Depression Medications - Larry Hoover knows more than my elite endocrinologist

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Larry Hoover knows more than my elite endocrinologist

LostBoyinNC

2005-04-28, 5:50 pm

Larry Hoover wrote:
> "LostBoyinNC" <DeepSand562@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1114653338.993679.229320@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
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>
> That's not the mechanism at all.

Here we have it folks, Larry Hoover arguing with me about what my own
doctors told me. My doctors, an endocrinologist whose specialty is
androgen therapy as well as my family doctor, both told me my iron loss
is probably being caused by my hypogonadism. They didnt go into all the
detail showoff Larry Hoover has gone into here. But then again there
was no need for it. I took their word for it and it made a lot of
sense.

>Hypogonadism can cause secondary normocytic anemia
> through suppression of erythropoietin release. You can have normal
iron intake and
> still have anemia, if you have a chronic endocrine disturbance

Really, Larry? Are you for REAL?!? Gosh you are so XXXXing smart.

>

> The mineral loss is mediated via secondary parathyroid disturbance,
and leads to
> osteopenia, if not frank osteoporosis, via loss of calcium and
magnesium. That does
> not apply to iron. Anemia secondary to hypogonadism is not an iron
balance disorder.
> It's an iron utilization disorder.

Um...OK Doctor Hoover. Truck driver turned endocrinologist.

>
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>
> That's not what would happen, Eric. And, the amount to avoid frank
deficiency
> (called scurvy), which would be found by a medical doctor doing blood
tests (your
> model), is 90 mg/day. That's about 3% of that larger amount. What do
you think
> happens with all that extra vitamin?

Oh yeah it would cause Ive tried it and it was buffered vitamin C too.
I took 3000 mg of that powdered buffered vitamin c thats not sour at
all, just bitter. And it gave me the worst shits in my life.

Ive read elsewhere that excess levels of vitamin C will give a person
the shits real bad.

>
>
> Ascorbic acid is a weak organic acid, which is 100's of times weaker
than the HCl
> secreted by your stomach. All you have to do is take an ascorbate
salt, and you
> bypass the risk altogether. Ever heard of buffered vitamin C? Solid
tablets of plain
> ascorbic acid taken on an empty stomach can cause sores in the wall
of the stomach,
> but not because it's an acid. It's because of the high local
concentration of
> ascorbate, which triggers HCl release. It's a signalling compound in
the stomach,
> part of a complex feed-back regulatory loop.

Oh ok Doctor Hoover...like I should believe your stupid sorry XXX. Why
are you so Goddamned XXXXing stupid man? Whats the matter with you?
Youre a XXXXing shitfaced stupid idiot.

Anybody with common sense knows that excess vitamin C is rough on the
old stomach and can exacerbate GERD/ulcers and that sort of thing.

Get a clue, motherXXXXer!!!

>
> Vitamin C has been used as a *treatment* for ulcers, Eric. By the
way, iron uptake
> requires vitamin C.
>

Vitamin C a treatment for ulcers? Where? Did you prescribe it to
somebody for ulcers Doctor Hoover? LOL hahahahaha!

> Clearly, neither physiology nor chemistry are things you much
understand.

You are too stupid to know which side to butter your bread on,
shitfaced stupid man.

>
>
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>
> I only talk about what I know about, Eric. Unlike you.

You dont know shit...

Eric

Steve

2005-04-28, 10:51 pm

"Youre a XXXXing shitfaced stupid idiot."

Tell us how you really feel about Larry. Don't hold back. As Emeril would
say "kick it up a notch".

--
Steve

If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith.
-- Albert Einstein

"LostBoyinNC" <DeepSand562@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1114723795.084035.130220@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Larry Hoover wrote:
> most
> has
> specifically
> hypogonadism.
>
> Here we have it folks, Larry Hoover arguing with me about what my own
> doctors told me. My doctors, an endocrinologist whose specialty is
> androgen therapy as well as my family doctor, both told me my iron loss
> is probably being caused by my hypogonadism. They didnt go into all the
> detail showoff Larry Hoover has gone into here. But then again there
> was no need for it. I took their word for it and it made a lot of
> sense.
>
> iron intake and
>
> Really, Larry? Are you for REAL?!? Gosh you are so XXXXing smart.
>
>
>
> and leads to
> magnesium. That does
> balance disorder.
>
> Um...OK Doctor Hoover. Truck driver turned endocrinologist.
>
> 3 or
> the
> deficiency
> tests (your
> you think
>
>
> Oh yeah it would cause Ive tried it and it was buffered vitamin C too.
> I took 3000 mg of that powdered buffered vitamin c thats not sour at
> all, just bitter. And it gave me the worst shits in my life.
>
> Ive read elsewhere that excess levels of vitamin C will give a person
> the shits real bad.
>
> than the HCl
> salt, and you
> tablets of plain
> of the stomach,
> concentration of
> the stomach,
>
> Oh ok Doctor Hoover...like I should believe your stupid sorry XXX. Why
> are you so Goddamned XXXXing stupid man? Whats the matter with you?
> Youre a XXXXing shitfaced stupid idiot.
>
> Anybody with common sense knows that excess vitamin C is rough on the
> old stomach and can exacerbate GERD/ulcers and that sort of thing.
>
> Get a clue, motherXXXXer!!!
>
> way, iron uptake
>
> Vitamin C a treatment for ulcers? Where? Did you prescribe it to
> somebody for ulcers Doctor Hoover? LOL hahahahaha!
>
> understand.
>
> You are too stupid to know which side to butter your bread on,
> shitfaced stupid man.
>
> You
>
> You dont know shit...
>
> Eric
>

Holly

2005-04-28, 10:51 pm

"LostBoyinNC" <DeepSand562@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1114723795.084035.130220@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Larry Hoover wrote:
> most
> has
> specifically
> hypogonadism.
>
> Here we have it folks, Larry Hoover arguing with me about what my own
> doctors told me. My doctors, an endocrinologist whose specialty is
> androgen therapy as well as my family doctor, both told me my iron loss
> is probably being caused by my hypogonadism. They didnt go into all the
> detail showoff Larry Hoover has gone into here. But then again there
> was no need for it. I took their word for it and it made a lot of
> sense.

Look what happened when you took your docs word for something some years
ago. Sure it's a wise decision to just trust a doctor? Perhaps you will
check it out yourself now, rather then years down the road.

Larry Hoover

2005-04-28, 10:51 pm

"LostBoyinNC" <DeepSand562@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Gosh you are so XXXXing smart.

Thanks.