Psoriasis support - omega-3 eggs

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omega-3 eggs

JXStern

2006-02-25, 8:14 pm

I've been eating these for a while now, and Randall, too, Randall
because he likes them, and while I like them too, I find that eating
them helps (a lot!) limiting the bleeding ("Auspitz sign") from
psoriasis when flakes come off.

Anyway, Gold Circle Farms was one of the first to sell these eggs, and
are the ones I've eaten most, and they have an interesting insert in
their cartons regarding what you feed the chickens to raise the
omega-3. They feature DHA omega-3, 300mg per two eggs. They list
three ways to raise the omega-3:

Marine Microalgae: DHA, neutral flavor.
Fish/Fish Oil: DHA/EPA, fish flavor.
Flaxseed/Oil: LNA, grass-like flavor.

They claim the DHA is the omega-3 you want.

Now, reading carefully, they don't say they use all and only marine
microalgae, they say they use "MartekDHA", "nature's original and
purest source of DHA". Now I'm confused.

http://www.martekbio.com/home.asp

Seems Martek refines the algae, and I guess Gold Circle buys and uses
the resulting DHA-rich oils for chicken feed.

Anyway I like Gold Circle eggs best.

J.

randall

2006-02-25, 8:14 pm

JXStern wrote:
> I've been eating these for a while now, and Randall, too, Randall
> because he likes them,

Give it to Mikey to see if he likes it?
http://www.rareads.com/scans/14214.jpg

When I was his age i was a known cereal junky. It took three to
four heaping spoonfuls of sugar to get it just right. And I stayed that
way thru my teens. But the p was a minor hassle and didn't take off
till the mid teens.

Had I been breastfed and or on the current dha fortified baby formula's
would i have
fared better P wise?

A darn hard question to answer till the exact nature of the dna is
worked out.

Being early onset should be easily explained then as well.

But will J's et al's symmetry thing be answered?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....rch?q=symmetry&

> and while I like them too, I find that eating
> them helps (a lot!) limiting the bleeding ("Auspitz sign") from
> psoriasis when flakes come off.

After reading the current issue of Life Enhancement's healthExtra
(Liver Protection) - Week of January 29, 2006

I'm of the mind to increase egg consumption to 6-10 week. Personal
cravings
has diminished so much that i've dropped below 3-4 week on average.

While the Dha thing is good, i'm already getting plenty via the fish
oils/cod liver oil
from costco.
>
> Anyway, Gold Circle Farms was one of the first to sell these eggs, and
> are the ones I've eaten most, and they have an interesting insert in
> their cartons regarding what you feed the chickens to raise the
> omega-3. They feature DHA omega-3, 300mg per two eggs. They list
> three ways to raise the omega-3:
>
> Marine Microalgae: DHA, neutral flavor.
> Fish/Fish Oil: DHA/EPA, fish flavor.
> Flaxseed/Oil: LNA, grass-like flavor.
>
> They claim the DHA is the omega-3 you want.

Right and what cruiser had figured Uwe was using at one point for his
magic detox formula for CFS and p by default.

I should google old uwe and see what he's up too. But not now.
Using a translator (for his native language) is a chore better left to
later and I suspect whatever his detox formula had in it cruiser has
already tested sufficiently to
know that there wasn't any magic for us anyway.

Lack of magic ='s some screwed up genetic's most likely.

Even though the lowest fat diets with the least amount of omega-6's
still seems key. And it has to be more then a digestion problem
as postulated by Mikhail.

Speaking of translators I wonder if he's working on the last crop of
posts
to P news after Mikhail made his last postings.

Digesting the LPS;s seems like a good idea but didn't Pete and the guy
who went to Romania get slim to zero results with that?

>
> Now, reading carefully, they don't say they use all and only marine
> microalgae, they say they use "MartekDHA", "nature's original and
> purest source of DHA". Now I'm confused.

Why?
>
> http://www.martekbio.com/home.asp

Ok try their product page.

http://www.martekbio.com/Nutritiona...ntroduction.asp
After reading this I couldn't help but think of soylent green. <g>
And please leave out the ARA (arachidonic acid) as we know
that high levels of it contribute to the flares of P. But very
helpful for growing children up to the late teens.

The they wean themselves with beer. lol

Search AA in the P group,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....rch?q=aa+delta&

We haven't looked at delta 5 & 6 enzymes lately.

I should follow up on them for anything new in pubmed.

Tomorrow.
>
> Seems Martek refines the algae, and I guess Gold Circle buys and uses
> the resulting DHA-rich oils for chicken feed.

And bingo! We get a more natural egg. They need to feed the farm raised
fish
the fish oil and Marine Microalgae. lol

Just like what they would have eaten had they been in the wild. <g>
>
> Anyway I like Gold Circle eggs best.

I don't have a favorite. I'll do a better comparison. It seems like
the
one i liked best is sold out the next time I go back. There are three
brands and
so popular that half to three quarters of the case is empty every time
I go thru. The the next time i forget and it becomes a chicken or egg
thing.

And the same thing with flax seed oil now. I know i've used at least
four
diffrent brands and due to the 25% off, i go from one to the next.

The latest is the fish oil and cod liver oil as well as enteric coated
fish oils from
costco.

The only one I haven't started/tested is the enteric coated
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Produc...h=589*770*1010*
And i'm not so sure at this point that they will make a difference.

But what the heck, worth a try.

I would venture to say that my egg cravings has been quelled by the
high protein
test of IP6. That is still ongoing.

Which showed signs of slowing about three weeks back.

I was eating a lot of wild duck and noticed a spread of the old
seasonal spots
and a few new ones behind the ankles.
Last year at this time I blamed the spread on the wet weather (13" in
Jan/feb alone)
this year has been nearly dry and the sun is warm enough to venture out
in to.

So the variables are high and i'm dry.

randall... all hung out or just lucky? Dha or proper digestion?

>
> J.

Brad_Chad

2006-02-25, 8:14 pm

My doctor says that he has had remarkable results with 100% of his
patients that have psoriasis, by finding their hidden (delayed) food
sensitivities, and improving their diet.

Brad_Chad

Fizziwig2

2006-02-25, 8:14 pm

"Brad_Chad" <Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1138950097.619398.61230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> My doctor says that he has had remarkable results with 100% of his
> patients that have psoriasis, by finding their hidden (delayed) food
> sensitivities, and improving their diet.
>
> Brad_Chad

My latest doctor is lukewarm about an allergy test being of any use, (too
many allergies and me being a hypochondriac), another woman doctor in the
practice recommended pre and probiotics as one of her psoriatic friends used
them. I "know" that I am allergic to gluten and monosodium glutamate only
because of their immediate effects that I feel and see.

I am now trying out Muller's Omega 3, pre and probiotic yogurts with little
noticeable success at present. They taste delicious but maybe I need more
"belief".

When I was a patient in hospital I cleared in three weeks (eminent
consultant). That was possibly the "placebo" effect working.

Skeats

JXStern

2006-02-25, 8:14 pm

On 2 Feb 2006 23:01:37 -0800, "Brad_Chad" <Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>My doctor says that he has had remarkable results with 100% of his
>patients that have psoriasis, by finding their hidden (delayed) food
>sensitivities, and improving their diet.

Conventional medicine still says that within normal bounds diet has
basically no effect on psoriasis. This is clearly wrong. Various
simple dietary changes and nutritional supplements are sworn to help
by many (but not all!) psoriasis patients. This is still just
anecdotal and not proof, except for my own experiences, of course!

But except in rare cases (psoriasis having huge variability), I doubt
that diet alone is a cause or a cure for psoriasis. I doubt if it's
even a matter of food allergies at all. Some foods directly feed
inflammatory processes if they are already there triggered by the
disease. Limiting those, reduces inflammation. A few foods might
even feed processes that *reduce* inflammation. The omega-3s might do
that, and further balance omega-6 metabolism.

When you have severe case of psoriasis, you might burn up a lot of one
nutrient or another and need to offset it in the diet.

And there have long been theories about flora and fauna and gut
permiability and liver and other stuff, that might be involved in
psoriasis and would likely respond to various dietary interventions.
But, note that none of these are really food "allergies". Allergy
involves one particular part of the immune system, which does not seem
to be involved in psoriasis, and anyway, if you have an allergic
problem the first line of defense are anthistamine drugs, which have
only rare and minor effects on psoriasis.

So, I don't doubt that with a little systematic experimentation one
can give help to a lot of people with psoriasis, and I wish there
would be some solid science and documentation on the matter.

If you want so suggest some specific cases or have any numbers, how
many were "allergic" to what, and what they were given instead, that
would be fine, and we might make some sense of it.

J.

Brad_Chad

2006-02-25, 8:15 pm

JXStern wrote:
> On 2 Feb 2006 23:01:37 -0800, "Brad_Chad" <Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Conventional medicine still says that within normal bounds diet has
> basically no effect on psoriasis. This is clearly wrong. Various
> simple dietary changes and nutritional supplements are sworn to help
> by many (but not all!) psoriasis patients. This is still just
> anecdotal and not proof, except for my own experiences, of course!
>
> But except in rare cases (psoriasis having huge variability), I doubt
> that diet alone is a cause or a cure for psoriasis. I doubt if it's
> even a matter of food allergies at all. Some foods directly feed
> inflammatory processes if they are already there triggered by the
> disease. Limiting those, reduces inflammation. A few foods might
> even feed processes that *reduce* inflammation. The omega-3s might do
> that, and further balance omega-6 metabolism.
>
> When you have severe case of psoriasis, you might burn up a lot of one
> nutrient or another and need to offset it in the diet.
>
> And there have long been theories about flora and fauna and gut
> permiability and liver and other stuff, that might be involved in
> psoriasis and would likely respond to various dietary interventions.
> But, note that none of these are really food "allergies". Allergy
> involves one particular part of the immune system, which does not seem
> to be involved in psoriasis, and anyway, if you have an allergic
> problem the first line of defense are anthistamine drugs, which have
> only rare and minor effects on psoriasis.
>
> So, I don't doubt that with a little systematic experimentation one
> can give help to a lot of people with psoriasis, and I wish there
> would be some solid science and documentation on the matter.
>
> If you want so suggest some specific cases or have any numbers, how
> many were "allergic" to what, and what they were given instead, that
> would be fine, and we might make some sense of it.
>
> J.

The pharmaceutical industry, and the processed foods industry, will
do everything to stifle large scale research on anything that involves
making people well without medication. If people knew about their
hidden food sensitivities, they wouldn't visit McDonald's as much. The
"people" need to spread the word among themselves. 200 years ago, it
was anectdotal that citrus fruit was good for scurvy. Just because it's
not proven in a lab doesn't mean it's not true, besides I'm talking
about food, not drugs. It's safe. I have helped people get rid of
several health problems in one shot, by finding their hidden food
sensitivities.

Brad_Chad