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| Suzie Q 2004-11-04, 7:15 pm |
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Mom is 87 and for three years has had to use a wheelchair due to a fall
and increased fraility. She's able to get up and into the chair with
help and is able to use the bathroom. The problem is that she forgets
that she can't walk on her own anymore and tries to get up. She won't
ask for help even if I'm sitting in the same room and the minute I leave
the room she'll try to get up. It's gotten to the point that I can't
leave her alone for more than a couple of minutes. I have an audio and
also a tv monitor that I keep in my bedroom just in case she tries to
get up at night.....I haven't had an uninterrupted night's sleep in God
knows how long.
A friend gave me a device they use in the nursing home where she works
because they can't use restraints anymore. You attach it to their
clothing and then to the chair or bed and if they try to get up it pulls
the pin out and makes a very loud piercing noise. It is way too loud
and after just one afternon I had a horrible headache and gave it back.
Any ideas how to get Mom to stop trying to get up (she'll fall and get
hurt) without creating more of a problem? I've tried signs, telling her
over and over, and even tried to fix a mirror so I could see her around
a corner but for an old lady she can really move fast when she wants to
Thanx for any ideas.
SQ
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| Tumbleweed 2004-11-04, 7:15 pm |
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"Suzie Q" <TakeItEasy45@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:29556-4185A2DD-179@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
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> Mom is 87 and for three years has had to use a wheelchair due to a fall
> and increased fraility. She's able to get up and into the chair with
> help and is able to use the bathroom. The problem is that she forgets
> that she can't walk on her own anymore and tries to get up. She won't
> ask for help even if I'm sitting in the same room and the minute I leave
> the room she'll try to get up. It's gotten to the point that I can't
> leave her alone for more than a couple of minutes. I have an audio and
> also a tv monitor that I keep in my bedroom just in case she tries to
> get up at night.....I haven't had an uninterrupted night's sleep in God
> knows how long.
>
> A friend gave me a device they use in the nursing home where she works
> because they can't use restraints anymore. You attach it to their
> clothing and then to the chair or bed and if they try to get up it pulls
> the pin out and makes a very loud piercing noise. It is way too loud
> and after just one afternon I had a horrible headache and gave it back.
>
> Any ideas how to get Mom to stop trying to get up (she'll fall and get
> hurt) without creating more of a problem? I've tried signs, telling her
> over and over, and even tried to fix a mirror so I could see her around
> a corner but for an old lady she can really move fast when she wants to
>
>
> Thanx for any ideas.
>
> SQ
Susie, you will either have to haveher placed in a home, or get live in
help. There comes a point when it isnt physically possible for a single
person to look after an Az sufferer 24 hours a day.
--
Tumbleweed
email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
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| Evelyn Ruut 2004-11-04, 7:15 pm |
| "Suzie Q" <TakeItEasy45@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:29556-4185A2DD-179@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
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> Mom is 87 and for three years has had to use a wheelchair due to a fall
> and increased fraility. She's able to get up and into the chair with
> help and is able to use the bathroom. The problem is that she forgets
> that she can't walk on her own anymore and tries to get up. She won't
> ask for help even if I'm sitting in the same room and the minute I leave
> the room she'll try to get up. It's gotten to the point that I can't
> leave her alone for more than a couple of minutes. I have an audio and
> also a tv monitor that I keep in my bedroom just in case she tries to
> get up at night.....I haven't had an uninterrupted night's sleep in God
> knows how long.
>
> A friend gave me a device they use in the nursing home where she works
> because they can't use restraints anymore. You attach it to their
> clothing and then to the chair or bed and if they try to get up it pulls
> the pin out and makes a very loud piercing noise. It is way too loud
> and after just one afternon I had a horrible headache and gave it back.
>
> Any ideas how to get Mom to stop trying to get up (she'll fall and get
> hurt) without creating more of a problem? I've tried signs, telling her
> over and over, and even tried to fix a mirror so I could see her around
> a corner but for an old lady she can really move fast when she wants to
>
>
> Thanx for any ideas.
>
> SQ
Suzie, it is exactly that sort of thing which caused us to place my mother
in law in a nursing home. It got to be nearly impossible for us when she
couldn't walk without falling anymore. She would continue to try and go
here or there on her own and always end up falling down if we weren't with
her and holding her arm.
In the nursing home they have a foam pillow sort of a thing they call a "lap
buddy" which fits between the armrests of the wheelchair. It is easy for a
normal standing individual to compress it and remove it from the wheelchair,
but it is hard for the elderly person to get it out. So it is essentially
a kind of a restraint for the person's own safety, since they could
conceivably get it out but only when they are really determined.
If you should manage to find one, it is suggested you place your mom on a
toileting schedule so she isn't trying to get out by herself when she needs
to go.
--
Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox")
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| Mary Gordon 2004-11-04, 7:15 pm |
| Two ideas
The first is a lap cushion that fits across a standard wheelchair and
might keep her in the chair.
http://www.caregiversworld.com/Prod...ct_group_id=134
Second is the standard geri-chairs, which are still in use, despite
the fact they are a restraint device. Essentially, a very comfortable
chair that can go into various positions, and has a laptray that keeps
them in the chair. I've never seen an AD ward that didn't have a few
of these (they get used to stop chronic pacers from literally walking
their feet off).
http://www.4liftchairs.com/Geri-Chairs.htm
Mary G.
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| Suzie Q 2004-11-04, 7:15 pm |
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Thank you all for your responses which gave me an idea. Since we
primarily use the wheelchair to get her from place to place and most of
the time while up she's in a regular chair, I'm going to look for one of
those tables they use in hospitals that can be positioned across her and
somehow find a way that she can't push it away. This would also provide
a surface where she can 'play' with various objects....over and over
again.
SQ
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| turkey in the straw 2004-11-16, 4:49 pm |
| Suzie,
I put side rails on my moms bed and she can't get out without my
help.
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| Glenfiddich 2004-11-16, 4:49 pm |
| On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:37:08 -0600, barbfrombethel@webtv.net (turkey
in the straw) wrote:
>Suzie,
> I put side rails on my moms bed and she can't get out without my
>help.
That's going to depend on the patient's level of ability and
determination.
Others have mentioned that side rails can be more dangerous
for those who try to climb over them.
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| Stephen B 2004-11-16, 4:49 pm |
| Glenfiddich <atsila@nyc.RoadRunner.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:37:08 -0600, barbfrombethel@webtv.net (turkey
>in the straw) wrote:
>
>
>That's going to depend on the patient's level of ability and
>determination.
>Others have mentioned that side rails can be more dangerous
>for those who try to climb over them.
Oh, how true that is! My mom, at 77, regularly climbs right over the fence
between the side yard and the driveway instead of walking around to the gate -
and that is about 20 feet away from where she climbs. She is quite spunky and
determined. I can't imagine her being held back by bed rails.
-steve
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| Evelyn Ruut 2004-11-16, 4:49 pm |
| "Stephen B" <stephen.notarealaddress@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:344cp01lb60cuaja4aoqi1627bmm8koqo4@4ax.com...
> Glenfiddich <atsila@nyc.RoadRunner.com> wrote:
>
>
> Oh, how true that is! My mom, at 77, regularly climbs right over the fence
> between the side yard and the driveway instead of walking around to the
> gate -
> and that is about 20 feet away from where she climbs. She is quite spunky
> and
> determined. I can't imagine her being held back by bed rails.
> -steve
True. Although my mother in law's sense of balance left somewhere along the
line, she remained extremely flexible. As an example, when we got a puppy
(to replace her old dog that had to be put to sleep), she would climb over
the baby gate into the kitchen with ease, whereas I had to open the gate to
go through. She would quite effortlessly bend down to pick up some little
fragment off the floor.
--
Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox")
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| SeaQuestered 2004-11-16, 4:49 pm |
| >That's going to depend on the patient's level of ability and
>determination.
>Others have mentioned that side rails can be more dangerous
>for those who try to climb over them.
>
>
> When my Mom started getting up through the night and trying to get out of
the house I started looking for options and came across a vail bed. You need a
Dr.'s script, which I had no problem getting. I was told Medicare might cover
all or some of it. I never got a chance to find out though because Mom declined
very quickly.
Here's a link
http://www.vailbed.com/bedsystems.htm
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| SeaQuestered 2004-11-16, 4:49 pm |
| >That's going to depend on the patient's level of ability and
>determination.
>Others have mentioned that side rails can be more dangerous
>for those who try to climb over them.
>
>
> When my Mom started getting up through the night and trying to get out of
the house I started looking for options and came across a vail bed. You need a
Dr.'s script, which I had no problem getting. I was told Medicare might cover
all or some of it. I never got a chance to find out though because Mom declined
very quickly.
Here's a link,
http://www.vailbed.com/bedsystems.htm
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| turkey in the straw 2004-11-20, 11:35 am |
| Suzie,
I put side rails on my moms bed and she can't get out without my
help.
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| Glenfiddich 2004-11-20, 11:35 am |
| On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:37:08 -0600, barbfrombethel@webtv.net (turkey
in the straw) wrote:
>Suzie,
> I put side rails on my moms bed and she can't get out without my
>help.
That's going to depend on the patient's level of ability and
determination.
Others have mentioned that side rails can be more dangerous
for those who try to climb over them.
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| Evelyn Ruut 2004-11-20, 11:35 am |
| "Stephen B" <stephen.notarealaddress@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:344cp01lb60cuaja4aoqi1627bmm8koqo4@4ax.com...
> Glenfiddich <atsila@nyc.RoadRunner.com> wrote:
>
>
> Oh, how true that is! My mom, at 77, regularly climbs right over the fence
> between the side yard and the driveway instead of walking around to the
> gate -
> and that is about 20 feet away from where she climbs. She is quite spunky
> and
> determined. I can't imagine her being held back by bed rails.
> -steve
True. Although my mother in law's sense of balance left somewhere along the
line, she remained extremely flexible. As an example, when we got a puppy
(to replace her old dog that had to be put to sleep), she would climb over
the baby gate into the kitchen with ease, whereas I had to open the gate to
go through. She would quite effortlessly bend down to pick up some little
fragment off the floor.
--
Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox")
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