Migraine support - ongoing migraine

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ongoing migraine

Dave-tx

2005-01-12, 7:10 pm

Hi all - I've had migraines for almost 30 years now, but they've always
been single-day incidents. Currently, I take Maxalt or Zomig, and that
ends the episode.

Right now, I'm on day 5 of a doozy. Both prescriptions push the migraine
away for 5 or 6 hours, but it comes back just as strong. My doctor
prescribed me some Tylenol 3 to go along with the Maxalt and/or Zomig,
but it hasn't made any difference.

I'm 5 months since my last cup of coffee, and don't eat/drink anything
with caffeine, so I know that's not the cause. Nitrites are a big
trigger of mine, so I usually avoid them. My wife and I bought a
honey baked ham (containing sodium nitrite), which I ended up eating
most of - just finished it last week, perhaps a day or two before
the headache started.

Is it possible that the *lack* of sodium nitrite in my system is
what has triggered this migraine? I didn't have any problems while
I was eating the ham, only after it was all gone. The amount of ham
that I ate over the two week span might account for the length and
severity of this episode.

If it's not the ham, then I'm at a complete loss as to why I've got
this, and why it's gone on so long. I'll be going back to the doctor
on Monday if it hasn't subsided by then - but to be honest, I don't
know what else can be done, other than run some tests for something
"else".

Any suggestions or advice?

Thanks from a long-time lurker,
Dave

kadee-did

2005-01-12, 10:07 pm

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:48:58 -0600, Dave-tx
<df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all - I've had migraines for almost 30 years now, but they've always
>been single-day incidents. Currently, I take Maxalt or Zomig, and that
>ends the episode.
>
>Right now, I'm on day 5 of a doozy. Both prescriptions push the migraine
>away for 5 or 6 hours, but it comes back just as strong. My doctor
>prescribed me some Tylenol 3 to go along with the Maxalt and/or Zomig,
>but it hasn't made any difference.
>

Tylenol 3 never did anything for any pain I have had. I was prescribed
it after surgery and it only made me nauseous and dizzy and made no
difference to the pain level. I decided to not take it.

>If it's not the ham, then I'm at a complete loss as to why I've got
>this, and why it's gone on so long. I'll be going back to the doctor
>on Monday if it hasn't subsided by then - but to be honest, I don't
>know what else can be done, other than run some tests for something
>"else".

Are you affected by weather. Odours are my most common triggers but
weather is also a trigger. I always know when a storm is coming.

Kadee

chris and Lavonne

2005-01-12, 10:07 pm

"Dave-tx" <df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> Hi all - I've had migraines for almost 30 years now, but they've always
> been single-day incidents. Currently, I take Maxalt or Zomig, and that
> ends the episode.
>
> Right now, I'm on day 5 of a doozy. Both prescriptions push the migraine
> away for 5 or 6 hours, but it comes back just as strong. My doctor
> prescribed me some Tylenol 3 to go along with the Maxalt and/or Zomig,
> but it hasn't made any difference.
>
> I'm 5 months since my last cup of coffee, and don't eat/drink anything
> with caffeine, so I know that's not the cause. Nitrites are a big
> trigger of mine, so I usually avoid them. My wife and I bought a
> honey baked ham (containing sodium nitrite), which I ended up eating
> most of - just finished it last week, perhaps a day or two before
> the headache started.
>
> Is it possible that the *lack* of sodium nitrite in my system is
> what has triggered this migraine? I didn't have any problems while
> I was eating the ham, only after it was all gone. The amount of ham
> that I ate over the two week span might account for the length and
> severity of this episode.
>
> If it's not the ham, then I'm at a complete loss as to why I've got
> this, and why it's gone on so long. I'll be going back to the doctor
> on Monday if it hasn't subsided by then - but to be honest, I don't
> know what else can be done, other than run some tests for something
> "else".
>
> Any suggestions or advice?
>
> Thanks from a long-time lurker,
> Dave

Howdy, Davey-Lurky!

I'm sorry you are in so much pain.....

When a food product triggers my pain increase(usually eaten for supper,) it
usually starts the next day and lasts for 3 days, with the first two being
severe. Certain brand hot dogs, au jus (sp?) from a prime rib at a specific
restaurant, processed ham in a can, sometimes fish sticks, tuna, and others
can do it. That pain is usually a "pound"er, which mine usually don't
pound. However, if i somehow end up ingesting some type of sugar
substitute, i get a 3-5 day one that is....well, linear and
piercing....often sets in my right eye or in the eyebrow.

You may want to ask your doctor if you may be a candidate for a pain shot.
This would be a rare circumstance and you'd only want to ask if you see no
end in sight for the pain, and the pain is debilitating.

I only say this because you've already made an appt. and have tried the
T3's....You sound like a responsible patient.

Please, let us know how your pain is going and what you've done about it....

Deep peace,
Lavon

ZombyWoof

2005-01-13, 11:10 am

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:48:58 -0600, Dave-tx
<df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:

>Hi all - I've had migraines for almost 30 years now, but they've always
>been single-day incidents. Currently, I take Maxalt or Zomig, and that
>ends the episode.
>
>Right now, I'm on day 5 of a doozy. Both prescriptions push the migraine
>away for 5 or 6 hours, but it comes back just as strong. My doctor
>prescribed me some Tylenol 3 to go along with the Maxalt and/or Zomig,
>but it hasn't made any difference.
>
>I'm 5 months since my last cup of coffee, and don't eat/drink anything
>with caffeine, so I know that's not the cause. Nitrites are a big
>trigger of mine, so I usually avoid them. My wife and I bought a
>honey baked ham (containing sodium nitrite), which I ended up eating
>most of - just finished it last week, perhaps a day or two before
>the headache started.
>
>Is it possible that the *lack* of sodium nitrite in my system is
>what has triggered this migraine? I didn't have any problems while
>I was eating the ham, only after it was all gone. The amount of ham
>that I ate over the two week span might account for the length and
>severity of this episode.
>
>If it's not the ham, then I'm at a complete loss as to why I've got
>this, and why it's gone on so long. I'll be going back to the doctor
>on Monday if it hasn't subsided by then - but to be honest, I don't
>know what else can be done, other than run some tests for something
>"else".
>
>Any suggestions or advice?
>
>Thanks from a long-time lurker,
>Dave
>
My suggestion is that you get someone to drive you to your Dr and ask
him to give you a shot of Meperidine HCl mixed with some Phengan and a
steroid I can't remember the name of mixed together. That usually
will kill a multi-day one dead in it's tracks, but you need to have
the time to sleep it off.

See http://www.migraines.org/treatment/pronrcin.htm for more info.

Dave-tx

2005-01-14, 11:10 am

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:43 -0500, ZombyWoof <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:48:58 -0600, Dave-tx
><df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
> My suggestion is that you get someone to drive you to your Dr and ask
> him to give you a shot of Meperidine HCl mixed with some Phengan and a
> steroid I can't remember the name of mixed together. That usually
> will kill a multi-day one dead in it's tracks, but you need to have
> the time to sleep it off.
>
> See http://www.migraines.org/treatment/pronrcin.htm for more info.

Thanks - I'll take this info with me when I see him. If I get it, I'll
report the results here.

-Dave

Dave-tx

2005-01-14, 11:10 am

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:55:22 GMT, chris and Lavonne <cllmd@pacbell.net> wrote:
> "Dave-tx" <df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> Howdy, Davey-Lurky!
>
> I'm sorry you are in so much pain.....
>
> When a food product triggers my pain increase(usually eaten for supper,) it
> usually starts the next day and lasts for 3 days, with the first two being
> severe. Certain brand hot dogs, au jus (sp?) from a prime rib at a specific
> restaurant, processed ham in a can, sometimes fish sticks, tuna, and others
> can do it. That pain is usually a "pound"er, which mine usually don't
> pound. However, if i somehow end up ingesting some type of sugar
> substitute, i get a 3-5 day one that is....well, linear and
> piercing....often sets in my right eye or in the eyebrow.
>
> You may want to ask your doctor if you may be a candidate for a pain shot.
> This would be a rare circumstance and you'd only want to ask if you see no
> end in sight for the pain, and the pain is debilitating.
>
> I only say this because you've already made an appt. and have tried the
> T3's....You sound like a responsible patient.
>
> Please, let us know how your pain is going and what you've done about it....
>

Thanks for the kind thoughts - it's been a damn tough week. Yesterday was
the worst - in addition to the headache being the worst it's been all week,
I had to sit through a seven hour meeting (and even then, I left early!). Oh,
the agony! ;-)

I've still got it today, but right now it's subsided, as I've taken my
latest pain concoction - one Maxalt, two Advil, and two Excedrin. It'll
be back by mid-morning, I suspect, but that'll give me enough time to get
stuff done in the office and feel like I've been at least somewhat productive
for the day. Glad it's Friday, though!

-Dave

Dave-tx

2005-01-14, 11:10 am

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:19:50 -0500, kadee-did <kadee@inorbit.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:48:58 -0600, Dave-tx
><df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Tylenol 3 never did anything for any pain I have had. I was prescribed
> it after surgery and it only made me nauseous and dizzy and made no
> difference to the pain level. I decided to not take it.

Same here - the T3 has done absolutely nothing for me, but has at least
helped me get to sleep.

>
>
>
> Are you affected by weather. Odours are my most common triggers but
> weather is also a trigger. I always know when a storm is coming.
>

I've never noticed a correlation with weather, but the one thing
that's heavy in Austin right now is the mountain cedar pollen. It
gives me itchy eyes and a runny nose, but I've never noticed it to
relate to migraine in any repeatable way.

TGIF, in any case. I'm going to do a lot of sleeping and watching
football this weekend.

-Dave

chris and Lavonne

2005-01-14, 7:12 pm

"Dave-tx" <df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:55:22 GMT, chris and Lavonne <cllmd@pacbell.net>
wrote:
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>
> Thanks for the kind thoughts - it's been a damn tough week. Yesterday was
> the worst - in addition to the headache being the worst it's been all
week,
> I had to sit through a seven hour meeting (and even then, I left early!).
Oh,
> the agony! ;-)
>
> I've still got it today, but right now it's subsided, as I've taken my
> latest pain concoction - one Maxalt, two Advil, and two Excedrin. It'll
> be back by mid-morning, I suspect, but that'll give me enough time to get
> stuff done in the office and feel like I've been at least somewhat
productive
> for the day. Glad it's Friday, though!
>
> -Dave
>

Hey, guys! Sounds like Dave here has a good sense of humor....i vote we
keep him!

Hey, Dave! Happy Friday! Hope the wknd affords you some relief.

Just wanted to tell you, some folks get relief from Nyquil or Benedryl. I
know, i know, but several have mentioned it in years past.

Even for well people, that meeting sounds like torture :-),
(lil' chocolate on the chin!)

deep peace,
Lavon

friendlytxtech

2005-01-15, 2:12 am

Dave, I moved up here to Colorado just about two years ago from Dallas. I
remember how much those trees bothered me and I struggled with my allergies.
Now I fight the new trees here by the rocky mountains.

I use the T3 for the same thing...to sleep during a migraine. It doesn't
stop pain as much as it puts me to sleep if I take two of them. I usually
have to take Vicodin during the day and that does help with the pain...if
I'm careful not to take too much or I get sick.

Michelle

"Dave-tx" <df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrncufj08.stm.df_usenetREMOVE@localhost.localdomain...
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:19:50 -0500, kadee-did <kadee@inorbit.com> wrote:
>
> Same here - the T3 has done absolutely nothing for me, but has at least
> helped me get to sleep.
>
>
> I've never noticed a correlation with weather, but the one thing
> that's heavy in Austin right now is the mountain cedar pollen. It
> gives me itchy eyes and a runny nose, but I've never noticed it to
> relate to migraine in any repeatable way.
>
> TGIF, in any case. I'm going to do a lot of sleeping and watching
> football this weekend.
>
> -Dave

friendlytxtech

2005-01-15, 2:12 am

I think there are some things that should never be done in business...8 am
meetings on any days, but Mondays are torture. No one should have meetings
that last longer than an hour, and no meetings beyond 2:00 on Friday
afternoons when people start the downward slide. One would wonder then,
when would I meet...after 10:00 in the morning, but done by noon at the
latest. 2-4 any day but Friday. That leaves more than enough time to bore
people to death ;-)

Michelle

"chris and Lavonne" <cllmd@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave-tx" <df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> wrote:
> migraine
> it
> being
> specific
> others
> shot.
> no
> it....
> week,
> Oh,
> productive
>
> Hey, guys! Sounds like Dave here has a good sense of humor....i vote we
> keep him!
>
> Hey, Dave! Happy Friday! Hope the wknd affords you some relief.
>
> Just wanted to tell you, some folks get relief from Nyquil or Benedryl. I
> know, i know, but several have mentioned it in years past.
>
> Even for well people, that meeting sounds like torture :-),
> (lil' chocolate on the chin!)
>
> deep peace,
> Lavon
>
>

ZombyWoof

2005-01-15, 2:12 am

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:41:28 -0600, Dave-tx
<df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:

>On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:19:50 -0500, kadee-did <kadee@inorbit.com> wrote:
>
>Same here - the T3 has done absolutely nothing for me, but has at least
>helped me get to sleep.
>
>
>I've never noticed a correlation with weather, but the one thing
>that's heavy in Austin right now is the mountain cedar pollen. It
>gives me itchy eyes and a runny nose, but I've never noticed it to
>relate to migraine in any repeatable way.
>
>TGIF, in any case. I'm going to do a lot of sleeping and watching
>football this weekend.
>
>-Dave
>
I still think you should head over to the ER and drop-em for a shot.
It is really the only way I know of to break a viscous cycle migraine.

kadee-did

2005-01-15, 2:12 am

ZombyWoof

2005-01-15, 11:09 am

Liz Spindola

2005-01-15, 7:09 pm

I second that! Motion carried?

Liz

"chris and Lavonne" <cllmd@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave-tx" <df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> wrote:
> migraine
> it
> being
> specific
> others
> shot.
> no
> it....
> week,
> Oh,
> productive
>
> Hey, guys! Sounds like Dave here has a good sense of humor....i vote we
> keep him!
>
> Hey, Dave! Happy Friday! Hope the wknd affords you some relief.
>
> Just wanted to tell you, some folks get relief from Nyquil or Benedryl. I
> know, i know, but several have mentioned it in years past.
>
> Even for well people, that meeting sounds like torture :-),
> (lil' chocolate on the chin!)
>
> deep peace,
> Lavon
>
>

friendlytxtech

2005-01-17, 2:08 am

I'm not waiting on a quorum...I move to approve the motion...even if it was
my own ;-)

Michelle

"Liz Spindola" <liz.myhatspindola@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I second that! Motion carried?
>
> Liz
>
> "chris and Lavonne" <cllmd@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:1QUFd.11370$5R.5925@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>
>

Dave-tx

2005-01-19, 2:10 am

Dave-tx

2005-01-19, 2:10 am

Dave-tx

2005-01-19, 2:10 am

Dave-tx

2005-01-28, 8:01 am

Thanks for the friendly welcome, sorry I haven't been around to
receive it - took a litle ski trip to Utah, and have been trying to
catch up on work ever since. Stupid headache sure knows great
timing - the next four months will probably be the busiest of
my career so far. Well, as Roy Harper says, "drugs for everybody".
Sigh.

See other post for update...blah!

-Dave

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:34:43 -0700, friendlytxtech <friendlytxtech@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm not waiting on a quorum...I move to approve the motion...even if it was
> my own ;-)
>
> Michelle
>
> "Liz Spindola" <liz.myhatspindola@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:uXcGd.484$Dz2.89@trndny09...
>
>

Dave-tx

2005-01-28, 8:01 am

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:44:01 -0500, ZombyWoof <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:41:28 -0600, Dave-tx
><df_usenetREMOVE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
> I still think you should head over to the ER and drop-em for a shot.
> It is really the only way I know of to break a viscous cycle migraine.

Latest update:

Still having problems, but the intensity is WAY down. I'm able to function
normally, just not very happily. But I'll take that for now. Saw
a neurologist for the first time, and had an MRI on the noggin. Haven't
seen results of the MRI yet. Haven't been to the ER for any treatment, but have
tried several prescriptions.

Maxalt: Been on this for years, but BCBS no longer covers it, so I won't
be taking it much longer. In this particular case, it's effective for about 4
hours, then the headache returns.

Zomig: My replacement for Maxalt. Same situation as above, it's currently good
for only a few hours.

Relpax: Tried samples of this for the first time. Took a long time to
take effect, but provided the longest relief of anything I've taken during the
past several weeks.

Migranol (nose spray): Tried sample of this. Had no effect at all. Could
be my fault - I've never been good at nose sprays, I hate the feeling of them.
Also have nasal allergies right now, so the absorption may not have been
ideal.

T3: Tried this (and a barbituate that I can't recall right now) for a few
days, and it had absolutely no effect on me. Maybe helped me sleep, but I really
didn't have too much trouble sleeping anyway. Quit taking this, as I didn't need
any dependancy issues creeping in.

Neurologist discussed admitting me in to the hospital for IV ergotamine
treatment, but we haven't done that yet. That's a last resort, I hope. I
feel I've made progress, and since I don't have to take time off work anymore,
I can cope. I'm definately sick and tired of it, but at least I'm not
cranky all the time anymore.

Thanks for reading (or listening, if you have someone reading usenet aloud to you).

Have a nice weekend - I plan to. I'm going to have a big cinnamon roll.
-Dave