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Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
Subject: Re: Mental Illness screening of parents if kid has ADHD
called for.
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 05:02:16 -0800
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PSG resumed her stalking behaviors upon LMG making a personal
reference to LMG's post-secondary education and professional
credentials because PSG is unable to cope with the actual facts
of LMG's actual life, especially re: :LMG's educ. achievement
LMG has not only "refused to have anything to do with PSG for
at least a decade, but LMG has refused to have anything to do
with PSG for 32 years, except for rare occaisions, usually,
owing to PSG being in desperate straits" and in need of some
sort of help from LMG.
Apparently, PSG spent all this time fantazising about LMG
and her life.
Apparently, "PSG's mental illness is so severe PSG believes
all these fantasises she has about the long lost LMG".
Since "PSG's life long pathological envy" of LMG fuels all PSG's
fantasies regarding long lost LMG, her fantasies of LMG are
ones where LMG is less able, less competent, less intelligent,
less educated, less socially connected, less well traveled,
less attractive, less well heeled, less well off, and less
supported by family and friends, etc than LMG actually is.
LMG's posting a personal reference to her post-secondary
education and professional credentials was profoundly disturbing
to PSG's because the fact of LMG's education, credentials and
professional career negates PSG's fantasy that the long lost
LMG lived a lesser life than LMG did.
What makes LMG posting a reference to LMG's educ. achievements
and credentials, doubly disturbing to the mentally disturbed PSG
is the fact that LMG went and got herself an education is proof
positive PSG is LYING when PSG scapegoats and blames others cause
PSG didn't go get herself an education and college degree.
LMG and PSG "had" the same exact parents.
LMG and PSG parents told LMG and PSG the same exact thing when
each of them expressed a desire to get a college degree ---
GO OUT and GET ONE .
Both LMG and PSG were told with so many younger siblings left
to raise would have to pay for college through via their own
earnings, and whatever benefits they were entitled to from SS
and VA from their deceased fathers' account.
Both LMG and PSG were told they have to do so without any chance
of any scholarship $ because parents idiosyncracies about privacy
was they would not fill out any forms disclosing personal or income.
PSG could have chose to save every penny she made from her job at
the coupon place, and combined it with the $500-1000 from her
fathers estate, to pay for one years college tuition, just like
LMG chose to save every penny LMG earned from her HS pt jobs and
combine it with her $500-1000 inheritance and pay her first years
college tuition.
PSG could have chosen to live on the SS and VA $$$, while attending
college full time and working at night as a waitress to save up the
next years tuition, just like LMG chose to live on the small SS/VA
$$ while attending college full-time and working nights as a waitress
to save up for each following years tuition.
But, PSG did not choose to do as LMG chose--To GO OUT and GET an
education.
PSG chose to forgo college, and chose instead to marry a series
of booze guzzling men and work a bunch of dead end jobs until the
marraige to the third hubby produced three children that necessitating
someone stay home.
PSG's refusal to acknowledge her CHOICES, esp. her choice to
forgo college, and her scapegoating of others for her choice
makes the fact of LMG going and getting a college education
very TRiggering to the extremely mentally disturbed PSG,
even 32-35 years later.
I guess PSG never did go to college.
It seems to me, from what PSG has posted, she could have
chosen to spent the last three years productively, pursuing
a college degree, and have a degree by now.
But, NO.
PSG did not chose to spend the last three years productively.
Instead, PSG chose to spend the last three years, destructively,
engaging in stalking behaviors towards others, especially LMG.
Rather than chose to spend her time reading college texts,
working for a degree, PSG spent 2? 3? years googling LMG,
to ferret out as many of LMG's 10,000 plus posts as she could,
despite LMG's posting with everchanging nyms, everchanging isps,
everchanging nntp's, and posting hosts, and newsreaders.
Posts, which all too often contained the mindless babble
people post when engaging in idiotic flame wars.
PSG chose to expend years obsessively googling LMG's posting
history, rather than in more productive pursuits, then is
unable to grasp why people who know about some of PSG's other
crazy choices believe PSG is mad as a hatter.
Probably. PSG is a mentally disturbed person. Several years
ago she claimed she was dx'd with borderline personality disorder.
Of course, she is such a pathological liar one cannot accept
any claim she makes at face value. But, there is something
very wrong with her whatever the DX, and borderlines
and other mentally disturbed people always try to suck people
into their borderline or alternate reality becasue tthey don't
want to have to do the work they need to do to reconnect with
reality.
I believe PSG believes she stalks LMG to "correct" LMG ---
with the fantasies,confabulations and fictions PSG has
regrarding the long lost LMG ---
However, PSG's belief she is "correcting" the long lost
LMG with PSG's confabulations is just another symptom of
how severely disturbed PSG truly is.
I have never found anything the least bit funny about any
of the pathological behavior PSG has always engaged in
towards me.
The venue, an unmoderated public ng, is a novel venue
for her to engage in her pathological activity towards me,
but there is nothing new about the pathological activity she
is engaging in here,
PSG has been doing same exact thing to me, and others,
PSG's entire life anytime she got a toehold in my or their
social realm.
Naturally, I learned a long time ago to protect my social
life from PSG and her pathological desire to sabotage me socially
----and eventually 86'd PSG from my life altogether.
There has never been anything the least bit enjoyable about
my having to live my entire life in a world that contains a
mentally disturbed person possessed by a pathological
Compulsion to destroy, undermine,or sabotage any relationships
I have with others which I derive any sort of pleasure from,
as well as, destroy or "disappear" anything PSG suspects I
treasure.
If this was a case of PSG wanting what I have and taking it
for herself, I could understand that, greed.
But, PSG's doesn't want what i have for herself.
PSG pathology compels her to want to destroy my relationships
with others, or destroy and disappear things I treasure,
to deny me the pleasure I derive from those relationships
or my personal little treasures.
PSG is never going to get the type of help she needs until
she tells her doctors all the shitty things she has done to
me and others her whole life.
It's a damn good thing nobody consulted me about PSG's
erratic behavior, because if I had been the one who documented
all the crazy shit PSG has done ---my documenting it wouldn't
be no 14 page work, my documentation of PSG's crazy behavior
be a book at least as big as "War and Peace"!!!
I suppose PSG neglects to tell her doctors the crazy shit
she does because she's afraid if she told them, they would
lock her up...
But, the statue of limitations must have expired on her thefts,
so she ought to be able to tell her doctors about her being such
a terrible CLEPTOMANIAC, especially of LMG's possessions.
While I am certain PSG's denial remains fully intact and operational
-- PSG might be able to initiate a discussion with her doctor
about LMG's assertion LMG's treasured possessions have not been
disappearing into thin air, all LMG's life.
LMG's huge collection of fabric remnants given to LMG by her
mother and Mrs. McC. cause LMG loved to sew clothes for her
barbie dolls did NOT disappear into thin air.
LMG's beautiful red and white sewing basket given to her
by her Aunt J to hold all her needles, threads, buttons,
elastic, zippers---did NOT disappear into thin air.
LMG's college diploma's, professional certificates,
award certificates etc. did NOT detach themselves from LMG's
dining room wall and walk out her front door, all by themselves;
-some extremely mentally disturbed person "DISAPPEARED"
LMGs degree's, certificates and awards, right off LMG's
dining room wall.
No doubt, the very same mentally disturbed person who
"disappeared" LMG's very expensive hand made sweaters and
several of LMG's most expensive dresses, including LMG's
priceless Snakeskin dress, which PSG had the gall to STEAL,
and then mail LMG a xmas card with a picture of PSG's family
all dolled up,with PSG dolled up in LMG's priceless and real
snakeskin dress!!!!
No doubt, the same extremely mentally disturbed person who
"disappeared" LMG's pictures and souvenirs LMG brought back
from her many travels around the world.
It was PSG's "disappearing" LMG's Cloisenne that LMG had
brought back as souvinirs from LMG's trip to China ---
that caused LMG to finally decide PSG was insane.
Becuase PSG "disappeared" the cloisenne LMG brought back
from her trip to the FAR EAST, when PSG took it to Japan,
the far east, when PSG's hubby was transferred to Japan.
Do any of PSG's doctors know PSG does crazy shit like steal
away with all LMG's sovenirs from the far east, to take with
PSG to the far east, where PSG could buy cloisenne for peanuts?
Does PSG inform her doctors that people never allowed PSG in
their homes unguarded, YET, PSG always managed to find a way
to be left unguarded long enough to pilch something she
suspected LMG treasured?
Cause I want the name of any doctor who has advised PSG to
pursue her pathological stalking behaviors toward LMG after
LMG 86'd PSG from her life, cause LMG decided LMG was not
going to spend the second half of her life, as she had the
first half, on guard against the resurfaceing of an extremely
disturbed person whose ONLY interactions with LMG were always
interactions in which PSG was indulging her pathological
impulse to destroy or "disappear" anything LMG derived any
type of pleasure from.
Cause PSG's doctors have to set PSG straight about PSG feelings
toward the second born being so pathological in nature, and to
such a degree that PSG best forget LMG even exists.
PSG's real life is the one she made for herself with her current
husband and younger kids---and she needs to live that life---and
cease running out on her husband and 3 younger children, and
manically driving all around the country as part of her stalking
behaviors towards LMG and others.
LMG is extremely happy she decided that she wasn't going to live
the second half of her life, the same way she had lived the first
half....anxious over the very thought of PSG resurfacing.
It's no way to live, been there and done it, and I am not ever
living like that again.
The only thing i have ever found hilarious about anything to do
with PSG, was PSG's posts claiming somebody was scapegoating PSG.
I thought the biggest scapegoater the world has ever seen,
claiming she been scapegoated was truly hilarious.
PSG's scapegoating was never very funny, though.
Nor has her refusal to view members of her FOO from the perspective
of half full, rather than half empty.
Nor has PSG's attempt to punish people because PSG's an ingrate
who deludes herself the grass is always greener and PSG was
entitled to greener grass.
What is so very very very tragic about PSG having chosen to view
reality the mentally ill way she chose to, is that PSG was unable
to see that the grass was never greener on the other side, it was
always greener on OUR side.
Excepting the tragedy of our real fathers double illness and death,
and the trauma owing to that, WE all had it made in the
shade,otherwise.
Why couldnt' PSG ever open her eyes enough to notice that as
traumatized, and preoccupied as her mother was, her mother kept
her eye on the ball at all times, so we were well fed, properly
clothed and we never lost our home, even though our father was out
of work all the time, and we had nice homes, and we friggen lived
in one of the richer towns in the WEALTHIEST county in the entire
world at that time, which resulted in our attending the best schools
anywhere in the world, providing us a springboard in life, to do
anything we chose to with our lives.
So tragic that PSG is so mentally ill she has never been able to
see the facts and reality... PSG ignores reality looking for things
wrong to justify her pathological hatred of members of her FOO.
so PSG can continue being the ingrate PSG has always been, even though
PSG never once went without, ever, even during the leanest times,
-pennies were pinched to send PSG to gymnastics and into New York City
so she could take Irish dancing lessons, which is where PSG was the
day the proverbial shit hit the fan in our home, so PSG was spared
the trauma LMG was not.
The real tragedy of PSG's mental illness----is PSG had the makings
of a happy childhood, cept her fathers illness, YET was too mentally
ill to see how green her grass generally was.
I guess that is the tragedy of mentally illness, to have a life
that is good, but be so mentally ill as to never know that.
PSG had a good and loving mother, PSG didn't know it. PSG had
siblings who cared, but PSG was too mentally ill to ever have known
it...PSG had a nice home and nice things, but was too mentally ill
to know it, PSG grew up in the lap of luxury, but never realized it,
was educated in the best schools in the US, but was unaware of it,
and the opportunity it afforded her to use it as a springboard to
do anything she chose.
PSG missed out on her own, very good real life, because she chose to
believe she was in a dungeon, or the briar thicket, like in that
tarbaby story, when the dungeon/briar path only ever existed in
PSG own mind.
TRAGIC!!!
---LMG&Co---------------20040829/0235-------------------------
I have noted that I seem to be in your thoughts once more.
I am choosing to acknowledge but not respond to the words in this post
because I believe you "all" to be ill right now. You (plural) seem to
be such in a pattern of negative posting and until you're in a
healthier condition, this is the only kind of response I'm going to
make to the postings, no matter what you say about me or mine and no
matter how much I disagree with you or believe you to have the facts
incorrect.
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