool .. ?
Me .. ?
Yourself .. ?
I place a medical study .. and you .. attack it ..
Fk .. off ..
You are too stupid to even bother with ..
But .. comes with the .. territory you fkd up pce of sht ..
So ..
You ":don't like gutter talk" .. then once again .. read my lips ..
Stay.. The .. FK .. AWAY FRM ME ..
Dig .. ?
Unnerstand ..?
Comfkgprendez .. ?
PS: Hitler .. was as much a vegetarian .. as you .. are ..
The following article was written by Roberta
Kalechofsky, and appeared in the November
1996 issue of "The Animals' Agenda."
* * * * *
In their efforts to discredit animal rights
activists, supporters of animal research
periodically proclaim to the media that
Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian and that
the Nazis did not engage in animal
research.
The implication is that these 'revelations'
suggest a sinister similarity between Nazis
and animal rights 'zealots' and serve as a
warning that animal advocates have an
anti-human agenda.
But the real story about Hitler and the
Nazis is miles from the myth.
One legitimate response to such claims
is that it doesn't matter whether Hitler was
a vegetarian; as Peter Singer said, "The
fact that Hitler had a nose doesn't mean
we're going to cut our noses off."
Biographical material about Hitler suggests
a contradictoriness in reports about his diet.
He is often described as a vegetarian who
nevertheless had a special fondness for
sausages and caviar, and sometimes ham.
One of his biographers, Robert Payne ("The
Life and Death of Adolf Hitler) took exception
to the view of Hitler as an ascetic, and said
it was deliberately fostered by the Nazis to
project an image of Hitler as pure and
dedicated.
Wrote Payne: "Hitler's asceticism played an
important part in the image he projected
over Germany. According to the widely
believed legend, he neither smoked nor
drank, nor did he have anything to do with
women.
"Only the first was true. He drank beer and
diluted wine frequently, had a special fondness
for Bavarian sausages, and kept a mistress...
"His asceticism was a fiction invented by
(Nazi propagandist Joseph) Goebbels to
emphasize his total dedication, his self-control,
the distance that separated him from other men..."
Biographer John Toland ("Adolf Hitler"), describes
Hitler's early student diet as consisting of "milk,
sausage, and bread."
Moreover, Hitler never promoted vegetarianism
as a public policy for either health or moral
reasons. His lack of policies and public
support for vegetarianism is significant in a
leader who rigorously enforced other health
policies, such as anti-smoking and anti-pollution
legislation, and pregnancy and birthing
measures for women.
The rumor that the Nazis passed an anti-
vivisection law is also filled with contradictions.
No such law was passed, although the Nazis
reported that such a law existed. The Nazis
allegedly passed an anti-vivisection bill in
1933.
"Lancet," the prestigious British medical
journal, reviewed the Nazis' law in 1934 and
warned anti-vivisectionists not to celebrate
because the Nazis' law was no different, in
effect, from the British law that had been
passed in 1876, which restricted some
animal research, but hardly eliminated it.
An enormous amount of research on
animals continued to be carried out by
Nazi doctors.
The evidence of Nazi experiments on
animals is overwhelming. In "The Dark
Face of Science," author John Vyvyan
summed it up correctly:
"The experiments made on prisoners were
many and diverse, but they had one thing in
common: all were in continuation of or
complementary to, experiments on animals.
"In every instance, this antecedent scientific
literature is mentioned in the evidence, and
at Buchenvald and Auschwitz concentration
camps, human and animal experiments
were carried out simultaneously as parts of
a single programme."
It is important that the facts be known so
that the myths about Hitler and the Nazis
cannot be used against the animal rights
and vegetarian movements.
Animal rights advocates should not let
these false claims appear in the media
unchallenged. The record must be set
straight.
* * * * *
Roberta Kalechofsky is a writer, publisher,
and the president of Jews for Animal Rights.
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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| >You ":don't like gutter talk" .. then once again .. read my lips ..
>Stay.. The .. FK .. AWAY FRM ME ..
>Dig .. ?
>Unnerstand ..?
>Comfkgprendez .. ?
>PS: Hitler .. was as much a vegetarian .. as you .. are ..
Once again, showing your true colors. Did it ever occur to you that
real medical researchers don't get on Usenet groups and use such
half-literate, obscene language?
But at least you have posted something interesting about Hitler. Never
read this article before. I did know that some do not believe he was a
true vegetarian.
I certainly don't have to defend my own vegetarian diet to the likes of
you, though. I have nothing to prove to losers such as yourself. If
you are calling me a liar, it doesn't bother me.
Just like the rabid dog behind the fence barking does not stop me.
Sylvia
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| Gwen Love 2005-11-24, 5:56 pm |
| This has nothing to do with Alzheimers. Please leave our newsgroup out of
this. Thanks.
Gwen
"Sylv" <Sylv772003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Listen, jerk, I have been a vegetarian for over 30 years. How long
> have YOU been one?
>
> And, just for your information, being a vegetarian does NOT make a
> person sweet and gentle. Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian.
>
> I attack you and your bogus theories with reason and logic, not the
> obscene gutter language you have such a liking for.
>
> So stuff it.
>
> Sylvia
>
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| ironjustice@aol.com 2005-11-25, 1:05 am |
| >>This has nothing to do with Alzheimers. Please leave our newsgroup out of
this. Thanks.
Gwen
<<
Actually .. if you notice in the study .. Alzheimers' .. IS ..
specifically .. mentioned ..
Now I don't know how you came about the .. conclusion .. this has
nothing to do WITH .. alzheimers .. but I will in this case assume it
is a .. patient who is asking .. and NOT a .. caregiver ..
So .. I'll talk to you like I would a .. alzheimers .. patient ..
Oxidation .. bad ..
Increased oxidation .. very bad ..
Have a cookie ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
<<snip>>
Oxidative damage of biological macromolecules is a hallmark of most
neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer, Parkinson and diffuse
Lewy body diseases.
<<snip>>
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| Tom;
>So .. I'll talk to you like I would a .. >alzheimers .. patient ..
>Oxidation .. bad ..
>Increased oxidation .. very bad ..
>Have a cookie ..
You never cease to amaze me.
Did anyone ever tell you that you are a mean, insensitive waste of
carbon and water?
I can't believe what you have just written.
You are one sorry excuse for a human being.
Sylvia
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| granola 2005-11-28, 10:58 am |
| FYI- man has never cured a disease in written history. we have
erradicated, quarantined, vaccinated but never cured. so they can turn
a man on with a pill, but to cure a disease is new ground. i'm hoping
it happens soon. for everybody's sake.
jo
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| outsor@citynet.net 2005-11-28, 12:55 pm |
| "FYI- man has never cured a disease in written history. we have
erradicated, quarantined, vaccinated but never cured. so they can turn a
man on with a pill, but to cure a disease is new ground. i'm hoping it
happens soon. for everybody's sake."
What would a "cure" look like if one should occur?
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| Rob Duncan 2005-11-28, 12:55 pm |
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"granola" <zeet2000@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> FYI- man has never cured a disease in written history. we have
> erradicated, quarantined, vaccinated but never cured. so they can turn
> a man on with a pill, but to cure a disease is new ground. i'm hoping
> it happens soon. for everybody's sake.
>
> jo
Weve cured 100's of diseases. What are you talking about?
Rob
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| Evelyn Ruut 2005-11-28, 5:57 pm |
| "Rob Duncan" <robtakethisoutduncan@gobigwest.com> wrote in message
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> "granola" <zeet2000@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Weve cured 100's of diseases. What are you talking about?
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> Rob
I was thinking the same thing.
Perhaps the person just has an odd way of expressing themself.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
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| Karen 2005-11-29, 12:59 am |
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"Evelyn Ruut" <mama-lionsox@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I was thinking the same thing.
> Perhaps the person just has an odd way of expressing themself.
>
> --
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Evelyn
>
> (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
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Evelyn, you're sooo tactful. :-)
Karen
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| Evelyn Ruut 2005-11-29, 12:59 am |
| "Karen" <kk5151@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Evelyn Ruut" <mama-lionsox@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Evelyn, you're sooo tactful. :-)
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> Karen
hee hee!
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
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| Anthony Shipley 2005-11-29, 10:57 am |
| "Rob Duncan" <robtakethisoutduncan@gobigwest.com> [WA] wrote:
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>"granola" <zeet2000@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>Weve cured 100's of diseases. What are you talking about?
It might resolve the question more easily if you cite a disease we've cured.
Granola's point might be that "curing" applies to an individual. In that case,
"eradicated" might be better in this context (as far as I know there's only one
disease that has been --all but-- eradicated but can't remember which.
As for granola's comments, is he suggesting that a disease _has_ been cured
prior to written history?
Might there be an argument that, some long time ago, we, man, has cured a
disease but, subsequently, the cure no longer worked -- might be the first
incidence of an anti-biotic?
anthony shipley
Run away with me; I can make you unhappy.
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| Evelyn Ruut 2005-11-29, 10:58 am |
| "Anthony Shipley" <astech@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> "Rob Duncan" <robtakethisoutduncan@gobigwest.com> [WA] wrote:
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> It might resolve the question more easily if you cite a disease we've
> cured.
>
> Granola's point might be that "curing" applies to an individual. In that
> case,
> "eradicated" might be better in this context (as far as I know there's
> only one
> disease that has been --all but-- eradicated but can't remember which.
>
> As for granola's comments, is he suggesting that a disease _has_ been
> cured
> prior to written history?
>
> Might there be an argument that, some long time ago, we, man, has cured a
> disease but, subsequently, the cure no longer worked -- might be the first
> incidence of an anti-biotic?
>
>
>
> anthony shipley
Leprosy, Tuberculosis come to mind first thing. These were once
devastating diseases that were a death sentence years ago.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
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| Evelyn Ruut 2005-11-29, 10:58 am |
| "Evelyn Ruut" <mama-lionsox@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Anthony Shipley" <astech@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Leprosy, Tuberculosis come to mind first thing. These were once
> devastating diseases that were a death sentence years ago.
I just also considered the great Cholera and Diptheria and Smallpox
epidemics of the past.... and thank goodness for water purification which
prevents so many of these horrible scourges of the past.
We are fortunate to live in times when many of these diseases are no longer
realities to us.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
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| Rob Duncan 2005-11-29, 10:58 am |
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"Anthony Shipley" <astech@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> "Rob Duncan" <robtakethisoutduncan@gobigwest.com> [WA] wrote:
>
>
>
> It might resolve the question more easily if you cite a disease we've
> cured.
>
> Granola's point might be that "curing" applies to an individual. In that
> case,
> "eradicated" might be better in this context (as far as I know there's
> only one
> disease that has been --all but-- eradicated but can't remember which.
>
> As for granola's comments, is he suggesting that a disease _has_ been
> cured
> prior to written history?
>
> Might there be an argument that, some long time ago, we, man, has cured a
> disease but, subsequently, the cure no longer worked -- might be the first
> incidence of an anti-biotic?
>
>
>
> anthony shipley
I cant say I understand your point. Theres no need for me to list the
hundreds of disease and conditions which we now have cures for. I think
what would be more fruitfull would be for the claiment to properly define
*his* usage of the word cure. Cause as it stands, it sounds to be an
assinine statement.
Rob
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| Evelyn Ruut 2005-11-29, 10:58 am |
| "Rob Duncan" <robtakethisoutduncan@gobigwest.com> wrote in message
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> "Anthony Shipley" <astech@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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[vbcol=seagreen]
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> I cant say I understand your point. Theres no need for me to list the
> hundreds of disease and conditions which we now have cures for. I think
> what would be more fruitfull would be for the claiment to properly define
> *his* usage of the word cure. Cause as it stands, it sounds to be an
> assinine statement.
>
>
> Rob
I think probably that almost all of us are in agreement with that.
"Granola" is all wet.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
>
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| smallpox infections are found nowhere in the world now. It was declared
officially to be eradicated in 1979. The Variola virus, which causes it, is
only known to exist in laboratories and may exist in biological warfare
sites, which is why we might still have cause to fear it.
"Evelyn Ruut" <mama-lionsox@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Anthony Shipley" <astech@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:ebuno1l64gqsurqv0m86dilpmiovsgpgo9@4ax.com...
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>
>
> Leprosy, Tuberculosis come to mind first thing. These were once
> devastating diseases that were a death sentence years ago.
>
>
> --
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Evelyn
>
> (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
>
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