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Goats serum

Barry Fisher

2004-10-26, 7:26 pm

And anyone tried this and had any results there is significant to answer?

Joyce

2004-10-26, 7:26 pm

Barry,

Type "Aimspro" into the search block at the top of the page and you
will get a lot of info about the goat serum trials. We will get
results from the current trials next June. My fingers are crossed.
There is a lot of information on the web now about the serum.

Joyce

rosebarr@dsl.pipex.com (Barry Fisher) wrote in message news:<f4d7fafa.0410200453.1ae3ec0f@posting.google.com>...
> And anyone tried this and had any results there is significant to answer?

Jamie

2004-10-26, 7:26 pm

if these results are true, why is this drug not being pushed through
quicker. maybe with support from the gov't.

just the thought of goats serum, it sounds like "snake oil", but if 85%
actually have improvements. then that would surpass any treatment out there
today, and also surpasses Antegren.

does anyone else have anymore insight on this?

sorry Wired, i replied to you at first
"Wired" <wiredbeard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f553f468.0410201408.6f79ca8@posting.google.com...
> rosebarr@dsl.pipex.com (Barry Fisher) wrote in message
> news:<f4d7fafa.0410200453.1ae3ec0f@posting.google.com>...
>
> Alan Osmond is a big supporter. (He has MS)
> http://www.osmondms.com/pathways.pdf
>
> the same article for people without adobe acrobat document reader
> installed:
>
> http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cach...oat+serum&hl=en
>
>
> Here is another article about :
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...in_page_id=1774
>
> here is the article reprinted:
>
>
> Jab brings back sight to MS sufferers
> by MARTYN HALLE, Daily Mail
>
> 14:26pm 13th July 2004
> A serum taken from goats' blood looks set to become a new wonder
> treatment for people suffering the crippling effects of multiple
> sclerosis.
> Thousands of people with MS are pressing to be given injections that
> are already transforming lives.
>
> While goat serum is not a cure for the neurological condition, it
> could be the most effective treatment yet at slowing the disease and,
> in some cases, reversing symptoms.
>
> Official trials are under way at the Atkinson Morley Hospital in South
> London, a leading neurological centre, and the results should be known
> in a year's time. But already hundreds are getting the drug on
> compassionate grounds.
>
> Optimisism
>
>
> Around 85 per cent of patients being treated through British drug
> company Daval International report an improvement in symptoms.
>
> Many leading MS experts are expressing extreme caution because there
> have been many false dawns with treatments for the condition.
>
> But consultants such as Dr Bryan Youl, a neurophysiologist at the
> Royal Free Hospital and the National Hospital for Nervous Diseases,
> are optimistic that goat serum - called Aimspro - will not be a
> passing phase.
>
> "All the reports I have had have been good, but we have to be sure
> that the treatment does not just work for a very short while and then
> have no long-term effect," he says.
>
> "A small number of people have been on this stuff for several years,
> before the bulk of people discovered its existence earlier this year.
> And the results from the few who have been on it for some time
> continue to be good.
>
> "We will have to see how the trials go before we can pass serious
> judgment on whether it will be adopted as a main treatment for the
> disease, but the signs are promising."
>
> The official goat serum trials are being carried out by Dr David
> Barnes, a neurologist at Atkinson Morley. Dr Youl is treating patients
> on compassionate grounds.
>
> Vision almost lost
>
>
> Most of Dr Youl's patients suffer from optic neuritis, a complication
> of MS where sight can become black and white and vision almost lost.
>
> Generally, patients' vision is restored after an attack of MS on the
> optic nerve ceases, but some have their sight permanently affected.
>
> All have reported that their vision has been improved or restored to
> near-normal since starting on goat serum.
>
> Deborah Burgess, 42, from Wandsworth, South London, became virtually
> blind six years ago, a few months after the birth of her son, Piers.
>
> Since starting injections three times a week just a few months ago,
> her sight has been restored to the point where she can read, go to the
> cinema and watch TV.
>
> "I've had MS for 11 years and optic neuritis for most of that time,
> but my eyesight would return to normal after a few days. I got used to
> it.
>
> "But after Piers was born, it went. Everything was a blur.
>
> "After I started taking serum injections, my sight came back pretty
> quickly over a couple of weeks and has stayed at the same level.
>
>
> "I can now read ordinary type books to my son and I can go to the
> cinema and see a film with reasonable clarity."
>
> Less fatigued
>
>
> Deborah, who is married to Nicholas, a company director, is still
> largely confined to a wheelchair, but has regained feeling in her legs
> and can walk around the house.
>
> "I have also noticed that I am less fatigued and I have got more
> strength back in my fingers so that I can grip things better. But the
> main improvement has been in my eyes. I never expected them to improve
> after six years."
>
> Dr Youl says such a reversal of loss of eyesight has not been noted in
> patients whose sight has been changed for so long. "Aimspro would
> appear to be having a powerful effect and it seems the change to
> better vision for Deborah could be permanent," he says.
>
> "We think it is blocking the damage caused by MS, but at the same time
> there is a repair process going on."
>
> Helen Yates, chief executive of patient support group the Multiple
> Sclerosis Resource Centre, says reports on Aimspro have been
> "overwhelmingly favourable".
>
> "We have high hopes for the trials being carried out by Dr Barnes at
> Atkinson Morley."
>
> Brian Quick, a spokesman for Daval International, says the company has
> been overwhelmed by interest and adds: "We are optimistic that within
> a couple of years we might be able to get this treatment licensed by
> the medical authorities."

Joyce

2004-10-26, 7:26 pm

Jamie,

Go to the following website and sign a petition to the British
Parliament to hurry the availability of Aimspro to the MS people ASAP.
You can also make a small donation to help the people pushing for
swift release pay their website and postage fees. I believe that some
people have been on this drug for several years with good results.
That is not a long period of time and if it goes through in the next
couple of years, it would be on a very fast track. It is also not
having to go through the FDA, which would stop it cold for years. I
have really gotten interested in this drug the past few days as it is
beginning to appear that it really helps and has to date no side
effects. http://www.proventus.org.uk

"Jamie" <jamievickersnospam@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<MNednW4EQp5wS-rcRVn-uA@rogers.com>...[vbcol=seagreen]
> if these results are true, why is this drug not being pushed through
> quicker. maybe with support from the gov't.
>
> just the thought of goats serum, it sounds like "snake oil", but if 85%
> actually have improvements. then that would surpass any treatment out there
> today, and also surpasses Antegren.
>
> does anyone else have anymore insight on this?
>
> sorry Wired, i replied to you at first
> "Wired" <wiredbeard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f553f468.0410201408.6f79ca8@posting.google.com...

Wired

2004-10-26, 10:08 pm

rosebarr@dsl.pipex.com (Barry Fisher) wrote in message news:<f4d7fafa.0410200453.1ae3ec0f@posting.google.com>...
> And anyone tried this and had any results there is significant to answer?

Alan Osmond is a big supporter. (He has MS)
http://www.osmondms.com/pathways.pdf

the same article for people without adobe acrobat document reader
installed:

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cach...oat+serum&hl=en

Here is another article about :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...in_page_id=1774

here is the article reprinted:

Jab brings back sight to MS sufferers
by MARTYN HALLE, Daily Mail

14:26pm 13th July 2004
A serum taken from goats' blood looks set to become a new wonder
treatment for people suffering the crippling effects of multiple
sclerosis.
Thousands of people with MS are pressing to be given injections that
are already transforming lives.

While goat serum is not a cure for the neurological condition, it
could be the most effective treatment yet at slowing the disease and,
in some cases, reversing symptoms.

Official trials are under way at the Atkinson Morley Hospital in South
London, a leading neurological centre, and the results should be known
in a year's time. But already hundreds are getting the drug on
compassionate grounds.

Optimisism

Around 85 per cent of patients being treated through British drug
company Daval International report an improvement in symptoms.

Many leading MS experts are expressing extreme caution because there
have been many false dawns with treatments for the condition.

But consultants such as Dr Bryan Youl, a neurophysiologist at the
Royal Free Hospital and the National Hospital for Nervous Diseases,
are optimistic that goat serum - called Aimspro - will not be a
passing phase.

"All the reports I have had have been good, but we have to be sure
that the treatment does not just work for a very short while and then
have no long-term effect," he says.

"A small number of people have been on this stuff for several years,
before the bulk of people discovered its existence earlier this year.
And the results from the few who have been on it for some time
continue to be good.

"We will have to see how the trials go before we can pass serious
judgment on whether it will be adopted as a main treatment for the
disease, but the signs are promising."

The official goat serum trials are being carried out by Dr David
Barnes, a neurologist at Atkinson Morley. Dr Youl is treating patients
on compassionate grounds.

Vision almost lost

Most of Dr Youl's patients suffer from optic neuritis, a complication
of MS where sight can become black and white and vision almost lost.

Generally, patients' vision is restored after an attack of MS on the
optic nerve ceases, but some have their sight permanently affected.

All have reported that their vision has been improved or restored to
near-normal since starting on goat serum.

Deborah Burgess, 42, from Wandsworth, South London, became virtually
blind six years ago, a few months after the birth of her son, Piers.

Since starting injections three times a week just a few months ago,
her sight has been restored to the point where she can read, go to the
cinema and watch TV.

"I've had MS for 11 years and optic neuritis for most of that time,
but my eyesight would return to normal after a few days. I got used to
it.

"But after Piers was born, it went. Everything was a blur.

"After I started taking serum injections, my sight came back pretty
quickly over a couple of weeks and has stayed at the same level.

"I can now read ordinary type books to my son and I can go to the
cinema and see a film with reasonable clarity."

Less fatigued

Deborah, who is married to Nicholas, a company director, is still
largely confined to a wheelchair, but has regained feeling in her legs
and can walk around the house.

"I have also noticed that I am less fatigued and I have got more
strength back in my fingers so that I can grip things better. But the
main improvement has been in my eyes. I never expected them to improve
after six years."

Dr Youl says such a reversal of loss of eyesight has not been noted in
patients whose sight has been changed for so long. "Aimspro would
appear to be having a powerful effect and it seems the change to
better vision for Deborah could be permanent," he says.

"We think it is blocking the damage caused by MS, but at the same time
there is a repair process going on."

Helen Yates, chief executive of patient support group the Multiple
Sclerosis Resource Centre, says reports on Aimspro have been
"overwhelmingly favourable".

"We have high hopes for the trials being carried out by Dr Barnes at
Atkinson Morley."

Brian Quick, a spokesman for Daval International, says the company has
been overwhelmed by interest and adds: "We are optimistic that within
a couple of years we might be able to get this treatment licensed by
the medical authorities."

abdi

2004-10-29, 11:10 am

Actually that does not stop the idiots.

--
abdi ---- Quaecomque Sunt Vera
"ms-bites" <adjanimals@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1d169ec30b09f0b8cb001f26259d81a0@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com...
> Just an FYI. The goats are not harmed or killed. There blood is just
> withdrawn just like giving blood.
> Check out web sites:
> www.davalinternational.com
> www.mymultiplesclerosis.co.uk
> www.proventus.org.uk
> for more information.
>
>
>