Psoriasis support - Newbie Checking In

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Newbie Checking In

Monkkey's Unkle

2006-07-14, 8:27 am

Hi, gang,

I am just checking in for the first time. This has not been my month --
believe me. Wednesday of last week I found out that I have lung cancer
and yesterday I found out that the horrible skin condition I have had for
the last two weeks is one of the most severe cases of psoriasis my doctor
has ever seen. I wonder if there is a connection.

Anyway, I will be lurking and sometimes posting. What causes this yukky
skin nightmare -- and how long before I get rid of it (the sooner the
better, believe you me)? If it keeps up too long, suicide by lung cancer
may be a temptation.

--
It's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's a Monkkey's Unkle.

Dick

2006-07-14, 8:27 am

Wanderer

2006-07-14, 8:27 am

Hello Monkkey.. Well I really hope that it will disappear for you. Sooner than later of course.

I am ready to chuck in the towel at this point I can hardly stand myself because of this condition. I hate going out anywhere. Instead of a gun, I pack a vacuum on my hip. It is like "Have Vacuum, Will Travel".

I know there are other conditions that are much worse but right now my quality of life is pretty bad. I only come out in the winter.

I am praying for you Monkkey that you will not have it long. Sometimes a shock to the body will bring this on.

Hugs, L.J.
"Monkkey's Unkle" <MonkkeysUnkle@guess.where> wrote in message news:pan.2006.07.14.09.16.14.638782@guess.where...
Hi, gang,

I am just checking in for the first time. This has not been my month --
believe me. Wednesday of last week I found out that I have lung cancer
and yesterday I found out that the horrible skin condition I have had for
the last two weeks is one of the most severe cases of psoriasis my doctor
has ever seen. I wonder if there is a connection.

Anyway, I will be lurking and sometimes posting. What causes this yukky
skin nightmare -- and how long before I get rid of it (the sooner the
better, believe you me)? If it keeps up too long, suicide by lung cancer
may be a temptation.

--
It's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's a Monkkey's Unkle.

JXStern

2006-07-14, 8:27 am

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 02:16:14 -0700, Monkkey's Unkle
<MonkkeysUnkle@guess.where> wrote:
>I am just checking in for the first time. This has not been my month --
>believe me. Wednesday of last week I found out that I have lung cancer
>and yesterday I found out that the horrible skin condition I have had for
>the last two weeks is one of the most severe cases of psoriasis my doctor
>has ever seen. I wonder if there is a connection.
>
>Anyway, I will be lurking and sometimes posting. What causes this yukky
>skin nightmare -- and how long before I get rid of it (the sooner the
>better, believe you me)? If it keeps up too long, suicide by lung cancer
>may be a temptation.

You may have a tiny bit of luck, in that some anticancer treatments,
most famously methotrexate, also tend to improve psoriasis.

But you are going to have some tough times ahead, it sounds like.
Hope we can help with a thought, a word, and a prayer, as well as any
information or crazed speculations we can also offer.

Best wishes,
J.

Monkkey's Unkle

2006-07-14, 4:25 pm

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 05:26:51 -0500, Dick wrote:

> What effort has your doctor made to clear the Psoriasis? Is he a cancer
> specialist? If so perhaps you should also see a dermatologist.

The psoriasis was diagnosed the day before yesterday by my family doctor
who also did a biopsy, the results of which I should hear later today.

Later today I am going to have a "telephone appointment" with the
internist who originally diagnosed the lung cancer (and confirmed it with
a biopsy). I doubt if I will even mention it to him except to avise him
of the condition in case of any problems. On the 28th, I will see my
dermatologist about ongoing treatment with basal cell and squamish cell
skin cancers. You had better believe I will tell her -- unless she would
have done her homework and read it in my charts from my family doctor and
internist (who all work for the same HMO).

> I have been on Enbrel for over 2 years and it works great for me.

You mean that it lasts THAT long. YUK!!!!

--
By gollie, I'll be a Monkkey's Unkle.

Dick

2006-07-14, 4:25 pm

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:44:53 -0700, Monkkey's Unkle
<MonkkeysUnkle@guess.where> wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 05:26:51 -0500, Dick wrote:
>
>
>The psoriasis was diagnosed the day before yesterday by my family doctor
>who also did a biopsy, the results of which I should hear later today.
>
>Later today I am going to have a "telephone appointment" with the
>internist who originally diagnosed the lung cancer (and confirmed it with
>a biopsy). I doubt if I will even mention it to him except to avise him
>of the condition in case of any problems. On the 28th, I will see my
>dermatologist about ongoing treatment with basal cell and squamish cell
>skin cancers. You had better believe I will tell her -- unless she would
>have done her homework and read it in my charts from my family doctor and
>internist (who all work for the same HMO).
>
>
>You mean that it lasts THAT long. YUK!!!!

I had my first symptom over 20 years ago. Mine increased in it
distribution, more every year. I tried several dermatologists over
those years and several salves that slowed the growth or at least kept
the scales from being, flaky and itchy. I learned of Enbrel from this
group and asked my GP about a prescription. He was happy to try it as
his arthritis patients had no problem using it.

It just doesn't know to go away until you hit it hard and in soft
regions. <g>

dick

GrandpaChuck

2006-07-14, 9:24 pm

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 02:16:14 -0700, Monkkey's Unkle
<MonkkeysUnkle@guess.where> wrote:

>Hi, gang,
>
>I am just checking in for the first time. This has not been my month --
>believe me. Wednesday of last week I found out that I have lung cancer
>and yesterday I found out that the horrible skin condition I have had for
>the last two weeks is one of the most severe cases of psoriasis my doctor
>has ever seen. I wonder if there is a connection.
>
>Anyway, I will be lurking and sometimes posting. What causes this yukky
>skin nightmare -- and how long before I get rid of it (the sooner the
>better, believe you me)? If it keeps up too long, suicide by lung cancer
>may be a temptation.

Oh my goodness, gracious - as my Grandma used to say.

"What causes psoriasis?" For all that I have ever heard of it and
about it the cause is genetic. It runs in families - sometimes. I am
sixty six and have had it to one degree or another all of my life. I
have plaque psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. I have kept my head
shaved since 1983 in order to get sunlight on my scalp. When I first
shaved my head out of desperation due to the constant itching,
scaling, weeping fluid and bleeding my entire scalp was covered with
plaques. That was when my family doctor recognized it for what it
really is and sent me to a good dermatologist.

"How long before I get rid of it?" The good news is that there are
medications and treatments that can control it for most of us. The
trick is to find the right one since what works well for one person
may not work at all for the next. Without treatment it may go into
submission or it may become worse. Be sure to check out the web site
at http://www.psoriasis.org/home/
They are there to help and devote almost al of their money to research
and helping people with this condition.

I developed psoriatic arthritis in both hands about five years ago, or
at least that is what we think. Don't know for sure since I already
had osteoarthritis in both of my hands and other joints.

My dermatologist currently has me on Methotrexate twice a day on
Mondays and Tuesdays. It has cleared over 90% of my plaque psoriasis.
He is not allowed to treat me psoriatic arthritis, but the medication
also has alleviated it.

My sister is seventy years old and she too has plaque psoriasis,
psoriatic arthritis and type 2 diabetes. We wondered if there was a
connection between the psoriasis and diabetes just as you have
wondered if there is a connection between the P and your cancer. We
found out that the percentage of people with P that are also T2
diabetics my be just a little higher than the general population, but
not enough to make a correlation. I suspect you may find that same
thing with your P and your cancer.

Psoriasis is nothing to become so depressed about to consider suicide.
Besides, stress has been shown to aggravate the condition.

In the past since I worked outside I wore shorts and sleeveless shirts
all summer long. If someone noticed my P on my arms, my legs, my
torso, my face or my scalp and if they had enough courage to ask me
what it was I thanked them for asking. Then I used it as an
opportunity to give that person, and anyone else close enough to hear,
a brief education in what P is and what it is not. A man that worked
where I did spouted off to some of our coworkers if the got psoriasis
from operating a piece of equipment that I had operated he was going
to sue our employer and me. He did not know that I had been told about
his remarks until one day when I called him aside about it. I took
about five minutes to explain what it is and that the only way he
could get it from me would be if he were my son. I told him I was very
happy that he not only was not my son, but that we were not related in
any manner whatever. I even asked him to touch the plaque so he could
see that it was just very thick skin. He refused. Imagine that.

Another time I was in a drug store/natural healing products store
where they sell many different kinds of creams, lotions, ointments,
etc. I noticed a clerk who was applying some to a customer in an
effort to sell some product to the person. I patiently waited until
they were done. I then asked the clerk if any of them were recommended
for psoriasis. She said, "Oh yes sir, this one is supposed to be very
good for psoriasis." (I had her just where I wanted her.) I then asked
her if she would please rub some of it into the psoriasis on the back
of my elbow. Her mouth dropped open; she turned scarlet; stepped back
a couple of steps and actually said, "I'm not touching that stuff!" I
laughed and told her it is just skin that happens to be very thick and
is not contagious or a carrier of infection. Then I told her if she
intended to keep going in her field she had best learn to accept
people and their skin conditions or find another line of work.

I even went so far as to have the web address of psoriasis.org printed
on a T-shirt and a baseball cap.

I wish you all the best. Stop worrying and you will already have a
pretty good start at controlling your P.

--
Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of July 12, 2006 is 2,546. Americans wounded = more than 18,356 United Kingdom = 113 Other = 113
In January through March over 3800 Iraqi civilians were killed.Most of them by the so-called insurgents.

Today, July 14, 2006 it has been 1170 days since Bush declared,"Mission Accomplished in Iraq." Why do some people still believe what he says?

Dick

2006-07-15, 4:26 pm

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:19:37 GMT, GrandpaChuck <GrandpaChuck@B4ME.org>
wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 02:16:14 -0700, Monkkey's Unkle
><MonkkeysUnkle@guess.where> wrote:
>
>
>Oh my goodness, gracious - as my Grandma used to say.
>
>"What causes psoriasis?" For all that I have ever heard of it and
>about it the cause is genetic. It runs in families - sometimes. I am
>sixty six and have had it to one degree or another all of my life. I
>have plaque psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. I have kept my head
>shaved since 1983 in order to get sunlight on my scalp. When I first
>shaved my head out of desperation due to the constant itching,
>scaling, weeping fluid and bleeding my entire scalp was covered with
>plaques. That was when my family doctor recognized it for what it
>really is and sent me to a good dermatologist.
>
>"How long before I get rid of it?" The good news is that there are
>medications and treatments that can control it for most of us. The
>trick is to find the right one since what works well for one person
>may not work at all for the next. Without treatment it may go into
>submission or it may become worse. Be sure to check out the web site
>at http://www.psoriasis.org/home/
>They are there to help and devote almost al of their money to research
>and helping people with this condition.
>
>I developed psoriatic arthritis in both hands about five years ago, or
>at least that is what we think. Don't know for sure since I already
>had osteoarthritis in both of my hands and other joints.
>
>My dermatologist currently has me on Methotrexate twice a day on
>Mondays and Tuesdays. It has cleared over 90% of my plaque psoriasis.
>He is not allowed to treat me psoriatic arthritis, but the medication
>also has alleviated it.
>
>My sister is seventy years old and she too has plaque psoriasis,
>psoriatic arthritis and type 2 diabetes. We wondered if there was a
>connection between the psoriasis and diabetes just as you have
>wondered if there is a connection between the P and your cancer. We
>found out that the percentage of people with P that are also T2
>diabetics my be just a little higher than the general population, but
>not enough to make a correlation. I suspect you may find that same
>thing with your P and your cancer.
>
>Psoriasis is nothing to become so depressed about to consider suicide.
>Besides, stress has been shown to aggravate the condition.
>
>In the past since I worked outside I wore shorts and sleeveless shirts
>all summer long. If someone noticed my P on my arms, my legs, my
>torso, my face or my scalp and if they had enough courage to ask me
>what it was I thanked them for asking. Then I used it as an
>opportunity to give that person, and anyone else close enough to hear,
>a brief education in what P is and what it is not. A man that worked
>where I did spouted off to some of our coworkers if the got psoriasis
>from operating a piece of equipment that I had operated he was going
>to sue our employer and me. He did not know that I had been told about
>his remarks until one day when I called him aside about it. I took
>about five minutes to explain what it is and that the only way he
>could get it from me would be if he were my son. I told him I was very
>happy that he not only was not my son, but that we were not related in
>any manner whatever. I even asked him to touch the plaque so he could
>see that it was just very thick skin. He refused. Imagine that.
>
>Another time I was in a drug store/natural healing products store
>where they sell many different kinds of creams, lotions, ointments,
>etc. I noticed a clerk who was applying some to a customer in an
>effort to sell some product to the person. I patiently waited until
>they were done. I then asked the clerk if any of them were recommended
>for psoriasis. She said, "Oh yes sir, this one is supposed to be very
>good for psoriasis." (I had her just where I wanted her.) I then asked
>her if she would please rub some of it into the psoriasis on the back
>of my elbow. Her mouth dropped open; she turned scarlet; stepped back
>a couple of steps and actually said, "I'm not touching that stuff!" I
>laughed and told her it is just skin that happens to be very thick and
>is not contagious or a carrier of infection. Then I told her if she
>intended to keep going in her field she had best learn to accept
>people and their skin conditions or find another line of work.
>
>I even went so far as to have the web address of psoriasis.org printed
>on a T-shirt and a baseball cap.
>
>I wish you all the best. Stop worrying and you will already have a
>pretty good start at controlling your P.

Who me worry? Not all answers fits all people. I have had P since my
40s, at 71 I am so glad to have one of my problems under control. I
am one of many who have rid myself of all symptoms by using Enbrel.

dick

Fizziwig2

2006-07-15, 4:26 pm

"Monkkey's Unkle" <MonkkeysUnkle@guess.where> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.07.14.09.16.14.638782@guess.where...
> Hi, gang,
>
> I am just checking in for the first time. This has not been my month --
> believe me. Wednesday of last week I found out that I have lung cancer
> and yesterday I found out that the horrible skin condition I have had for
> the last two weeks is one of the most severe cases of psoriasis my doctor
> has ever seen. I wonder if there is a connection.
>
> Anyway, I will be lurking and sometimes posting. What causes this yukky
> skin nightmare -- and how long before I get rid of it (the sooner the
> better, believe you me)? If it keeps up too long, suicide by lung cancer
> may be a temptation.
>
> --
> It's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's a Monkkey's Unkle.

I'm very sorry to hear of your problems.

Not being medically informed I can just say you have my support.
Have you tried this link for lung cancer information?

http://www.lungcanceronline.org/

The only advice I would venture to give you is to write down all your
questions before you see a specialist, especially the psoriasis connection.
He/she might be able to refer you to a colleague and they both could
co-ordinate your treatment.

Skeats

randall

2006-07-15, 4:26 pm

Fizziwig2 wrote:

<sniP>.
>
> I'm very sorry to hear of your problems.

They're worse then he reported to us now.

http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...3d8kOSjtrMCjiSg

If one goes back to his vegan posts, one wonders if the
C hasn't become omega-6 and carb fueled.

He may be pouring to much sugar (carbs) on the fire (cancer).

>
> Not being medically informed I can just say you have my support.
> Have you tried this link for lung cancer information?
>
> http://www.lungcanceronline.org/

Nice link.
>
> The only advice I would venture to give you is to write down all your
> questions before you see a specialist, especially the psoriasis connection.
> He/she might be able to refer you to a colleague and they both could
> co-ordinate your treatment.

He may need to refigure his priorites first.

I hoPe he can SEE his whey to a C cure.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...in1789823.shtml

[...]
Fatty Acid Balance

When it comes to reducing AMD risk, striking the right fatty acid
balance might be important, note Seddon and colleagues.

In their study, the reduced AMD risk was mainly seen in people who
consumed high levels of omega-3 fatty acids and low levels of an
omega-6 fatty acid called linoleic acid, which is found in vegetable
oils including corn, safflower, and sunflower.

Seddon and colleagues aren't against omega-6 fatty acids. But they
note that a lot of people consume way too much omega-6 fatty acids,
compared with omega-3 fatty acids.

"The ideal omega-6/omega-3 ratio is 3:1 to 4:1," Seddon's team
writes.

"However, the average American's diet has an omega-6/omega-3 ratio
that ranges from 10:1 to 50:1 ... Our results suggest that when our
diet is rich in these omega-6 fatty acids (as measured here by linoleic
acid), the protective effect of omega-3 fatty acids is dampened."
<sniP>

---------------------------------------------------

Still,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...t_uids=16825680

The omega-3's have to be consumed to change the ratio.

------------------------------------------------------

The ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 is critical for inflammation. While
acute inflammation
is one thing, slow grinding never yielding chronic is the battle best
fought with a homeostasis strategy.

And while that WAR can be won and or prevented with n-3:n-6 ratio's,
it's certainly
even more important for those skewed towards the Th1 or Th2 side of the
immune
equation.But what is MONKkey? He seems to have both skews of T helper
cells. Why? Is it iatrogenic?

If your psoriatic and lean towards a genetic profile of T helper 1
cells (Th1) versus
a person who is prone to Th2 (cancer), omega-6 may be driving chronic
inflammation
that perpetrates both TH1/2 diseases.

http://www.iir.suite.dk/IIR/03Th/Th.htm

To find some posts a little more readable.

http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...sis&qt_s=Search

But why would monkkey go vegetarian if he didn't expect it to help his
cause?

This brings up that famous vegetarian, AAjonus who became a raw meat
eater to
cure his cancer. While he had psoriasis, he admitted to it being
triggered by
the cancer meds. He looks great now and P free. Monkkeys
P could be due to the cancer meds as well and his latest post on C
looks
grim. (read author search above- latest post)

As to AAjonus,

http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...sis&qt_s=Search

If I were monkkey i'd find the highest quality raw fats loaded with
omega-3's
and go to town. Cut out the carbs till the cancer goes back in to
remission and
then re-think my strategy.

randall.. getting a handle on C.

>
> Skeats

DS67

2006-07-21, 2:25 am

"Monkkey's Unkle" <MonkkeysUnkle@guess.where> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.07.14.09.16.14.638782@guess.where...
> Hi, gang,
>
> I am just checking in for the first time. This has not been my month --
> believe me. Wednesday of last week I found out that I have lung cancer
> and yesterday I found out that the horrible skin condition I have had for
> the last two weeks is one of the most severe cases of psoriasis my doctor
> has ever seen. I wonder if there is a connection.
>
> Anyway, I will be lurking and sometimes posting. What causes this yukky
> skin nightmare -- and how long before I get rid of it (the sooner the
> better, believe you me)? If it keeps up too long, suicide by lung cancer
> may be a temptation.
>
> --
> It's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's a Monkkey's Unkle.

sorry guys all I can is say is you are all from the USA and I thank GOD I am
not from the USA we still a health service in Britain and some excellent
dermatoligists and skin specialist nurses and beleive me they haved save my
soul with this shit I only wish everyone could have the benefit of the
health support I have received .

How on earth did someone start associating lung cancer with psoriasis. DOnt
buy into the worst case you doctor ever saw that just suggests he doesnt
have a lot of experince with us flakers

be strong laugh loud and shed your cells over their meals

Monkkey's Unkle

2006-07-23, 4:27 pm

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:58:27 +0100, DS67 wrote:

> How on earth did someone start associating lung cancer with
> psoriasis.

When someone is diagnosed with two conditions in a one week period of
time, it is only natural to wonder. That's how?

--
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