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| ok, saw my gyn yesterday. got the endometrial biopsy, done in the doc's
office, no anesthesia, per Medicare's rules. OWWWWWWWW. this is the
old-school endo biopsy, with the instrument that looks like a wire
bottle brush, or a wire vegetable scrubber, not the more modern
'mascara wand' instrument. so i say again, OWWW. but, it's over with!
the doc didn't eyeball anything weird, so both our expectations is that
the tests will come back normal. if not, we'll take it from there, but
for now, i'm not stressing. his conclusion, barring abnormal results
from the further tests we did yesterday, is that I AM going into early,
but otherwise "normal" menopause. my gyn has learned a lot about M.S.,
i was telling Dory earlier i wish he could be my doc for EVERYTHING,
but he can't, so oh well. my neuro, i've got to bring a list of
prescription, OTC, and supplements with me each visit, or he forgets
even the stuff HE prescribed himself. my neuro remembers everything --
he asked how long it had been since i took Interferons, asked a lot of
questions. after me, he got a second patient with M.S., and he told me
he figured that since it affects a large number of women of
child-bearing age, chances were good he might get yet another OB/Gyn
patient who also had M.S., so he learned as much as he could about it.
he said the CNS impacts other systems, including endocrine, and that
it's possible that M.S. is sending me into early menopause. i was
confused, because i had't had any hot flashes, night sweats, or sudden
mood swings. the gyn said that wasn't at all unusual, that at least
half of women enter menopause without those symptoms, their periods
just stop. he said everybody seems to think ALL women get those
symptoms, but the real deal is just that we hear about the potential
problems, not all the cases where nothing uncomfortable happens. he
said it was his understanding that some women with M.S. experience
relapses when they enter menopause, but he has no idea about what, if
any, impact it might have on me, being SP and no longer having
relapses, and suggested i ask the neuro about that. i dont' think the
neuro is going to have any idea, but i'll ask him just in case he does.
in any event, i'm not noticing any sudden downward spiral, just the
same old stuff for the most part, so...yay! :->
thyroid and pituitary hormones are ok, my B-12 and potassium are ok, my
BP was HIGH again, not as high as last time, but WAY higher than usual
for me -- 140/100 this time. they checked again before i left the
office, and it was down to 120/100 -- top number "ok" bottom number too
high. in between the gyn's BP tests, i tested again -- 110/72. i'm
pretty sure THIS time, i was nervous about the BP reading ITSELF! but
still, he's bothered by the bottom number being so high, when it's
never, EVER been over 70 -- my normal BP was 105/65 well into my 30s,
it's been 110/70 for about a decade. does anyone know if menopause
itself can cause or contribute to high blood pressure?
the gyn had talked to me before about HBP, and said that because of my
lifestyle, the "lifestyle changes" docs recommend would not work -- he
said if i gave up caffeine, it *might* drop by a few points, but that
was it. i don't use salt, don't cook with it; gave up drinking coming
up on 2 years ago now; and have to struggle to keep my weight UP,
instead of down. we talked some more about it yesterday, and he said
all the same stuff. he said if it continued to read high, the GP
wouldn't be able to advise many "lifestyle changes,' so it would prob
be straight to medication. :{ it just seems *odd* to me that my BP
would remain stable at the low end of normal my entire life, even when
I WAS drinking heavily, taking medications, or weighed more, and then
suddenly shoot up for no apparent reason -- no meds added or removed,
no new supplements, no added stress, it looks like no malignancy or
other gyn problems. i just really, really hate the idea of taking more
pills, and from what i've heard, BP meds are EXPEN$IVE. so -- we'll
see!
if anyone knows, does BP rise during early menopause? does it
straighten itself out after you get further along in the menopausal
....err, "journey" (hee!), or is it something that you're stuck with? or
is it unrelated altogether, and for some unknown reason my BP has just
gotten high out of the blue?
anyway, i'll have the latest results some time next week, and i'm
really NOT worrying about it. the doc doesn't think they'll come back
abnormal, we're just making sure to cover the bases, for my peace of
mind and his malpractice rates, most likely. ;->
i'll be ordering groceries online, after Dennis wakes up. Tam's
boyfriend is going to do Thanksgiving with us, and i'm TOTALLY looking
forward to it! :-> one thing i might never have found out if not for
M.S., since before then i was always working and always busy -- not
only am i a good cook, I really LIKE cooking! :->
i get so jazzed over the silliest things. i'm not complaining -- it's
fun. :->
XO,
RD
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| Hi Rose;
Glad to hear the gyn visit wasn't TOO bad, aside from the nasty biopsy
with no anethesia.
Your doctor's answers gave me some insight into what's coming up for
me, too; it IS possible to go into menopause without all those lousy
symptoms.
Thoughts on your BP; maybe that's just one of the things MS screws up.
Mine has been running very low for the past 10 years for no reason at
all. Maybe yours will just come down, but it's good that the doc is
keeping an eye on things. High BP and strokes run in my family, so
that's something I've always watched.
Sylvia
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I wonder if good old-fashioned herbs keep you relaxed?
My BP is low, too. We're just sedentary, loaded and sedentary!
Woohoo!
Lo
rose wrote:
> ok, saw my gyn yesterday. got the endometrial biopsy, done in the doc's
> office, no anesthesia, per Medicare's rules. OWWWWWWWW. this is the
> old-school endo biopsy, with the instrument that looks like a wire
> bottle brush, or a wire vegetable scrubber, not the more modern
> 'mascara wand' instrument. so i say again, OWWW. but, it's over with!
>
> the doc didn't eyeball anything weird, so both our expectations is that
> the tests will come back normal. if not, we'll take it from there, but
> for now, i'm not stressing. his conclusion, barring abnormal results
> from the further tests we did yesterday, is that I AM going into early,
> but otherwise "normal" menopause. my gyn has learned a lot about M.S.,
> i was telling Dory earlier i wish he could be my doc for EVERYTHING,
> but he can't, so oh well. my neuro, i've got to bring a list of
> prescription, OTC, and supplements with me each visit, or he forgets
> even the stuff HE prescribed himself. my neuro remembers everything --
> he asked how long it had been since i took Interferons, asked a lot of
> questions. after me, he got a second patient with M.S., and he told me
> he figured that since it affects a large number of women of
> child-bearing age, chances were good he might get yet another OB/Gyn
> patient who also had M.S., so he learned as much as he could about it.
>
> he said the CNS impacts other systems, including endocrine, and that
> it's possible that M.S. is sending me into early menopause. i was
> confused, because i had't had any hot flashes, night sweats, or sudden
> mood swings. the gyn said that wasn't at all unusual, that at least
> half of women enter menopause without those symptoms, their periods
> just stop. he said everybody seems to think ALL women get those
> symptoms, but the real deal is just that we hear about the potential
> problems, not all the cases where nothing uncomfortable happens. he
> said it was his understanding that some women with M.S. experience
> relapses when they enter menopause, but he has no idea about what, if
> any, impact it might have on me, being SP and no longer having
> relapses, and suggested i ask the neuro about that. i dont' think the
> neuro is going to have any idea, but i'll ask him just in case he does.
> in any event, i'm not noticing any sudden downward spiral, just the
> same old stuff for the most part, so...yay! :->
>
> thyroid and pituitary hormones are ok, my B-12 and potassium are ok, my
> BP was HIGH again, not as high as last time, but WAY higher than usual
> for me -- 140/100 this time. they checked again before i left the
> office, and it was down to 120/100 -- top number "ok" bottom number too
> high. in between the gyn's BP tests, i tested again -- 110/72. i'm
> pretty sure THIS time, i was nervous about the BP reading ITSELF! but
> still, he's bothered by the bottom number being so high, when it's
> never, EVER been over 70 -- my normal BP was 105/65 well into my 30s,
> it's been 110/70 for about a decade. does anyone know if menopause
> itself can cause or contribute to high blood pressure?
>
> the gyn had talked to me before about HBP, and said that because of my
> lifestyle, the "lifestyle changes" docs recommend would not work -- he
> said if i gave up caffeine, it *might* drop by a few points, but that
> was it. i don't use salt, don't cook with it; gave up drinking coming
> up on 2 years ago now; and have to struggle to keep my weight UP,
> instead of down. we talked some more about it yesterday, and he said
> all the same stuff. he said if it continued to read high, the GP
> wouldn't be able to advise many "lifestyle changes,' so it would prob
> be straight to medication. :{ it just seems *odd* to me that my BP
> would remain stable at the low end of normal my entire life, even when
> I WAS drinking heavily, taking medications, or weighed more, and then
> suddenly shoot up for no apparent reason -- no meds added or removed,
> no new supplements, no added stress, it looks like no malignancy or
> other gyn problems. i just really, really hate the idea of taking more
> pills, and from what i've heard, BP meds are EXPEN$IVE. so -- we'll
> see!
>
> if anyone knows, does BP rise during early menopause? does it
> straighten itself out after you get further along in the menopausal
> ...err, "journey" (hee!), or is it something that you're stuck with? or
> is it unrelated altogether, and for some unknown reason my BP has just
> gotten high out of the blue?
>
> anyway, i'll have the latest results some time next week, and i'm
> really NOT worrying about it. the doc doesn't think they'll come back
> abnormal, we're just making sure to cover the bases, for my peace of
> mind and his malpractice rates, most likely. ;->
>
> i'll be ordering groceries online, after Dennis wakes up. Tam's
> boyfriend is going to do Thanksgiving with us, and i'm TOTALLY looking
> forward to it! :-> one thing i might never have found out if not for
> M.S., since before then i was always working and always busy -- not
> only am i a good cook, I really LIKE cooking! :->
>
> i get so jazzed over the silliest things. i'm not complaining -- it's
> fun. :->
>
> XO,
> RD
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| Peace Dove 2005-11-15, 5:57 pm |
| OK !
Its OVER !
I was so afraid for you to do this without pain meds -- Oy - I am so
glad its OVER !
Since your dr does not seem worried about the pathology reports -- I
will not worry too :-)
As to your BP -- mine was always low too until menopause except when I
had lots of pain or stress --- than it went nuts for awhile -- now it is
back to being stable -- but has never gone back to its original low --
I think your Dr should wait a few months to think about BP meds ---
I think with all your body has and is going through it does not sound
strange to me that you would go into early menopause --- do not believe
all the horror stories -- they are told because they are NOT the norm
---
I got used to not having periods real quick -
You will too -- just one less thing to complicate our lives ---
Thanks dear Rose for the update -- Dove
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"rose" <rosedawn_scott@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132068728.436331.72740@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> the doc didn't eyeball anything weird, so both our expectations is that
> the tests will come back normal.
I'm so happy for you Rose. Sorry you had to go through that horrible test.
>and from what i've heard, BP meds are EXPEN$IVE. so -- we'll
> see!
I think it depends on what med you get. My mother (has no prescription
coverage) and pays $30 for a 3 month supply. My hubby (we also have no
prescription coverage) and pay $70/month for his. He had alot of sx from
them and went through 5 or 6 different ones before finding one that had no
sx, So if you do go on hbp pills and gets lots of sx, keep trying til you
get one that works for you.
TC Rose,
jodi
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| Jan Gillett 2005-11-25, 5:56 pm |
| hi Rose,
with regard to menopause- I went to my obgyn at 45 and said that I might be
having hot flashes. he did a blood test for follicle stimulating hormone
and told me the result was sky high and that I'd been menopausal for some
time. monthly bleeding hadn't stopped and it continued for another 4
years! with regard to blood pressure, mine had been very low when I was
younger, too but it has been getting higher and higher. the bottom number
was consistently around 100. went to emergency with a reading of 185/119.
anyway, am taking meds now and it seems to be helping. never thought that
it might be related to menopause- wonder if it is. I had thought it might
be MS related- I tend to blame everything on MS, though.
every itch, twitch, memory glitch, stasis and sadness- MS is to blame.
jan g
"rose" <rosedawn_scott@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132068728.436331.72740@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> ok, saw my gyn yesterday. got the endometrial biopsy, done in the doc's
> office, no anesthesia, per Medicare's rules. OWWWWWWWW. this is the
> old-school endo biopsy, with the instrument that looks like a wire
> bottle brush, or a wire vegetable scrubber, not the more modern
> 'mascara wand' instrument. so i say again, OWWW. but, it's over with!
>
> the doc didn't eyeball anything weird, so both our expectations is that
> the tests will come back normal. if not, we'll take it from there, but
> for now, i'm not stressing. his conclusion, barring abnormal results
> from the further tests we did yesterday, is that I AM going into early,
> but otherwise "normal" menopause. my gyn has learned a lot about M.S.,
> i was telling Dory earlier i wish he could be my doc for EVERYTHING,
> but he can't, so oh well. my neuro, i've got to bring a list of
> prescription, OTC, and supplements with me each visit, or he forgets
> even the stuff HE prescribed himself. my neuro remembers everything --
> he asked how long it had been since i took Interferons, asked a lot of
> questions. after me, he got a second patient with M.S., and he told me
> he figured that since it affects a large number of women of
> child-bearing age, chances were good he might get yet another OB/Gyn
> patient who also had M.S., so he learned as much as he could about it.
>
> he said the CNS impacts other systems, including endocrine, and that
> it's possible that M.S. is sending me into early menopause. i was
> confused, because i had't had any hot flashes, night sweats, or sudden
> mood swings. the gyn said that wasn't at all unusual, that at least
> half of women enter menopause without those symptoms, their periods
> just stop. he said everybody seems to think ALL women get those
> symptoms, but the real deal is just that we hear about the potential
> problems, not all the cases where nothing uncomfortable happens. he
> said it was his understanding that some women with M.S. experience
> relapses when they enter menopause, but he has no idea about what, if
> any, impact it might have on me, being SP and no longer having
> relapses, and suggested i ask the neuro about that. i dont' think the
> neuro is going to have any idea, but i'll ask him just in case he does.
> in any event, i'm not noticing any sudden downward spiral, just the
> same old stuff for the most part, so...yay! :->
>
> thyroid and pituitary hormones are ok, my B-12 and potassium are ok, my
> BP was HIGH again, not as high as last time, but WAY higher than usual
> for me -- 140/100 this time. they checked again before i left the
> office, and it was down to 120/100 -- top number "ok" bottom number too
> high. in between the gyn's BP tests, i tested again -- 110/72. i'm
> pretty sure THIS time, i was nervous about the BP reading ITSELF! but
> still, he's bothered by the bottom number being so high, when it's
> never, EVER been over 70 -- my normal BP was 105/65 well into my 30s,
> it's been 110/70 for about a decade. does anyone know if menopause
> itself can cause or contribute to high blood pressure?
>
> the gyn had talked to me before about HBP, and said that because of my
> lifestyle, the "lifestyle changes" docs recommend would not work -- he
> said if i gave up caffeine, it *might* drop by a few points, but that
> was it. i don't use salt, don't cook with it; gave up drinking coming
> up on 2 years ago now; and have to struggle to keep my weight UP,
> instead of down. we talked some more about it yesterday, and he said
> all the same stuff. he said if it continued to read high, the GP
> wouldn't be able to advise many "lifestyle changes,' so it would prob
> be straight to medication. :{ it just seems *odd* to me that my BP
> would remain stable at the low end of normal my entire life, even when
> I WAS drinking heavily, taking medications, or weighed more, and then
> suddenly shoot up for no apparent reason -- no meds added or removed,
> no new supplements, no added stress, it looks like no malignancy or
> other gyn problems. i just really, really hate the idea of taking more
> pills, and from what i've heard, BP meds are EXPEN$IVE. so -- we'll
> see!
>
> if anyone knows, does BP rise during early menopause? does it
> straighten itself out after you get further along in the menopausal
> ...err, "journey" (hee!), or is it something that you're stuck with? or
> is it unrelated altogether, and for some unknown reason my BP has just
> gotten high out of the blue?
>
> anyway, i'll have the latest results some time next week, and i'm
> really NOT worrying about it. the doc doesn't think they'll come back
> abnormal, we're just making sure to cover the bases, for my peace of
> mind and his malpractice rates, most likely. ;->
>
> i'll be ordering groceries online, after Dennis wakes up. Tam's
> boyfriend is going to do Thanksgiving with us, and i'm TOTALLY looking
> forward to it! :-> one thing i might never have found out if not for
> M.S., since before then i was always working and always busy -- not
> only am i a good cook, I really LIKE cooking! :->
>
> i get so jazzed over the silliest things. i'm not complaining -- it's
> fun. :->
>
> XO,
> RD
>
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