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Hi everyone

Mary S.

2006-01-01, 12:54 pm

Hey everybody, and Happy New Year, dammit. I read your posts and you
all still make me laugh, and make me learn stuff. Just been a little
quiet lately, head still spinning. I'm still in the place I was before,
but! I'm going home to New Orleans. And THAT, my dear friends, is the
best thing I can say about 2006 so far, except good riddance and rest
in peace 2005.
Now a request for more info: I am looking for a forum for people with
drinking issues. Hopefully one that does not scream "AA GODGODGODGIVE
YOURSELF UPTO YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT", and maybe, if I'm lucky, one
with drinkers on meds. legal meds, preferably. But drinkers who want to
stop, or have stopped. Young and old, been there, new to the group,
experts, obnoxious posters, wonderful generous helpful types. You know,
like this group. I am sure every group has a life and personality of
it's own, and this one just landed in the right pile of manure because
it is so good, and funny, and helpful. So! If anyone out there knows of
a good group, let me know, and I will continue to look myself. HELLO to
Nom, Larry, Eric, Indianperson who was so helpful, Culpret, (sp?),
Everyone!

Larry Hoover

2006-01-01, 5:59 pm

"Mary S." <mks987@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1136136635.520942.219400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hey everybody, and Happy New Year, dammit.

Dammit to you, too. ;-)

I read your posts and you
> all still make me laugh, and make me learn stuff. Just been a little
> quiet lately, head still spinning. I'm still in the place I was before,
> but! I'm going home to New Orleans. And THAT, my dear friends, is the
> best thing I can say about 2006 so far, except good riddance and rest
> in peace 2005.

Good luck with that. I hear it's not the same place, yet.

> Now a request for more info: I am looking for a forum for people with
> drinking issues. Hopefully one that does not scream "AA GODGODGODGIVE
> YOURSELF UPTO YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT", and maybe, if I'm lucky, one
> with drinkers on meds. legal meds, preferably. But drinkers who want to
> stop, or have stopped. Young and old, been there, new to the group,
> experts, obnoxious posters, wonderful generous helpful types. You know,
> like this group. I am sure every group has a life and personality of
> it's own, and this one just landed in the right pile of manure because
> it is so good, and funny, and helpful. So! If anyone out there knows of
> a good group, let me know, and I will continue to look myself. HELLO to
> Nom, Larry, Eric, Indianperson who was so helpful, Culpret, (sp?),
> Everyone!

Nice to not be an everyone. :-)

Here's a place like you were looking for:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/subs/

Short for substance abuse.
To post, you have to register, but anyone can read. All the posts, ever, are
archived. Links, at the top of the page. And google searchable.
Registration ensures total anonymity, but allows the moderators to ensure that you
are identifiable, if you step out of line. Read the FAQ, and try and understand what
is meant by being civil.

All the best in the new year,
Lar

Cassandra

2006-01-01, 5:59 pm

LOL! I swear, EVERY woman I've ever spoken to about any of the 12-step
groups has had the same objection: "What do you mean 'admit I'm
helpless and put my trust in something outside myself!?!???' I've been
told all my life that I'm helpless -- why do you think I drink/do
drugs/overeat/undereat/whatever in the first place?" That part has to
be a guy thing, don't you think?

And I'll second Larry's suggestion of the Subs board at PsychoBabble.

culprit

2006-01-02, 1:05 am

"Cassandra" <babbler39@excite.com> wrote in message
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> LOL! I swear, EVERY woman I've ever spoken to about any of the 12-step
> groups has had the same objection: "What do you mean 'admit I'm
> helpless and put my trust in something outside myself!?!???' I've been
> told all my life that I'm helpless -- why do you think I drink/do
> drugs/overeat/undereat/whatever in the first place?" That part has to
> be a guy thing, don't you think?
>
> And I'll second Larry's suggestion of the Subs board at PsychoBabble.

for me it's more the "higher power" stuff, and the fact that all the AA
folks i know drink coffee by the gallon and smoke like chimneys. trading
one addictoin for another maybe? AA itself just seems like another
addiction, really.

and hey Mary, good to see you back! i hope your journey home is a happy
one.

-kelly

ilikeindianfood@hotmail.com

2006-01-02, 10:59 am

Dammit. I've written two XXXXing replies that both got eaten by google.
I can't go on anymore aobut AA. Yeah it's an addiction but you can do
what you want. You can ignore the religious bullshit and just use it as
a support group. There are like 3 AA meetings a day in my town and a
bipolar group maybe one every two weeks. So if I wanna let loose am I
gonna wait???

Mary, if this gets erased I am gonna go nuts. What I said in a nice
long reply was at its most basic this-
Booze = Death/Heaven

Someone dies, right, and you rationalize so much or sink into despair.
Oh they are with the angels. Oh there is no God. Wait I feel God. Life
is hell, God is dead. Etc.

Same thing with booze. I just said XXXX it. It's dead to me. I'll go
thru hell. I've been thru hell. But I'm not gonna let myself
rationalize taking a drink. Just like when someone close to me dies,
which is happening too much these days, I'm not gonna get evangelical
and praise the lord nor am I gonna spend time in my room trying to
figure out what happens after... You just gotta cut it and accept
ignorance as bliss. Now that's controlling it yourself, no?
My other replies were a lot better

There is a non-religious AA type group..
If this gets erased.....

Gabe

ilikeindianfood@hotmail.com

2006-01-02, 10:59 am

Yo Mary,

I think my message got thru. Thank you God. Oops.

I say trade booze for pot. Joke. Yeah so if you want to write me please
do ok cause I'm way down in the dumps. Use the hotmail indianfood
address.
Yeah I'm not Indian, I just wised up and stopped using my full name
just in case I get a job with the CIA and they do a background check

Kelly, the thing about AA that cracks me up is the power given to the
coffee maker leader or whatever. Every meeting I went to they said I
could rise to be in charge of coffee which is funny since I have
akathisia.

That said, AA really is a good organization and yes, there are a lot of
people with our problems being helped. Plus if you don't wanna do the
steps, XXXX it. No one will force you. Just go to the meetings. But I
like my previous advice just as much.

Gabe <--- real name

Mary S.

2006-01-02, 6:01 pm

ilikeindianfood@hotmail.com wrote:
> Yo Mary,
>
>
> I think my message got thru. Thank you God. Oops.

> I say trade booze for pot. Joke. Yeah so if you want to write me please
> do ok cause I'm way down in the dumps. Use the hotmail indianfood
> address.
> Yeah I'm not Indian, I just wised up and stopped using my full name
> just in case I get a job with the CIA and they do a background check

>
> Kelly, the thing about AA that cracks me up is the power given to the
> coffee maker leader or whatever. Every meeting I went to they said I
> could rise to be in charge of coffee which is funny since I have
> akathisia.
>
> That said, AA really is a good organization and yes, there are a lot of
> people with our problems being helped. Plus if you don't wanna do the
> steps, XXXX it. No one will force you. Just go to the meetings. But I
> like my previous advice just as much.
>
>
> Gabe <--- real name

Gabe,
Thanks for writing. I read your posts about the pizza escapade -
sounds like you are doing pretty well with a sense of humor. You may be
right about the AA groups, and I will probably go back. I think I will
also get some professional help, like go to detox or something. I'm
sorry you are down in the dumps, you can write to me, too. I have this
stupid image in my mind of myself "trying to keep my chin up", and it's
all you can see in the image, just my chin. The rest is melted on the
floor. That's kind of where FEMA and the insurance Co's. like to keep
us Katrina folks. It's just stubborn New Orleanian pride that keeps me
going. Maybe our senses of humor will be what saves us in the end. The
reality is that I was not doing well before the storm, not well at all.
Had a bad year with 2 bad injuries, best friend dying, then flooding
and being abandoned by the gov'ment which should have not been a big
surprise, but it was. Now I am sort of shocked into a more realistic
view of myself, my city, and my world. So, some good comes out of it.
I think I need to go to all the meetings and find a few good ones, make
sure to find a sponsor this time, and change my habits. Drinking is
just what I do at night. It has been for a long time. I need to start
cooking again, start knitting or sewing or reading or pilates, or paint
the house. I would do anything to get rid of this gene I seem to carry,
this predisposition for drink and addiction. I wish they could just
pluck it out of me.
Anyway, I thank this forum for having people to talk to. I hope things
get better for you, Gabe. I'm not much help to anyone, but I'm here if
you want to write, and I'll write back.

Mary S.

2006-01-02, 6:01 pm

Hey Kelly,
Thanks for telling me I am not alone in this frustration with AA. I
need to find some good groups, and keep trying. It fits my budget. I
may also go through a detox program of some sort. I think coffee and
cigarettes is the consolation prize for quitting drinking. I know one
lady who bought herself flowers every friday as a reminder she had
achieved sobriety. Somehow that won't do it for me. I think this might
be denial talking, but I want to get the meds straight before I quit,
but the Doc's all say you have to quit drinking first. So I am just
standing there with my sword drawn, ready to fight, but not really
ready to win. XXXX the "higher power" shit, I agree. I'm sure there is
something out there that will work for me. I didn't drink on New Years
eve, (I know, how strange), and felt a bit better than usual the next
day, but I was really hungry all day. Did not feel trapped by being a
parent, as I sometimes did. Did not argue with my 15-year old. Energy
pretty good. What did me in last night was inviting my older sister to
have dinner with us, and she was as hung over as could be from New
Years. Conversations about family stuff, her deeply hidden anger, her
judgements.....'bout 9 o'clock I went out for ciggarettes and bought
some wine. Drank 1/2 the bottle, and threw the rest out. So, I would
call that a twisted sort of progress. I've gone on way too long now,
sorry. Anyway, Happy 2006, and thanks for writing.

Mary S.

2006-01-02, 6:01 pm

I meant to also say Dear Cassandra.......

Nom dePlume

2006-01-03, 1:07 am

"Mary S." <mks987@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1136136635.520942.219400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> HELLO to
> Nom, Larry, Eric, Indianperson who was so helpful, Culpret, (sp?),
> Everyone!

Mary - Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the subject, so I'll
have to pass on supplying suggestions. However, Hello and Happy New
Year to you!
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.

Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/

=====

Mary S.

2006-01-03, 1:07 am

Hey Daddy!
Happy New Year to You and yours, Thanks for all the help.

M

Dirk Diggler

2006-01-03, 1:07 am

Mary S. wrote:

> floor. That's kind of where FEMA

XXXX FEMA...thats your government in action for ya <sarcasm>.

>and the insurance Co's. like to keep
> us Katrina folks.

I have always hated insurance of all types. Insurance is a scam...a
ripoff. I was literally taught to HATE insurance by my Dad. Insurance
is the only business I can think of where the customer is never right.
We'd all be better off without insurance. Bunch of lazy motherXXXXers
work in insurance, getting rich off of it and not paying out when its
time for them to pay out as promised.

I am ashamed of my country with the way our government has treated
Katrina victims. Just as I am ashamed of my country with the way it
treats people with severe mental illnesses.

Eric

glenn1@webtv.net

2006-01-03, 10:59 am

Hi Mary...
I finally had had enough of the beer drinking three years ago and just
flat out stopped....
went to AAfor awhile, and it helped...helped me to be honest with myself
about what I had become.
I think the mst important things to remember if you want to stay sober
are:you cannot compare your drinking (or drugging) to somebody
elses...(i.e.: "I don't drink as muchas so and so, and he doesn't
seemto have a problem,; then I guess I don'thave a problem")
alot of people fool themselves that way.....also, i you really want to
stay sober, you have to believe that the life you just got away from is
a book that is done being written now. Now, you have started a new
book. simple way to look at things....
just remember, everyday is a holiday.....

Glenn