Attention deficit support - Yet, Another Possible Cause For ADHD- Any thing left?

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Yet, Another Possible Cause For ADHD- Any thing left?

Jan Drew

2006-03-23, 6:27 pm

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/518962/

Extreme Personality Poses Risk of ADHD, Conduct Disorder

Excerpts:
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Children with personalities marked by aggressiveness, mood swings, a sense
of alienation and a need for excitement may be at greater risk for attention
deficit hyperactivity disorder or conduct disorder.

Newswise - Children with personalities marked by aggressiveness, mood
swings, a sense of alienation and a need for excitement may be at greater
risk for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder or conduct disorder,
according to a new Florida State university study.

The study, published in the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry, is
the first to investigate personality trait patterns among children who have
ADHD, conduct disorder or a combination of both. It is important to learn
more about the co-occurrence of ADHD and conduct disorder because the
consequences are so severe, Taylor said.

Raving Loonie

2006-03-24, 1:26 am

Jan Drew wrote:
[snip]

Re: Yet, Another Possible Cause For ADHD- Any thing left?

No.

I'm all ' right ', Jan.

How about you?

Cordially,

RL

Twittering One

2006-03-24, 11:27 am

That is the lousiest conclusion I have seen
on the topic in 50 years of literature.

I hope the actual study is not as
transparently idiotic.

cathyb

2006-03-24, 11:27 am

Twittering One wrote:
> That is the lousiest conclusion I have seen
> on the topic in 50 years of literature.
>
> I hope the actual study is not as
> transparently idiotic.

I don't know much about ADHD, so feel free to correct me.

Did this study, as reported here, say that kids who have ADHD are more
likely to have ADHD?

Cheers,

Cathy

Twittering One

2006-03-24, 11:27 am

I don't know much about ADHD, so feel free to correct me.

Did this study, as reported here, say that kids who have ADHD are more
likely to have ADHD?

Cheers,
Cathy

No, it says, according to this summary, that
BAD kids get ADHD, or that they have Personality Disorders,
and their excessive behavior leads them down
a road to ruin.

Sort of like the way Pot leads to Heroin, etc.

cathyb

2006-03-24, 11:27 am

Twittering One wrote:
> I don't know much about ADHD, so feel free to correct me.
>
> Did this study, as reported here, say that kids who have ADHD are more
> likely to have ADHD?
>
> Cheers,
> Cathy
>
> No, it says, according to this summary, that
> BAD kids get ADHD, or that they have Personality Disorders,
> and their excessive behavior leads them down
> a road to ruin.
>
> Sort of like the way Pot leads to Heroin, etc.

But, but, but...

Raving Loonie

2006-03-24, 11:27 am

cathyb wrote:
> Twittering One wrote:
<grin>

Joke Question:
A little moron and a big moron were standing on a roof. The bigger
moron falls off and kills himself. Why?

Answer: The ' little mor on ', individual
.... was further away from the edge of the roof.

Cordially,

RL
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> But, but, but...

Jan Drew

2006-03-25, 1:25 am

"Twittering One" <twitteringone@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1143185840.560864.114630@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> That is the lousiest conclusion I have seen
> on the topic in 50 years of literature.
>
> I hope the actual study is not as
> transparently idiotic.

I agree 100%. They just keep coming up with more ways to sell more ADHD
drugs. Look at who is doing the studies.

cathyb

2006-03-25, 1:25 am

Twittering One

2006-03-25, 1:25 am

Your point was?
~ kb

Your AlmaMater?

Twittering One

2006-03-25, 1:25 am

Farther.

cathyb

2006-03-25, 1:25 am

Twittering One wrote:
> Your point was?
> ~ kb
>
> Your AlmaMater?

No. And I, too, find their conclusions laughable.

Just pointing out that Jan finds them laughable for the wrong reasons.

Twittering One

2006-03-25, 1:25 am

"Confuse not
Result avec Collusion."
~ AE

Jan Drew

2006-03-25, 1:25 am

"Twittering One" <twitteringfolly@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1143267866.490474.137500@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Your point was?
> ~ kb

The same as her usual point.

To harass me.

My point was:

Psychology and Psychiatry

The very same ones who are the pushers of ADHD drugs.

cathyb

2006-03-25, 11:25 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Twittering One" <twitteringfolly@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1143267866.490474.137500@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> The same as her usual point.
>
> To harass me.
>
> My point was:
>
> Psychology and Psychiatry
>
> The very same ones who are the pushers of ADHD drugs.

Gosh. Jan claims that the Journal of Psychology and Psychiatry carried
out the research?

LOL.

Psychologists carried out the research, Jan. They have no vested
interest in the prescription of ADHD drugs. As you know.

Mark Probert

2006-03-25, 11:25 am

Jan Drew

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

"Mark Probert" Lied for the third time today
> Jan Drew wrote:
>
> Scientists at the NIH, NIMH and NIDA.
>
> Imagine that, intelligent people who do not agree with Jan.
>
>

Jan Drew

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

"cathyb" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:1143273083.863486.29870@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Jan Drew wrote:
>
> Gosh. Jan claims that the Journal of Psychology and Psychiatry carried
> out the research?
>
> LOL.

cathy posted as usual , nothing but to belittle, as is her habit.

<snip>

Mark Probert

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Mark Probert" Lied for the third time today

Keep counting, dimwit. Just answer one question:

When you do this counting bit, do you use your fingers or toes?

>
>

Rich

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w0jVf.8600$tN3.6876@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "Mark Probert" Lied for the third time today

What's the lie? That NIH, NIMH, and NIDA have intelligent people, or that
they do not agree with Jan?

>
>

Jan Drew

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

"Rich" <joshew@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4RjVf.14569$%d.11753@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:w0jVf.8600$tN3.6876@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>
> What's the lie?

YOU refuse to see Mark's lies. In FACT, you lie for him.

In this case, NONE of the below did the study in this thread.

That NIH, NIMH, and NIDA have intelligent people, or that
> they do not agree with Jan?
>
>
>
>
>
>

C A III A

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

Using Jan's techniques:

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:LWjVf.8621
>
> YOU [snip] see [snip] FACT [snip]. In this [snip]study [snip]

Thank you Jan for showing me the beautiful art of snipping.

Jan Drew

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

"C A III A" <non@non.non> wrote in message
news:6ikVf.26594$jf2.3087@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Using Jan's techniques:
>
>
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:LWjVf.8621
>
> Thank you Jan for showing me the beautiful art of snipping.

I snip lies and diversion.

What you snipped is a *gang* member's lie.

Dumber than a box of rocks # 2, you don't know you keep proving yourself.

GUTLESS CHICKEN to post under your real name.

Rich" <joshew@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4RjVf.14569$%d.11753@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:w0jVf.8600$tN3.6876@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>
> What's the lie?

YOU refuse to see Mark's lies. In FACT, you lie for him.

In this case, NONE of the below did the study in this thread.

C A III A

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "C A III A" <non@non.non> wrote in message
> news:6ikVf.26594$jf2.3087@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
> I snip lies and diversion.
>
> What you snipped is a *gang* member's lie.
>
> Dumber than a box of rocks # 2, you don't know you keep proving yourself.
>
> GUTLESS CHICKEN to post under your real name.
>

Jan's farts are getting weaker.

Jan Drew

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

"C A III A" <non@non.non> wrote in message
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>
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:vUmVf.8777$tN3.7215@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>
> Jan's farts are getting weaker.

Please excuse this chicken for wasting bandwidth.

C A III A

2006-03-26, 12:34 am

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:lZmVf.8779$tN3.6863@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "C A III A" <non@non.non> wrote in message
> news:iWmVf.26964$jf2.1590@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
> Please excuse this chicken for wasting bandwidth.

I am excused, farty Jan.

Peter Bowditch

2006-03-26, 10:25 am

Mark Probert <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:

>Jan Drew wrote:
>
>Scientists at the NIH, NIMH and NIDA.
>
>Imagine that, intelligent people who do not agree with Jan.
>

Isn't that a tautology?
--
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Jeff

2006-03-26, 10:25 am

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jkEUf.62645$dW3.58503@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/518962/
>
> Extreme Personality Poses Risk of ADHD, Conduct Disorder
>
> Excerpts:
> Description
>
> Children with personalities marked by aggressiveness, mood swings, a sense
> of alienation and a need for excitement may be at greater risk for
> attention deficit hyperactivity disorder or conduct disorder.

Doh! You ought to read some of the scientific literature on ADHD. You would
know that this is not news. Instead, you would know that these are common
traits of people with ADHD.

We have talked about how kids with ADHD have more risk-taking behaviors and
a greater sense for excitement, as reflected in their greater use of drugs
in this forum, as well.

> Newswise - Children with personalities marked by aggressiveness, mood
> swings, a sense of alienation and a need for excitement may be at greater
> risk for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder or conduct disorder,
> according to a new Florida State university study.
>
> The study, published in the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry, is
> the first to investigate personality trait patterns among children who
> have ADHD, conduct disorder or a combination of both. It is important to
> learn more about the co-occurrence of ADHD and conduct disorder because
> the consequences are so severe, Taylor said.

Personality traits and ADHD has been studied before. Here is one example:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...0&dopt=Citation

If you search scholar.google.com with the words ADHD and personality, you
will find many more.

Jeff

Mark Probert

2006-03-26, 10:25 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "C A III A" <non@non.non> wrote in message
> news:6ikVf.26594$jf2.3087@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
> I snip lies and diversion.
>
> What you snipped is a *gang* member's lie.
>
> Dumber than a box of rocks # 2, you don't know you keep proving yourself.
>
> GUTLESS CHICKEN to post under your real name.

Why Jan? Why does someone have to post under their real name? So you and
your ilk can contact their employer? Call them on the phone? File a
complaint with their ISP? Send unsolicited emails to their spouse who is
not involved in Usenet?

YOUR problem, which is the same problem that anyone who does that has,
is that you are incapable of dealing with issues and conducting an
intelligent conversation. Thus, you make it about the person, rather
than the issues.

Mark Probert

2006-03-26, 10:25 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "C A III A" <non@non.non> wrote in message
> news:iWmVf.26964$jf2.1590@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
> Please excuse this chicken for wasting bandwidth.

Jan, you are excused for wasting bandwidth.

Mark Probert

2006-03-26, 10:25 am

Peter Bowditch wrote:
> Mark Probert <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
>
>
> Isn't that a tautology?

By Jove, it is!

Mark Probert

2006-03-26, 10:25 am

Jeff wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:jkEUf.62645$dW3.58503@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>
> Doh! You ought to read some of the scientific literature on ADHD. You would
> know that this is not news. Instead, you would know that these are common
> traits of people with ADHD.
>
> We have talked about how kids with ADHD have more risk-taking behaviors and
> a greater sense for excitement, as reflected in their greater use of drugs
> in this forum, as well.
>
>
> Personality traits and ADHD has been studied before. Here is one example:
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...0&dopt=Citation
>
> If you search scholar.google.com with the words ADHD and personality, you
> will find many more.

Jeff, Jan calls Google Scholar a "trick" because it eliminates sales
hype sites and provides only facts that refute her.

Jan Drew

2006-03-27, 12:25 am

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote
> Jan Drew wrote:

I see fake the vow of peace didn't last long.

March 21: 9:16 am

Rod, I have tried to end the feud/war/what-have-you with Ilena since she
returned to the newsgroups. If you, and Jan, want to dredge up ancient
history, feel free. I do not play that game anymore.

If you continue to post with the same attitude, I will correctly assume
that you, too, in addition to Jan, want the war to continue.

I do not.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Why Jan? Why does someone have to post under their real name? So you and
>your ilk can contact their employer? Call them on the phone? File a
>complaint with their ISP? Send unsolicited emails to their spouse who is
>not involved in Usenet?

>YOUR problem, which is the same problem that anyone who does that has, is
>that you are incapable of dealing with issues and conducting an intelligent
>conversation. Thus, you make it about the person, rather than the issues.

Back to the issues:

Rich" <jos...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message

news:4RjVf.14569$%d.11753@tornado.socal.rr.com...

> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:w0jVf.8600$tN3.6876@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...

[vbcol=seagreen]
> What's the lie?

YOU refuse to see Mark's lies. In FACT, you lie for him.

In this case, NONE of the below did the study in this thread.

>Scientists at the NIH, NIMH and NIDA.

Jan Drew

2006-03-27, 12:25 am

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:xqyVf.26$8t7.21@fe11.lga...
> Jan Drew wrote:
>
> Jan, you are excused for wasting bandwidth.

http://www.torah.org/learning/pirke...hapter1-6b.html

G-d's Justice System

When we judge others, we are setting our own personal justice system. If I
am constantly finding fault and criticizing others, I send a message to G-d.
Shortcomings should be noticed and highlighted; there's no room for mercy
and tolerance. And G-d allows us to fashion the very justice system with
which He views us. If we see only the bad in others, we bring upon ourselves
the very judgment we, in our minds, visit upon others daily.

Raving Loonie

2006-03-27, 10:26 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/518962/
>
> Extreme Personality Poses Risk of ADHD, Conduct Disorder
http://tinyurl.com/e9m6h

Mark Probert

2006-03-27, 10:26 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:xqyVf.26$8t7.21@fe11.lga...
>
> http://www.torah.org/learning/pirke...hapter1-6b.html
>
> G-d's Justice System
>
> When we judge others, we are setting our own personal justice system. If I
> am constantly finding fault and criticizing others, I send a message to G-d.
> Shortcomings should be noticed and highlighted; there's no room for mercy
> and tolerance. And G-d allows us to fashion the very justice system with
> which He views us. If we see only the bad in others, we bring upon ourselves
> the very judgment we, in our minds, visit upon others daily.
>
>

Agreed. I see some good in you. In fact, just the other day I described
you as an excellent example.

However, YOU seem to see only bad in me.

I wonder what you plan to do about that.

Jan Drew

2006-03-28, 12:27 am

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote[vbcol=seagreen]
> Jan Drew wrote:

[ ]

YOUR problem, which is the same problem that anyone who does that has,
is that you are incapable of dealing with issues and conducting an
intelligent conversation. Thus, you make it about the person, rather
than the issues.

Keep counting, dimwit. Just answer one question:

When you do this counting bit, do you use your fingers or toes?

No, stupid

Asswipe

Jan Drew

2006-03-28, 12:27 am

[vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> However, that game don't play with anyone.
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
>
>

Mark Probert

2006-03-28, 10:25 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote
>
> [ ]
>
> YOUR problem, which is the same problem that anyone who does that has,
> is that you are incapable of dealing with issues and conducting an
> intelligent conversation. Thus, you make it about the person, rather
> than the issues.
>
>
> Keep counting, dimwit. Just answer one question:
>
>
> When you do this counting bit, do you use your fingers or toes?
>
> No, stupid
>
> Asswipe

Jan, obviously you do not like receiving what you have been shoveling.

Stop shoveling, stop receiving. It is that simple.

Mark Probert

2006-03-28, 10:25 am

Jan Drew wrote:

ME: More deceptive snipping by Jan.
[vbcol=seagreen]

Restored:

Please post the URL of any message of mine where I attacked Ms.
Rosenthal (Jeopardy theme song in background)....

The vow of peace is, and will remain, directed at her, and her alone.
YOU are not included.

And, I should point out that you responded above to words that are NOT mine.
[vbcol=seagreen]

Restored:
That is what I said in another post to Rod. I was pointing out, as I
pointed out to you, that dredging up old posts, etc. can only be
construed as wanting to bait me into responding in kind.
[vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]

AFAIAC, yes, you do. A post such as this, is *PRECISELY* what I discuss
above. My comments, below
[vbcol=seagreen]

restored:

Yes, those are my words to YOU, not Ms. Rosenthal. Why do you want to
know the identity of the person so badly? What nefarious plot will you
hatch? Why can't you deal with the issues, rather than trash the person?

Raving Loonie

2006-03-28, 10:25 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Twittering One" <twitteringone@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1143185840.560864.114630@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> I agree 100%. They just keep coming up with more ways to sell more ADHD
> drugs. Look at who is doing the studies.
No kidding :-> !

Global sales for all sleeping pills, called hypnotics, will top $5
billion in the next several years.

The number of adults aged 20-44 using sleeping pills doubled from 2000
to 2004, according to Medco Health Solutions, a managed care company.
Sleep problems are commonly reported in the elderly, but the increase
in spending on sleeping pills was highest in this period for 10-19 year
olds, possibly due to an association with medication for attention
deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). .....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060...ivationthegr...

Jan Drew

2006-03-29, 10:27 am

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:SKbWf.11$hz3.4@fe11.lga...
> Jan Drew wrote:
>
> Jan, obviously you do not like receiving what you have been shoveling.
>
> Stop shoveling, stop receiving. It is that simple.

YOU and YOU along are responsible for YOUR postings.

http://www.torah.org/learning/pirke...hapter1-6b.html

G-d's Justice System

When we judge others, we are setting our own personal justice system. If
I am constantly finding fault and criticizing others, I send a message to
G-d.
Shortcomings should be noticed and highlighted; there's no room for mercy
and tolerance. And G-d allows us to fashion the very justice system with
which He views us. If we see only the bad in others, we bring upon
ourselves
the very judgment we, in our minds, visit upon others daily.

http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/shiur.asp?id=338

In the next portion of the midrash, the sages teach that it is fitting for
people to speak in clean, appropriate language:"

The words of Hashem are pure'...In the Torah, God chose to write eight extra
words in order to avoid using terminology which was not 100% 'clean. In the
Book of Bereishit, for instance, Noach is told to choose for the ark from
among 'the pure cattle and from the cattle that is not pure...' [- instead
of referring to the latter group using the Hebrew term for ritually impure
beasts, "Tameh." ] In disqualifying the rabbit as a pure animal, the Torah
does not say that the impurity derives from the fact that the rabbit does
not have split hooves, [though this is true] but rather that the rabbit is
impure because it [only] chews its cud. (Vaykira 11)" The clear message of
the midrash: when unpleasant things are uttered, they must be expressed in
the cleanest, most honorable manner possible.

Jan Drew

2006-03-29, 10:27 am

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:eObWf.13$hz3.1@fe11.lga...
> Jan Drew wrote:
>
> ME: More deceptive snipping by Jan.

NO, Jan did NOT write that.

Thanks for proving you couldn't go today... without lying.
>

Jan Drew wrote NO such thing!

[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Restored:
>
> Please post the URL of any message of mine where I attacked Ms. Rosenthal
> (Jeopardy theme song in background)....

Diverson noted, won't work.
>
> The vow of peace is, and will remain, directed at her, and her alone. YOU
> are not included.
>
> And, I should point out that you responded above to words that are NOT
> mine.
>
>
> Restored:
> That is what I said in another post to Rod. I was pointing out, as I
> pointed out to you, that dredging up old posts, etc. can only be construed
> as wanting to bait me into responding in kind.
>
>
>
> AFAIAC, yes, you do. A post such as this, is *PRECISELY* what I discuss
> above. My comments, below
>

This IS dredging up ancient history.......

[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> restored:
>
> Yes, those are my words to YOU, not Ms. Rosenthal. Why do you want to know
> the identity of the person so badly? What nefarious plot will you hatch?
> Why can't you deal with the issues, rather than trash the person?

Diversion noted, won't work.

YOU dredged up ancient history.

Vashti

2006-03-29, 10:27 am

It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Jan Drew wrote:

> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:eObWf.13$hz3.1@fe11.lga...
>
> NO, Jan did NOT write that.

As everyone can tell by looking at the attribution lines and amount of
">" signs there are, Mark wrote that you snipped. If he had wanted to
pretend you wrote that he would have added a ">" which he didn't.

Hope this clarifies things for you,

Vashti

Mark Probert

2006-03-29, 10:27 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:SKbWf.11$hz3.4@fe11.lga...
>
> YOU and YOU along are responsible for YOUR postings.

YOU get what you sow.

Mark Probert

2006-03-29, 10:27 am

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:eObWf.13$hz3.1@fe11.lga...
>
> NO, Jan did NOT write that.

Right, idiot, that is why I typed "ME" in front of it. Your obsessive
compulsive need to argue is showing.

> Thanks for proving you couldn't go today... without lying.

Idiot.

>
> Jan Drew wrote NO such thing!

Complain to the person who said that. I did not.

>
> Diverson noted, won't work.

What diversion, idiot? I was very specific regarding my unilateral
ending of the flame war with Ms. Rosenthal. It applies solely to her. I
have not attacked her in any manner whatsoever since then.

Your feeble efforts to inflame the war have failed.

>
> This IS dredging up ancient history.......

YOU do it all the time, idiot. The fact is, you have a double standard
and that incident showed it for the world to see. YOU encourage stalking
by remaining silent.

>
> Diversion noted, won't work.

No diversion, idiot. Right on the money. YOU were bleating and braying
over some poster being anonymous, and I addressed your obsessive need to
dig up dirt on people.

> YOU dredged up ancient history.

Not at all. And, if it were, it merely follows your low standards.

Mark Probert

2006-03-29, 10:27 am

Vashti wrote:
> It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Jan Drew wrote:
>
>
> As everyone can tell by looking at the attribution lines and amount of
> ">" signs there are, Mark wrote that you snipped. If he had wanted to
> pretend you wrote that he would have added a ">" which he didn't.
>
> Hope this clarifies things for you,

I thought that typing "ME" in front would clue Jan into seeing that I
was acknowledging that I wrote it.

Sadly, monosyllabic words confuse her.

Jan Drew

2006-03-29, 5:21 pm

"Vashti" <vashti.nl@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:20060329095341.77e0c0b8@localhost.localdomain...
> It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Jan Drew wrote:
>
>
> As everyone can tell by looking at the attribution lines and amount of
> ">" signs there are, Mark wrote that you snipped. If he had wanted to
> pretend you wrote that he would have added a ">" which he didn't.
>
> Hope this clarifies things for you,
>
>
> Vashti

What it clarifies, is you trying to cover for Mark as usual.

And being a hypocrite.

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It wasn't a dark and stormy night when LadyLollipop wrote:

> "Vashti" <vashti...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:20050718131443.185500b7@linux.local...
[vbcol=seagreen]
[snip][vbcol=seagreen]

[vbcol=seagreen]

[vbcol=seagreen]

[vbcol=seagreen]

[vbcol=seagreen]
> NO, it's the absolute truth.

How long have you been posting to Usenet?

[vbcol=seagreen]

[vbcol=seagreen]

[vbcol=seagreen]

[vbcol=seagreen]
> See if you can come up with more lies Vashti. You very well know
> who wrote the above and it was not attributed to you.

You attributed it to me by pasting it with the amount of quote marks
">" to correspond with the attribution line(Vashti wrote in
message...) indicating which text I wrote. Learn how to quote and
attribute will you?

Oh, and I'm not a mind reader, ok?

Vashti

Jan Drew

2006-03-29, 5:21 pm

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:duwWf.756$FA6.228@fe12.lga...
> Jan Drew wrote:
>
> Right, idiot, that is why I typed "ME" in front of it. Your obsessive
> compulsive need to argue is showing.
>
>
>
> Idiot.
>
>
> Complain to the person who said that. I did not.
>
>
> What diversion, idiot? I was very specific regarding my unilateral ending
> of the flame war with Ms. Rosenthal. It applies solely to her. I have not
> attacked her in any manner whatsoever since then.
>
> Your feeble efforts to inflame the war have failed.
>
>
> YOU

IS not the subject.

YOU dredged up ancient history.

[snip]
>
>
> No diversion, idiot. Right on the money. YOU were bleating and braying
> over some poster being anonymous, and I addressed your obsessive need to
> dig up dirt on people.
>
>
> Not at all. And, if it were, it merely follows your low standards.

Poor Mark.
>
>
>

Vashti

2006-03-29, 5:21 pm

It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Jan Drew wrote:
[snip]
> What it clarifies, is you trying to cover for Mark as usual.

Oh, learn how to quote and attribute will you... please? And while
you're at it, how to read quotes and attributions too.

Vashti

Vashti

2006-03-29, 5:21 pm

It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Mark Probert wrote:

> Vashti wrote:
>
> I thought that typing "ME" in front would clue Jan into seeing that I
> was acknowledging that I wrote it.

If after all this time Jan still can't understand quote marks and
attribution lines, then typing "ME" in front of your text is not going
to help her. Maybe you need to actually type "MARK WRITES:"?

Vashti

Mark Probert

2006-03-29, 5:21 pm

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Vashti" <vashti.nl@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:20060329095341.77e0c0b8@localhost.localdomain...
>
> What it clarifies, is you trying to cover for Mark as usual.
>
> And being a hypocrite.

Vashti is pointing out the obvious that you do not understand.

Sad that.

Mark Probert

2006-03-29, 5:21 pm

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:duwWf.756$FA6.228@fe12.lga...

Jan had no comment and did not snip. Hmmm...
[vbcol=seagreen]

Another comment she let stand.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> IS not the subject.

You whined about something that YOU do. Clearly not ancient history.
Restored:

You do it all the time, idiot. The fact is, you have a double standard
and that incident showed it for the world to see. YOU encourage stalking
by remaining silent.
>
> YOU dredged up ancient history.
>
> [snip]
>
> Poor Mark.

Agreed. It is so easy to have higher standards than you.

Peter Bowditch

2006-03-30, 12:24 am

Vashti <vashti.nl@gmail.com> wrote:

>It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Mark Probert wrote:
>
>
>If after all this time Jan still can't understand quote marks and
>attribution lines, then typing "ME" in front of your text is not going
>to help her. Maybe you need to actually type "MARK WRITES:"?

But then he would be accused of lying because he typed, not wrote.
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