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| smilinphil 2005-10-27, 6:44 pm |
| Long email below talking about misdiagnosis of MS because of Aspartame
(artificial sweetener) 'poisoning'. The biggest question is that if you
have had a positive MRI and spinal tap, is that not more conclusive than
symptoms alone? I believe that the misdiagnosis they are referring to are
totally symptom based.
Phil
> In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick. She had stomach
> spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major
> chore. It took everything she had just to get out
> of bed; she was in so much pain.
>
> By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and
> was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not
> determine what was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so
> sick...she just knew she was dying.
>
> She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest
> daughters name, and made sure that her younger children were to be taken
> care of. She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to FL
> (basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.
>
>
>
> On March 19th I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she
> said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.
>
> I recalled an article a friend of mine E-mailed to me and I asked my
> sister if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of
> fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment... I told her
> not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda !!! I E-mailed her the
> article my friend, a lawyer, had sent.
>
> My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told
> me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk!!!! The
> muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but she sure felt a
> lot better. She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and
> would call me when she got home.
>
> Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call
> all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners
> of any kind...
>
> In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet soda...
> and literally dying a slow and miserable death.
>
> When she got to FL March 22nd, all she had to take was one pill, and that
> was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a
> complete recovery .. and she is walking!!! No wheelchair!!!
>
> This article saved her life If it says "SUGAR FREE" on the label, DO NOT
> EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!
>
> I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE
> on "ASPARTAME," marketed as 'NutraSweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'
>
> In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United
> States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic
> lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this
> to be rampant.
>
> I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject. I
> will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this
> sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to
> formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic
> acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The
> methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and
> systemic lupus.
>
> Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although multiple sclerosis is
> not a death sentence.. methanol toxicity is!
>
> Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis,
> especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers. The victim usually does
> not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use;
> irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a
> life-threatening condition. We have seen patients with systemic lupus
> become asymptotic, once taken off diet sodas.
>
> In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, (when in reality, the
> disease is methanol toxicity), most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen
> many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss improved markedly.
>
> This also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia.
>
> During a lecture, I said, "If you are using ASPARTAME (NutraSweet, Equal,
> Spoonful, etc.) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms,
> shooting, pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo,
> dizziness,headaches, tinnitus, joint pain, unexplainable depression,
> anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss...you
> probably have ASPARTAME poisoning!"
>
> People were jumping up during the lecture saying, "I have some of these
> symptoms."
>
> Is it reversible?" Yes! Yes! Yes! STOP drinking diet sodas and be alert
> for Aspartame on food labels!
>
> Many products are fortified with it!!!
>
> This is a serious problem. Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that
> so many people seem to be symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit
> to a hospice; a nurse stated that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet
> Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!
>
> Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple
> SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you
> crave carbohydrates. It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!
>
> These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat cells,
> particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute toxin and
> is used primarily to preserve "tissue specimens."
>
> Many products we use every day! contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT
> store it IN our body!!!
>
> Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the "diet
> products" and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost
> an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.
>
> Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We found that some
> physicians, who believed that they had a patient with retinopathy, in
> fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame. The Aspartame drives the blood
> sugar out of control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to
> the fact that aspartic acid and phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken
> without the other amino acids necessary for a good balance. Treating
> diabetes is all about BALANCE. Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame
> passes the blood/brain barrier and it then deteriorates the neurons of the
> brain; causing various levels of brain damage, seizures, depression, manic
> depression, panic attacks, uncontrollable anger and rage.
>
> Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics, as
> well.
>
> Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children
> diagnosed with ADD and AHD have had complete turnarounds in their behavior
> when these chemicals have been removed from their diet. So called
> "behavior modification prescription drugs" (Ritalin and others) are no
> longer needed. Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place!
>
> Most of these children were being "poisoned" on a daily basis with the
> very foods that were "better for them than sugar."
>
> It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of diet
> Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War,
> may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.
>
> Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e., mental
> retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early
> pregnancy. Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and
> should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners. There are many different case
> histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other
> neurological disturbances due to the use of NutraSweet.
>
> Unfortunately, it is not always easy to convince people that Aspartame is
> to blame for their child's illness. Stevia, which, which is a sweet herb,
> NOT A MANUFACTURED ADDITIVE, helps in the metabolism of sugar, which would
> be ideal for diabetics. It has now been approved as a dietary supplement
> by the FDA. It is known that for many years the FDA outlawed this true
> sweet food," due to their loyalty to MONSANTO Chemical Company."
>
> Books on this subject are available:
>
> EXCITOTOXINS: THE TASTE THAT KILLS written by Dr. Russell Blayblock
> (Health Press 1-800-643-2665) AND: DEFENSE AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S
> DISEASE-written by DR H. J. Roberts, also a diabetic specialist.
>
> These two doctors will soon be posting a position paper with case
> histories on the deadly effects of Aspartame on the Internet. According to
> the Conference of the American college of Physicians, "We are talking
> about a plague of neurological diseases directly caused by the use of this
> deadly poison."
>
> Herein lies the problem: There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame
> was included 100 different products and strong objection was made
> concerning it's use. Since this initial hearing, there have been two
> subsequent hearings and still, nothing has been done. The drug and
> chemical lobbies have very deep pockets. Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on
> Aspartame has EXPIRED!!
>
> There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly
> chemical and there will be thousands more introduced.
>
> Everybody wants a "piece of the Aspartame pie." I assure you that
> MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is. And isn't it
> ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American Diabetes
> Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference of the
> American college of Physicians? This has been recently exposed in the New
> York Times. These cannot criticize any additives or convey their link to
> MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required
> to endorse their products.
>
> Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require
> label warnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding
> pregnant women, children and infants. The bill would also institute
> independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the
> general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry,
> neurological changes and behavioral symptoms. The bill was killed.
>
> It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible
> for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting
> and uninformed public.
>
> Well, you're informed now!!!! YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!!!!
>
> Please print this out and/or e-mail to your family and friends. They have
> a right to know too.
>
>
>
>
>
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| gwajean48 2005-10-27, 6:44 pm |
| smilingphit,
Aspartame gives me vertigo. If someone is sensitive to it,
discontinuing the product containing the aspartame will result in this
type of symptom disappearing in a few days.
If I were drinking diet soda pop and/or eating things with this
artificial sweetener, I would cease and see if all symptoms disappear.
With me, I have no vertigo once I stop using the product although my
real MS symptons such as gait disturbances and balance issues continue.
The major complaints I see written about by MS patients consuming
aspartame are related to headaches, vertigo and seizures.
A positive MRI and spinal tap is conclusive in my book.
smilinphil wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Long email below talking about misdiagnosis of MS because of Aspartame
> (artificial sweetener) 'poisoning'. The biggest question is that if you
> have had a positive MRI and spinal tap, is that not more conclusive than
> symptoms alone? I believe that the misdiagnosis they are referring to are
> totally symptom based.
>
> Phil
>
>
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| gwajean48 2005-10-27, 6:44 pm |
| Sorry I misspelled your name, smilingphil. I can't figure out how to
change it on the posting though.
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| smilinphil 2005-10-27, 6:44 pm |
| > Sorry I misspelled your name, smilingphil. I can't figure out how to
No worries. There is, however, no excuse for people I work with to
continually misspell it. Really, they can't spell Phil.
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| There are several diseases that can cause symptoms like MS, essentially MS
takes a while to be diagnosed because other things need to be ruled out.
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"smilinphil" <phil@laku.com> wrote in message
news:1130441999.46407@newsreg.cos.agilent.com...
> Long email below talking about misdiagnosis of MS because of Aspartame
> (artificial sweetener) 'poisoning'. The biggest question is that if you
> have had a positive MRI and spinal tap, is that not more conclusive than
> symptoms alone? I believe that the misdiagnosis they are referring to are
> totally symptom based.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
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| Hi Phil!
>Long email below talking about >misdiagnosis of MS because of >Aspartame
>(artificial sweetener) 'poisoning'.
Uh, oh! You've stirred up a real hornets' nest now! Wrap your
computer in asbestos, because here comes the flamewar! <grin>
Seriously, you are correct in saying that a positive MRI and spinal tap
hold far more weight in your diagnosis than symptoms.
The aspartame as a cause theory has been around here since forever.
This is, to put it bluntly, bullhockey. MS has been around much longer
than aspartame; I had it before aspartame was so available.
Aspartame did NOT give me MS, but it sure makes my symptoms worse. I
get dizzy, numb, and generally spacey if I ingest that stuff. Other
people I know get stomach upset, headaches, and other fun stuff from
it.
I decided long ago to kick the aspartame. Was I cured? I wish!
Now you'll probably see what I'm talking about; the "pros" and the
"antis" will have it out here once again. *sigh*
I won't use the name of the main culprit in this arena because, as soon
as you put the name in here, you'll get the person yapping away again.
Or one of the stooges.
Stick with us, Phil. We may even avoid any flak on this. . .the topic
has been dormant for a while.
Sylvia
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| "Sylv" <Sylv772003@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1130448360.545111.12980
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
> The aspartame as a cause theory has been around here since forever.
> This is, to put it bluntly, bullhockey. MS has been around much longer
> than aspartame; I had it before aspartame was so available.
>
> Aspartame did NOT give me MS, but it sure makes my symptoms worse. I
> get dizzy, numb, and generally spacey if I ingest that stuff. Other
> people I know get stomach upset, headaches, and other fun stuff from
> it.
>
> I decided long ago to kick the aspartame. Was I cured? I wish!
Let me reiterate ASPARTAME DOES NOT CAUSE MS. I do not recall anyone
claiming that it does. Read carefully the posts in question and that is not
what is said. It is said, and I agree, that aspartame can cause an MS-LIKE
condition. I definately do not have aspartame caused MS-like symptoms, and
it sounds like you don't either. I have not intentionally used aspartame in
over 15 years. I am very allergic to it. It definately makes my MS symptoms
worse. There is no harm in trying an aspartame free diet for a while. See
for yourself if your symptoms get better. They may not. Anyone with MS
should find out.
Fred.
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| Michael 2005-10-27, 6:44 pm |
|
"Fred" <none@none.none> wrote in message
news:m4c8f.28862$fE5.15502@fed1read06...
> "Sylv" <Sylv772003@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1130448360.545111.12980
> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> Let me reiterate ASPARTAME DOES NOT CAUSE MS. I do not recall anyone
> claiming that it does. Read carefully the posts in question and that is
> not
> what is said. It is said, and I agree, that aspartame can cause an MS-LIKE
> condition.
On what basis do you agree that it can cause such a condition?
Despite almost 25 years of attempts to produce it, this result never been
shown.
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| But see:
http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBUrban...shtml#aspartame
"smilinphil" <phil@laku.com> wrote in message
news:1130441999.46407@newsreg.cos.agilent.com...
> Long email below talking about misdiagnosis of MS because of Aspartame
> (artificial sweetener) 'poisoning'. The biggest question is that if you
> have had a positive MRI and spinal tap, is that not more conclusive than
> symptoms alone? I believe that the misdiagnosis they are referring to are
> totally symptom based.
>
> Phil
>
>
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| smilinphil 2005-10-27, 6:44 pm |
| Thanks everyone. I guess I am new to this and will propose all kinds of
things that I believe are major breakthroughs. Thanks for humoring me.
I was in no way implying that Aspartame causes MS, rather MS-like symptoms
and bad diagnoses. I am glad to know that the diagnosis I received is most
likely accurate. The neuros even say nothing is 100% accurate. Remember my
comments a few days ago about absolute truths? There aren't that many when
it comes to MS.
With regards to taking a while to being diagnosed, was it that unusual that
it took only about a week from my first symptom of slurred speech for the
docs to figure it out. One MRI (probable) and one spinal tap (highly
likely) later, they were above 90% convinced.
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| "Michael" <muirhead@haidagwaii.net> wrote in
news:dZSdnUU-ZNO60vzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@qcislands.net:
>
> "Fred" <none@none.none> wrote in message
> news:m4c8f.28862$fE5.15502@fed1read06...
>
> On what basis do you agree that it can cause such a condition?
>
> Despite almost 25 years of attempts to produce it, this result never
> been shown.
Experience with it. It causes neurological symptoms in me. It makes my
symptoms worse. I know people that discovered that aspartame was
actually the cause of the problems they were having. I am not saying
that aspartame is evil and the cause of all sorts of problems. I am
saying that the substance is far from benign and people should see for
themselves if it is causing them problems. Do not take someone's word
for it that it is safe. It may be safe for you. It may be harmful for
you. If an aspartame-free diet does nothing for you, go back on
aspartame. If it helps, avoid aspartame. I frankly do not care it
aspartame was proven safe or if it was proven harmful. I know how it
affects me and I avoid it. Someone should see for themself if it affects
them badly.
Fred.
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| Fred;
The posts Phil quoted said that people diagnosed with MS became
asymptomatic when they stopped using aspartame. I have read variations
of this email before, and I have seen it claimed that aspartame causes
MS.
I am on the same page you are with aspartame; I haven't used it in over
8 years. If I accidentally consume it, I feel the effects; dizziness
and numbness. This is not psychological, as I have gotten the effects
without knowing something contained aspartame.
I don't know if what is said about the breakdown of aspartame is
correct or not, but something neurological is going on. I avoid it.
Sylvia
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| GT Tick 2005-10-29, 11:38 am |
| Phil says....."Thanks everyone. I guess I am new to this and will
propose all kinds of things that I believe are major breakthroughs.
Thanks for humoring me.".....
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Oh stick around Phil, you're just gettin' started. Keep searching and
you'll find that mercury was the cause and Noni juice topped with a
little blue green algae is the cure.
Btw, how tight do you have your spam filter set? Did you get my email?
Tick
*****Don't Cry Because It's Over...Smile Because It Happened.*****
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| Michael 2005-10-29, 11:39 am |
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"Fred" <none@none.none> wrote in message
news:Pnd8f.28866$fE5.9072@fed1read06...
> "Michael" <muirhead@haidagwaii.net> wrote in
> news:dZSdnUU-ZNO60vzenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@qcislands.net:
>
>
> Experience with it. It causes neurological symptoms in me. It makes my
> symptoms worse.
Allergies and sensitivities (such as to phenylalanine or to methanol
metabolites) can do that.
The amount of such compounds that might be contained/produced by drinking a
case of diet soda is not appreciably greater than the amount of exactly the
same compounds found normally in a single glass of grapefruit juice.
> I know people that discovered that aspartame was
> actually the cause of the problems they were having. I am not saying
> that aspartame is evil and the cause of all sorts of problems. I am
> saying that the substance is far from benign and people should see for
> themselves if it is causing them problems. Do not take someone's word
> for it that it is safe.
Who the heck said it's safe? Pure, clean *water* isn't safe to consume in
excess.
Aspartame is a hell of a lot safer than aspirin or acetaminophen, and even
in the *least* favourable analysis of the stats I've seen so far, it's only
marginally more hazardous than peanuts... but AFAICT, no one's mounted a
dumbed-down, fact-deprived, decade-plus media campaign to drive *them* off
the market.
> It may be safe for you. It may be harmful for
> you. If an aspartame-free diet does nothing for you, go back on
> aspartame. If it helps, avoid aspartame.
Perfectly sensible advice, and people should always follow it - replacing
the word "Aspartame" with the name of *every* product they consume. :-)
> I frankly do not care it
> aspartame was proven safe or if it was proven harmful. I know how it
> affects me and I avoid it. Someone should see for themself if it affects
> them badly.
>
> Fred.
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| GT Tick 2005-10-29, 11:39 am |
| I wouldn't worry about how they spell your name iffin' I was you...long
as they don't give you in Lihp.
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Group: alt.support.mult-sclerosis Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 2:52pm
(CDT-1) From: phil@laku.com (smilinphil)
No worries. There is, however, no excuse for people I work with to
continually misspell it. Really, they can't spell Phil.
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*****Don't Cry Because It's Over...Smile Because It Happened.*****
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| "Sylv" <Sylv772003@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1130459180.326797.303990
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> The posts Phil quoted said that people diagnosed with MS became
> asymptomatic when they stopped using aspartame. I have read variations
> of this email before, and I have seen it claimed that aspartame causes
> MS.
Where? I have read many claims about aspartame and if they is read closely
at least I see no where is it claimed that aspartame causes MS. It is
claimed that aspartame can cause an MS-like syndrome, but not MS. If
someone became asymptomatic off of aspartame they did not have the disease
MS. They may have had MS symptoms because of aspartame poisoning and not
MS. If an PwMS's symptoms are made worse by aspartame, getting off of it
may lead to a drastic improvement. That doesn't mean that aspartame causes
MS.
Fred.
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| granola 2005-10-29, 11:39 am |
| i recently read that aspartame breaks down to formic acid and then
formaldehyde in our bodies. nasty stuff. i can't tolerate it or
saccherin either.
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| QQQte@webtv.net 2005-10-29, 11:39 am |
| yep' must say i've read this many times. when i used to see better i
read on the tooth paste tube that the paste had aspertame in it....
don't no these days... all i know is aspertame leaves an awful taste in
my mouth.... never use tooth paste anymore just baking soda and
listerine....
i enjoy my diet pepsi but iknow a lot of people think the taste is
bad... it must be the aspertame that eludes me in diet pepsi.... i don't
drink as much water as i should either and that's not good...
i need more proof that once someone stops using aspertame out of fear of
what it might be causing could very well be a placebo affect, which is
more powerful than one can ever imagine..... and then the awful tales
about white sugar are rententless.... just my thoughts and neither one
worry me yet... cept maybe listerine because it tastes awful with that
rubbing alcohol in it:-)
dory
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| Hi Fred;
>Where? I have read many claims about aspartame and if they is read closely
>at least I see no where is it claimed that aspartame causes MS.
I know I saw something along the lines of aspartame causes MS. Now
I'll have to hunt it down. . .be back in a few days <grin> If you like
to see 9 million Google hits, just type in MS and aspartame!
Sylvia
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| Jim Carter 2005-10-29, 11:39 am |
| On 28 Oct 2005 16:36:20 -0700, "Sylv" <Sylv772003@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis:
>I know I saw something along the lines of aspartame causes MS. Now
>I'll have to hunt it down.
Some of the trolls have posted that in this forum.
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to catch copyright violators. ©¿©¬
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| Michael 2005-10-29, 11:39 am |
|
"Jim Carter" <spamfree@sentex.ca> wrote in message
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> On 28 Oct 2005 16:36:20 -0700, "Sylv" <Sylv772003@yahoo.com>
> wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis:
>
>
> Some of the trolls have posted that in this forum.
It was never said that Aspartame causes MS.
What *was* said is that it was the cause of an epidemic of (mistaken) MS
diagnoses in the USA.
However, there's no evidence anywhere that such an epidemic ever took place.
Aspartame Warning
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http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blasp.htm
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http://www.media-awareness.ca/engli...ng_webpages.cfm
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| Hi Phil;
>With regards to taking a while to being diagnosed, was it that unusual that
>it took only about a week from my first symptom of slurred speech for the
>docs to figure it out. One MRI (probable) and one spinal tap (highly
>likely) later, they were above 90% convinced.
My experiences with the diagnosis ride were much like yours; a week of
whattheheck is going on, then a week of MRI (very likely), spinal
(clear), and a few other tests and I was in.
I think we're unusual in that it was such a fast track. Some people
wait years.
Sylvia
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