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OT For those in and around Philly

Lucida

2005-01-18, 7:08 am

Oh,you should probaby be fond of art, too. :-0
The Philadelphia Museum of Art will be the only American venue for the
Salvador Dali centenary exhibition. Mid-Feb to mid-April. Over 200
works, some in ths country for the first time. I have already received
the catalog, and I am in awe. A bit of a trip for me, but I have hotel
reservtions already! This is a once in a lifetime event, and to think
that it will be in Philly, not New York. Something Pablo and Seve can be
proud of.

Lucida

Pablo

2005-01-18, 10:09 pm

"Lucida" <spambegone@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Oh,you should probaby be fond of art, too. :-0

ROFL!

> The Philadelphia Museum of Art will be the only American venue for the
> Salvador Dali centenary exhibition. Mid-Feb to mid-April. Over 200
> works, some in ths country for the first time. I have already received
> the catalog, and I am in awe. A bit of a trip for me, but I have hotel
> reservtions already! This is a once in a lifetime event, and to think
> that it will be in Philly, not New York. Something Pablo and Seve can be
> proud of.
>
> Lucida

Philadelphia has often suffered from "New York envy." For all its flaws, it
can be a great city sometimes. Don't forget to run up the museum steps and
jump up and down like Rocky did. ;-)

Pablo

Lucida

2005-01-19, 7:07 am

Pablo, with my asthma, I am lucky to be able to walk up those steps
without stopping for a break! :-O
They do have a nice collection of Marcel duChamps, whom my husband
adores- but not as much as Dali. Have you seen it? One of the
installations is quite.... disturbing (for lack of a better word.)
Philadelphia truly has a lot to offer, but with far less hassle than
New York. You can actually drive in Philly, which is an impossibility
in NY.My inlaws live in Cherry Hill, NJ, so I am fortunate to be able
to get to Philly several times a year.
Have either you or Steve been to the Mutter Museum? Not for the weak of
stomach, but truly not to be missed! Ah... I could go on all day about
some of the fantastic things to do in Philly, but alas, I must go to
work.
While we are OT, what do you, Steve, and anyone else with an opinion on
the town consider to be "must sees?"

Lucida
Adding that just outside Philly on the Germantown Pike is a restraunt
called the Persian Grill which is reasonably priced and divine!

Steve n Holly

2005-01-19, 7:10 pm

"Lucida" <spambegone@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Pablo, with my asthma, I am lucky to be able to walk up those steps
> without stopping for a break! :-O
> They do have a nice collection of Marcel duChamps, whom my husband
> adores- but not as much as Dali. Have you seen it? One of the
> installations is quite.... disturbing (for lack of a better word.)
> Philadelphia truly has a lot to offer, but with far less hassle than
> New York. You can actually drive in Philly, which is an impossibility
> in NY.My inlaws live in Cherry Hill, NJ, so I am fortunate to be able
> to get to Philly several times a year.
> Have either you or Steve been to the Mutter Museum? Not for the weak of
> stomach, but truly not to be missed! Ah... I could go on all day about
> some of the fantastic things to do in Philly, but alas, I must go to
> work.
> While we are OT, what do you, Steve, and anyone else with an opinion on
> the town consider to be "must sees?"
>
> Lucida
> Adding that just outside Philly on the Germantown Pike is a restraunt
> called the Persian Grill which is reasonably priced and divine!
>

Thats a great place I think the town it's in is Lafayette Hill, I live 15
minutes or so from there.
Close to there is Germantown it's self nice stores a few art galleries, a
museum I have not been to, an arboretum associated with Penn that's
beautiful, down Germantown ave--pikes tend to become aves when you get into
the city, there is some new art stuff spring up too.

The Longwood gardens are world class, the Old city and Rittenhouse square
areas are nice for browsing, the U/Penn archeology museum, the Ritz movies,
the movie theatre in Pikesville has a working **balcony**

There is a wonderful place close to Atlantic city called the brig--its the
brigantine nature center--all sorts of environments are created for
different types of birds, close to Washington's crossing is a flower place
that has many different types of flowers--its a park--something hill park,
the small cities along the Delaware river like Stockton or Lumberville
(lumberton?), many others, the bird blind and park outside Doylestown that I
could get you the name of if you want, the Franklin institute is great too
for kids--many scientific principals are explained there, it stuck with me
and helped as I went on to other things using science, Atco race track for
drag racing, and that's just a few things--give me an idea what else you
like and I will try to help out.

Lucida

2005-01-19, 7:10 pm

I love the Morris Arboretum. We try to get there when we are in the
area. We maintain a membership so we can just drop by for a short
stroll at different seasons. The metasequoias are impressive.
I also adore Penn's museum of Anthropology and Archaeology. I could sit
all day in the lower Egyptian gallery. Longwood is nice, but not as
intimate as the Morris.
We have been to the Pine Barrens, but all you need to do is drive by
with the windows open and it is ticks galore. :-(
When we go down, we will be staying in the Rittenhouse Square area. I
think that that is near a really good brew-pub, the Nodding Head. I
like Korman Suites or Marriot Residence Inn in Cherry Hill usually, but
we are going for a package that will include VIP tickets to the
exhibition. It will be nice to spend time in a neighborhood we do not
usually see.
South Street is always nice, particularly Eye's Gallery. Chinatown goes
without saying, as well as Han Ah Reuhm (sp?) in Cherry Hill- a big
Korean supermarket with a great restraunt above it- Han Chon.
We tried the Franklin Institute, but I can't deal with all the kids. My
husband was there once without me, though, and got to see the Chinese
terra cotta soldiers when they were there. He said it was very moving.
If you have not been to the Mutter, definitely check it out. It is at
the Philadelphia college of Physicians, and has an incredible
collection of medical oddities, including Chang and Eng's liver and
death cast. (The original Siamese twins) Also, the largest colon I have
ever seen or even could imagine. ot for the weak stomached, but
impressive as all hell.
Does that give you a better idea of the sort of things we like?
Personally, I think Philly kicks XXX as cities go. I lived for a few
months in NYC, but I like Philly better. Ironically, it looks like I
will be making a short trip to NYC at the end of this month. I am kind
of feeling mixed emotions about that. I was really screwed up when I
lived there, and it is a wonder I survived. It always feels odd to go
back, which is not often. This will be my first trip there in over a
decade, as it is farther than Philly and we have no family ties there.
Well, enough of my rambling... I think I am just excited about getting
to see the exhibition. We already have the catalog, and it is going to
be impressive as all hell. Many of his highly recognisable works will
be there, including a few personal favorites. My husband is in alt.
Lucida

Pablo

2005-01-20, 2:07 am

"Lucida" <spambegone@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Pablo, with my asthma, I am lucky to be able to walk up those steps
> without stopping for a break! :-O
> They do have a nice collection of Marcel duChamps, whom my husband
> adores- but not as much as Dali. Have you seen it?

I haven't been to the Art Museum in years, like I haven't seen the Liberty
Bell in years. We used to go sometimes on Sundays (free until 1 p.m.).

> One of the
> installations is quite.... disturbing (for lack of a better word.)
> Philadelphia truly has a lot to offer, but with far less hassle than
> New York. You can actually drive in Philly, which is an impossibility
> in NY.My inlaws live in Cherry Hill, NJ, so I am fortunate to be able
> to get to Philly several times a year.

The Philadelphia streets are well layed out for traffic. Very few traffic
circles, unlike Boston or D.C. Pedestrians need to be on their toes,
though.

> Have either you or Steve been to the Mutter Museum? Not for the weak of
> stomach, but truly not to be missed! Ah... I could go on all day about
> some of the fantastic things to do in Philly, but alas, I must go to
> work.

I've been to the Mutter once. Once is all it takes. ;-)

> While we are OT, what do you, Steve, and anyone else with an opinion on
> the town consider to be "must sees?"

You could always take in a concert at the new Kimmel Center. Great
acoustics.
http://www.kimmelcenter.org/

> Lucida
> Adding that just outside Philly on the Germantown Pike is a restraunt
> called the Persian Grill which is reasonably priced and divine!

I've never heard of it. Being in the city, we have too many restaurants
from which to choose as it is. We'll have to check it out, though.

Pablo

Pablo

2005-01-20, 2:07 am

"Steve n Holly" <stevenholly@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Lucida" <spambegone@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Thats a great place I think the town it's in is Lafayette Hill, I live 15
> minutes or so from there.
> Close to there is Germantown it's self nice stores a few art galleries, a
> museum I have not been to, an arboretum associated with Penn that's
> beautiful, down Germantown ave--pikes tend to become aves when you get
> into
> the city, there is some new art stuff spring up too.
>
> The Longwood gardens are world class, the Old city and Rittenhouse square
> areas are nice for browsing, the U/Penn archeology museum, the Ritz
> movies,
> the movie theatre in Pikesville has a working **balcony**
>
> There is a wonderful place close to Atlantic city called the brig--its the
> brigantine nature center--all sorts of environments are created for
> different types of birds, close to Washington's crossing is a flower place
> that has many different types of flowers--its a park--something hill park,
> the small cities along the Delaware river like Stockton or Lumberville
> (lumberton?), many others, the bird blind and park outside Doylestown that
> I
> could get you the name of if you want, the Franklin institute is great too
> for kids--many scientific principals are explained there, it stuck with me
> and helped as I went on to other things using science, Atco race track for
> drag racing, and that's just a few things--give me an idea what else you
> like and I will try to help out.

Don't forget the Reading Terminal Market, by the Convention Center.

For a "Rocky" experience, there's the Italian Market along 9th Street in
South Philadelphia. Crazy prices...10 tomatoes for a dollar...only don't
try to pick them out yourself. The vendors will get angry. For those
prices, you get what you get. (And then stop by Pat's for a cheesesteak).
If you like cheese, DiBruno Bros. has a shop in the Italian Market that's
the genuine article. You'll hear lots of "YO's" at the Italian Market.

Of course, just about everyone says "yo" here.

Pablo
yo

Steve n Holly

2005-01-27, 8:18 am

"Lucida" <spambegone@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I love the Morris Arboretum. We try to get there when we are in the
> area. We maintain a membership so we can just drop by for a short
> stroll at different seasons. The metasequoias are impressive.
> I also adore Penn's museum of Anthropology and Archaeology. I could sit
> all day in the lower Egyptian gallery. Longwood is nice, but not as
> intimate as the Morris.
> We have been to the Pine Barrens, but all you need to do is drive by
> with the windows open and it is ticks galore. :-(
> When we go down, we will be staying in the Rittenhouse Square area. I
> think that that is near a really good brew-pub, the Nodding Head. I
> like Korman Suites or Marriot Residence Inn in Cherry Hill usually, but
> we are going for a package that will include VIP tickets to the
> exhibition. It will be nice to spend time in a neighborhood we do not
> usually see.
> South Street is always nice, particularly Eye's Gallery. Chinatown goes
> without saying, as well as Han Ah Reuhm (sp?) in Cherry Hill- a big
> Korean supermarket with a great restraunt above it- Han Chon.

The elkins park branch does not have the attached resturant but has other
korean shops and is 5 minutes from home!

> We tried the Franklin Institute, but I can't deal with all the kids. My
> husband was there once without me, though, and got to see the Chinese
> terra cotta soldiers when they were there. He said it was very moving.
> If you have not been to the Mutter, definitely check it out. It is at
> the Philadelphia college of Physicians, and has an incredible
> collection of medical oddities, including Chang and Eng's liver and
> death cast. (The original Siamese twins) Also, the largest colon I have
> ever seen or even could imagine. ot for the weak stomached, but
> impressive as all hell.
> Does that give you a better idea of the sort of things we like?
> Personally, I think Philly kicks XXX as cities go. I lived for a few
> months in NYC, but I like Philly better. Ironically, it looks like I
> will be making a short trip to NYC at the end of this month. I am kind
> of feeling mixed emotions about that. I was really screwed up when I
> lived there, and it is a wonder I survived. It always feels odd to go
> back, which is not often. This will be my first trip there in over a
> decade, as it is farther than Philly and we have no family ties there.
> Well, enough of my rambling... I think I am just excited about getting
> to see the exhibition. We already have the catalog, and it is going to
> be impressive as all hell. Many of his highly recognisable works will
> be there, including a few personal favorites. My husband is in alt.
> Lucida
>

Steve n Holly

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

"Pablo" <nono@yes.com> wrote in message
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> Don't forget the Reading Terminal Market, by the Convention Center.

YO! I fergotaboutdat!

>
> For a "Rocky" experience, there's the Italian Market along 9th Street in
> South Philadelphia. Crazy prices...10 tomatoes for a dollar...only don't
> try to pick them out yourself. The vendors will get angry. For those
> prices, you get what you get.

Agreed, there is a great Pho place on Washington called Pho 75. If you like
Pho they have the best I have ever had--many vietnamese (sp?) have set up
shop at the eyetalian market in recent years.

(And then stop by Pat's for a cheesesteak).

TONY LUKES you gots dat?
http://local.yahoo.com/details;_ylt...X2GOTGsuMAikcKe
NWbmkNRCEuCIyR620-&lcscb=

I hope we will not see the need to revisit this topic again, capish? (in
Philly this is a very silly argument we all have--it's a matter of taste,
most are, at the least eatable!) Tony Lukes has the BEST chicken
cheesesteaks

This place:
http://local.yahoo.com/details;_ylt...101LSrpCGEa8lXX
DPqUhaI34HdciXNl&lcscb=

makes a very unusual variation on the cheesesteak called the schmidter--in
any case its a great bar close to the arboreatum--hard to find--other side
of the street from borders books next to the optitions shop. Bring the
street number--they have a tiny or no sign I forgot which.

> If you like cheese, DiBruno Bros. has a shop in the Italian Market that's
> the genuine article.

YO! I can 'ceppt dat one, also check out Fantes for all kinds of great
cooking stuff --http://fantes.com/

You'll hear lots of "YO's" at the Italian Market.

You got a problem wit dat?

>
> Of course, just about everyone says "yo" here.
>
> Pablo
> yo
>
>

I am sure you will have a great time here in Philly, Lucida!

Pablo

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

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> "Pablo" <nono@yes.com> wrote in message
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> 15
> a
> square
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> place
> park,
> that
> too
> me
> for
>
> YO! I fergotaboutdat!

YO! Whatsamatta you?

Might be too crowded for Lucida, though. I was going to suggest the Please
Touch Museum, but that would probably be overrun with kids, too.

The Bards is a nice, relaxing Irish restaurant by Rittenhouse Square. On
Walnut between 19th and 20th. Don't confuse it with the Irish Pub, which is
a yuppie pond next door.
http://philadelphia.citysearch.com/profile/8949780

>
> Agreed, there is a great Pho place on Washington called Pho 75. If you
> like
> Pho they have the best I have ever had--many vietnamese (sp?) have set up
> shop at the eyetalian market in recent years.

Yeah, there is a fairly sizeable Vietnamese (and other SE Asian) population
in South Philly. I haven't been to Pho 75 (which is a chain, I hope you
realize), but pho is yummy. Drive down a few blocks and try Saigon
Restaurant for a change of pace.
http://www.hollyeats.com/Saigon.htm

> (And then stop by Pat's for a cheesesteak).
>
> TONY LUKES you gots dat?
> http://local.yahoo.com/details;_ylt...teX2GOTGsuMAikc
KeNWbmkNRCEuCIyR620-&lcscb=

Nah, I go to Tony Lukes for pork (the BEST!) For cheesesteaks, I generally
go either to Pat's or Geno's. These days, however, I haven't been eating
cheesesteaks. They aren't good for my colon (which is probably not as large
as the one at the Mutter).

If you'd like to contribute to Mafia funds (or so I hear...but YO, you
didn't get dat from me), Jim's is on South Street. ;-)

> I hope we will not see the need to revisit this topic again, capish? (in
> Philly this is a very silly argument we all have--it's a matter of taste,
> most are, at the least eatable!)

Many to choose from!
http://www.bestcheesesteaks.com/cheesesteaks/pa.htm

> Tony Lukes has the BEST chicken cheesesteaks

Chicken cheesesteaks are good, but they are not traditional cheesesteaks.
Stop confusing folks. ;-)

I must confess to a love of barbecued chicken cheesesteaks. Steve, if you
ever find yourself driving down Lancaster Avenue, near 38th Street, stop in
at Powelton Pizza and try their barbecued chicken cheesesteaks (or even
better, barbecued chicken pizza...pizza is another thing I really can't eat
anymore.)

> This place:
> http://local.yahoo.com/details;_ylt...KQ101LSrpCGEa8l
XXDPqUhaI34HdciXNl&lcscb=
>
> makes a very unusual variation on the cheesesteak called the schmidter--in
> any case its a great bar close to the arboreatum--hard to find--other side
> of the street from borders books next to the optitions shop. Bring the
> street number--they have a tiny or no sign I forgot which.

Cafette is good. Not for cheesesteaks, but it's good.

Here's their website: http://www.dibruno.com/cheese-start.html

Claudio's is probably just as good, but I am a staunch DiBruno Bros.
customer and don't bother to go into Claudio's.

Oh, and around the corner from the north end of the Market is Isgro's. Ever
have a canole? They have the best.

Lucida, if you're going to be on South Street, check out Garland of Letters
(perhaps you've been there before). I KNOW that you will appreciate this
bookstore (and more). 527 South Street. It's where I pick up my clary sage
oil. On the whole, though, South Street is getting too commercial (e.g.,
too many chains and way too many suburban kids).

If you like a cozy, eclectic, eccentric restaurant, you would probably enjoy
Astral Plane, 1708 Lombard Street. One of my favorites.
http://philadelphia.citysearch.com/profile/8989571/
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> YO! I can 'ceppt dat one, also check out Fantes for all kinds of great
> cooking stuff --http://fantes.com/

Fantes is a great place.

> You'll hear lots of "YO's" at the Italian Market.

YO's and barrel fires.

> You got a problem wit dat?

YO, don't MAKE me put in a call to Skinny Joey.

>
> I am sure you will have a great time here in Philly, Lucida!

I forget when you're coming, L, but if it's the weekend of 2/7, you might
just be overrun with crazed Eagles fans. I'm also glad it wasn't this
weekend, due to the snow.

In fact, the snow has resumed. YO, when is dis gonna stop?

Pablo

Lucida

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

Pablo and Steve had many great suggestions.

Lucida replies:
Any good vegetarian places? I know, that is almost sacrilege in Philly,
lol...
Pablo, if you are on South Street, you really have to check out Eye's
Gallery, a few blocks from Garland, which I have been to. There used to
be a big used bookstore complete with cats, but on my last visit, I
discovered it was gone.
I will not be going until March, so the football aftermath should be
over by then.
I am hoping that the snow stops for you guys soon. We got about a foot,
and my husband is snowblowing as I type. It does not look like we will
be getting more. Church was cancelled, so I plan on relaxing. :-)
Thanks, guys, it is always nice to get an insider's view of a city.
Lucida

Pablo

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

"Lucida" <spambegone@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Pablo and Steve had many great suggestions.
>
> Lucida replies:
> Any good vegetarian places? I know, that is almost sacrilege in Philly,
> lol...

There are a bunch, but I'd recommend two (and more strongly, the first).
Govinda's Cafe (1408 South Street)
rated an overall 5 out of 5 at restaurants.com

Harmony Chinese Vegetarian Restaurant (135 North 9th Street...Chinatown).
rated an overall 4 out of 5 at restaurants.com

> Pablo, if you are on South Street, you really have to check out Eye's
> Gallery, a few blocks from Garland, which I have been to. There used to
> be a big used bookstore complete with cats, but on my last visit, I
> discovered it was gone.

I haven't been down there recently to check out all the shops, but Eye's
Gallery may still be there. You can try to contact them.
http://www.eyesgallery.com/

> I will not be going until March, so the football aftermath should be
> over by then.

Doubtful. ;-) And if the Eagles lose today, you can expect rabid fans to
burn down the entire city. heh

If you are into optical illusions, don't forget to drive down the Parkway
away from the Art Museum, heading toward City Hall. As you get closer to
City Hall, you will see the statue of William Penn on top of City Hall.
From this visual perspective, you might notice something odd about him if
you look closely. (I won't give it away.) ROFL!

> I am hoping that the snow stops for you guys soon. We got about a foot,
> and my husband is snowblowing as I type. It does not look like we will
> be getting more. Church was cancelled, so I plan on relaxing. :-)

Snow is over. Time for the winds and drifting.

> Thanks, guys, it is always nice to get an insider's view of a city.
> Lucida

Just keep in mind...we didn't go into all the problems the city faces. :-)

Pablo

Steve n Holly

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

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> YO! Whatsamatta you?
>
> Might be too crowded for Lucida, though. I was going to suggest the
Please
> Touch Museum, but that would probably be overrun with kids, too.
>
> The Bards is a nice, relaxing Irish restaurant by Rittenhouse Square. On
> Walnut between 19th and 20th. Don't confuse it with the Irish Pub, which
is
> a yuppie pond next door.
> http://philadelphia.citysearch.com/profile/8949780
>
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> Yeah, there is a fairly sizeable Vietnamese (and other SE Asian)
population
> in South Philly. I haven't been to Pho 75 (which is a chain, I hope you
> realize), but pho is yummy. Drive down a few blocks and try Saigon
> Restaurant for a change of pace.
> http://www.hollyeats.com/Saigon.htm
>
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>
> Nah, I go to Tony Lukes for pork (the BEST!) For cheesesteaks, I
generally
> go either to Pat's or Geno's. These days, however, I haven't been eating
> cheesesteaks. They aren't good for my colon (which is probably not as
large
> as the one at the Mutter).

Thats quite true--there is a good place off Cottman too, at 7200 Bustleton
Ave, Steve's Prince of Steaks. I just can not afford the calories anymore
except for special occasions.

>
> If you'd like to contribute to Mafia funds (or so I hear...but YO, you
> didn't get dat from me), Jim's is on South Street. ;-)
>
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>
> Many to choose from!
> http://www.bestcheesesteaks.com/cheesesteaks/pa.htm
>
>
> Chicken cheesesteaks are good, but they are not traditional cheesesteaks.
> Stop confusing folks. ;-)
>
> I must confess to a love of barbecued chicken cheesesteaks. Steve, if you
> ever find yourself driving down Lancaster Avenue, near 38th Street, stop
in
> at Powelton Pizza and try their barbecued chicken cheesesteaks (or even
> better, barbecued chicken pizza...pizza is another thing I really can't
eat
> anymore.)

Sounds great. I can only eat very limited Pizza too--but good cheesesteak
pizza is something special!

>
http://local.yahoo.com/details;_ylt...101LSrpCGEa8lXX
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schmidter--in[vbcol=seagreen]
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>
> Cafette is good. Not for cheesesteaks, but it's good.

Very true--its so nice to eat in their little garden, and its just a very
nice place--never been there in the winter. Solaris is not bad either...

>
that's[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Here's their website: http://www.dibruno.com/cheese-start.html
>
> Claudio's is probably just as good, but I am a staunch DiBruno Bros.
> customer and don't bother to go into Claudio's.
>
> Oh, and around the corner from the north end of the Market is Isgro's.
Ever
> have a canole? They have the best.

Never had theirs--is it better then Termini's? They are 'famous' and the
store in Souf Filly is so cool true retro, but not in the same league of
Ferrara's in NYC: http://www.ferraracafe.com/aboutus/bakery_cafe.asp

>
> Lucida, if you're going to be on South Street, check out Garland of
Letters
> (perhaps you've been there before). I KNOW that you will appreciate this
> bookstore (and more). 527 South Street. It's where I pick up my clary
sage
> oil. On the whole, though, South Street is getting too commercial (e.g.,
> too many chains and way too many suburban kids).

Vey good suggestion.

>
> If you like a cozy, eclectic, eccentric restaurant, you would probably
enjoy
> Astral Plane, 1708 Lombard Street. One of my favorites.
> http://philadelphia.citysearch.com/profile/8989571/

Another good suggestion--they have all sorts of coupons too, so look around.

>
>
> Fantes is a great place.
>
>
> YO's and barrel fires.
>
>
> YO, don't MAKE me put in a call to Skinny Joey.
>
>
> I forget when you're coming, L, but if it's the weekend of 2/7, you might
> just be overrun with crazed Eagles fans. I'm also glad it wasn't this
> weekend, due to the snow.
>
> In fact, the snow has resumed. YO, when is dis gonna stop?
>
> Pablo
>
>

Steve n Holly

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

Pablo

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

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> "Pablo" <nono@yes.com> wrote in message
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> generally
> large
>
> Thats quite true--there is a good place off Cottman too, at 7200 Bustleton
> Ave, Steve's Prince of Steaks. I just can not afford the calories anymore
> except for special occasions.

I've been to Steve's, and they're great! It's not calories for me; I have
diverticulosis that can quickly turn into diverticulitis if I eat stuff like
that. I could probably have a broccoli cheesesteak on a whole wheat roll,
but I'm not much for non-traditional cheesesteaks.

<snip>

> in
> eat
>
> Sounds great. I can only eat very limited Pizza too--but good cheesesteak
> pizza is something special!

If they made it with whole wheat dough and minimal cheese, I could eat it.
All that stuff (as well as most processed foods) are off my food list. I am
determined to treat this diverticulosis/itis with changes in diet. I'd
prefer not to be hacked open, even if it is arthroscopically. I love my
colon, and my colon loves me. It's just demanding a bit more respect these
days. If folks only knew what that processed stuff and bleached white flour
does inside their systems, maybe they'd cut back.

Don't turn out like me, folks. ;-)

<snip> <--- that's what they want to do to my colon. :-(

>
> Very true--its so nice to eat in their little garden, and its just a very
> nice place--never been there in the winter. Solaris is not bad either...

Haven't been to Solaris. Let's keep Cafette our little secret. We don't
want it discovered by the masses (as I post this on usenet). ;-)

<snip>

> Ever
>
> Never had theirs--is it better then Termini's? They are 'famous' and the
> store in Souf Filly is so cool true retro, but not in the same league of
> Ferrara's in NYC: http://www.ferraracafe.com/aboutus/bakery_cafe.asp

Actually, I go to Isgro's for the cheese pockets (or at least I used to).
Cute little shop with "real life South Philly women" making them. Termini's
are good, too, though.

Great spice shop at the Market, too! I forget the name, but you'll smell
it.

As for NYC, I'm fairly clueless about restaurants up there, except for a few
upscale ones. I mourned the passing of the Russian Tea Room. Le Cirque is
way too pricey, but it's fun. Also, there used to be this great seafood
restaurant on Columbus Avenue on the Upper West side. Macinaw Seafood
something. I think it's gone now. I'm also glad Mama Leone's finally
closed. That restaurant took my family for a ride one night back in the
late 60's. We had to rent jackets to get in; my father was so upset at the
bill (the waiter kept bringing us food we didn't order and then claimed to
not speak English) that he almost had us walk out with the jackets on! The
Mama Leone's experience has been a funny family story ever since then.
Hicks in the big city. :-)

> Letters
> sage
>
> Vey good suggestion.
>
> enjoy
>
> Another good suggestion--they have all sorts of coupons too, so look
> around.

Yeppers. In fact, the hotel you're staying at might have coupons, Lucida.
Astral Plane may even have some vegetarian dishes.

Pablo

Pablo

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

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> "Lucida" <spambegone@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> I know that there are 3 good vegetarian Chinese restaurants in Chinatown,
> and Cafette in Chestnut hill is semi vegi--they serve meat, but they also
> serve traditional vegi meals too, Whole Foods a national chain has
> prepared
> vegi foods you can eat in their cafe'. There are several Whole Foods
> around
> the area.

....including one at 10th and South Streets!

> Sorry I do not know any others.

Pablo

Steve n Holly

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

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> "Steve n Holly" <stevenholly@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> <snip>
>
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>
> I've been to Steve's, and they're great! It's not calories for me; I have
> diverticulosis that can quickly turn into diverticulitis if I eat stuff
like
> that. I could probably have a broccoli cheesesteak on a whole wheat roll,
> but I'm not much for non-traditional cheesesteaks.

WOW, I have never heard of that--a pale imitation of a cheesesteak, but
still broc is a great thing to eat, have you actually had one, or did you
just make that up?

>
> <snip>
>
stop[vbcol=seagreen]
cheesesteak[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> If they made it with whole wheat dough and minimal cheese, I could eat it.
> All that stuff (as well as most processed foods) are off my food list. I
am
> determined to treat this diverticulosis/itis with changes in diet. I'd
> prefer not to be hacked open, even if it is arthroscopically. I love my
> colon, and my colon loves me. It's just demanding a bit more respect
these
> days. If folks only knew what that processed stuff and bleached white
flour
> does inside their systems, maybe they'd cut back.
>
> Don't turn out like me, folks. ;-)
>
> <snip> <--- that's what they want to do to my colon. :-(
>
very[vbcol=seagreen]
either...[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Haven't been to Solaris. Let's keep Cafette our little secret. We don't
> want it discovered by the masses (as I post this on usenet). ;-)

Well Solaris advertises a lot and they do a lot of turns, so lets suggest
folks go there.

>
> <snip>
>
the[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Actually, I go to Isgro's for the cheese pockets (or at least I used to).
> Cute little shop with "real life South Philly women" making them.
Termini's
> are good, too, though.
>
> Great spice shop at the Market, too! I forget the name, but you'll smell
> it.
>
> As for NYC, I'm fairly clueless about restaurants up there, except for a
few
> upscale ones. I mourned the passing of the Russian Tea Room. Le Cirque
is
> way too pricey, but it's fun. Also, there used to be this great seafood
> restaurant on Columbus Avenue on the Upper West side. Macinaw Seafood
> something. I think it's gone now. I'm also glad Mama Leone's finally
> closed. That restaurant took my family for a ride one night back in the
> late 60's. We had to rent jackets to get in; my father was so upset at
the
> bill (the waiter kept bringing us food we didn't order and then claimed to
> not speak English) that he almost had us walk out with the jackets on!
The
> Mama Leone's experience has been a funny family story ever since then.
> Hicks in the big city. :-)
>
this[vbcol=seagreen]
(e.g.,[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Yeppers. In fact, the hotel you're staying at might have coupons, Lucida.
> Astral Plane may even have some vegetarian dishes.
>
> Pablo
>
>

Provigilance@yahoo.com

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

Lol, I wish you knew how corny you sound. You're a tourist, Steve; you
know it and I know it.

*Nobody* but nobody calls Washington Ave. "Washington"

> YO! I fergotaboutdat!

>
> Agreed, there is a great Pho place on Washington called Pho 75. If
you like
> Pho they have the best I have ever had--many vietnamese (sp?) have
set up
> shop at the eyetalian market in recent years.
>
>
>
>
> TONY LUKES you gots dat?

How 'bout Mammalukes for you, Steve?

>
> I hope we will not see the need to revisit this topic again, capish?
(in
> Philly this is a very silly argument we all have--it's a matter of
taste,
> most are, at the least eatable!) Tony Lukes has the BEST chicken
> cheesesteaks
>

Lucida

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

Pablo

2005-01-27, 8:19 am

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> Pablo, with my asthma, I am lucky to be able to walk up those steps
> without stopping for a break! :-O
> They do have a nice collection of Marcel duChamps, whom my husband
> adores- but not as much as Dali. Have you seen it?

I haven't been to the Art Museum in years, like I haven't seen the Liberty
Bell in years. We used to go sometimes on Sundays (free until 1 p.m.).

> One of the
> installations is quite.... disturbing (for lack of a better word.)
> Philadelphia truly has a lot to offer, but with far less hassle than
> New York. You can actually drive in Philly, which is an impossibility
> in NY.My inlaws live in Cherry Hill, NJ, so I am fortunate to be able
> to get to Philly several times a year.

The Philadelphia streets are well layed out for traffic. Very few traffic
circles, unlike Boston or D.C. Pedestrians need to be on their toes,
though.

> Have either you or Steve been to the Mutter Museum? Not for the weak of
> stomach, but truly not to be missed! Ah... I could go on all day about
> some of the fantastic things to do in Philly, but alas, I must go to
> work.

I've been to the Mutter once. Once is all it takes. ;-)

> While we are OT, what do you, Steve, and anyone else with an opinion on
> the town consider to be "must sees?"

You could always take in a concert at the new Kimmel Center. Great
acoustics.
http://www.kimmelcenter.org/

> Lucida
> Adding that just outside Philly on the Germantown Pike is a restraunt
> called the Persian Grill which is reasonably priced and divine!

I've never heard of it. Being in the city, we have too many restaurants
from which to choose as it is. We'll have to check it out, though.

Pablo

Pablo

2005-01-27, 8:20 am

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<snip>
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> like
>
>
> WOW, I have never heard of that--a pale imitation of a cheesesteak, but
> still broc is a great thing to eat, have you actually had one, or did you
> just make that up?

Made it up on the fly. The wheat I eat is whole grain. And broccoli saved
my life.

<snip> <--- that's what they want to do to my colon. :-(

> very
> either...
>
> Well Solaris advertises a lot and they do a lot of turns, so lets suggest
> folks go there.

Let's do. :-)

Pablo

Steve n Holly

2005-01-28, 7:59 am

> >> I've been to Steve's, and they're great! It's not calories for me; I
you[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Made it up on the fly. The wheat I eat is whole grain. And broccoli
saved
> my life.

I know they do broccoli rabe...I bet steamed broc--could do it in the
microwave, on a bun just lightly toasted on the grill will have a petite
soucion of cheesesteak on a grill taste--would be great!

You could have a healthy whole wheet roll with a generous cuniferious vegi
too--feds say eat 9 a day, just hold the mayo and cheese!