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| Warren W 2006-03-22, 3:02 pm |
| Greetings,
I am a hearing man taking a class in ASL. The course requirements
include writing a research paper and mine will be on hearing dogs.
I would be much obliged to anyone who might share first-hand experience
with these animals.
This is an informal paper intended to expose the class to various facets
of deaf culture; no personal information is necessary. Share as much or
as little information as you see fit.
Thanks in advance,
WarrenW (public2-at-warcholik-dotcom)
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I have a Service Dog, but you really haven't given much
in the way of what you're looking for. Can you explain a
bit more please.
"Warren W" <public2@warcholik.com> wrote in message
news:120v5oilr5jg8b7@corp.supernews.com...
| Greetings,
|
| I am a hearing man taking a class in ASL. The course requirements
| include writing a research paper and mine will be on hearing dogs.
|
| I would be much obliged to anyone who might share first-hand experience
| with these animals.
|
| This is an informal paper intended to expose the class to various facets
| of deaf culture; no personal information is necessary. Share as much or
| as little information as you see fit.
|
| Thanks in advance,
|
| WarrenW (public2-at-warcholik-dotcom)
| |
| Warren W 2006-03-22, 3:02 pm |
|
Greetings,
Yes, my apologies, I was rather vague. I don't want to ask anything too
personal or so remedial as to be offensive. Ideally, I would like to know:
About the dog:
- breed and gender
- background, training
- approximate cost to own
- what services the dog performs and how
- the dog's reliability
About you (skip anything with which you are uncomfortable)
- your location (city/country)
- your hearing background (born hearing or deaf, etc.)
- you/your family's relationship with the dog (is it a pet, too?)
- any comments or editorial you think may be of interest or wish to share.
I have unfortunately had so little exposure to the culture and concerns
that I perhaps don't know what questions to ask so please feel
entirely free to educate me.
If you would prefer not reply to the group, please email me at: public2
at warcholik dot com.
Once again, thanks in advance to anybody who is willing to take the time
to share this information.
WarrenW
RK wrote:
> I have a Service Dog, but you really haven't given much
> in the way of what you're looking for. Can you explain a
> bit more please.
>
> "Warren W" <public2@warcholik.com> wrote in message
> news:120v5oilr5jg8b7@corp.supernews.com...
> | Greetings,
> |
> | I am a hearing man taking a class in ASL. The course requirements
> | include writing a research paper and mine will be on hearing dogs.
> |
> | I would be much obliged to anyone who might share first-hand experience
> | with these animals.
> |
> | This is an informal paper intended to expose the class to various facets
> | of deaf culture; no personal information is necessary. Share as much or
> | as little information as you see fit.
> |
> | Thanks in advance,
> |
> | WarrenW (public2-at-warcholik-dotcom)
>
>
| |
|
| I'd like a hearing dog. But I see no government assistance or help on this
subject.
"Warren W" <public2@warcholik.com> wrote in message
news:1211ukq6csgbg42@corp.supernews.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Greetings,
>
> Yes, my apologies, I was rather vague. I don't want to ask anything too
> personal or so remedial as to be offensive. Ideally, I would like to
> know:
>
> About the dog:
> - breed and gender
> - background, training
> - approximate cost to own
> - what services the dog performs and how
> - the dog's reliability
>
> About you (skip anything with which you are uncomfortable)
> - your location (city/country)
> - your hearing background (born hearing or deaf, etc.)
> - you/your family's relationship with the dog (is it a pet, too?)
> - any comments or editorial you think may be of interest or wish to share.
>
> I have unfortunately had so little exposure to the culture and concerns
> that I perhaps don't know what questions to ask so please feel entirely
> free to educate me.
>
> If you would prefer not reply to the group, please email me at: public2 at
> warcholik dot com.
>
> Once again, thanks in advance to anybody who is willing to take the time
> to share this information.
>
> WarrenW
>
>
>
> RK wrote:
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| ardway 2006-03-22, 3:02 pm |
| Don wrote:
> I'd like a hearing dog. But I see no government assistance or help on this
> subject.
>
Just out of curiosity, why should it be the government's responsibility
to give you a hearing dog?
Ardway
| |
| Thomas Bunetta 2006-03-22, 3:02 pm |
|
"ardway" <elbow@medblock.edu> wrote in message
news:FeUQf.31169$2c4.10303@dukeread11...
> Don wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity, why should it be the government's responsibility to
> give you a hearing dog?
>
> Ardway
It appears our society has come to believe that the individual no longer
should have to shoulder responsibility for much of anything :>(.
Tom
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"ardway" <elbow@medblock.edu> wrote in message
news:FeUQf.31169$2c4.10303@dukeread11...
> Don wrote:
this[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Just out of curiosity, why should it be the government's responsibility
> to give you a hearing dog?
>
> Ardway
After training, etc. the cost is probably out of reach for most.
It's like all things... people helping people. Thirty, forty years ago your
neighbour in a wheel chair could get out and go up and the block he/she
lived on. That was the way it was.
In my city the people got together and now all the corners are sloped (no
curbs) so that neighbour can go a few blocks... say to the local corner
store. There is no way that neighbour could afford to hire a crew to remove
the old corner and redo the concrete so he could get around a bit easier.
It's not yet the responsibility of the people, however if everyone in a city
threw in, say a nickel or a dime (no real cost to that person) then perhaps
another dog could be trained and someone would have a better life.
That's my take on the subject.
| |
| ardway 2006-03-22, 3:02 pm |
| Slap wrote:
> "ardway" <elbow@medblock.edu> wrote in message
> news:FeUQf.31169$2c4.10303@dukeread11...
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> After training, etc. the cost is probably out of reach for most.
>
> It's like all things... people helping people. Thirty, forty years ago your
> neighbour in a wheel chair could get out and go up and the block he/she
> lived on. That was the way it was.
>
> In my city the people got together and now all the corners are sloped (no
> curbs) so that neighbour can go a few blocks... say to the local corner
> store. There is no way that neighbour could afford to hire a crew to remove
> the old corner and redo the concrete so he could get around a bit easier.
>
The numbers of elderly people falling on these curbs has risen sharply.
I wonder if the mobility of a very few is worth the pain and agony of
many others. Some elderly no longer feel safe on the streets for fear of
falling.
Its one of life's little ironies that there is no free lunch.
Unfortunately, I see a larger and larger number of people with the
attitude that they are soemhow owed something by everybody else. Maybe
so, but I find that attitude hard to justify. I also see the unintended
consequences of do-goodism.
If you have a neighbor who needs a "hearing dog" why not band together
and get her one, by pooling your own money, instead of asking everyone
to give money they may not wish to, or who have other concerns they wish
funded? There is no inexhaustible source of money anywhere. Somebody has
to pay. And somebody else, with a quieter voice, has to suffer for it.
C. Ardway
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and why would it be the gov that needs to assist you?
the gov doesn't assist me.. I chose a SD instead of HA's
this is my choice. does the gov assist you with battery
replacement for your HA? same thing. if you want a SD,
then get the "proper" type of dog and learn to train it yourself.
there are man organizations such as Paws for a Cause that
train the dog for free.. just the upkeep is your responsibility,
same as owning a dog in general. feeding, vetting. vaccines, worm
and heartworm treatment along with flee n tick treatment. loving them
taking them out for walks and getting plenty of exercise, continue
to teach them on your own because you're tested ever so often
to keep your cert on the SD. Really, it's as expensive as having a
kid..
http://www.pawswithacause.org/
"Don" <Don12345@supportcharter.net> wrote in message
news:7kDQf.515$pV1.86@fe02.lga...
| I'd like a hearing dog. But I see no government assistance or help on
this
| subject.
|
|
| "Warren W" <public2@warcholik.com> wrote in message
| news:1211ukq6csgbg42@corp.supernews.com...
| >
| > Greetings,
| >
| > Yes, my apologies, I was rather vague. I don't want to ask anything too
| > personal or so remedial as to be offensive. Ideally, I would like to
| > know:
| >
| > About the dog:
| > - breed and gender
| > - background, training
| > - approximate cost to own
| > - what services the dog performs and how
| > - the dog's reliability
| >
| > About you (skip anything with which you are uncomfortable)
| > - your location (city/country)
| > - your hearing background (born hearing or deaf, etc.)
| > - you/your family's relationship with the dog (is it a pet, too?)
| > - any comments or editorial you think may be of interest or wish to
share.
| >
| > I have unfortunately had so little exposure to the culture and concerns
| > that I perhaps don't know what questions to ask so please feel entirely
| > free to educate me.
| >
| > If you would prefer not reply to the group, please email me at: public2
at
| > warcholik dot com.
| >
| > Once again, thanks in advance to anybody who is willing to take the time
| > to share this information.
| >
| > WarrenW
| >
| >
| >
| > RK wrote:
| >> I have a Service Dog, but you really haven't given much
| >> in the way of what you're looking for. Can you explain a
| >> bit more please.
| >>
| >> "Warren W" <public2@warcholik.com> wrote in message
| >> news:120v5oilr5jg8b7@corp.supernews.com...
| >> | Greetings,
| >> |
| >> | I am a hearing man taking a class in ASL. The course requirements
| >> | include writing a research paper and mine will be on hearing dogs.
| >> |
| >> | I would be much obliged to anyone who might share first-hand
experience
| >> | with these animals.
| >> |
| >> | This is an informal paper intended to expose the class to various
| >> facets
| >> | of deaf culture; no personal information is necessary. Share as much
| >> or
| >> | as little information as you see fit.
| >> |
| >> | Thanks in advance,
| >> |
| >> | WarrenW (public2-at-warcholik-dotcom)
|
|
| |
|
| Hearing dogs apparently offer a means of detecting and identifying
various sound events and then notifying the HOH person. They also offer
companionship.
If you separate out the need for companionship as another issue, then
the rest would seem to be able to be done by something like a pocket
computer equipped with a sophisticated special program, with a
microphone and with alarm devices like flashers, vibrators etc..
Costs would be much lower and those who may not wish to care for dogs
would still be accommodated.
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|
|
boy are YOU way WRONG!
ppl who don't have a clue abt SD just shldn't comment imho.
"jim" <jwcrim@wiltontech.com> wrote in message
news:1142190837.054202.153870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Hearing dogs apparently offer a means of detecting and identifying
| various sound events and then notifying the HOH person. They also offer
| companionship.
|
| If you separate out the need for companionship as another issue, then
| the rest would seem to be able to be done by something like a pocket
| computer equipped with a sophisticated special program, with a
| microphone and with alarm devices like flashers, vibrators etc..
|
| Costs would be much lower and those who may not wish to care for dogs
| would still be accommodated.
|
| |
|
| > boy are YOU way WRONG!
> ppl who don't have a clue abt SD just shldn't comment imho
Well then according to RK looks like we all better get dogs and shut up
about it. Alternatives be damned.
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|
|
Thank you all for your responses. I have until March 23 to gather
others' experiences with hearing dogs and I would very much appreciate
anything else you are willing to share.
Thanks,
WarrenW
Warren W wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Greetings,
>
> Yes, my apologies, I was rather vague. I don't want to ask anything too
> personal or so remedial as to be offensive. Ideally, I would like to know:
>
> About the dog:
> - breed and gender
> - background, training
> - approximate cost to own
> - what services the dog performs and how
> - the dog's reliability
>
> About you (skip anything with which you are uncomfortable)
> - your location (city/country)
> - your hearing background (born hearing or deaf, etc.)
> - you/your family's relationship with the dog (is it a pet, too?)
> - any comments or editorial you think may be of interest or wish to share.
>
> I have unfortunately had so little exposure to the culture and concerns
> that I perhaps don't know what questions to ask so please feel entirely
> free to educate me.
>
> If you would prefer not reply to the group, please email me at: public2
> at warcholik dot com.
>
> Once again, thanks in advance to anybody who is willing to take the time
> to share this information.
>
> WarrenW
>
>
>
> RK wrote:
>
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| Rich256 2006-03-22, 3:02 pm |
|
Just what is it that is wrong with what he said? Looks pretty much like
what is said on the web site I referenced:
http://hometown.aol.com/IHDI/IHDI.html
"The dogs learn to respond to many sounds in the home, such as the door
bell or knock, telephone, alarm clock, smoke alarm, or a baby's cries,
during daily training sessions."
RK wrote:
> boy are YOU way WRONG!
>
> ppl who don't have a clue abt SD just shldn't comment imho.
>
>
> "jim" <jwcrim@wiltontech.com> wrote in message
> news:1142190837.054202.153870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> | Hearing dogs apparently offer a means of detecting and identifying
> | various sound events and then notifying the HOH person. They also offer
> | companionship.
> |
> | If you separate out the need for companionship as another issue, then
> | the rest would seem to be able to be done by something like a pocket
> | computer equipped with a sophisticated special program, with a
> | microphone and with alarm devices like flashers, vibrators etc..
> |
> | Costs would be much lower and those who may not wish to care for dogs
> | would still be accommodated.
> |
>
>
| |
|
|
this is what is wrong..
> | If you separate out the need for companionship as another issue, then
> | the rest would seem to be able to be done by something like a pocket
> | computer equipped with a sophisticated special program, with a
> | microphone and with alarm devices like flashers, vibrators etc..
SD are NOT companions. SD are not a "pet" which is considered a companion.
a SD is a working dog. The ADA and ADI states that SD are not "pets"
doesn't
mean you cannot treat them as such, but when you do.. you break their
training and
they no longer are completely reliable to do the job they were trained to
do. also
SD are used along with flashers and vibrators often.
again, those who do not have a SD really shldn't comment on things they
know nothing about. Even many websites are seriously incorrect.
Just one today I was at that claimed they trained SD for the Blind-Deaf,
stated
they teach the dog ASL, well, that does a lot of good when the Blind-Deaf
don't
USE ASL!!! instead they use another type of SL. which is called Tacticle.
This is how ignorance spreads.. by misunderstanding and bad information.
"Rich256" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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|
| Just what is it that is wrong with what he said? Looks pretty much like
| what is said on the web site I referenced:
|
| http://hometown.aol.com/IHDI/IHDI.html
|
|
| "The dogs learn to respond to many sounds in the home, such as the door
| bell or knock, telephone, alarm clock, smoke alarm, or a baby's cries,
| during daily training sessions."
|
| RK wrote:
| > boy are YOU way WRONG!
| >
| > ppl who don't have a clue abt SD just shldn't comment imho.
| >
| >
| > "jim" <jwcrim@wiltontech.com> wrote in message
| > news:1142190837.054202.153870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | Hearing dogs apparently offer a means of detecting and identifying
| > | various sound events and then notifying the HOH person. They also
offer
| > | companionship.
| > |
| > | If you separate out the need for companionship as another issue, then
| > | the rest would seem to be able to be done by something like a pocket
| > | computer equipped with a sophisticated special program, with a
| > | microphone and with alarm devices like flashers, vibrators etc..
| > |
| > | Costs would be much lower and those who may not wish to care for dogs
| > | would still be accommodated.
| > |
| >
| >
| |
| erration@yahoo.com 2006-03-22, 3:02 pm |
| "ppl who don't have a clue abt SD just shldn't comment imho"
Companionship is out? Great! In that case RK there is far less argument
for going to your dogs in lieu of the much more practical electronic
solution proposed.
As far as who should comment, the electronics proposal is certainly
more useful than your panicky sniping. Offering ideas is how new
solutions begin and evolve.
If you need to suppress comments, start with your own.
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XXXX off! how about that for a comment?
interesting I'm the ONLY one WHO has a SD
and knows WTF they actually do.. you're post
was a total waste of BW XXXXXXX.
now go back to spanking your monkey since thats
the only thing you can get..
Asta!
<erration@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1142271897.770552.303640@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
| "ppl who don't have a clue abt SD just shldn't comment imho"
|
| Companionship is out? Great! In that case RK there is far less argument
| for going to your dogs in lieu of the much more practical electronic
| solution proposed.
|
| As far as who should comment, the electronics proposal is certainly
| more useful than your panicky sniping. Offering ideas is how new
| solutions begin and evolve.
|
| If you need to suppress comments, start with your own.
|
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| erration@yahoo.com 2006-03-22, 3:02 pm |
| "interesting I'm the ONLY one WHO has a SD and knows WTF they actually
do"
Maybe you can get shots for it.
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| me relpy last ..Pll who think know abt svc dog have zero Scv dog... me
click on relpy RK only cuz me last read her reply.. Me for RK she unddy
how importsvc dog is! Other learn best! Other wize zero add ur smart
remarks Thk U
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